Dont kill me but...S7 Edge Exynos with MM might be the best phone for a while - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion

So I been following the Pixel and Pixel XL forum for a while now, it seems like xposed and rom developement is either slow or in the case of xposed framework none existence. I think the S7 edge under Marshmallow will be the best phone with the best android firmware for a while... so to those who would want to update to the latest and greatest, realized that xposed might not even reach Samsung Nougat for a long time.
The next best thing I found was the Oneplus 3t which have MM out of the box, however you can opt for installation of Nougat if you like. CM13 is still available and there are dev for it. other than that, I dont see any other phone beating the S7 edge Exynos version.

Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.

Jxck said:
Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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then u never played with xposed....

Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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I have! I've tried both vanilla, and a custom rom with all the trimmings.

Agree i went back to mm after 3 months of N since beta, yes N is a bit snappier but for the cost of bad battery life, mm is still fast and remember s7 edge has a fast hardware so its very unlikely to face lags etc.
Mm is fast reliable and xposed is ready to be used !

If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..

From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).

Galactus said:
From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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thedisturbedone said:
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?

junear said:
I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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Snapdragon model = No idea about Exynos March firmware battery life.

thedisturbedone said:
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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there are xposed modules that could save you money, someone in here already listed it, so I wont mention it again, trying to keep it discrete so it could last a while. Grace UI is also on the Note 7 rom, which i am running from Rennovate, so I am not missing anything.

LyLu said:
WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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Casper can be used with a new Google account. It hasn't banned me for anything so far. But make sure you don't login to Casper. Use it as a root session. This means you still need Snapchat to be installed. Plus Casper doesn't support chat function yet... So you can't completely replace Snapchat either.
YouTube background play can be done via a cracked apk. I think OGtube? Honestly not sure about this.
Appops is not something I've used, but Android 7 allows you to modify permissions and I use a firewall AFwall+.
Greenify works completely fine without Xposed. I've been very happy with it.
Minmin.. AdAway does the job for me very well.
Rootcloack is similar to Magisk. You can get past safety net with it.
Xtouchwiz has no equivalent but there are many customizations baked into the ROM I use-Renovate. And I think Superman ROM has equally or more.
I'm sure others will have more alternatives!

Nougat on s7 edge really transforms the phone in all aspects. The UI is prettier, snapier, smoother, with more options. The whole experience of using the phone is improved by 100%.
As regards battery life, at least my Exynos variant, is much much better when it comes to battery. The doze mode works better, and in general I get fantastic SoT.
Maybe nougat is optimized currently for the Exynos processor...? and maybe in some further updates the nougat firmware will be improved for the SnapDragon variant models ?

I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.

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I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify

kloodee said:
Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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No, none at all. My only explanation would that I don't use social media apps, except for the occasional tweet and some lurking on G+ and Reddit.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.

Faspaiso said:
Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.

Just to Admit I regret didn't buy this phone...
I am looking for S8 and hope to buy it

Chord_Hugo87 said:
some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
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I never had problems get "hacked" either. But it is a fact that your rooted phone (and definitely with Xposed Framework) are more prone to attacks and other kind of malicious things, while bugs also happen far more. It's not even a debate you can have, as it's a well-known fact in the Android universe, which is also the reason many devs don't recommend or support it on their rom. The logcat is filled bugs, even though you don't see them, they're there and both slow down phone, drain battery and cause other problems and now or then bugs will happens that will be irritating like apps crashs.
We could just as well argue for the earth being round or flat, where you were on the flat side.

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Does root/de-bloat make such a difference?

I have had my phone for just over a week.
I have no complaints. I just need more time to get used to the different UI after my HTC Vivid.
Battery life is great, I can get around two days with moderate use and about 3 hours screen on time.
I don't notice any lag or overheating. I have not yet inserted an SD card and not sure I am going to need with all the available space.
I have not rooted yet, everything is stock except that I loaded ART yesterday to give that a try.
Those of you have rooted/de-bloated after using the phone for some time (not those who rooted before leaving the store!) how much real difference did you notice in performance before and after?
Not sure it makes a difference as far as speed. My reasoning, I don't use those apps so why keep them. Also I don't want spy software on my phone with carrier iq.
yea also get Greenify. it will give you more control over what and when do your apps get to run. You will save more battery and free up more ram.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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Yes indeed. About an hour to an hour and a half more. That's what i'm seeing at any rate. 45 hours between charges @ 5 hours of screen time.
There are many tweaks that I routinely apply to my phone that requires root or root apps. I feel limited without them
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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It is in the greenify donation package if you also use xposed framework.
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txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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or...
you could uninstall it with root uninstaller, reinstall from the play store then it shouldn't be considered a system ap.
txtech89 said:
Anyone know how to hibernate Facebook on the g3. It's considered a system level app
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Same as the post above this one, except I used titanium backup.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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I agree. I should have saved some of my battery stats prior to rooting, de-bloating, and installing greenify, but I can say with certainty that my battery performance has improved noticeably.
kalani91 said:
Debloating and using greenify helps my battery a good amount.
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In addition to battery life, I've also noticed a slight improvement in performance due to the bloatware not running in the background.
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Thanks all.
I will probably get to it soon. I just want to make sure I can follow how to get everything back to stock should the need arise.
I switched to ART a few days ago. Yesterday I got 40 hours with an estimated 8 hours left with the battery on 42% and SOT of 3h37m.
Today I was on wifi surfing from early plus some longer phone calls. Currently on 9h usage with 36h estimated left and SOT of 2h25m.
So things can only get better if I debloat.
You can disable all the preloaded apps without rooting. I seriously doubt rooting and deleting the apks is going to do anything besides free up space.
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You can disable all the preloaded apps without rooting. I seriously doubt rooting and deleting the apks is going to do anything besides free up space.
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you couldn't be more wrong... for one thing, getting rid of the carrierIQ crap requires root and it alone makes a world of difference. some of the things eating up resources can't simply be "disabled" in the Application Manager.

Staying non-rooted (for now)

I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I'm right there with you man. The only thing I was really missing was an adblocker but I found adguard and its been working great. Only irritating thing about that is the stupid VPN icon stays in the notification. So far this phone is crazy fast doing anything and GREAT battery life.
bebeloneovvl said:
I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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Totally agree. I'm also using package disabler and it has given me amazing battery life and disabled the crap I normally remove when I'm rooted. With the theme engine on the phone, and the amazing performance I don't feel the need to root.
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I came from Sony, so I'm used to not being rooted for long periods of time :laugh:
You're wrong sir. Adblocker, supersu premium, and free pandora one on one page of my app screen.
Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
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Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
Undertaker is right about pandora one, but Cachemate is one of my faves. And you gotta have roots.
Bluetooth tethering is a must for me.
I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
bebeloneovvl said:
I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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What apps you have diabled?
Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
Elysian893 said:
Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
I also use to root and install custom roms because I wanted to increase performance and battery life to my device but with this phone is don't feel the need to. After disabling a few apps I've noticed memory consumption has gone down and as far as battery life. I use to get good battery life before so I'm expecting this to give me better battery life as well. I've also blocked all the ads and I'm very happy.
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
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rooting a must for me either way. If i can't delete whatsapp and install whatsapp plus then that's a problem.
If i don't want certain apps i should have ability to delete them not just disable them
the size may be small but it is still space on my device
sunnyo_ola said:
I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
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Take it to a shop if you're having trouble. I can steer you in the right direction.
Or I'll hold your hand while you do it.
Only trouble I had on 1st try is that the team win recovery got overwritten by the phone once I had the custom kernel and before I had supersu. So I just reflashed the team win recovery and flashed supersu.
WiFi never better. We've done 100 so far.
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Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
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I'm with you on that! Had Lucky on my previous OnePlus One and it was great.
Hopefully soon we can have it on the Note 5.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and....
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Thanks for package disabler. I usually root as well. One thing that did jump out at me was, after I disabled all the things I normally freeze, my ram usage was the same. But I guess the main benefit is that the unused apps won't fire up and consume battery unnecessarily.
You should get a kick back from package disabler!
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This didn't need to be turned into a root vs unroot thread.
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MiA1 The best phone Ever Made !

Some incredible features of MiA1 :
1. 5sec super fast finger print scanner
2. Best Low Light camera
3. Best signal range
4. Best video recording camera
5. Fastest software developments
6. Amazing inbuilt FM Radio
7. No app crashing
If you guy's know any other features of MiA1 comment it...
nice trolling attempt.
Just bought it yesterday. Coming from an axon 7. So far its okay, but i honestly think that the camera is mediocre at best. Im worried about battery life too.
[email protected] said:
Some incredible features of MiA1 :
1. 5sec super fast finger print scanner
2. Best Low Light camera
3. Best signal range
4. Best video recording camera
5. Fastest software developments
6. Amazing inbuilt FM Radio
7. No app crashing
If you guy's know any other features of MiA1 comment it...
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1. Very funny, fingerprint sensor is quite good, november update did some bug but im sure they will fix it next version
2. Using google camera it's on par to all other cameras more or less, using native camera I agree, quite horrible
3. No signal issues, in fact its better then my g3
4. Video is bad, i agree
5. Software actually is much faster then most other devices, and is pretty close to nexus releases, I work with almost the entire pixel/nexus series so I know. only reason oreo isn't out yet is because they already launched with Nougat and it takes time to develop a new build. remember that Google work for months on builds for their devices, if Xiaomi released it too quickly everyone here would whine what a terrible company Xiaomi is for releasing such a bug filled update. I'm sure android P will be out much faster
6. Who still uses FM radio? anyway install Spirit2 and it works fine
7. No app crashes here... if you have app crashes 99% of the time it's your apps fault unless its a system app crash
Nice trolling attempt as others have said.. for $200 it's def the best of it's category bar none
ГАСООП said:
Just bought it yesterday. Coming from an axon 7. So far its okay, but i honestly think that the camera is mediocre at best. Im worried about battery life too.
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There is no FM radio
I have this device with November update, everything fine BUT, I have a big problem: all apps like feedly, Instagram, telegram etc get new start during using the app (not phone, just app), so all new messages shown as read.
After factory reset still the same problem. Any idea?
How do you use the FM radio in this phone?
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Some incredible features of MiA1 :
1. 5sec super fast finger print scanner
2. Best Low Light camera
3. Best signal range
4. Best video recording camera
5. Fastest software developments
6. Amazing inbuilt FM Radio
7. No app crashing
If you guy's know any other features of MiA1 comment it...
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I don't understand your intention. Before buying a device, read reviews, reviews and reviews!
BTW:
1. 5ms on my A1
2. It could be better indeed. Use other camera app, like Footej camera, Google or Snapdragon camera
3. Perfect here, nothing but perfect
4. Not pretty with stock camera app, try Footej
5. Why, where is the problem? The security patch level is from 6th November, the latest build from 18. November. And do you think with Oreo your device will turn to gold. It is nothing special about Oreo. Have tested it on several devices.
6. Where you have read, there is a in-built FM radio? And who need an FM radio these days
7. I have my device exactly 7 days: rooted with magisk, installed a Firewall, Adblocker Viper4Android, Substratum and lot of mods. Not a single crash or reboot. Absolutely nothing. 2 days with one battery charge, 9 hours SOT.
I had never a better device for 200 €/$ and I can imagine what will happen once the kernel sources have been released.
If you're not satisfied with your tissot, you can sale it to me. And be happy without the best phone ever made!
Cheers!
arielpa said:
How do you use the FM radio in this phone?
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You need to be rooted and install Spirit2 FM
Cheers
ydd0ras said:
I don't understand your intention. Before buying a device, read reviews, reviews and reviews!
BTW:
1. 5ms on my A1
2. It could be better indeed. Use other camera app, like Footej camera, Google or Snapdragon camera
3. Perfect here, nothing but perfect
4. Not pretty with stock camera app, try Footej
5. Why, where is the problem? The security patch level is from 6th November, the latest build from 18. November. And do you think with Oreo your device will turn to gold. It is nothing special about Oreo. Have tested it on several devices.
6. Where you have read, there is a in-built FM radio? And who need an FM radio these days
7. I have my device exactly 7 days: rooted with magisk, installed a Firewall, Adblocker Viper4Android, Substratum and lot of mods. Not a single crash or reboot. Absolutely nothing. 2 days with one battery charge, 9 hours SOT.
I had never a better device for 200 €/$ and I can imagine what will happen once the kernel sources have been released.
If you're not satisfied with your tissot, you can sale it to me. And be happy without the best phone ever made!
Cheers!
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i can agree with some of the other comments but 9 hours sot?? Unless they shipped you a Mi A1 with redmi note 4's battery inside i think that is ridiculous. Or probably you use your phone like a nokia 3310 without any 3rd party app installed otherwise its simply not possible..
zazzy24 said:
i can agree with some of the other comments but 9 hours sot?? Unless they shipped you a Mi A1 with redmi note 4's battery inside i think that is ridiculous. Or probably you use your phone like a nokia 3310 without any 3rd party app installed otherwise its simply not possible..
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Yes, of course. No gapps (all frozen), no FB, no WA, no Insta or Snap. Greenify used, adaptive brightness is off. That's it.
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No wonder.. i dont think that you should quote that SOT coz that's not a normal usage by any means... Any person who is yet undecided on whether to get this device or not might just read that and decide its the average SOT for this device and buy it only to later realise that its false/achieved with heavy modding and not using most popular social media apps..
And yes, also since you don't use any apps that are known to cause FCs on this device that is the reason that you are not facing these crashes.. coz lots of people including me are facing multiple systemui crashes everyday..
zazzy24 said:
No wonder.. i dont think that you should quote that SOT coz that's not a normal usage by any means... Any person who is yet undecided on whether to get this device or not might just read that and decide its the average SOT for this device and buy it only to later realise that its false/achieved with heavy modding and not using most popular social media apps..
And yes, also since you don't use any apps that are known to cause FCs on this device that is the reason that you are not facing these crashes.. coz lots of people including me are facing multiple systemui crashes everyday..
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I get around 6 hours of sot and am a pretty heavy user, I use all gapps , however I have created a lighter CPU govener settings to prevent the CPU from jumping so quickly to 2000mhz, seems to work quite well.. using adaptive brightness
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I get around 6 hours of sot and am a pretty heavy user, I use all gapps , however I have created a lighter CPU govener settings to prevent the CPU from jumping so quickly to 2000mhz, seems to work quite well.. using adaptive brightness
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Oh cool! i get a similar SOT without greenify or tweaking the kernel but yeah 6 hours is the max i have got.. i have seen 7 hours and a lil more that some people are getting but 9 hours is something that is very tough to achieve with normal usage imho...
BTW i am so happy u got this device and am eagerly waiting for xiaomi to release the sources so that great devs like u can help get full potential out of the device! I had to wait for more than an year for redmi 2 sources.. i hope this time it does not take that long
Also i used the lightening blade turnables for ex kernel in my G4+ to control heat issue and it worked splendidly! it did something similar making sure that the cpu sticks to lower frequencies.. Hearing this makes me pretty confident that we will have some great development for our device in future
zazzy24 said:
No wonder.. i dont think that you should quote that SOT coz that's not a normal usage by any means... Any person who is yet undecided on whether to get this device or not might just read that and decide its the average SOT for this device and buy it only to later realise that its false/achieved with heavy modding and not using most popular social media apps..
And yes, also since you don't use any apps that are known to cause FCs on this device that is the reason that you are not facing these crashes.. coz lots of people including me are facing multiple systemui crashes everyday..
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Yep, I can only report and post stuff from my device. Just wanted to let the people know, here is someone who is fully satisfied with his A1.
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yeah cool bro.. didn't mean to be combative... and yes its a nice device but with a lot of FCs and crashes.. i am fully stock for the last 1 month or so and still facing these issues.. and have heard of similar issues across groups and forums.. hopefully updates or rom development will take care of it in the future
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yeah cool bro.. didn't mean to be combative... and yes its a nice device but with a lot of FCs and crashes.. i am fully stock for the last 1 month or so and still facing these issues.. and have heard of similar issues across groups and forums.. hopefully updates or rom development will take care of it in the future
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No problem, everything is fine. I am just wondering about all this issues posted by lot of guys here or in the MIUI forum. I have really faced none of this. Maybe it is because I have frozen all gapps and I don't use social media. I am enjoying a fast, smooth and reliable device with an awesome sound, excellent GPS. Also, I have a steady and fast mobile connection. I am using the 7.11.18 build, rooted and installed TWRP of course.
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ydd0ras said:
I have really faced none of this. Maybe it is because I have frozen all gapps and I don't use social media.
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No, that can't be the reason. I have not frozen any apps and I use social media (FB, WhatsApp, Instagram etc.) without any issues whatsoever. My Mobile connection is fast and steady, I don't have any force closes, my sound is also excellent (no hissing on the 3.5mm audio jack as some people reported) but I am also not using any "performance booster" tools to free up RAM or reduce power usage. I don't trust those tools.
Localhorst86 said:
No, that can't be the reason. I have not frozen any apps and I use social media (FB, WhatsApp, Instagram etc.) without any issues whatsoever. My Mobile connection is fast and steady, I don't have any force closes, my sound is also excellent (no hissing on the 3.5mm audio jack as some people reported) but I am also not using any "performance booster" tools to free up RAM or reduce power usage. I don't trust those tools.
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Are you also on 7.11.18?
Sent from my Mi A1 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
ydd0ras said:
Are you also on 7.11.18?
Sent from my Mi A1 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Yes, I am using the latest november update, 7.11.18. Model MDG2 (back of the phone and somewhere on the box)
I noticed that a lot of people reporting this issue are from India, maybe it's an issue with the indian model (MDI2) vs. the global model (MDG2)?

Oreo vs Nougat comparisons

Hi everyone! As long as official oreo is out i'm really curious about comparing vs nougat about performance and battery life. What do you think about? it's better or worse?
As I said in other threads I feel a lot of difference in the life of the battery, with nougat I had at least 1: 30hs more of SOT. at the performance level there is no doubt that oreo is better than nougat
my battery lasts longer for the same use
other changes : https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s8-oreo-vs-nougat-side-by-side-screenshots/
BTW Another thing that I could notice is that now the iris scanner works perfectly with glasses
Iris scanner has improved alot in Oreo. The speed is blazing fast. On Nougat, I never used it 'cause it was a bit slow and buggy but on Oreo, I'm unlocking my phone with Iris, more than I do with the fingerprint.
UmarBurney said:
Iris scanner has improved alot in Oreo. The speed is blazing fast. On Nougat, I never used it 'cause it was a bit slow and buggy but on Oreo, I'm unlocking my phone with Iris, more than I do with the fingerprint.
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Have you also noticed that the accuracy on Iris detection is much better even in complete darkness.
Also, Yeah I sometimes forget that there is a fingerprint sensor on this phone. I just wish there were more apps that we could use iris authentication, especially lastpass. (Currently that is limited to samsung pay and google tez)
Battery life is horrible on 4G but better on wifi, i dunno whats happening to my Android OS as it gets a lot of background usage and BBS doesnt show anything special except for kernel wakelocks. other than that good update
n2851991m said:
Have you also noticed that the accuracy on Iris detection is much better even in complete darkness.
Also, Yeah I sometimes forget that there is a fingerprint sensor on this phone. I just wish there were more apps that we could use iris authentication, especially lastpass. (Currently that is limited to samsung pay and google tez)
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Yeah, the accuracy is amazing. Probably they would integrate it to work with the other apps. Hopefully. :good: :fingers-crossed:
skivnit said:
Battery life is horrible on 4G but better on wifi, i dunno whats happening to my Android OS as it gets a lot of background usage and BBS doesnt show anything special except for kernel wakelocks. other than that good update
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Did you update BL&modem? maybe could be related to that
Nougart, lol.
But anyways, I'm still on the beta right now on my unlocked snapdragon but overall I like it better than Nougat. Seems a lot smoother/faster. Battery life seems to be a wash for me, though I honestly didn't pay as much attention to it on Nougat as I have been on Oreo so I can't really say for sure. Had to install Nova launcher cause I miss the app info in the app shortcut menu but honestly after using Nova for a while I should have been using it from the beginning anyways. Haven't had any real issues with it, some force closes with Injustice 2 but I'm not sure if it's the app or Oreo since the app has updated a few times since being on the beta and it last updated right around the same time the last beta released which is when the force closes started.
UmarBurney said:
Yeah, the accuracy is amazing. Probably they would integrate it to work with the other apps. Hopefully. :good: :fingers-crossed:
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UmarBurney said:
Iris scanner has improved alot in Oreo. The speed is blazing fast. On Nougat, I never used it 'cause it was a bit slow and buggy but on Oreo, I'm unlocking my phone with Iris, more than I do with the fingerprint.
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I'm reading this alot on the internet, even some friends say the same: the iris scanner is buggy/slow/useless.
From my experience the iris scanner on nougat is amazing, 9/10 times it dont even show the circels to center your eyes, even when its completely dark or when i wear poralized ray ban glasses. I always brag about the iris scanner towards my friends who own a iphone x which works way faster then their face id. Also my GF's name is Iris whichs is kinda funny haha.
So you guys telling us that its even alot better in oreo (which is btw my favorite cookie) hypes me up so badly
Unfortionatly i just read that the OTA's been pause because samsung found a bug and i have to wait a little longer
ruubs said:
Also my GF's name is Iris whichs is kinda funny haha.
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Haha... Is she as fast as Samsung's ? :silly: :highfive:
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Haha... Is she as fast as Samsung's ? :silly: :highfive:
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I see what you did there. Barry clever
SirNamero said:
I see what you did there. Barry clever
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LOL
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Did you update BL&modem? maybe could be related to that
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How do I do that? And of course, how do I check that my BL&modem are running on a low version?
I have the same problem too; great battery life in Wifi, but terrible at 4G.
or334 said:
How do I do that? And of course, how do I check that my BL&modem are running on a low version?
I have the same problem too; great battery life in Wifi, but terrible at 4G.
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check this thread it's written how to update
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/rom-googlewiz-oreo-extreme-debloat-t3750641

CrDroid Oreo version for Mi4c

How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
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trtlja said:
How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
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You can try to install the hate kernel, because their cpu scheduling is different, it may improve your experience.
trtlja said:
How is your opinion about this ROM.
It is very good and customizable with a ton of options.
Only thing that is boring sometimes is lag when open apps. Waiting for 4-5 seconds to.open it.
Does someone know how to avoid that lag?
Sent from my Mi-4c using Tapatalk
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I haven't found an Oreo ROM for 4C that equals a Nougat ROM ( for example, AEX or RR) in terms of speed and lagness.
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I haven't found an Oreo ROM for 4C that equals a Nougat ROM ( for example, AEX or RR) in terms of speed and lagness.
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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Do you have those videos? I'm curious (pm me if you cant post them here).
Tried with 1.5b hate kernel...laggines is still present.
Cdroid maintener Vovan77 will not support this Rom anymore.
Now I am on RR and there is less lags but it is present.
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same, but idk where ive read that it has to do something with firmware. ive checked some youtube videos and their devices work just fine. snappy and smooth even with oreo roms
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Thanks, man, I got your link
But messing in the Settings, menus and that kind of stuff on a fresh installation seems to me the same as in Nougat. On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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True...
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Well, I'm not really complaining about Oreo, I know it was a hard work for its developers and builders and all the enthusiastic guys involved. The real accomplish was to be able to install and use Oreo for Mi 4C, almost bug-free. There are many alternatives to Oreo for Mi4C, even now, when devs are leaving its boat for other devices. MIUI 10 it's on its way, but LOS 14.1 is still developing - great work!
Personally, I'm using latest AEX Nougat and I'm happy.
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Thanks, man, I got your link
But messing in the Settings, menus and that kind of stuff on a fresh installation seems to me the same as in Nougat. On my phone, lag appears in crDroid O (and all the Oreo builds) when I'm switching and reloading apps, with many apps installed and many processes running in the background. In this situation (regular use, not setting up the phone) I feel Nougat is better than Oreo.
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Every Oreo rom that ive tried lagged even in the UI, especially when switching the wifi, data etc... I didnt try HateKernel tho
Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603894192
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > xxxx
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hi Gourcuff14.
I have tried to run this rom, but it hangs on "G" logo (longer than half an hour). Installation was without error (but first I had to avoid error 7).
What version of TWRP are You using?
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Hi Gourcuff14.
I have tried to run this rom, but it hangs on "G" logo (longer than half an hour). Installation was without error (but first I had to avoid error 7).
What version of TWRP are You using?
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Hello 1q1q. I've been using
TWRP 3.2.3-0_libra.img
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=3700668719832241315
Try updating firmware if you are still on an old one but that generally shows up during install.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/#stable
Gapps
https://opengapps.org/
Hi Gourcuff 14.
Thanks for yours tips. It was necessary to wipe also data (internal storage) to avoid bootloop. All apps, contacts restored.
I'm giving up - no dialer during incoming call.
LineageOS ftw
I use LineageOS found here for some half a year without any issues as a daily driver.
The only two things that i found missing are no vibration and the fact i can not find a way to activate Camera2API, so i can not use Gcam mods. But these are not really an issue tbh.
Gourcuff14 said:
Hello. Vovan77 has updated to Pie and it looks great. It's snappy at first look but multitasking has lag and battery life is terrible pls fix
First build > https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603894192
edit: unless my battery is shot, gone. I don't know I'm getting terrible battery life.
edit: I have ordered a replacement battery it looks like mine is gone. I will update here after fitting it into the phone.
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Hello again
I've downgraded to oreo crdroid and the battery life has improved as I expected. Is the pie upgrade draining anyone elses battery?
Thank you x
Vovan77 has updated
crDroidAndroid-9.0-20190626-libra-v5.5.zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117903079
crDroidAndroid-v5.X
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=288349

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