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So, with all this talk of over clocked/undervolt kernals, smartass gov, setcpu, and juicedefender, I was wondering what the definitive way to optimize battery is (without doing a bump charge).
I dont need any crazy quadrant scores or anything. I just need a phone that can play the occasional game here and there, surf the web, and text message; all while being lag free.
I have done all the "normal" battery savings like turning off 4g (live in 3g only area anyways), backlight lowered, no live wallpaper, ect. My question is what is the "best" method for squeezing out the most juice?
I know there are MANY opinions as to what the best is, but I thought I would poll the masses here and get their 2 cents on the subject.
Well, I pay attention to my current widget. There's certain areas where battery drain is a problem with mobile data turned on. I turn off mobile data when I'm in those areas. Being mindful of that has been the #1 battery saver for me. In fact, I even run with automatic brightness instead of a very low brightness setting and I get better battery life now than before.
I seem to get better battery on lower, mainly because when I do auto, it goes full blast most of the time, and likes to switch about 20 times from high to low while im texting.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.) works best. I know kernals seem to give better performance and battery to some, but I read some of the kernal builds have some hiccups still.
Just wondering what you guys have found is best and most stable of the "detailed" methods.
footballer62 said:
I seem to get better battery on lower
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Of course, I do as well. I was just saying that turning off mobile data in the areas that tend to cause my phone to draw 700+mA saves a significant more amount of power than turning the screen to low.
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
My main question here is out of the more detailed methods (new kernal, setcpu, ect.)
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Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
Zshazz said:
I'm currently planning to try out setting Tasker to automatically turn off mobile data when connected to problematic towers.
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I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
Zshazz said:
Well, I'm running BAMF 1.3 with the smartass governor. It saves quite a bit of power and has very little setup (you don't have to set up profiles with setcpu).
The newest Tasker adds CPU frequency control support... it doesn't currently work on the ROM I'm running ... but I'd imagine when we get CM7, it'll work. Presumably you could use that to always scale down the CPU until you open up specific apps that benefit from additional clockspeed. It could save a bit of power.
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
hehe...
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Never mind. I guess the thread title was fine "battery optimization". But those gas/hybrid nerds (like me) love using the term hypermiling.
I like using setcpu profiles or custom kernels
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Hello guys, Im coming over from the eris/custom rom to TB this past week. I was wondering what kind of life you are experiencing with the custom roms here like BAMF. I haven't rooted it yet but am planning to since the current battery life is not acceptable in my daily life. I love the phone but need to figure out if I can keep it or not by helping my battery life. I have 4g disabled since it is not even avail in my area yet but still only getting 6-7 hrs. Thanks for any help, opinions, or redirects.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
squeeze said:
This is great. Reminds me of hypermiling with my car/hybrid to get the most gas out of it. Well...it's about that time again with fuel costs going up.
So what is the equivalent term of hypermiling for handhelds/phones? Hyper-???
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Battery optimization is just a term I figured work, but hypermiling sounds pretty sexy Increases your battery mileage of course!
I'm using Superpower to disable data connection when the screen off. Seems to be working well.
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6-7 hours? Jeez. I have a fairly stock rom (perfect storm, which is more or less just bloat free) with 4G off, backlight to around 35%, only one gps running - the google one for the HTC weather, I use wifi when at home, I have nothing that pushes except my main gmail and the htc weather, do texting all day, and about an hour of internet a day. With this setup after 16 hours I have always had over 50% battery.
How many things do you have pushing data? Facebook or twitter? And if so what is the interval? Also, how much on the net are you, and how often do you game?
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Never game, 2 gmail accounts, fb few times a day, no twitter, net 2-3 times a day. This is stock sense on the phone though. Thats why I was looking into the dif roms to see what battery life was like with dif kernel on it. I will prob root and toss a rom on there to see if it gets me better life (which im sure it will), but considering waiting until the 16th (rumor out that fairly big update coming and want to see if that may help at all).
distortedloop said:
I purchased Tasker a while back just because it sounds cool, but I've never really found useful tasks to run with it for how I use my device; still looking though!
Yours sounds ideal for some areas I go to. Please remember to share the Tasker profile you come up with for that functionality.
Thanks!
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Tutorial on Tasker CPU profiles can be found here
jbh00jh said:
NEW APP in the market - LTE OnOff - switches phone from 4G to 3G to save batt.
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This really is the best way to save battery at the moment.
I made my battery last the whole day after I installed Automatic Task Killer from the market. It kills selected processes as long as the screen is off. I get home after 9 hours at work and I still have ~40% battery left. Before I installed Automatic Task Killer my TB was dead after 9 hours.
There is so much random bloatware on the TB from vzw that it eats the battery fast. I just need to root I had a Eris on a custom ROM before the TB and I could go 2 days easy without a charge.
This seems to be a fix for the time being. Too bad there is no way for developers to make a one click root like on the Eris. I will have to bite the bullet and do it the old fashioned way.
Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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and what is suppose to happen with this update?
I use an app called System Panel that's got all kinds of nifty information available to the curious.
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Can you reference where you heard this "April 16th update" rumor? I'd like to read about this one and see the credibility behind it.
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They are all just rumors (like any other update/upgrade "news") but...
http://htcsource.com/2011/03/rumour-htc-thunderbolt-to-get-gingerbread-update-in-q2-2011/
http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979166628
http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2011/03/27/htc-thunderbolt-getting-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-in-q2/
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-getting-gingerbread-by-summer-20110326/
im having issue with my battery life can anybody give me any advice??
Can you elaborate on what kind of battery life you are getting, what kind of usage, and types of activities like bluetooth, wifi, gps usage etc.. Also, let us know if your stock, or custom rom with custom kernel etc..
I just posted some suggestions in another thread, follow link below and read my suggestions on 3rd post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339479
This is a good place to start. In general though you should be disabling radio's and features that you don't need. Think of it in terms of how you conserve, or should be conserving energy at home. You probably have about a hundred different appliances or light switches that you can turn on at home.. but just because you have them all doesn't mean they should all be on at once! ;-)
i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
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i am running the ROM 2.3.5Doctorz RomV8.1 with an infusion 1.1 kernal and i moderatley use my phone and am seeing the battery life of some other people and mines just doesn't compare
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Things you can try!
Download CPUSpy from the Market. Check to see if your phone is even going into a deep sleep, If you notice heavy cpu usage then you need to find out exactly which app is causing it and delete it. Widgits and other gizmos that eat ram will also cause bad battery life, try turning sync off, turn data off if your not using it, turn GPS off if your not using it. If you just installed that rom, you need to give it a few days of charge and discharging it completely before the battery can settle in and give you accurate results.
Edit: JuiceDefender is not an option, Recently deleted it to see that I gained back 2% battery after unistalling. Goes to show you battery saver apps don't work.
I had the same issue with mine as well... Charged completely last night before going to bed disabled wifi gps bt etc... Woke up this morning with 38%... I was blown away.... Since have odin back to till i get home to mess with it.... I know everyone has there oww personal preference and i respect that... You have aby suggestions on rom "with working bt", kernal, modem etc... And tweaks/ non tweeks that will get good use?
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Well my experience is Juice defender works very well...especially if you understand how it works and what it is doing. But in your case you are probably have other unrelated issues.
Cpuspy might point you in the right direction but it could be as simple as looking at your settings: applications : running and see if any are continuously "restarting". On new roms I typically see what's running (i.e. sns is problem app for myself) and if I don't like it then use TitaniumBackup to freeze the apps. That combined with juice significantly increases my Infuse's battery life on the various ROMs I've used.
I'm running the original stock Froyo 2.2 UCKH1, I've been on battery for 1day and 17 hours before going dead. Check your apps, check cpu usage. Otherwise you got a bad battery.
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okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
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okay so i downloaded cpu spy and i seen that my phone was running at 1.2 ghz most of the time so i set up voltage control to conservative and I saw a big difference and i un installed my task manager
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Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
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Glad your getting things straightened out, Check out an app called Android Assistant from the Market. Gives a lot of details about your battery, what processes are running and allows you to kill them, also allows certain apps not to run when you boot the phone, cleans cache and history, allows you to move apps to SD, it's got a bunch of tools you may find useful and best of all its free and uses absolutely no battery as for it doesn't run as a service or hang in the background.
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i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
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i just have one lil problem whenever i set my govenor to conservative and save it as save on boot it want save always says on demand when i reboot
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Are you sure it's not a kernel issue?
I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I'm right there with you man. The only thing I was really missing was an adblocker but I found adguard and its been working great. Only irritating thing about that is the stupid VPN icon stays in the notification. So far this phone is crazy fast doing anything and GREAT battery life.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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Totally agree. I'm also using package disabler and it has given me amazing battery life and disabled the crap I normally remove when I'm rooted. With the theme engine on the phone, and the amazing performance I don't feel the need to root.
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I came from Sony, so I'm used to not being rooted for long periods of time :laugh:
You're wrong sir. Adblocker, supersu premium, and free pandora one on one page of my app screen.
Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
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Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
Undertaker is right about pandora one, but Cachemate is one of my faves. And you gotta have roots.
Bluetooth tethering is a must for me.
I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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What apps you have diabled?
Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
Elysian893 said:
Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
I also use to root and install custom roms because I wanted to increase performance and battery life to my device but with this phone is don't feel the need to. After disabling a few apps I've noticed memory consumption has gone down and as far as battery life. I use to get good battery life before so I'm expecting this to give me better battery life as well. I've also blocked all the ads and I'm very happy.
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
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rooting a must for me either way. If i can't delete whatsapp and install whatsapp plus then that's a problem.
If i don't want certain apps i should have ability to delete them not just disable them
the size may be small but it is still space on my device
sunnyo_ola said:
I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
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Take it to a shop if you're having trouble. I can steer you in the right direction.
Or I'll hold your hand while you do it.
Only trouble I had on 1st try is that the team win recovery got overwritten by the phone once I had the custom kernel and before I had supersu. So I just reflashed the team win recovery and flashed supersu.
WiFi never better. We've done 100 so far.
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Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
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I'm with you on that! Had Lucky on my previous OnePlus One and it was great.
Hopefully soon we can have it on the Note 5.
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bebeloneovvl said:
I've been using this phone for a week now, and....
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Thanks for package disabler. I usually root as well. One thing that did jump out at me was, after I disabled all the things I normally freeze, my ram usage was the same. But I guess the main benefit is that the unused apps won't fire up and consume battery unnecessarily.
You should get a kick back from package disabler!
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This didn't need to be turned into a root vs unroot thread.
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So I been following the Pixel and Pixel XL forum for a while now, it seems like xposed and rom developement is either slow or in the case of xposed framework none existence. I think the S7 edge under Marshmallow will be the best phone with the best android firmware for a while... so to those who would want to update to the latest and greatest, realized that xposed might not even reach Samsung Nougat for a long time.
The next best thing I found was the Oneplus 3t which have MM out of the box, however you can opt for installation of Nougat if you like. CM13 is still available and there are dev for it. other than that, I dont see any other phone beating the S7 edge Exynos version.
Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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then u never played with xposed....
Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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I have! I've tried both vanilla, and a custom rom with all the trimmings.
Agree i went back to mm after 3 months of N since beta, yes N is a bit snappier but for the cost of bad battery life, mm is still fast and remember s7 edge has a fast hardware so its very unlikely to face lags etc.
Mm is fast reliable and xposed is ready to be used !
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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Snapdragon model = No idea about Exynos March firmware battery life.
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If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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there are xposed modules that could save you money, someone in here already listed it, so I wont mention it again, trying to keep it discrete so it could last a while. Grace UI is also on the Note 7 rom, which i am running from Rennovate, so I am not missing anything.
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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Casper can be used with a new Google account. It hasn't banned me for anything so far. But make sure you don't login to Casper. Use it as a root session. This means you still need Snapchat to be installed. Plus Casper doesn't support chat function yet... So you can't completely replace Snapchat either.
YouTube background play can be done via a cracked apk. I think OGtube? Honestly not sure about this.
Appops is not something I've used, but Android 7 allows you to modify permissions and I use a firewall AFwall+.
Greenify works completely fine without Xposed. I've been very happy with it.
Minmin.. AdAway does the job for me very well.
Rootcloack is similar to Magisk. You can get past safety net with it.
Xtouchwiz has no equivalent but there are many customizations baked into the ROM I use-Renovate. And I think Superman ROM has equally or more.
I'm sure others will have more alternatives!
Nougat on s7 edge really transforms the phone in all aspects. The UI is prettier, snapier, smoother, with more options. The whole experience of using the phone is improved by 100%.
As regards battery life, at least my Exynos variant, is much much better when it comes to battery. The doze mode works better, and in general I get fantastic SoT.
Maybe nougat is optimized currently for the Exynos processor...? and maybe in some further updates the nougat firmware will be improved for the SnapDragon variant models ?
I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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No, none at all. My only explanation would that I don't use social media apps, except for the occasional tweet and some lurking on G+ and Reddit.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
Just to Admit I regret didn't buy this phone...
I am looking for S8 and hope to buy it
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
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I never had problems get "hacked" either. But it is a fact that your rooted phone (and definitely with Xposed Framework) are more prone to attacks and other kind of malicious things, while bugs also happen far more. It's not even a debate you can have, as it's a well-known fact in the Android universe, which is also the reason many devs don't recommend or support it on their rom. The logcat is filled bugs, even though you don't see them, they're there and both slow down phone, drain battery and cause other problems and now or then bugs will happens that will be irritating like apps crashs.
We could just as well argue for the earth being round or flat, where you were on the flat side.
Hi all,
As many of you I'm frustrated by the lags of this update
I'm an user since oreo I've always updated and I never deleted my data since then
I found a way that for me worked to improve my experience with Android 10 I would like to share it
Go to settings
Battery
Adaptative battery
Battery manager (switch it OFF)
Reboot
Same as above
Battery manager (switch it On)
Reboot
Additionaly I've installed tynycore free version ram memory monitor and is running in foreground providing white bar ram usage indicator
I'm not sure which step fixed the issue but now after a week I'm running a smooth experience.
Tyncore dysplay an average of ram usage around 60%
Let me know if it works for you
Good luck
Thanks, that helped with lags a lot!
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
t123321 said:
Hello, my phone's ram was always around 60%. If there is a leak shouldn't increase by time?
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I didn't care about ram usage before the "workaround" so I can say if there was a huge memory consumption.
But you are right... Memory leaks will use all your ram which can't be set free
A lag can be caused by hundreds reason as cpu consumption or wrong coding... I don't think this can be easily discovered. The resolution could be a without sense trick like this
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
a1291762 said:
Tinycore measures ram the way the developer tools do. It shows lots of free ram because it's not counting "cached" apps. Lower-level tools like OSMonitor show the true usage, which is much higher (I typically have only 50-150M free but that's what you want to see).
The problem is not ram per-se, it's the system deciding to evict some apps from ram while keeping others in ram. The apps it keeps are not the ones that make sense.
Battery Manager didn't help for me. I can often go a week, but sometimes only a few days before I have to reboot to stop apps from immediately dying when multitasking.
Xiaomi has not been pulling non-security changes from AOSP. There's one about changing sounds for outlook. Perhaps there was a bug that got fixed and they just never got that fix. If custom ROMs don't have the problem, that'd make sense to me...
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OS monitor in my case show 30% of free ram... not far away from tinycore assumption
My phone after 10 days is still usable after steps in post #1
Unfortunately I can't change rom in those days I need both sim working and I don't want fix drawbacks afftecting my job
I've disabled automatic updates and I'll move forward if I'll get good feedback from next updates
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
Cappucinto said:
This method actually worked for me. Thanks a lot @joyride76. Tried a lot and nothing really worked and this little steps made the problem not occure for about 3 days now. I have Lspeed installed ever since I have the device, but this alone, never really helped out. Thanks again!
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Happy to read I'm 13 days up without major issues
Your post it's a good confirmation
I'm not confident in your fix. I have tried it but my phone still gets slow between 24 and 48h of not restarting it.
Sadly this did not work on my phone. Memory shows 58% used memory but lag appears after 24hrs. Restart helps.
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
RensoreK said:
Wow. I'm actually surprised that Android 10 became much more usable. I was so frustrated and ready to trash it...
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I'm happy to help I was just near to downgrade so I can understand
I'm sorry it didn't help everyone
gonna give a try, hope to see it working, i will tell in a week
Kaimilo said:
gonna give a try, hopek to see it working, i will tell in a week
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Let us know
Good luck
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Let us know
Good luck
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for the moment is working smooth, but need more days to see
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
ema93a said:
I've tried it again after the October 2020 security update and it doesn't fix it for me.
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
Apologies for a so poor technical approach
so i update, lag has came back after 3 days
Only thing that help this is installing a custom kernl
From today i have new phone,honor 10 lite,bay bay xiaomi newer will get any xiaomi again
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After 20 days I've tried to disable tiny core... And lag comes back.
I'm not sure if it's a placebo effect but once enabled lag disappeared
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I hadn't kept tinycore running but after seeing your message I gave it a go. I was hoping that it would help as a side effect of probing the system.
Interestingly... It showed maybe 30% free on the first day, 20% on the second day and 40% on the third day.
However, on that third day, apps are once again being killed as soon as they hit the background. Not even the Play store could update several apps without dying (after I switched to another app).
I find interesting that when tinycore reports the most "free" memory is when the system behaves the worst. Actual ram is full of cached apps, it's just not apps that are useful (IMO).
I guess it's back to daily reboots for me