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I'm on 5.1.1 and looking to update to 6.0. I've yet to find a comparison of the benefits or drawbacks of using either Chainfire's patched kernel vs. the ElementalX kernel for updating and retaining root privileges.
I'm self-employed and use my phone heavily for business, so I can't afford any flakiness.
Can anyone point me to something that can help me decide which of the two kernels to use? Or, is it simply a tossup?
Thanks.
That depends sir, are you game interested? business-oriented(applications)?
or just the type of guy who looks at fb a lot?
Games occasionally (e.g., at the airport or waiting room), but not really often. Frequent viewing of Office docs on that pitifully small screen, occasional VNC, mostly just web browsing and typical phone stuff. I need stability more than I need game optimization, if that's what you're asking.
I am using ElementalX 6.0.4 (latest) along with chainfire's Beta 2.5.2 root. Haven't encountered any issues for the past few weeks since I have Marshmallow installed (clean fresh Factory Image install not OTA)
So far very happy with it
My two cents
Well I would highly recommend racer kernel if you would ask me though its not in the question since racer kernel with root has a lot of battery optimization plus has the buttery smooth feeling and stability that your aiming for
But for those two(elementalx or chainfire's custom kernel) I would recommend elementalx since customized stock kernels have stability issues plus elementalx is updated every now and then, getting better and better
Like most, I like my phone rooted, with xposed and all the nice stuff roots comes with. Also it seems to make the Flex2 much more usable in regard of battery, adblock, runtime etc... BUT the MM update seems to be really good, too.
So, my question the people who have used both is:
What has the better overall experience ( battery runtime, performance, features, overall feeling ):
- 5.1.1 root with amplify / greenify / smart network / adblock
- 6.0.1 stock
Also, what are the alternatives for non-root regarding adblock in chrome?
Thanks & Greetz
6.0.1 here hands down. For Adblock use ABP
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Adguard works perfect. None of the issues you get with ABP without root.
I also prefer Marshmallow to rooted 5.1
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MM has a realy good battery life and it's very smooth
But what about thermal throttling??
I love 6.0.1 interface,it is so smooth that all the apps seem like they're almost always running in the background.
On the other hand,because of the throttling it lags very bad even in Angry Birds 2.FREAKING ANGRY BIRDS 2!!!
Is there any fix to this? On Marshmallow?? I just wanna change the thermal config file.
And btw I'd like to know how the camera on 5.1.1 with root modded with jpeg quality set to 100 compares with the marshmallow one.Furthermore,on 6.0.1 I can't see 1080p60fps option.
I like to have a permanent full screen without on screen buttons wasting space or being accidentally touched. Root and lmt pie controls is a must for me.
Since root doesnt solve all overheat problems and from Time to Time still changes in Core Settings appear i can live with lagfree 6.0 .. Battery life is okay but the kernel still ramps cpu up too agressive and throttles too agressive too so... Actually android 6 with managable kernel would be nice.
Can't live without Root because of poor internal memory...
hi, can F501L 5.1.1 be rooted?
I dont know if I return to 5.1.1 rooted for thermal because I'm on 6.0 and with Pokemon Go the temperature is horrible and my game very laggy when I play more 10mn, normal ?
Edit : after 10mn the proco was at 50C and i feel the hard throttling at 50C too (balance both 49/50C). Horrible lag
Conclusion, LG G Flex 2 with MM is a wonderful phone for ONLY using social media apps, browsing, facebook-ing, calling, SMS-ing or watching video WITHOUT GAMES. Basically I do not play GAMES at all...so totally no problem for me. It is QUICK and SMOOTH.
Little feedback, Pokemon Go with thermal engine change, no lag but more temperature. I up until 57C and have warning message but no lag when i was at 50C
Shuyin10 said:
Little feedback, Pokemon Go with thermal engine change, no lag but more temperature. I up until 57C and have warning message but no lag when i was at 50C
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limit the max gpu speed, it will help keep the temp down
Yes but like CPU clock, the gpu always reboot and back to max.... It's impossible to play with frequency with this kernel....
Are There any Not Pokemon Related News?
Shouldnt it be possible to Change Files in /sys Folder with adb and Pull and push Files? Or is This Impossible on This Device? Or will it even Brick this the Device?
This folders contain a lot of Information about cpu and kernel Related Stuff or am I wrong?
Is There a usable and stable Way to Control our devices cpu/GPU yet?
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Is There a usable and stable Way to Control our devices cpu/GPU yet?
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Not without unlocked bootloader. (custom kernel)
*Rage against LG increases
Who knows, flex2 with android 7 maybe will fix a lot of Things for us - when it arrives for us before Smartphones became obsolete..
If you guys can dd partitions with MM then you could always modify the system image to what you want then put back on phone like I did for Sprint G4, see my Sig. I even managed to offer more CPU/GPU choices during boot without root and without bl unlock.
How?
XdaJoeX said:
*Rage against LG increases
Who knows, flex2 with android 7 maybe will fix a lot of Things for us - when it arrives for us before Smartphones became obsolete..
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Do you really think LG will bring us android 7 nougat for flex 2? It wont happen. Support is nearly gone at the moment and this is problematic phone(overheating etc) what they obviously try to forget.
Hi!
I'm new to the s6. I'm curious if there is a significant difference between heavily debloated stock (did it by hand, using the debloater tool from XDA) & stock based roms like TYRANNUS or Pure-Stock ExtraLite. Are they really worth it for battery & performance?
All this is quite confusing for me, I'm used to the simplicity of AOSP/CM & how you can set up everything with a kernel manager & if you mess up just use TWRP to fix it all, here it seems way more convoluted & I'd rather not start, if the gains aren't big.
(Currently with my debloated/rooted stock rom I'm getting 3.5 hours of SOT with web browsing & 6 hours while watching movies on it. The performance is fine)
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Hi!
I'm new to the s6. I'm curious if there is a significant difference between heavily debloated stock (did it by hand, using the debloater tool from XDA) & stock based roms like TYRANNUS or Pure-Stock ExtraLite. Are they really worth it for battery & performance?
All this is quite confusing for me, I'm used to the simplicity of AOSP/CM & how you can set up everything with a kernel manager & if you mess up just use TWRP to fix it all, here it seems way more convoluted & I'd rather not start, if the gains aren't big.
(Currently with my debloated/rooted stock rom I'm getting 3.5 hours of SOT with web browsing & 6 hours while watching movies on it. The performance is fine)
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As long as it's a samsung + s6 battery is so small, I don't think there will be a visible difference. Lucky enough to get 3hrs+.
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3 hours what are you doing i go to work and browse all day and am at 50% power left. Im using auto brightness, lte and supernova kernel and ktoonz gov plus da on renegade rom latest pg1 froze few apps maybe 40 though Titanium backup pro and its debloated alot already i also use amplify pro.
I've been watching the nougat forums, and the stability of the nougat roms seem to be getting better and better. I am tempted to try one but at the same time, my current setup with Pure Nexus Marshmallow is working nearly flawlessly, with less bugs (camera, hdr, shooting video, etc).
For those of who have made the jump, has it been worth it? Are the improvements enough to justify the many hours needed to setup after doing a clean install?
I am most tempted to upgrade if nougat will actually improve battery life. Has battery life improved from your experience?
Thank you all in advance!
Hi ggoomani It depends on use, time, setup, apps etc. Quick multi tasking, split screen, clear all recent apps, bundled notifications, reply from notification and other new features in Nougat are great, in my opinion it well-worth the time spent on upgrade.
Hi,
Same here. Looking for a stable ROM out there with a better battery backup. But no one is commenting about battery time. Also need to know which is best Custom ROm out there? Myself thinking of CM 14.1 or with AOSP 7.1.1 or DARK ROM . Please suggest me for the same if anything is there out there better than that ?
THanks
I am also on stock marshmallow ROM and by help of few of system mods like custom kernel, sound mod , Xposed I am getting good performance and stability In this ROM. I am confused to upgrade Android N or not, because N is in Development mod, not fully bug free.
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So I been following the Pixel and Pixel XL forum for a while now, it seems like xposed and rom developement is either slow or in the case of xposed framework none existence. I think the S7 edge under Marshmallow will be the best phone with the best android firmware for a while... so to those who would want to update to the latest and greatest, realized that xposed might not even reach Samsung Nougat for a long time.
The next best thing I found was the Oneplus 3t which have MM out of the box, however you can opt for installation of Nougat if you like. CM13 is still available and there are dev for it. other than that, I dont see any other phone beating the S7 edge Exynos version.
Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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then u never played with xposed....
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then u never played with xposed....
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I have! I've tried both vanilla, and a custom rom with all the trimmings.
Agree i went back to mm after 3 months of N since beta, yes N is a bit snappier but for the cost of bad battery life, mm is still fast and remember s7 edge has a fast hardware so its very unlikely to face lags etc.
Mm is fast reliable and xposed is ready to be used !
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
junear said:
I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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Snapdragon model = No idea about Exynos March firmware battery life.
thedisturbedone said:
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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there are xposed modules that could save you money, someone in here already listed it, so I wont mention it again, trying to keep it discrete so it could last a while. Grace UI is also on the Note 7 rom, which i am running from Rennovate, so I am not missing anything.
LyLu said:
WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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Casper can be used with a new Google account. It hasn't banned me for anything so far. But make sure you don't login to Casper. Use it as a root session. This means you still need Snapchat to be installed. Plus Casper doesn't support chat function yet... So you can't completely replace Snapchat either.
YouTube background play can be done via a cracked apk. I think OGtube? Honestly not sure about this.
Appops is not something I've used, but Android 7 allows you to modify permissions and I use a firewall AFwall+.
Greenify works completely fine without Xposed. I've been very happy with it.
Minmin.. AdAway does the job for me very well.
Rootcloack is similar to Magisk. You can get past safety net with it.
Xtouchwiz has no equivalent but there are many customizations baked into the ROM I use-Renovate. And I think Superman ROM has equally or more.
I'm sure others will have more alternatives!
Nougat on s7 edge really transforms the phone in all aspects. The UI is prettier, snapier, smoother, with more options. The whole experience of using the phone is improved by 100%.
As regards battery life, at least my Exynos variant, is much much better when it comes to battery. The doze mode works better, and in general I get fantastic SoT.
Maybe nougat is optimized currently for the Exynos processor...? and maybe in some further updates the nougat firmware will be improved for the SnapDragon variant models ?
I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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No, none at all. My only explanation would that I don't use social media apps, except for the occasional tweet and some lurking on G+ and Reddit.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
Just to Admit I regret didn't buy this phone...
I am looking for S8 and hope to buy it
Chord_Hugo87 said:
some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
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I never had problems get "hacked" either. But it is a fact that your rooted phone (and definitely with Xposed Framework) are more prone to attacks and other kind of malicious things, while bugs also happen far more. It's not even a debate you can have, as it's a well-known fact in the Android universe, which is also the reason many devs don't recommend or support it on their rom. The logcat is filled bugs, even though you don't see them, they're there and both slow down phone, drain battery and cause other problems and now or then bugs will happens that will be irritating like apps crashs.
We could just as well argue for the earth being round or flat, where you were on the flat side.