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After several long calls with Verizon and help from Motorola insiders, I have been given to understand that:
1. Droid Maxx if not activated on Verizon, before leaving US, cannot be used on other carriers (say in Europe or Asia).
The reason is the SIM unlock cannot be done by the customer support since they won't see the device in their network if it is not activated first.
2. The activation cannot happen outside US, since Verizon does not have a network.
So bottom line is get the device activated before you import it from US.
Now, my Droid Maxx is locked to Verizon. I know the boot loader can be unlocked. Will this help me in flashing something that can get rid of the SIM lock that Verizon has in place.
My device is an employee edition so perhaps there was some extra protection added there by Verizon.
Please help.
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
KidJoe said:
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
kanagadeepan said:
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
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Well, we have interacted on Rimweb recently.
The radio on the Droid series is the same. The difference between the mini and the maxx in your case is that the mini has never been activated on VZ network and hence it is SIM locked. Whereas, the Maxx would have been purchased as a used item (perhaps just activated and then sold off?). So that takes care of the SIM unlock part.
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
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The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
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I've been through this with some trying the Moto X in India, and I've been through it while trying my T-Mobile and ATT sim's in my Verizon Moto X.
From what you are describing, it sounds like your APN settings for your carrier on the phone are not set right.
Example... When I put my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I get "unknown sim" and bars, but no network connectivity. Nothing works. By going into the mobile network settings on the phone and adding an APN with the T-Mobile settings, features like calling, SMS, data, etc. start working. I have had occasions where I thought I had the APN right, as calls and data worked, but MMS only partially worked (would send but not receive). When I do have the settings right, everything works. Similar thing happens on my Moto X with T-Mobile SIM.
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Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
Even if you are a Verizon customer who is just traveling and popped out your VZW SIM in favor of using a local prepay sim to save data/voice costs, once you pop that VZW SIM out, they wont assist.
But you have received confirmation of what I said.. the GSM side is unlocked.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
I can't offer any more than that. Sorry.
KidJoe said:
The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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I have now put in a CDMA SIM card, but run into another problem with that. I will activate that SIM on another phone and then pop it in the Maxx again and check. But CDMA should work fine as reported by other users.
But the problem is the GSM part, because that is what we need to get working.
Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
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That is bad on the part of Verizon. I have purchased a Verizon device off-contract and that device is a global one. So I am entitled to some support from them even if I am without a service plan.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
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Yes. Local carrier. And for now, there are three such XDA members who have been facing the same issue. In one case, a member was able to make calls and receive calls and also use data. Then after a few minutes, the SIM invalid message popped up.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
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APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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s_u_n said:
APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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Right, you got just DATA working with the APN settings, but the correct APN settings are also needed for SMS, MMS, Phone calls, etc.
I've had an issue where I had voice but no data, and it was related to APN. I've had an issue where I had voice, SMS, data but no MMS, again, it was related to APN settings for the carrier you are using.
So good luck!
the problem we sorted out to get gsm working in india first the phone must be activated on usa to get it work on india so can anyone help us > @s_u_n
So, after using the phone for a week on GSM with all application updates installed, I can safely state that
1. Verizon activation is not needed for non-VZ networks to work (at least outside US).
2. A full FXZ was installed and it probably solved the modem configuration mess that the phone might have been. Perhaps it unlocked something?
3. Four corner activation bypass method was used (as described in earlier Motorola phones).
Either 2 or 3 solved the problem
There was nothing to do with APN. Data works even without any APN settings out here, just like on my Motorola Defy.
I have rooted and s-off. Used the guide to enable additional bands. I used NV values 65626 and could get LTE in some areas but not in others. I'm starting to think it's radio related. Any suggestions?
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I have rooted and s-off. Used the guide to enable additional bands. I used NV values 65626 and could get LTE in some areas but not in others. I'm starting to think it's radio related. Any suggestions?
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what bands, specifically, did you enable?
Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17. I'm located in the Raleigh Durham area of NC. When it was connected to LTE I used the LTE discovery app and confirmed the uplink and downlink freqs. 1900/2100 if memory serves me correctly.
Currently using the VZW M8 on Cricket. I'm getting HSDPA but no LTE.
But I have no complaints. Phone is awesome and mobile data is working flawlessly.
Yes it's radio related. Verizon and ATT do not use all the same frequencies and bands.
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/us-wireless-bands.png
verizon to gpe?
taifuller said:
I have rooted and s-off. Used the guide to enable additional bands. I used NV values 65626 and could get LTE in some areas but not in others. I'm starting to think it's radio related. Any suggestions?
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Hi,
I tried to read any info about it. But I don't know....
Here is my theory: The Google Play edition (GPe) is open to any LTE channels. I know that you can turn the verizon M8 into GPe M8... (I don't know if the phone can operate on Verizon after all :S )
So hopefully that can work, but I NEVER TRIED IT!
So If some GURU can help us that would be grate. And also a "How to" -from the very beginning ( Stock rom, s-on, non rooted, etc) would be nice too.
Thank you
Ps.: I was only modifying Samsung, Sony, Motorola, Zte before. This HTC "magic" is totally new for me
hongkongpheoy74 said:
Yes it's radio related. Verizon and ATT do not use all the same frequencies and bands.
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/us-wireless-bands.png
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You totally missed OP's point. He already enabled the require bands for AT&T LTE.
taifuller said:
Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17. I'm located in the Raleigh Durham area of NC. When it was connected to LTE I used the LTE discovery app and confirmed the uplink and downlink freqs. 1900/2100 if memory serves me correctly.
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I am in Virginia. Right now using a stock Verizon M8 and I do get AT&T LTE signal( download speed is around 10M, upload is 7M. Phone info said the network is LTE).
I guess my area using band 4 for AT&T LTE.
I am considering enable band 17. If you are available, maybe you should share some thoughts of your Band-unlockin process and your LTE signal situation.
Thank you.
laofan said:
You totally missed OP's point. He already enabled the require bands for AT&T LTE.
I am in Virginia. Right now using a stock Verizon M8 and I do get AT&T LTE signal( download speed is around 10M, upload is 7M. Phone info said the network is LTE).
I guess my area using band 4 for AT&T LTE.
Your speeds are better than my VZW speeds here.
I am considering enable band 17. If you are available, maybe you should share some thoughts of your Band-unlockin process and your LTE signal situation.
Thank you.
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I went to an ATT store inquiring about moving from VZW. They said my M8 would NOT work on their network. Who can i contact at ATT to get the straight scoop and move? I am in Wilmington NC.
Very competitive Verizon MVNOs are starting to emerge, have you compared coverage in your area? I'm on ROK Mobile and it's freaking awesome.
schneid said:
I went to an ATT store inquiring about moving from VZW. They said my M8 would NOT work on their network. Who can i contact at ATT to get the straight scoop and move? I am in Wilmington NC.
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Most of the ATT guys are clueless, not matter they are in store or over the phone. Just ignore them.
All you need is get an att nano sim card, put it in your verizon m8. Boom! You could text and call now!
And then you need to edit APN settings to get data working. Go to settings, Mobile data, Network settings, GCM/UMTS Options, Access point names, and add a new APN:
Name ATT Phone
APN phone
Proxy Not set
Port Not set
Username Not set
Password Not set
Server Not set
MMSC http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS proxy proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port 80
MCC 310
MNC 410
Authentication Type None
APN type default,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol IPv4
Bearer Unspecified
save this APN and select it to use. Wait 30 sec to 1 minutes, Boom, you would have H+ or 4G LTE depending your location. For most area you would get H+.
You don't even need to root !
im on edge slow slow slow
I get HSPA+ on my stock M8. My APN is "phone"
I have GoPhone account with AT&T and I get LTE in some areas, nothing done to my phone, stock Verizon m8, apn set to nxtgenphone , I get HSPA most of the time, but I do get LTE in some locations here
laofan said:
You totally missed OP's point. He already enabled the require bands for AT&T LTE.
I am in Virginia. Right now using a stock Verizon M8 and I do get AT&T LTE signal( download speed is around 10M, upload is 7M. Phone info said the network is LTE).
I guess my area using band 4 for AT&T LTE.
I am considering enable band 17. If you are available, maybe you should share some thoughts of your Band-unlockin process and your LTE signal situation.
Thank you.
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I did not miss the OPs point. Reread my post. he's trying to enable bands on a phone which radio does not support it. He asked if it was a radio issue. YEP.
hongkongpheoy74 said:
I did not miss the OPs point. Reread my post. he's trying to enable bands on a phone which radio does not support it. He asked if it was a radio issue. YEP.
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So happy to see that you are replying back to me after two years.
Hi All,
The issue with my Verizon M8 [the rare LRA (LTE for Rural America) subvariant] is that no matter what firmware version/RUU I use, I only get GSM connectivity on it. No WCDMA or LTE. I have checked the WCDMA bands in my country and that is not an issue. When I select WCDMA only option, I cannot get any signal. I have flashed the all the LRA (*.**.512.*) RUUs as well as all the Verizon (*.**.605.*) RUUs but no luck at all. If this issue might be related to PRL settings then please let me know if any of you have any idea. I have also checked the relevant WCDMA/LTE bands via CDMA tool and they are also enabled.
My M8 is currently S-off and has Super CID. I am using it outside the US on GSM network.
This has got me very frustrating and I need to find out if this is a software issue or a hardware issue. One more thing is that another guy here has exactly the same variant as mine. He bricked his radio by flashing the GSM firmware. I provided him my phone's relevant partition dumps and after flashing those onto his phone, his phone's radio became operational but now he has the same issue as mine. So I think that this issue might not be hardware related.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated!!
Same problem
Anyone can provide any help on this??
any1 please help??
junaidawan86 said:
any1 please help??
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do you know the actual bands/frequency the gsm network uses where you are? the prl is going to be pulled from your sim card. have you also tried a diff sim card?
izzaeroth said:
do you know the actual bands/frequency the gsm network uses where you are? the prl is going to be pulled from your sim card. have you also tried a diff sim card?
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Hello. Yes, I know the bands used by 2G, 3G and 4G in my country. And yes I have switched sim cards even from different networks. The PRL version shows as 00000 when i look at it from the settings. I have even tried to update the PRL from a prl file provided by a xda user in some other thread but still it shows as 00000. I have seen some threads and ppl had this problem with One S. Though some of them were able to correct it by flashing some stock and custom radios.
junaidawan86 said:
Hello. Yes, I know the bands used by 2G, 3G and 4G in my country. And yes I have switched sim cards even from different networks. The PRL version shows as 00000 when i look at it from the settings. I have even tried to update the PRL from a prl file provided by a xda user in some other thread but still it shows as 00000. I have seen some threads and ppl had this problem with One S. Though some of them were able to correct it by flashing some stock and custom radios.
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odd. i wonder if that lra model is sim locked like the sprint variant. is it also acknowledging you have a sim card inserted when you check in about phone? as in, does it display the sim #
izzaeroth said:
odd. i wonder if that lra model is sim locked like the sprint variant. is it also acknowledging you have a sim card inserted when you check in about phone? as in, does it display the sim #
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Well, I thought too that it might be sim locked but then why it is working with 2G networks. There should be no signal at all then. Also these LRA variants are being sold by many online retailers including Amazon as sim unlocked phones. And yes it acknowledges when I insert or change a sim. Says "Preparing sim card" and then I get a signal (2G only). When I choose 3G only in network settings, the signal is gone immediately and I have to switch back to auto or 2G only to get the signal back.
@redpoint73
Any help on this???
junaidawan86 said:
Hello. Yes, I know the bands used by 2G, 3G and 4G in my country.
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So then list the specific band numbers for 2G, 3G, and LTE for your carrier. That is really what the previous response was asking.
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So then list the specific band numbers for 2G, 3G, and LTE for your carrier. That is really what the previous response was asking.
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900/1800MHz for 2G
2100MHz for 3G
850/1800MHz for 4G/LTE
junaidawan86 said:
900/1800MHz for 2G
2100MHz for 3G
850/1800MHz for 4G/LTE
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This is strange, as the 3G band 2100 Mhz is really common (many countries use it for 3G, and most any recent US phone intended for foreign travel will support it), and should be supported by the device out-of-the-box. This tells me the problem is likely not RUU/firmware related.
You sure the APN is properly typed? And does your carrier use any different APN for 3G, LTE, etc.?
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This is strange, as the 3G band 2100 Mhz is really common (many countries use it for 3G, and most any recent US phone intended for foreign travel will support it), and should be supported by the device out-of-the-box. This tells me the problem is likely not RUU/firmware related.
You sure the APN is properly typed? And does your carrier use any different APN for 3G, LTE, etc.?
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No it uses the same APN for all types and its configured correctly. I also thought the issue might rather be related to some NV values or PRL. If I set it to 3G only, it "Sees" the carrier as I can see a signal bar in network signal guru app, but the mobile is not able to connect to it.
so i am thinking that since this is a lra variant, a lot of bands may be disabled. have you seen anywhere else that someone got a lra variant to work outside the us? i know you said people were selling it as being unlocked, but maybe its not
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so i am thinking that since this is a lra variant, a lot of bands may be disabled. have you seen anywhere else that someone got a lra variant to work outside the us? i know you said people were selling it as being unlocked, but maybe its not
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Well the LRA variant is practically the Verizon one with everything same as the Verizon variant. There a lot of links on both Amazon and eBay in which its mentioned that its LRA variant and is factory unlocked and can be used anywhere in the world. And yes I came across various threads on XDA in which people had this same variant, working fine (3G atleast) but they wanted to upgrade to Android 6 MM as there is no official update available for this variant after Android 5 Lollipop. As for the relevant bands (2100MHz for 3G used in my country), they were already unlocked (checked via CDMA Tool and QXDM).
junaidawan86 said:
Well the LRA variant is practically the Verizon one with everything same as the Verizon variant. There a lot of links on both Amazon and eBay in which its mentioned that its LRA variant and is factory unlocked and can be used anywhere in the world. And yes I came across various threads on XDA in which people had this same variant, working fine (3G atleast) but they wanted to upgrade to Android 6 MM as there is no official update available for this variant after Android 5 Lollipop. As for the relevant bands (2100MHz for 3G used in my country), they were already unlocked (checked via CDMA Tool and QXDM).
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hmm this is quite the problem. if you can confirm you are using the same rom as the others, i would then think the issue is the radio being defective
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hmm this is quite the problem. if you can confirm you are using the same rom as the others, i would then think the issue is the radio being defective
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I am using the stock LRA RUU (android 5.0.2). I have also tried the VZW RUUs from 4.4 to 6.0 but the same issue exists on them all. Even I have used GPE and Sense based custom roms but the same issue. I think that the issue might be related to some NV values or this phone might be network locked. Is there a way to check if the phone is network/sim locked? As I am getting the (2G) signals for all the networks in my country.
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I am using the stock LRA RUU (android 5.0.2). I have also tried the VZW RUUs from 4.4 to 6.0 but the same issue exists on them all. Even I have used GPE and Sense based custom roms but the same issue. I think that the issue might be related to some NV values or this phone might be network locked. Is there a way to check if the phone is network/sim locked? As I am getting the (2G) signals for all the networks in my country.
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it being sim/network locked makes sense, because the phone was made for people who live in the middle of nowhere. there would also be a high probability that none of those people will ever travel outside the country. i do not know anything about the nv values and tweaking them, but i have looked at that thread a few times. lastly, if you have only picked up 2g regardless of sim or apn used, it could be defective radios
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Well, I thought too that it might be sim locked but then why it is working with 2G networks. There should be no signal at all then. Also these LRA variants are being sold by many online retailers including Amazon as sim unlocked phones. And yes it acknowledges when I insert or change a sim. Says "Preparing sim card" and then I get a signal (2G only). When I choose 3G only in network settings, the signal is gone immediately and I have to switch back to auto or 2G only to get the signal back.
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did you get the solution for the problem since i need help as i am facing the same problem
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did you get the solution for the problem since i need help as i am facing the same problem
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yes I got my issue fixed. Can u confirm which device you have? software version *.*.512* or *.*.605.*?
I imported the 8141 from Clove in the UK. So far, my only real issue is I have yet to see it connect to LTE. I've seen "4G" and "4G+", but no LTE...which is a problem because I can barely pick up a signal other than LTE in my area. I checked and confirmed it's using the correct APN (fast.t-mobile.com). I'm on the 110/unlimited/unlimited $30/month prepaid plan and confirmed I haven't hit the LTE cap. If I put the SIM back in my Moto X Pure/Play, it hops on LTE without a problem.
Everything I've read says the radio should support T-Mobile's frequencies. Is there another setting somewhere I need to change? Do I need to flash another region's stock ROM (and is that even possible yet)? Did I get a lemon? Do I need to hold it a certain way like whatever iPhone it was a couple years back?
Any and all suggestions are welcome.
4G+ is the UK's LTE as far as iconography is concerned. Have you done a speediest on 4G+?
I've noticed the same thing, but I (as mentioned above) thought that LTE and 4G+ were synonymous. I think the only reason to flash a region based image would be to enable radio bands that are disabled based on location (which may be in this case).
Works fine here. Lower Manhattan using same version.
4G is LTE in US.
Download LTE Discovery and you'll be able to see if it is connected to LTE or HSPA(+). Mine, also from Clove, is just fine with AT&T LTE.
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I imported the 8141 from Clove in the UK. So far, my only real issue is I have yet to see it connect to LTE. I've seen "4G" and "4G+", but no LTE...which is a problem because I can barely pick up a signal other than LTE in my area. I checked and confirmed it's using the correct APN (fast.t-mobile.com). I'm on the 110/unlimited/unlimited $30/month prepaid plan and confirmed I haven't hit the LTE cap. If I put the SIM back in my Moto X Pure/Play, it hops on LTE without a problem.
Everything I've read says the radio should support T-Mobile's frequencies. Is there another setting somewhere I need to change? Do I need to flash another region's stock ROM (and is that even possible yet)? Did I get a lemon? Do I need to hold it a certain way like whatever iPhone it was a couple years back?
Any and all suggestions are welcome.
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You are looking at the signals wront, I'm on T-Mobile and have 4G+ as well it's the UK version of LTE. Look at my screenshot.
nd_geek said:
I imported the 8141 from Clove in the UK. So far, my only real issue is I have yet to see it connect to LTE. I've seen "4G" and "4G+", but no LTE...which is a problem because I can barely pick up a signal other than LTE in my area. I checked and confirmed it's using the correct APN (fast.t-mobile.com). I'm on the 110/unlimited/unlimited $30/month prepaid plan and confirmed I haven't hit the LTE cap. If I put the SIM back in my Moto X Pure/Play, it hops on LTE without a problem.
Everything I've read says the radio should support T-Mobile's frequencies. Is there another setting somewhere I need to change? Do I need to flash another region's stock ROM (and is that even possible yet)? Did I get a lemon? Do I need to hold it a certain way like whatever iPhone it was a couple years back?
Any and all suggestions are welcome.
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4G is basically the same thing as LTE in this case. 4G includes WiMax and LTE. So when you see "4G" it means you're using LTE. The same goes with 4G+ - LTE-Advanced (LTE+).
I have LTE logo on my Z3 while Z5 Premium shows 4G while using the same network.
4G is LTE in europe. We did not have that silliness that some 3,5G was called 4g. Also there is no band limitations on XZ Premium.
For app to check which band of spectrum you are connected to, please use Cellmapper app (from my signature).
If you wish to see different icon in there, you could flash Customized DE firmware which has "LTE" icon. But this has only cosmetic effect.
Instead of making a new thread, anyone knows if VoLTE works with the XZ Premium for T-Mobile?
Currently no. You need region or operator specific image Flashed (oem.sin) but there is none for XZ Premium.
But there is hope as there is t-mobile us specific modem configuration in all region images.. which will be loaded when you have correct oem image Flashed.
Hello,
It appears based on the bands (best I can tell) the global mi mix 3 may have a chance of working on Verizon? Is that a true statement or to much to hope for?
What other US carriers will it work with?
Thanks!
MrHencky said:
Hello,
It appears based on the bands (best I can tell) the global mi mix 3 may have a chance of working on Verizon? Is that a true statement or to much to hope for?
What other US carriers will it work with?
Thanks!
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T-Mobile/Metropcs (2, 4, *5,12, *46, 66, 71, *252, *255) and likely AT&T (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 29, 30). The doesn't have ALL of those, just listing their respective bands.
Also, Xiaomi will hold a taster event in December (NYC). Mix 3 will probably be there.
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
Yes. I have att in mine works perfectly. Have project fi coming next week. Good to know that works as well.
woodyp said:
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
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Have you tried using "Signal Info" app for MNVO part of google fi? It has a setting to tell it to do the auto switching, not sure if this will engage some setting for the phone or not. Thought I'd check. If not at least you could maybe test the carriers, sprint, US Cell, & Tmobile .
ernicoats said:
Have you tried using "Signal Info" app for MNVO part of google fi? It has a setting to tell it to do the auto switching, not sure if this will engage some setting for the phone or not. Thought I'd check. If not at least you could maybe test the carriers, sprint, US Cell, & Tmobile .
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Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
So will it auto switch for Google Fi? I'm in the same boat as you I have ATT for work but Fi for personal.
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So will it auto switch for Google Fi? I'm in the same boat as you I have ATT for work but Fi for personal.
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Does not auto switch unfortunately. So it's stuck on T-Mobile. Not a big deal.
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Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
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Does WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile?
woodyp said:
I have both a Google fi and an att Sim card in mine. Keep in mind the mnvo part of Google fi doesn't switch carriers so it's perpetually on T-Mobile. Sprint does work. Popped in a friend's Sprint Sim card just to test.
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Are you able to send SMS/msms messages from you Fi sim? If so how did you do it?
Anyone try on Sprint or Verizon yet?
I send via Hangouts app for SMS and MMS
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Does WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile?
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Not sure if it works. It doesn't indicate WiFi calling. Airplane mode with WiFi turned on does not allow and calls unless it's thru the Hangouts app.
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I send via Hangouts app for SMS and MMS
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Not sure if it works. It doesn't indicate WiFi calling. Airplane mode with WiFi turned on does not allow and calls unless it's thru the Hangouts app.
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I installed VoEnabler module and while it gicesw the option to turn it on in settings doesn't seem to be working in real world testing.
I would like to pose a genreal qustion about sprint's B41. It would seem to me that if the 8G/256G phone receives B41, that this phone would receive it, correct? Unless sprint has done something funky with the B41 spectrum, of course.
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I would like to pose a genreal qustion about sprint's B41. It would seem to me that if the 8G/256G phone receives B41, that this phone would receive it, correct? Unless sprint has done something funky with the B41 spectrum, of course.
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It should if the part of the band 41 spectrum is in line with what Sprint uses. Some spectrum blocks use slightly different frequencies. If the Sprint merger with T-Mobile goes through though, Sprint's CDMA will mostly be be eliminated after about a year after the merger completes. T-Mobile did this when they originally bought Metro PCS as well. For longterm use, I would be more concerned with the lack of band 66 and 71 as well as a few other missing T-Mobile bands.
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It should if the part of the band 41 spectrum is in line with what Sprint uses. Some spectrum blocks use slightly different frequencies. If the Sprint merger with T-Mobile goes through though, Sprint's CDMA will mostly be be eliminated after about a year after the merger completes. T-Mobile did this when they originally bought Metro PCS as well. For longterm use, I would be more concerned with the lack of band 66 and 71 as well as a few other missing T-Mobile bands.
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Mix 3 256G/8G has: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,34,38,39,40,41,66 bands
I guess time will tell if B41 will ever work with this phone. Sprint uses FDD (or something) that might be a funky version of their own standard.
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Mix 3 256G/8G has: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,34,38,39,40,41,66 bands
I guess time will tell if B41 will ever work with this phone. Sprint uses FDD (or something) that might be a funky version of their own standard.
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Ahhh., I get the bands mixed up between the Mi Mix 3 and Honor Magic 2. That was why I stayed away from the Magic 2, was the lack of US bands.
woodyp said:
Installed the Signal Info app (not Signal Spy). Will let you know if it switches to Sprint. I work in a building that has horrible T-Mobile coverage so I have to revert to either wifi or my AT&T sim.
FYI: It allowed me to enable the auto switching code (*#*#342886#*#*) but not carrier specific codes (e.g., Sprint)
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Was it you that said that they updated to the Dev rom and Fi works with it? I thought I read someone said it did.
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Was it you that said that they updated to the Dev rom and Fi works with it? I thought I read someone said it did.
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I'm using Dev rom w fi and att Sims. Hangouts and Hangouts dialer as my defaults
Ya, you know, Sprint is going to be tricky to test because Sprint locks their phones. From what I understand, taking a sims out of a Sprint phone and putting it into another does not work because Sprint wants the IMEI from the phone. That is why no one would want to use Sprint or would be desperate to use them. I was just wondering if Big John got a hold of the assets if he would continue the funky thing with the B41 or what it would turn into. It would be intersting to know because B41 has a 7 mile out reach, maybe further. Anyone else has a take on this?