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[Q] Droid Maxx: Not activated on Verizon, won't work

After several long calls with Verizon and help from Motorola insiders, I have been given to understand that:
1. Droid Maxx if not activated on Verizon, before leaving US, cannot be used on other carriers (say in Europe or Asia).
The reason is the SIM unlock cannot be done by the customer support since they won't see the device in their network if it is not activated first.
2. The activation cannot happen outside US, since Verizon does not have a network.
So bottom line is get the device activated before you import it from US.
Now, my Droid Maxx is locked to Verizon. I know the boot loader can be unlocked. Will this help me in flashing something that can get rid of the SIM lock that Verizon has in place.
My device is an employee edition so perhaps there was some extra protection added there by Verizon.
Please help.

I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?

KidJoe said:
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).

Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...

kanagadeepan said:
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
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Well, we have interacted on Rimweb recently.
The radio on the Droid series is the same. The difference between the mini and the maxx in your case is that the mini has never been activated on VZ network and hence it is SIM locked. Whereas, the Maxx would have been purchased as a used item (perhaps just activated and then sold off?). So that takes care of the SIM unlock part.

Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?

s_u_n said:
Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
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The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
s_u_n said:
When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
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I've been through this with some trying the Moto X in India, and I've been through it while trying my T-Mobile and ATT sim's in my Verizon Moto X.
From what you are describing, it sounds like your APN settings for your carrier on the phone are not set right.
Example... When I put my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I get "unknown sim" and bars, but no network connectivity. Nothing works. By going into the mobile network settings on the phone and adding an APN with the T-Mobile settings, features like calling, SMS, data, etc. start working. I have had occasions where I thought I had the APN right, as calls and data worked, but MMS only partially worked (would send but not receive). When I do have the settings right, everything works. Similar thing happens on my Moto X with T-Mobile SIM.
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s_u_n said:
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
Even if you are a Verizon customer who is just traveling and popped out your VZW SIM in favor of using a local prepay sim to save data/voice costs, once you pop that VZW SIM out, they wont assist.
But you have received confirmation of what I said.. the GSM side is unlocked.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
I can't offer any more than that. Sorry.

KidJoe said:
The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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I have now put in a CDMA SIM card, but run into another problem with that. I will activate that SIM on another phone and then pop it in the Maxx again and check. But CDMA should work fine as reported by other users.
But the problem is the GSM part, because that is what we need to get working.
Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
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That is bad on the part of Verizon. I have purchased a Verizon device off-contract and that device is a global one. So I am entitled to some support from them even if I am without a service plan.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
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Yes. Local carrier. And for now, there are three such XDA members who have been facing the same issue. In one case, a member was able to make calls and receive calls and also use data. Then after a few minutes, the SIM invalid message popped up.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
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APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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s_u_n said:
APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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Right, you got just DATA working with the APN settings, but the correct APN settings are also needed for SMS, MMS, Phone calls, etc.
I've had an issue where I had voice but no data, and it was related to APN. I've had an issue where I had voice, SMS, data but no MMS, again, it was related to APN settings for the carrier you are using.
So good luck!

the problem we sorted out to get gsm working in india first the phone must be activated on usa to get it work on india so can anyone help us > @s_u_n

So, after using the phone for a week on GSM with all application updates installed, I can safely state that
1. Verizon activation is not needed for non-VZ networks to work (at least outside US).
2. A full FXZ was installed and it probably solved the modem configuration mess that the phone might have been. Perhaps it unlocked something?
3. Four corner activation bypass method was used (as described in earlier Motorola phones).
Either 2 or 3 solved the problem
There was nothing to do with APN. Data works even without any APN settings out here, just like on my Motorola Defy.

FreedomPop? Offical Photon Q LTE support? When? Getting a Q on FP now?

Starting to do my research on taking my Photon Q LTE from Sprint over to FreedomPop.
Has anyone done this yet?
How did you do it and what is your opinion of the entire experience?
Is it Officially Supported by Freedom pop? If not, when?
If not supported, how to get a Photon Q LTE on FreedomPop now?
If you have any experience with FreedomPop service, please give the geographic service area you've tried and your impression of the FreedomPop service.
Thank you.

No LTE for all "SIM-cards" except the buit-in one.
There is afaik no chance to get LTE working with another carrier than the original one (sprint).

Loader009 said:
No LTE for all "SIM-cards" except the buit-in one.
There is afaik no chance to get LTE working with another carrier than the original one (sprint).
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But FreedomPop is a Sprint MVNO...
I'm not saying this will guarantee it'll work, but I'd say there's a much better chance it will.
I'm kind of curious, but not sure I'm ready to switch my phone to FreedomPop. Maybe I'll try it out on my roomie's phone first...

4g LTE works for the photonQ on Voyager Mobile and Ringplus, those are the best sprint mvno's imo...

Then it have to work without hardware modding, right?
If I'm wrong and it works with a hardwaremod, then other carrier with the same LTE frequency should also work.
I'm kind of confused, how LTE is working in our Q.

Loader009 said:
Then it have to work without hardware modding, right?
If I'm wrong and it works with a hardwaremod, then other carrier with the same LTE frequency should also work.
I'm kind of confused, how LTE is working in our Q.
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What we mean by Sprint MVNO is they basically resell Sprint service. So you aren't paying Sprint directly, but you are using their towers/network. The MVNO leases the network space from Sprint... Pretty much all the big providers lease space on their network to gain another revenue stream.

Yes, I know what a MVNO is.
But in my country you need for each MVNO an own SIM-card.
I assumed that something similiar is done in the US.
If you can change to another Sprint reseller without the need of change something in hardware, then it might work.
I'm probably unaware of the typical US mobiles and the carriers technology.

Loader009 said:
Yes, I know what a MVNO is.
But in my country you need for each MVNO an own SIM-card.
I assumed that something similiar is done in the US.
If you can change to another Sprint reseller without the need of change something in hardware, then it might work.
I'm probably unaware of the typical US mobiles and the carriers technology.
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Typically MVNOs that operate on GSM networks have their own SIM cards, however CDMA carriers (such as those running on Sprint) identify the phone by its internal ESN. Since there is no SIM to swap, the ESN has to be reassigned from Sprint to their MVNO.
And FYI, the Q works beautifully on Ting as well, LTE and all.

BAMF said:
Typically MVNOs that operate on GSM networks have their own SIM cards, however CDMA carriers (such as those running on Sprint) identify the phone by its internal ESN. Since there is no SIM to swap, the ESN has to be reassigned from Sprint to their MVNO.
And FYI, the Q works beautifully on Ting as well, LTE and all.
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Nice, thanks for the explanation.
Now, is Ting a GSM or CDMA carrier/MVNO?
I assume it's a CDMA MVNO, which works inside the sprint network and is (because of sprint) able to operate in the LTE network.

Freedom Pop is a rip off I set up a free data account and they tried to charge me. The only customer service is through there forums.
I use Ting they are great.
They resell Sprint.
Sent from my PHOTON Q using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Unlocked Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge from other Carriers

Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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They didn't block the bands. According to pdadb, the 920A and 920T don't have CDMA.

Unlocking att s6
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?

thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow

zboy2 said:
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
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musakilimanjaro said:
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
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You guys are confusing "unlocked" terms. There's a carrier unlock and a bootloader unlock. VZW phones are carrier unlocked and work on any network as long as the radio has the proper frequency support. But VZW phones are bootloader locked, meaning you can't flash unsigned packages to the device i..e. no root yet.

S6 att unlock
hi was it easy to get the att s6 unlocked. Thanks.

Mostly correct except root does not necessarily depend on unlocked bootloader, which you somewhat implied by the end of your statement.

I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom

I want the S6 but not if the bootloader is locked. I know that Verizon and ATT are the two carriers who will lock the bootloader. I'm not sure if a T-Mobile line would work due to their using GSM rather than CDMA, but doesn't Sprint use CDMA? Would we be able to purchase a Sprint variant that doesn't have a locked bootloader and then use that phone on Verizon?

Would a Vzw version work on GSM carriers including LTE? I am thinking of buying one off contract for the wife, but want it to be able to go to a cheaper prepaid service later once our contract expires.

t mobile phone on Verizon network
Would the T mobile S6 work with Verizon LTE data only? Did you try to surf the Internet?

Will a Verizon S6 work on T-Mobile? LTE as well?

It should work fine but be aware that VZW uses different LTE bands than TMO. VZW uses Bands 13/4 with 13 as Primary and TMO uses primarily Band 4 but will enable band 12 soon.

geoff5093 said:
My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Well, when carriers started putting up powers that supported LTE, the phone manufacturers were releasing phones that supported CDMA and LTE because LTE wasn't widespread enough to get an LTE signal. CDMA technology will eventually be replaced by LTE. Qualcomm owns all the parents for CDMA, so whenever anyone makes a call using CDMA, QCOM collects their revenue checks, which used to represent 51% of total revenues. It's cheaper for the carriers to run LTE because QCOM doesn't own the entire technology and they won't have to pay the royalties to QCOM for using their technology (kind of like using H.265 vs VP9 for 4K video compression. Royalties using the older H.265 compression maxed out at $5 million a year. H. 265 maxes out at $25 million vs Google's VP9 free open-source technology for video compression.
Once enough towers are up that support LTE, handsets won't come with the availability to use CDMA technology anymore. Next thing we'll see are cable providers putting up hotspot all around the city (I've already seen it with Comcast, but this could really hurt the phone companies since people won't even be using LTE anymore, just like when people had to use much slower data connections in rural areas on their cell phones because they didn't have towers. VOIP will also hurt the carriers.
So, to answer that, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't built to support CDMA anymore. These balloons that just started being launched by Google to provide Internet access to everyone in the world will be interesting to see how functional it is. It would be nice top have a high speed connection anywhere in the world.

Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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pembertj said:
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
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99% sure it wont work, see my post above
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network

SDRebel said:
I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."

SDRebel said:
Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?

Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Berzerker7 said:
Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Right, that's been my speculation for a while, but i have no inside info. Whitelisting every device would be a major PITA though...unless they bulk-whitelist then using data from the manufacturers. ..that also doesnt explain why people report being able to bring an iphone 6 or a nexus 6 over from other nwtworks (not sure if rhey have only gotten lte working and not the cdma part)
I do know the cdma functionality wouldn't be available, but tthe discussion was more along the lines of why it attached to lte ans then nothing.
The strange part is that both OP and I saw LTE eveb if for a split second. ..i would expect N attach reject if it's due to the Whitelisting.
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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The most likely reason is that you did something wrong. I have personally used verizon s3, verizon s4 and htc rezound in tmobile and other gsm networks. (I will test my s6 soon for t-mobile and cricket)
it's well known that most verizon lte phones are unlocked and have gsm functionality.
My most logical guess is that you didn't set up something like the APN.
Your anecdotal experience does not a rule make. (most common fallacy i see in real life: it didnt work for me so it doesnt work!)

[Q] VZW / build.prop

Hello all,
I am having some difficulties getting my LG-H830 working on Verizon. The phone is carrier unlocked, stock rooted and BL unlocked. I've gone through the hidden menu and when I set LTE band to 2 or 4, it says SUCCESS. I've activated the SIM on another phone before moving over to the G5 and it shows up on my account.
I get bars but no LTE symbol, so I can't make calls via VoLTE (voice over LTE) and I don't have data. When I had it working on T-Mobile, there was an LTE symbol so I know it has LTE modem. I'm wondering if I need to modify build.prop to work on bands 2,4?
FYI on the lockscreen top left it says searching. A bit odd since I have four bars.
Any ideas? Appreciate any feedback!
I'm out of a phone until its working.
EDIT/UPDATE:
I'm trying to find the proper build.prop settings to get LTE working. Currently I am looking at my VZW LG G3 build.prop, however I've yet to change any settings that gets the LTE icon showing up. I've replaced the apns-conf.xml file from the G3 in order to have the proper APN configuration.
Things I'm trying (for the most part):
ro.build.target_operator=TMO (as VZW I do not get any service, with TMO it says Verizon Wireless and I get bars, but no LTE)
ro.telephony.default_network=10 (was 9)
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1 (was commented out)
ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.sim.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.sim.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
gsm.operator.alpha=Verizon (didn't exist)
gsm.operator.numeric=311480 (didn't exist)
persist.radio.volte.dan_support=true (didn't exist)
ro.afwdata.LGfeatureset=VZWBASE (was TMUSBASE)
persist.lg.data.fd=0 (was -1)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-verizon (was android-hms-tmobile-us)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.am=android-verizon (was android-tmobile-us)
ro.com.google.clientidbase.yt=android-verizon (was android-om-lge)
I can also go into the hidden menu. Attached is what shows after selecting LTE only for the RAT.

Verizon LTE uses band 2/4 in your area for LTE and not B13?

autoprime said:
Verizon LTE uses band 2/4 in your area for LTE and not B13?
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@autoprime thank you very much for your reply.
The device supposedly doesn't support B13 and VZW in USA uses 2/4/13:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...8-0f71d7675a68/verizon-wireless-united-states
EDIT:
I tried B13 from hidden menu and result was FAIL. B2 and B4 both result in SUCCESS.

jhasty01 said:
@autoprime thank you very much for your reply.
The device supposedly doesn't support B13 and VZW in USA uses 2/4/13:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...8-0f71d7675a68/verizon-wireless-united-states
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I tried B13 from hidden menu and result was FAIL. B2 and B4 both result in SUCCESS.
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correct... H830 does not support Band 13 LTE.
but the reason I asked what I did was... different bands on Verizon are used in different areas. Just because they support B2/4/13 does not mean all 3 are available in all areas. So if you live in a B13 area.. and you don't have a phone with B13 LTE.. then you're not going to get LTE.
So you need to find out which bands are used in the areas you frequent. If you can confirm that B2 or B4 is used in your area then the issue may be something else. But if you only have B13 in your area... nothing you do will make it work on the H830.

autoprime said:
correct... H830 does not support Band 13 LTE.
but the reason I asked what I did was... different bands on Verizon are used in different areas. Just because they support B2/4/13 does not mean all 3 are available in all areas. So if you live in a B13 area.. and you don't have a phone with B13 LTE.. then you're not going to get LTE.
So you need to find out which bands are used in the areas you frequent. If you can confirm that B2 or B4 is used in your area then the issue may be something else. But if you only have B13 in your area... nothing you do will make it work on the H830.
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Thank you for the explanation and my apologies for the delayed response. I'm at work now and my VZW G3 is showing XLTE Band 4, CDMA 1xRTT. It is using 311480 as the G5 is configured for. I'll have to install this nice app (LTE Discovery) onto the G5 and compare. If you can think of anything else I may be missing to get LTE rolling on the H830, please let me know.

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@autoprime
Thank you for the explanation and my apologies for the delayed response. I'm at work now and my VZW G3 is showing XLTE Band 4, CDMA 1xRTT. It is using 311480 as the G5 is configured for. I'll have to install this nice app (LTE Discovery) onto the G5 and compare. If you can think of anything else I may be missing to get LTE rolling on the H830, please let me know.
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hmm interesting. have you tried the G5 at work in same location?
I see no reason why LTE on B4 wouldn't work on the H830 as long as the sim slot was unlocked and APN was correct.
Obviously CDMA won't be working on the H830.. nor will Verizon's VoLTE... though you could make calls while on LTE using Google Voice or other 3rd party VOIP apps.
Unfortunately I don't have a Verizon sim I could try to mess with on my H830 to see if I could get it going. Just be sure to confirm the exact area you are testing the H830 in is B4 (I get B12 if I walk into my back yard... but in front yard I get B4).. sim slot is unlocked and the proper APN is showing up as selected in the APN menu.
Hopefully someone in the same situation as you will come along and shed more light on this. Sorry I can't be more help. If I think of anything else I'll come back and mention it.

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hmm interesting. have you tried the G5 at work in same location?
I see no reason why LTE on B4 wouldn't work on the H830 as long as the sim slot was unlocked and APN was correct.
Obviously CDMA won't be working on the H830.. nor will Verizon's VoLTE... though you could make calls while on LTE using Google Voice or other 3rd party VOIP apps.
Unfortunately I don't have a Verizon sim I could try to mess with on my H830 to see if I could get it going. Just be sure to confirm the exact area you are testing the H830 in is B4 (I get B12 if I walk into my back yard... but in front yard I get B4).. sim slot is unlocked and the proper APN is showing up as selected in the APN menu.
Hopefully someone in the same situation as you will come along and shed more light on this. Sorry I can't be more help. If I think of anything else I'll come back and mention it.
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You don't think that VoLTE will work? There is an option for it and Verizon supports it (per store manager in my area).

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You don't think that VoLTE will work? There is an option for it and Verizon supports it (per store manager in my area).
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Verizon VoLTE may only works on whitelisted Verizon devices. And T-Mobiles VoLTE is custom for their network. If there is any sort of VoLTE standard.. the US carriers seem to not be following it.

Someone needs to disable the modular compatibility check so we can swap the USB/speaker for the vzw one. I have a hunch the radios for the g5 are in this part. I had a problem getting a signal one day after a battery swap and turns out I didn't have the module in all the way or dirt got in it. But this led me to a vzw shop were I asked to swap the display models module out with mine and it gave me an error upon boot. So maybe with root someone can figure out how we can swap these around to have a true world phone. The part is cheap on eBay. And maybe it can solve our problem. Mine is T-Mobile.
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Question Usa carrier support

I've asked this question before and I can't find anything.
Can anybody confirm the 0/B/E versions to work on TMobile or att or mvnos of them?
If someone wants to be so kindid appreciate it. Really wanting to buy one for root.

if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.

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if you use AT&T, don't buy any international models because they will block your sim. You may call them to unlock it but the sim will be blocked again after a couple days. The reason is AT&T has a list of supported models and international phones are not on their list.
T-Mobile doesn't have such a horrible thing. So yeah, it works.
Oh, and I am using 908E/DS on T-Mobile network.
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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.

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So when I purchase my S22 Ultra. I can use it on T-Mobile no issues? I assume it can be unlocked rooted and install custom roms.
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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.

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That’s what I’ve done and been using till now. Bought the 908E on Amazon, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. No custom rom for it yet other than tha Magisk rom by dr.ketan. I’ve always been an AT&T customer in so many years. They refused to work with me to make my phone work on their network so I switch to T-mobile.
I’m using the S22 Ultra 908E on T-mobile to write this right now. I don’t see any issue. If there is one, the phone is the issue.
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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?

The missing of band 71 if using on TMO, is a big loss. I wouldn't bother.

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Carrier aggregation and 5g all working well for you on t-mobile?
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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.

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No. I don't expect an international phone to be fully working on a US carrier network such as TMO or ATT due to missing bands. If I have to choose between slower connection and the ability to root, I'd choose the latter one. I chose TMO because it works, white ATT not working at all.
There are wifi networks available almost everywhere I go nowadays. In case there is none, usually when I was driving, 4G/LTE always available and that's good enough.
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So to confirm, no signal at all for att/cricket?
What about h20wireless? Redpocket mobile?
What site to use to check compatibility? I'll take slower speeds

To confirm:
1. AT&T blocks your sim right away. Your phone turns into a small tablet. That's it. Nothing you can do about it. I don't bother with smaller companies. I only go for the big boys.
2. T-Mobile will give you slower speed and freedom of root. This comes from my experience. Very little chance I need to use my plan's data. I can't tell the speed is slower at all. As far as carrier's features, I don't use any of them, but I think you can still have them if you change it to proper CSC.
Google search your model then you will find what bands your model support. Then Google search your choice of carrier to see what bands they have. Google is your friend.

Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.

hyelton said:
Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?

this.guy.lol said:
Will Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
This site is what I used and it looks like the version I want to get will suffice. But what do you think?
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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent

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All depends on area. It's still missing band 71 and N71 5G. I personally couldn't as it would make my phone useless in areas I frequent
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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.

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But you could get the 4G LTE tho at least right? I have a 5G phone and i only get LTE speeds which is fine but the carrier doesn't offer 5G.
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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.

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No. Band 71 is an LTE band on TMobile.
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Ohh ok.

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Not just slower speed. Theres some areas that band 71 would be required to even get service at all in rural areas. Like just 5 min from my house if you have T-Mobile and your phone doesnt have band 71 no service.
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In the end, as @hyelton just said, it all depends on your area, your luck and how you would use your phone... There is no definite answer to the op's question until he figures it out himself. It works for me and I am happy with what I got but that may not apply to everyone else... If the op decides to roll the dice for a chance to get a phone that he can have total freedom over it he can go for it. Otherwise, just buy the one on Samsung website ending with U models and have all of his worries put away. Honestly, I didn't think about any of that when I placed my order.

My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks

malikin said:
My unlocked 908U1 on t-mobile work perfectly, supported band25 with 130-180mbps speeds on LTE.
ps: 5G is totally disabled as it switching every 5 seconds between 4G\5G networks
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My OP was based on the international versions because I absolutely have to have root. I have not owned a phone that I could not have root capabilities in over 10 years.
I don't care so much about 5G I just want to have a phone that functions on a US carrier from overseas. Maybe it got lost in translation but I just want to know what carriers people have and if anybody has the carriers that I mentioned with confirmation or denial of service.
Specifically the carriers on most questioned about are H2O wireless and red pocket. I'm not very Google friendly and so I'm not familiar with the bands I'm used to just buying a phone and it working as intended for my purposes.

^^^ You're overthinking it. Just pull up the bandwidths for the carrier you're looking to utilize and go from there. As mentioned you're better served by going for one of the major carriers and maybe their prepaid services. Remember major carriers prioritize their post paid plans first for their optimum network traffic followed by their own respective prepaid plans and finally the MVNOs. I would stay away from the MVNOs in your scenario if you're importing a handset not configured for the U.S to begin it and degrading it further by using an MVNO.