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TB Motherboard

I recently was able to repair a water Damaged TB that i bough from Ebay (good ESN +++) and i thought i share a picture of the motherboard, it did have some extensive water residue around the processors and ribbon connectors. All of it was cleaned off using some 91% Alcohol a fine brush and some Canned air.. all works again minus a bad Front facing camera (my fault some how i killed it).

why not just get another tbolt then?

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why not just get another tbolt then?
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I don't think you understand the point of this thread. The man was able to take a broken (Water damaged) phone and bring it back to life.
Kudo's OP!

miketoasty said:
I don't think you understand the point of this thread. The man was able to take a broken (Water damaged) phone and bring it back to life.
Kudo's OP!
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i know but its also not fully functional.

smoother2010 said:
i know but its also not fully functional.
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I originally bought this phone to get parts for my TB, When i got the phone it was compleatly dead would not turn on or charge. I did a little cleaning and was able to get it turned but would shut off after a few minutes, that's how i found the front facing camera was working, when i swapped it out with my bad one it did not work but for some reason after a week my old one started working again. So i finished off cleaning the corrosion and checked other components once it was fully alive i tested with my Sim card and was able to get everything working except front camera(note the camera is bad not board i was able to get my other camera working on it). I used it for a full day playing games, browsing, calling peeps and it handled just like my non water damaged TB. So all in all the TB is one Tough Bitch

smoother2010 said:
i know but its also not fully functional.
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I guess you're not cut out to be a hacker then. The point of doing it is for the challenge of doing it. There's a certain kind of person that likes to do things just for the sake of knowing it is possible.

yareally said:
I guess you're not cut out to be a hacker then. The point of doing it is for the challenge of doing it. There's a certain kind of person that likes to do things just for the sake of knowing it is possible.
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hacker yes, pulling apart my phone, no your right. it is impressive he got it working but myself i would of just got a newer replacement. i wasn't bashing the guy, geez you guys are critical here.

smoother2010 said:
hacker yes, pulling apart my phone, no your right. it is impressive he got it working but myself i would of just got a newer replacement. i wasn't bashing the guy, geez you guys are critical here.
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That wasn't criticism. That was explaining why you didn't understand why he would do it. Geeze some of you guys take everything personal

Yes to all , I take stuff apart and fix it because I need to know how it works. I could have bought a new one for 350 but were is the fun in that? I bought my TB with a broken screen,lcd and housing and replaced it all, I broke the first digitizer and lcd I bought my fault for over tinkering with it, anyways after a couple of weeks of selling junk on eBay I bought another digitizer and lcd to fix it again, yes I spent about the same or more as buying a TB that was newer but from what I learned so far to me it is greater then the newer one.
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Micro oxidation scratches

I've got some scratches on the back of my One S. Its a replacement I got from HTC last week and just two days later I managed to get two scratches on them without doing anything . I've looked at this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589364 but the only solution there is to replacement the back cover, which I'm not too keen on doing as its risky. Is there any kind of polish I can use to get rid of these scratches. Also I'm not sure but it seems the actual housing is flawed because my original handset never managed to get any scratches whatsoever but this one seems to scratch way too easily. Maybe this replacement is from the earlier handsets.

It does appear that they've given you an awful handset. I've had mine for a year, never used a case and I have one little chip around the charger port, and that is it. I'm not sure if HTC will do anything, but it's best to get in contact first.

kylepont said:
It does appear that they've given you an awful handset. I've had mine for a year, never used a case and I have one little chip around the charger port, and that is it. I'm not sure if HTC will do anything, but it's best to get in contact first.
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Yeah I agree and I did contact them and they said its not covered in the warranty and they'll charge me for a repair .

lonegunman0 said:
Yeah I agree and I did contact them and they said its not covered in the warranty and they'll charge me for a repair .
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I've found in previous experiences with the HTC support team that you have to be very, very forceful with them. If I was in your situation, the right thing to respond would be to turn the blame on them for not electrocuting it properly. Just remember that the customer is always right, they normall let up after a good fifteen to twenty minutes.

kylepont said:
I've found in previous experiences with the HTC support team that you have to be very, very forceful with them. If I was in your situation, the right thing to respond would be to turn the blame on them for not electrocuting it properly. Just remember that the customer is always right, they normall let up after a good fifteen to twenty minutes.
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Thanks mate I'll try that but I doubt I'll be given a replacement since I've gone through 7 repairs and 3 replacement handsets. HTC customer service really does suck!

Somebody's had a tonne and a half of bad luck. I've had this one a year, and the only thing that has ever broken on it was the SD card (and that was my fault, and I repaired that myself anywhore). I suppose you'll just have to get a case and get on with it to be honest.

kylepont said:
Somebody's had a tonne and a half of bad luck. I've had this one a year, and the only thing that has ever broken on it was the SD card (and that was my fault, and I repaired that myself anywhore). I suppose you'll just have to get a case and get on with it to be honest.
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Yeah well all the problems started when tried doing a supercid on my phone which failed. I then sent it in for repair and ever since then its been a nightmare

kylepont said:
Somebody's had a tonne and a half of bad luck. I've had this one a year, and the only thing that has ever broken on it was the SD card (and that was my fault, and I repaired that myself anywhore). I suppose you'll just have to get a case and get on with it to be honest.
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You do mean anyhow

kylepont said:
anywhore
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You do mean anyhow
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That's becoming an unhealthy habit of mine, I almost wrote that in my English exam in January...

Those don't look like MAO chips. I think it's just dust/powder that's stuck to the MAO. Have you tried wiping it with a soft damp cloth?

djsubtronic said:
Those don't look like MAO chips. I think it's just dust/powder that's stuck to the MAO. Have you tried wiping it with a soft damp cloth?
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Yes I've tried wiping it with a damp cloth but it doesn't do anything

lonegunman0 said:
Yes I've tried wiping it with a damp cloth but it doesn't do anything
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That sucks. From my experience your only solution is to buy a replacement housing and swap it. I can understand your reluctance though, as the phone is so new. You'll learn to live with it in time, I'm sure.

djsubtronic said:
That sucks. From my experience your only solution is to buy a replacement housing and swap it. I can understand your reluctance though, as the phone is so new. You'll learn to live with it in time, I'm sure.
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This is only the minor issue. Ever since I got my original handset replaced by HTC it seems to show these large block pixels which are most visible when I'm watching videos on Youtube. Don't know whether anyone else has had this problem.

Nexus 5 phone dropped in water, please help me out with this

Ok so I got my nexus 5 on November 2013. It fell in water and it no longer shows the screen properly but it charges and loads up on pc fine. Can I get a replacement at no cost? The warranty says it doesn't cover psychical damage. If I have to pay for phone again, I'm gonna get Sony Waterproof phone, no point in wasting money on something inferior. This is a picture of the background, it's meant to be one colour
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My friend put his iphone in the fridge and got replacements.

Of course you have to pay if you dropped it in water. Sorry, but why would you expect to get it replaced for free?

Just because this phone isn't waterproof, doesn't mean it's an inferior product. Almost all phones aren't waterproof.
Warranty doesn't cover accidental damage. It covers manufacturer defects. You dropping the phone in water is not a defect. Not of the phone anyway
Unless you have insurance, you'll be buying a new phone.
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aooga said:
Of course you have to pay if you dropped it in water. Sorry, but why would you expect to get it replaced for free?
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He's clearly a troll.
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aooga said:
Of course you have to pay if you dropped it in water. Sorry, but why would you expect to get it replaced for free?
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My friend put his iphone in the fridge and got replacements.

klimaxo said:
My friend put his iphone in the fridge and got replacements.
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What the??? Go buy an iPhone then.

klimaxo said:
My friend put his iphone in the fridge and got replacements.
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Yes, and that is called fraud and it's against the rules to discuss it!
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Not to mention against the law. As sue happy as apple is, if they knew they'd probably sue him.

You messed up. It was your fault. No, it is not, nor will it ever be someone else's responsibility to cover for your stupidity. That being said, suck it up and pay for a new phone.

Um wtf
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Can they prove water damaged the phone if I send it to them?

klimaxo said:
Can they prove water damaged the phone if I send it to them?
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It depends. There are water indication stickers placed inside the phone that change color when they come into contact with water. If the water never reached the indicators, then they have no proof. BUT the indicators are always put in places where water is most likely to go first, so even if you had your phone out of the water quick enough and dried it off, it still probably wouldn't have made a difference. I say do the right thing. Instead of trying to commit fraud, just buy a new phone.

klimaxo said:
Can they prove water damaged the phone if I send it to them?
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Yes. Your problem now. Deal with it.

Just leave it in a bag of rice. It'll attract a Chinese man. And they're very good with electronics
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klimaxo said:
Ok so I got my nexus 5 on November 2013. It fell in water and it no longer shows the screen properly but it charges and loads up on pc fine. Can I get a replacement at no cost? The warranty says it doesn't cover psychical damage. If I have to pay for phone again, I'm gonna get Sony Waterproof phone, no point in wasting money on something inferior. This is a picture of the background, it's meant to be one colour
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My friend put his iphone in the fridge and got replacements.
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I don't see how that wallpaper could ever have been the same color. Are you saying the black area should have been some sort of blue?

stevemw said:
I don't see how that wallpaper could ever have been the same color. Are you saying the black area should have been some sort of blue?
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Either way you're not going to see it in a screenshot. I once had quite a long conversation about a guy who thought dead pixels would appear in his screenshots. He then started calling android ridiculous because it didn't have that feature.

This guy is obviously trolling, nobody could be stupid enough to post a screenshot thinking it would show physical damage. Just report the thread and don't feed into it anymore.
edit: This thread feels vaguely familiar to me. Pretty sure someone tried to troll here a while back with the exact same scenario, posting screenshot and all.

stevemw said:
I don't see how that wallpaper could ever have been the same color. Are you saying the black area should have been some sort of blue?
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It's all meant to be blue.

klimaxo said:
It's all meant to be blue.
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If your phone actually looks like it does in the screenshot, the phone is fine. Thats how the wallpaper looks. I really can't take you seriously right now.
@_MetalHead_ - I remember that. I think that was the thread that I was arguing about the screenshot too.

This thread is going nowhere.
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rootSU said:
This thread is going nowhere.
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It is It is going to a new state, and this state is called "closed"
As already said, yes, they can prove you dropped it in water, and no, you will most likely not get a (free) replacement. That's all that can be said about it.
And as already mentioned, putting it into rice is always the best bet with wet electronics

z3 water damage

ive read a lot about people having the same problem as i am, but no solution in my search....
soooo my phone fell into a sink of tap water for 10 secs,
i never open my ports since magnetic charging is pretty cool,
water completely ruined the screen (texting and calls still work thanks to my moto 360)
tmo says water damage is "not covered by warranty since there is water damage" even if it was sold to me as waterproof
sony says i can send it in to be evaluated but "it'll probably be a user failure if water is found in the device even if the ports were all closed"
i dont know what to do about this situation...
and my google searches arent helping :/
id hate to pay the insurance but all signs look to point in that direction...

Man if this stuff keeps happening I can see a Class Action Lawsuit coming. This is inexcusable...

Seriously, if you market a device as waterproof, you damn well better make sure it is waterproof. First thing I did with mine when I had some time was to jump into the service menu and test the barometer. Only then did I dunk it in water on purpose for a real test.
I say give call customer support, ask for a manager and escalate.

Same thing happened to me.. Went to T-Mobile, they looked at me like I was stupid and said there's nothing they could do. So I called Sony, they said they'd put it in a machine and test the waterproofing.
Send it in last week, still waiting to hear back. Rep on the phone said there's a 14 day turn-around.. Probably more at this time of the year. though.
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Artood2s said:
Seriously, if you market a device as waterproof, you damn well better make sure it is waterproof. First thing I did with mine when I had some time was to jump into the service menu and test the barometer. Only then did I dunk it in water on purpose for a real test.
I say give call customer support, ask for a manager and escalate.
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My phone also was fine with the barometer "test"

Artood2s said:
Seriously, if you market a device as waterproof, you damn well better make sure it is waterproof. First thing I did with mine when I had some time was to jump into the service menu and test the barometer. Only then did I dunk it in water on purpose for a real test.
I say give call customer support, ask for a manager and escalate.
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i also did the barometer test when i got it, 3 days later, it fell in my soapy dishes and it was fine! i dont know why this time water leaked in
but sony has also taken my phone as with xxquicksh0txx and its going through the same thing
the catch here is they "dont replace the phone, only parts" so if there is something that cant be replaced it has to be returned to me and i have to pay the insurance

I have the same problem. I used the device in a pool and after 15 minutes the device screen went black. The touch screen still works, I see that there is movement with the unit but the screen does not show anything. In contact with assistance from Sony they asked me to send the device for a technical assistance shop. Here in Brazil said it takes up to 12 days to resolve the problem, unfortunately they only exchange defective parts.

I suppose yours is defective, technically if it happened despite all ports being closed.

Hello everyone!!! Happy new year!! I have the same problem with my phone. I wanted to take a picture underwater with my friends and the screen went black. I have submerged the phone before, but never took a picture. So I'm thinking that the seal at the camera button is the one that is faulty. Because te phone was good until I pressed the button. And every person that have had issues with the "waterproof" feature of this phone always say they have the flaps closed, and the vast majority of the problems happen after taking pictures underwater. Maybe if we all gather together we can make sony change our defective units.

I would, I just don't think we have enough water damaged phones to create a change

i got the exact same problem.
my screen is black and i can't see anything but the camera still works, i can launch it with the button and can take pics even with flash.

Maybe if we create a thread where people can post they have had problems with a Z3 not being waterproof, and asking people from different android related pages. We can do something. I think having more than 1 is enough to say this is a problem with the phone.

same sh**
My z3 wash it less than a minute in the sink it switched off I did eveverything to dry it but nothing happens when I plug it it starts to vibrate ?

Sent mine in a few weeks ago, just got an email with a tracking number saying it'll be here tomorrow...
No other email or contact from Sony in the past 2 weeks. Awesome customer service...

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Sent mine in a few weeks ago, just got an email with a tracking number saying it'll be here tomorrow...
No other email or contact from Sony in the past 2 weeks. Awesome customer service...
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Let us know how the phone goes when you receive it. Maybe water "resistance" should have been the marketing gimmick. :good:

Finally received the phone back today. There was a list of things they replaced, which I'll post later when I get home from work.
Everything looks good aside from a few things.
Some glue residue that it more visible between the screen and the housing, it's not bad and isn't very noticeable unless you're looking for it.
Looks like there's something at the bottom of the screen, I'm hoping it's some type of glue that isn't set yet and will eventually go away... If not I'll have to send it back again.
I will however be giving it a bath later tonight to be sure the waterproofing has been fixed.

Idol 3 4.7 dropped in water now screen very dim (please help)

The phone was fully submerged for about 5 seconds, i removed the back cover and the sim tray and put in a sealed bowl of rice for a day. It started up ok and i was able to make a call but the screen is very dim with no change if i adjust the brightness settings. I then just switched it off again and put it back in the rice as wasn't sure if this was because there may still be moisture in it. I didn't try any of the other functions so not sure if everything else still works. I am new to the site and a noob with phones so was just looking for advice on where i should go from here. Do i phone Alcatel? phone my service provider? repair centre (will it cost alot)? Wait it out? or try starting it up again? (its been in the rice another day) Will my warranty be void? Can the dim screen be fixed DIY?
Sorry for the many questions i've never had this happen and its the first contract phone I've had and only for two months
Hoping for help

DAferr said:
The phone was fully submerged for about 5 seconds, i removed the back cover and the sim tray and put in a sealed bowl of rice for a day. It started up ok and i was able to make a call but the screen is very dim with no change if i adjust the brightness settings. I then just switched it off again and put it back in the rice as wasn't sure if this was because there may still be moisture in it. I didn't try any of the other functions so not sure if everything else still works. I am new to the site and a noob with phones so was just looking for advice on where i should go from here. Do i phone Alcatel? phone my service provider? repair centre (will it cost alot)? Wait it out? or try starting it up again? (its been in the rice another day) Will my warranty be void? Can the dim screen be fixed DIY?
Sorry for the many questions i've never had this happen and its the first contract phone I've had and only for two months
Hoping for help
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It takes longer than a day to dry out. Also make sure you are using new rice from a sealed bag and putting it into a completely sealable container. Give it a few more days. Sometimes it takes a week to completely dry out.

kevev said:
It takes longer than a day to dry out. Also make sure you are using new rice from a sealed bag and putting it into a completely sealable container. Give it a few more days. Sometimes it takes a week to completely dry out.
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Thanks for the reply and advice. Its in an airtight container. The rice was boxed rice but not in a bag will this make a big difference? should i swap some bagged rice into the container when i can get some? I was tempted earlier to try it again but glad i didn't after reading your post i'll give it a few more days. Do you think the dim screen problem may sort its self out with extra time to dry out? Any idea why it was so dim?
Fingers crossed
Many Thanks

DAferr said:
Thanks for the reply and advice. Its in an airtight container. The rice was boxed rice but not in a bag will this make a big difference? should i swap some bagged rice into the container when i can get some? I was tempted earlier to try it again but glad i didn't after reading your post i'll give it a few more days. Do you think the dim screen problem may sort its self out with extra time to dry out? Any idea why it was so dim?
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Box rice will have absorbed all the moisture it can while on the shelf. Yes use bagged rice. Dim screen is usually water affecting screen. The backlight will not light up. It is a safety feature if a short is detected anywhere in the device.

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Box rice will have absorbed all the moisture it can while on the shelf. Yes use bagged rice. Dim screen is usually water affecting screen. The backlight will not light up. It is a safety feature if a short is detected anywhere in the device.
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Transferred it into some bagged rice. Gonna try stop myself from trying to start it up until Sunday night. Happened on wed morning do you think that will be long enough of a wait.
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It's a pretty common problem. You should take to a repair center. It's sounds like pm (Power management) ic gone bad. It' not user serviceable. Forget that rice bs. Take to a professional and get it repaired as fast as possible. Warranty won't cover this.

Sportsmaster said:
It's a pretty common problem. You should take to a repair center. It's sounds like pm (Power management) ic gone bad. It' not user serviceable. Forget that rice bs. Take to a professional and get it repaired as fast as possible. Warranty won't cover this.
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Why "as fast as possible" ? is it not worth waiting to see if the rice thing works then if not go down the repair centre route?

DAferr said:
Why "as fast as possible" ? is it not worth waiting to see if the rice thing works then if not go down the repair centre route?
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His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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I saw that you are the op. Pay the piper and next time don't be a fool and mind your phone.

Sportsmaster said:
His running the risk of messing up his board completely. The fault is becoming more expensive. Who knows where the water has gotten in. That rise trick is lame and it doesn't work. Some youtube celebrity made it up for views and subs and what not. There are people educated who feed there family by working as repair technicians. Digital ic are very fragile and he is corrupting his memory more and more as time goes bye.
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I saw that you are the op. Pay the piper and next time don't be a fool and mind your phone.
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Those dam celebs and their rice tricks wheres the piper so i can pay him?

out of the rice!
put the cover back on and charged it and started it up the screen wasn't coming on at all now then put a little pressure on the screen as the cover hadn't clicked in right and the faint screen showed up. Could barely see but managed to make a call and receive one. everything seems to work so far except the screen is still almost unreadable. also sometime when using the touchscreen it will go completely black again but randomly putting a bit of pressure on the screen with my thumbs it will then show up again for a while then it goes black agin at some point pop using the touch screen.
Any ideas what the problem is or what i should do now?
Also the dimness varies very slightly with pressure on the screen when trying to get it to come back on.

replace screen
Would replacing the screen fix the backlight problem or is the light produced from another part of the phone?

Fix Backlight???
Anyone know how to fix the backlight?

oh dear, what are you trying to get for a advice? you droped it into water. the water entered the phone, so there is no warranty. you can try to repair it, but when the corrosion starts it can affect every part of a phone (in days, weeks months). Of course you can repair the LCD and touch screen next time motherboard etc. It will definitely cost you more than a new 6039 device. So get over it and buy a new one, ther eis nothing you can do with it.

Just buy the 5.5 inch from cricket it us 129 right now unlocked it from unlock code either from eBay or several unlocker sites u can find with Google search. This is cheaper this n repairing it and u also get the better version of this phone.