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I just received the ZeroLemon 9,000 mAh Extended Battery and Case for the LG V10 today.
I am going to leave a review here and update this as I use it for the first few charges.
Before I start, ZeroLemon did provide me with this extended battery and case for review purposes.
Like all of my reviews, this does not affect my opinions of the product and this will be my honest opinions and thoughts.
I have attached quite a few pictures to this post, however if you would like a different picture, just let me know.
Let me start this by saying, this case big.
You know this already though if you wanted this huge of a battery in your phone.
This case is not quite double the thickness of the phone.
The phone at its thickest point without the case (The camera hump) is 0.417 inch.
The phone with the case on is 0.703 inch.
The case will add 0.286 inch to your phone.
I find this is still pocketable, about the max that I would want to carry in my pocket but I can do it and it does not bother me.
The flaws that I found in the LG G4 case and battery have been addressed this time on the LG V10 case.
The ports at the bottom all have a small lip to prevent dust intrusion.
The sides of this new case are thinner and do not add any bulk to the top, bottom, or sides of the phone.
They have added Fast Charge capabilities to the battery this time around.
With Fast Charge comes huge decrease in charging times on this battery vs the one from the G4.
This is a welcome addition considering the 6 hour charge times of the past.
This case is much like previous ZeroLemon cases in overall design.
The looks are the same while the case seems to be a little softer material this time.
There is quite a bit of internal structure in the top portion of the case that is extended above the buttons to make this case much more solid than previous cases were.
The sides of this case are flush with the screen while the top and bottom both stick up slightly to prevent your screen from ever touching anything should you lay your phone down screen first.
This slight change from previous cases makes a huge difference in the overall feel of the case in a good way.
The ports on this case all line up perfectly, including the opening on the back for the camera and volume/power buttons.
The headphone opening is large enough for me to use all of the headphones that I have.
The USB port is also large enough for me to use all the USB cables I have.
The overall fit of the case is excellent, I for one am glad that they did not release this case until it was perfect.
DAY 1
Battery life so far has been excellent.
First day I have 3 hours screen time and approximately 11 hours of use.
I did have this connected to a moto 360 smartwatch via bluetooth as well as a pair of bluetooth headphones.
I had about 4 hours of music streaming on and off throughout the day.
I have the screen set to 100% and 2 emails, one gmail and one exchange, both set to push.
I have 55 minutes of voice calls today.
I started the day with the battery at 92%.
The battery is now sitting at 68%.
On an day like today my battery would usually have been at about 15% and I would have had to charge when I got home or swap a battery out.
I do not think it is possible to kill this battery in one day.
If I had had the screen set to auto brightness I would easily get double the screen on time.
DAY 2
Battery life is still excellent, better than the first day.
Ended the day wit 72% remaining.
75 minutes of phone calls.
3.2 hours screen on time.
DAY 3
Battery life is getting better still
Ended today with 75% remaining.
78 minutes of phone calls.
3.2 hours of screen on time.
I will hold off on updates for a few days.
So far usage is steadily improving over what I had already considered excellent.
I will update this again in a week or two with detailed stats.
I will update this section as I use the phone over the next few days and charge cycles.
So far the battery arrived with 56% charge.
I installed the battery in my phone and put the case on it and plugged it in to charge in a Quick Charge 2.0 charger.
It charged to 100% in approximately 45 minutes.
This is the first charge and I let it charge for an additional 12 hours as stated in the instructions.
I do not think it actually takes that long, however it is what is recommended so I will do it.
ZeroLemon recommends to allow 5 to 6 full charge cycles to achieve optimal performance.
I will come back and update this review after 6 full charge cycles with battery stats then.
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Amazon Link (Currently Sold Out as of 3/9, was $59.99)
**So far I have one day usage reported, I will continue to update this for a while or as long as people ask for updates.**
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Can the sd card be removed without removing the battery?
I'm getting pretty excited here! As soon as I come up with some creative bookkeeping I'm going to order one of these! (hopefully they're back in stock soon)
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How's button access? Is it awkward to use? How about the fingerprint sensor?
Thanks for the in-depth review and pictures.
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Can the sd card be removed without removing the battery?
I'm getting pretty excited here! As soon as I come up with some creative bookkeeping I'm going to order one of these! (hopefully they're back in stock soon)
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Yes the SD card can be removed without removing the battery, you would still need to shut off the phone first I would assume.
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How's button access? Is it awkward to use? How about the fingerprint sensor?
Thanks for the in-depth review and pictures.
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You are welcome, I will update it tomorrow after work.
Button access is better than I expected.
The sides of the opening are slanted so your finger is sort of pushed right where it needs to go.
For the fingerprint sensor... I have the T-Mobile version and do not have the update that fixes the fingerprint sensor.
So you still have to be touching the metal edges for it to work right on mine.
However the if I flex the side of the case a little I can get my finger on the metal edge of the phone and it works perfect.
I would assume once I update my phone to fix the sensor there would be no issues at all.
If you have a version that does have the update for the fingerprint sensor it will work perfect for you.
What about photos? Does the case interfere with the autofocus, or does it cause the flash to interfere with the picture?
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Hi, thank you for review, can you please shoot a photo side by side (I know it needs work but appreciate) with and without the case to see the real thickness of the device with the battery.
Thank you for the effort.
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What about photos? Does the case interfere with the autofocus, or does it cause the flash to interfere with the picture?
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I did not notice any issues with it, I will check again today after work.
fethi2 said:
Hi, thank you for review, can you please shoot a photo side by side (I know it needs work but appreciate) with and without the case to see the real thickness of the device with the battery.
Thank you for the effort.
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I will try, but it will be difficult to get both items to scale. I do have a caliper that I can actually measure both with and give the measurements.
fethi2 said:
Hi, thank you for review, can you please shoot a photo side by side (I know it needs work but appreciate) with and without the case to see the real thickness of the device with the battery.
Thank you for the effort.
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Updated the original post with measurements via caliper.
The phone at its thickest point without the case (The camera hump) is 0.417 inch.
The phone with the case on is 0.703 inch.
The case will add 0.286 inch to your phone.
Thanks checked it out. :highfive:
Milimbar said:
Updated the original post with measurements via caliper.
The phone at its thickest point without the case (The camera hump) is 0.417 inch.
The phone with the case on is 0.703 inch.
The case will add 0.286 inch to your phone.
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Milimbar said:
Yes the SD card can be removed without removing the battery, you would still need to shut off the phone first I would assume.
You are welcome, I will update it tomorrow after work.
Button access is better than I expected.
The sides of the opening are slanted so your finger is sort of pushed right where it needs to go.
For the fingerprint sensor... I have the T-Mobile version and do not have the update that fixes the fingerprint sensor.
So you still have to be touching the metal edges for it to work right on mine.
However the if I flex the side of the case a little I can get my finger on the metal edge of the phone and it works perfect.
I would assume once I update my phone to fix the sensor there would be no issues at all.
If you have a version that does have the update for the fingerprint sensor it will work perfect for you.
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I have the AT&T and it has been updated. The fingerprint scanner seems to work even better. I get a lot faster response from it.
yuppy for about 5 minutes they had 5 available and was able to order one, now its sold out again
Got mine yesterday. Charged 12 hours overnight and put it in this morning at 07:40. It's now 09:02 so coming up on 1.5 hours and I am down to 73%. I hope the % is way off if not I got a lemon. Probably 1 hour screen on time
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Is this their regular case or a ZeroShock Case?
How do feel about the texture of the outter cover? Does it feel slippery? Or real "grippy"
I am getting very similar results. I posted about it in the other thread but I'm thinking maybe we need to calibrate the battery? I just don't know how. But yea... I'm getting pretty much normal battery life.
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valestrand said:
Got mine yesterday. Charged 12 hours overnight and put it in this morning at 07:40. It's now 09:02 so coming up on 1.5 hours and I am down to 73%. I hope the % is way off if not I got a lemon. Probably 1 hour screen on time
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I am getting very similar results. I posted about it in the other thread but I'm thinking maybe we need to calibrate the battery? I just don't know how. But yea... I'm getting pretty much normal battery life.
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Well, now it's 13:25 and I am down to 15% left. With the normal battery I would be around 40 at this time..
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Phone died at 1500 so got 7.5 hours out a 9000mah battery.. Lol
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You got a zero lemon [emoji6] waiting for mine now
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Phone died at 1500 so got 7.5 hours out a 9000mah battery.. Lol
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I would contact ZeroLemon, because I got 32 hours out of mine.. And I don't gimp my phone, full bright and everything on.
I'm curious if you have the standalone LG battery charger, does the ZL battery fit or would the cover flap need to be removed?
If you do and it does fit I'd appreciate a pic!
I don't see myself needing two ZL batteries, but it would be nice to know if it's still a good charging option without having to modify.
Based on your photos it looks like it could possibly just fit or be a slight squeeze.
Thanks!
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I'm curious if you have the standalone LG battery charger, does the ZL battery fit or would the cover flap need to be removed?
If you do and it does fit I'd appreciate a pic!
I don't see myself needing two ZL batteries, but it would be nice to know if it's still a good charging option without having to modify.
Based on your photos it looks like it could possibly just fit or be a slight squeeze.
Thanks!
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Yep. It fits without any modifications. Just won't close, obviously. Did it on my initial charge so I didn't have to stay tethered to the wall for 12 hours.
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Ok today i got my zerolemon samsung galaxy s5 7500mah battery, all i got to say is that thing is big and bad, the one thing i really don't like is the way the tpu case fits a bit loose around my phone, for those wondering about the heart rate monitor it is easy to use since your finger lands on the sensor, the phone don't weigh too much as i thought it will, but i will post more after the first charge cycle
My brother had one of these on his s4, and it reminded me of this image. I just don't get it. If you manage your device and ensure that you disable unused applications and services then you can easily get a day of use. Tripling the size of the phone vs. tweaking what it actually does. To each their own, either way thank you for the review, I'm sure that the case fit issue is valuable information for those who are looking at these as a purchase option.
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Ok today i got my zerolemon samsung galaxy s5 7500mah battery, all i got to say is that thing is big and bad, the one thing i really don't like is the way the tpu case fits a bit loose around my phone, for those wondering about the heart rate monitor it is easy to use since your finger lands on the sensor, the phone don't weigh too much as i thought it will, but i will post more after the first charge cycle
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My brother had one of these on his s4, and it reminded me of this image. I just don't get it. If you manage your device and ensure that you disable unused applications and services then you can easily get a day of use. Tripling the size of the phone vs. tweaking what it actually does. To each their own, either way thank you for the review, I'm sure that the case fit issue is valuable information for those who are looking at these as a purchase option.
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Depends on usage. I use mine all the time for work and I can barely get through a day without needing some extra juice. So if you are one that NEEDS an extra battery like this its perfect.
I loved mine for the s3. The case felt a little loose on it but i still got used to it. I am concerned by the last of waterproofing but if the battery performs will probably get one. Please let us know asap how it performs.
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I love the 10000mah version for my note3, Does well when I go on my 3-4 day camping hikes, I like the way it feels in my hand, Still waiting to receive my battery for the S5, You got yours early! I preordered mine 2 weeks ago.
Just ordered mine today (Going to have to wait to it ships to the UK though) loved the S3 version. Never went wrong with anything zerolemon
Already sold out on amazon.com I think
That's a little overkill, don't you think? Even heavy smartphone users get a day's (10-12 hours) of use out of their phone. I mean that big of a battery would seriously get annoying to me. Turn your brightness down man.
I get about 8hrs regular battery, even with 25% brightness. Power users we are and that juice is what it keep us away from being attached to a charger... Attached to a wire.
I got my pre-order on the 16th, And I'm returning it, I'm hoping I got a defective case & battery.
Case doesn't seem to hold battery in that well, I can knock the back of the case and the phone will reboot or shut off completely.
The case seems very loose along the sides as well, I think due to them packing the box and & battery inside of the case while shipping which seemed to stretch the case out a bit making it loose on the sides.
I'm going to ask for a replacement, if it's the same issues on the next one I'm asking for a refund.
any update robert ?
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any update robert ?
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so far i was able to get 1 day 19 hours and 8 hours on screen not to bad for the first cycle this was the email i got regarding the case
Hello,
We are sorry to hear of your trouble. We are working on a replacement of the case that will fit more tightly.
We will be able to replace this case for you in approximately one and a half weeks time when the new cases arrive in USA.
Our reseller cc in email will be able to offer this replacement.
Best Regards,
Joey
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I had this battery for the S3, I loved it. However I don't want to lose the waterproofing on the S5, and I think the case is ugly this time around..
Anyway after rooting and installing the Infinity ROM, I get 2 days of moderate use out of the stock battery..
So for the $50 price of that battery, I instead bought the 18600mah Zerolemon Juicebox.. Same price, 2 1/2 times more power..
I can charge my phone 7 times without having to recharge the Juicebox.. It also charges 2 phones while charging the Juicebox at the same time, most battery packs can't do that.. Plus with the USB 3.0 cable, it charges my phone from dead in 90 minutes..
I have a bag on me at all times, so carrying it around is no biggie.. It's the size of my phone..
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p.s. - They should pay me for this lol.. but yea, I'm happy
Got mine of Friday last week.
Followed the instructions to charge if without disturbance for twelve hours before using. I am at sixty percent now and am beginning to think it will last me one week per charge. I stream pandora when in car with bluetooth, play games, surf internet, check all emails once an hour, update facebook three times a day, send texts and receive calls about three or four an hour, cast netflix and youtube, update weather once every hour, keep screen on auto brightness, never turn off wifi, etc. Unreal performance from this battery. I'm actually looking forward to using a charger! But they say do not do it until the phone reaches 2 percent. So I wait.... The case does seem a little loose to me and I don't really care for the style, but aesthetics aside, a real good bang for the buck!!!! I would highly recommend for anyone who would actually like a real uncorded phone that can be used for a good week at a time without worrying about a charger cable and what not. :good:
So on my first use I was able to use the phone with heavy use, WiFi always on, Bluetooth on in car, Pandora streaming with screen on, emails checked every 2 hours, Weather updated every two hours, Games like spades, hearts, some other graphically intense ones, Calls and SMS, some pictures and web surfing total time to 2%: 5 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes, 59 seconds. The owner of ZeroLemon said that they will be sending me a better case as soon as they get them and hope that it will fit the phone a little better, however even though the case I have is a little mushy, it does stay on. Very easy to remove which could be a good or bad thing depending how you look at it. So far I would rate the battery with a five star and the case with a two. Definitely like not having to plug the phone in every night and everytime I'm in the car.
I'll receive mine soon. I can't wait to see how it will goes. On previous phone I bought mugen one which are X2 more expensive than this one.
It's good to know they'll replace the case.
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So far it look great. 10% for 2 hours on screen time and it's only the first cycle too.
Yea the case suck, I contacted the Amazon.com reseller for the replacement, I'm still waiting for his answer.
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Wonder if the "looseness" is a problem with the first batch of cases? I had a ZL on a Note 2 and the tpu was perfect, never gave any signs it would easily come off. I'm getting a S5 just to have a ZL, hope they fix this issue.
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Wonder if the "looseness" is a problem with the first batch of cases? I had a ZL on a Note 2 and the tpu was perfect, never gave any signs it would easily come off. I'm getting a S5 just to have a ZL, hope they fix this issue.
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Yea it's a problem with the first batch. It's getting fixed, ill receive my new one in 2 weeks maximum.
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First cycle done. Only used ultra power saving for the night.
It should get better after a few cycle, but I'm already in love with it.
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Id like to get this battery but part of me wants to wait for a zeroshock case like what i had on my Note 3.
I'm coming from the Note 4. I kept it for the last few years as I loved the battery swapping ability (carried two almost credit card thin batteries in my pocket whenever I went out) and the memory slot. But it was getting long in the tooth.. The batteries were getting worn out and I was jealous of all the faster CPUs out in the market.
So when the S7 Edge came out, I jumped on it because the screen was almost the same size at the Note 4, I could use my memory card again, a better camera, a faster CPU. and the shiny shiny silver body.
While my Note 4 was rooted and running a ROM, I decided I wasn't going to do this with the S7. I wanted to be able to use Samsung Pay, and most of the things I had rooted for, seemed to be fixed by Android Marshmallow.
I could write a huge list of all the things I love about the phone. But you guys aren't here for that. Let's talk about the things that I am having issues with.
1.) Screen sensitivity on the edges. When I first got the phone, I was having problems using Samsung Keyboard and Google's Keyboard. The keyboard keys that were on the outside edge kept not clicking. After a bit, I realized that it was because my pinky was touching the other side of the phone. I had to be more careful on how I held the phone. But then I got a case for the phone and this issue was taken care of, as now my pinky gripped the plastic.
2.) Phone call image. This may seem silly, but i like to see a much bigger picture of the person that is calling me. Why did Samsung now make the picture sooo small now? On the left is my old Note 4. On the right is the S7:
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3.) The camera settings. Why does the camera keep resetting after a while back to automatic? I want it to keep in Pro mode, so I can shoot RAW everytime. I was taking photos of the sunset today, and after it was done, only then realized it was not in Pro mode anymore so I didnt have the RAW images to play with.
4.) The camera settings 2. Why is the 12 megapixel only work at 4:3, but if you want to shoot at 16:9, you only get 9.1 megapixel? Who shoots 4:3 ever? All the photos I have taken, no longer fill my 1080p screens of my computer or TV. Hell, they don't even fill the screens of the phone itself. What is the point of shooting 4:3? Now I need to step back when taking photos, so I can crop them into 3:2 later.
5.) Games/movies not filling screen. So one thing I loved about the Note 4, was that almost all movies and games fill the screen 100%. Now, it seems like a lot of stuff is not filling the screen all the way. One example is Need for Speed: No Limit. The game almost seems cropped when playing.
6.) Slippery. This thing has no grip. I'm afraid constantly it will slide out of my hands. I got a case and now it's perfect. I have a good grip and have less finger prints everywhere.
7.) Battery life. So, as a lot of people have been discussing lately, their seems to be an issue with the Snapdragon 820 processor causing the Android System to eat up 30% of the battery. This does not happen on Samsung's own Exynos chip. So while my battery lasted 12 hours today and is only at 30%, I still wish it was more. Especially seeing that I can't replace it.. and in a few months, it won't be as good. I know a lot of you are saying that the phone needs a couple days to burn in, but it's been 4 days. And I'm worried about battery life bigtime.
Speaking about batteries, I really wish there was a smaller battery that could charge the phone just once at Quickcharge 2.0 speeds. The smallest I could find is the AUKEY Portable 6000mAh, but the thing is huge.. I may return this. I'd be happy with a 3500mAh one that is half the size so it can fit in my jeans pocket, like I carried my spare Note 4 batteries. But they don't make that.
The case I got was the "Galaxy S7 Edge Case, Spigen® [Liquid Crystal] Ultra-Thin [Crystal Clear] Premium Semi-transparent / Exact Fit / NO Bulkiness Soft Case for Samsung Galaxy S7" (seriously... that's the long ass name that is on Amazon). It is very thin, but provides an amazing grip, kills the finger print problem, and I think can save this phone from 3-4 feet falls. The only thing I don't like is the raised lip it has on the bottom. It extends too far out from the bottom of the phone. Either I will take a razor blade to it, or look for another case, as I can see it get very annoying for me.
Ok.. That's it. Hope this helps some people. If you have any ways to fix the stuff I am having issues with above, please let me know. I'll leave you with the pic I took of today's sunset. Unedited, unfiltered, in unglorious 4:3 ratio.
With a 16:9 picture you lose quality toward the edges so the 4:3 retians the same quality and is already cropped. Think of the difference similar to a full frame DSLR and a crop sensor (APS-C) that cannon uses on their Rebel line. I personally enjoy the 4:3 ratio for pictures, but everyone is different. When you change to 16:9 all its doing is crop the 4:3 picture to thst ratio. Also the dialer picture screenshots are not consistent. The Note 4 is showing a contact and the S7E is dialing someone (in call UI) so please fix that so the comparison will be accurate.
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With a 16:9 picture you lose quality toward the edges so the 4:3 retians the same quality and is already cropped. Think of the difference similar to a full frame DSLR and a crop sensor (APS-C) that cannon uses on their Rebel line. I personally enjoy the 4:3 ratio for pictures, but everyone is different. When you change to 16:9 all its doing is crop the 4:3 picture to thst ratio. Also the dialer picture screenshots are not consistent. The Note 4 is showing a contact and the S7E is dialing someone (in call UI) so please fix that so the comparison will be accurate.
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Yes, I figured out that reason why it lost megapixel when going to 16:9, is because it was cropping the image. I shoot full frame with my Sony a7RII. I've never shot with a crop sensor. LOL. It's just annoying that I can't fill the screen with my shots.
As for the call screen from my Note, I would have to reactive my old SIM to get my Note 4 active, which would be a pain in the butt. So I just Googled an example:
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Yes, I figured out that reason why it lost megapixel when going to 16:9, is because it was cropping the image. I shoot full frame with my Sony a7RII. I've never shot with a crop sensor. LOL. It's just annoying that I can't fill the screen with my shots.
As for the call screen from my Note, I would have to reactive my old SIM to get my Note 4 active, which would be a pain in the butt. So I just Googled an example:
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That works, it was just hard to compare two different things. I haven't owned a Samsung phone since my Note 3 which was a long time ago. I'm sure you end up cropping those photos a lot, but full frame sensors give you more 'picture' to choose from. Samsung probably use the 4:3 ratio based on what Sony offered for the sensor features they wanted. I haven't taken enough photos in Pro mode to notice whether or not it defaults back to auto a while, but I'll look out for that. I took a bunch of pictures with the S7E and compared then to my 6P for fun. The S7E does better in certain situations it just depends on what you're doing with it. I still have mixed feelings about the phone especially the battery life (dismal right now).
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I'm switching from at note 4 so these little insights will be handy. How is loudspeaker volume when playing music and video files compared to the note, cheers.
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Im pretty sure ur battery took a big hit due to kernel/partial wakelocks
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How is the camera? it seems to me that u not really impressed with the GS7 Edge.
Guys we already have a first impressions thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/impressions-t3325825
I know everyone is excited about the new phone but can we try to not have 100's of threads all the same
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3.) The camera settings. Why does the camera keep resetting after a while back to automatic? I want it to keep in Pro mode, so I can shoot RAW everytime. I was taking photos of the sunset today, and after it was done, only then realized it was not in Pro mode anymore so I didnt have the RAW images to play with.
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Hello and thanks for your impressions
maybe with the next FW update, samsung will solve camera settings :-/ a bad bug for this cool device.
Can you explain better about first point? 1.) Screen sensitivity on the edge
without case is not handy write with keyboard? I never had a border smartphone and I'd like be sure to buy this.
The time spent with note4 about writing with keyboard (like email, etc) can be the same using this device or the border are a problem?
thanks!
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Hello and thanks for your impressions
maybe with the next FW update, samsung will solve camera settings :-/ a bad bug for this cool device.
Can you explain better about first point? 1.) Screen sensitivity on the edge
without case is not handy write with keyboard? I never had a border smartphone and I'd like be sure to buy this.
The time spent with note4 about writing with keyboard (like email, etc) can be the same using this device or the border are a problem?
thanks!
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I've noticed the same issue even with a case. Sometimes whole I'm typing with 1 hand the keyboard will think I'm hitting letters that I'm not. It then starts to massively lag in my case forcing me to reboot the phone because nothing will make it stop once it's started even when typing with the phone flat on a table. It's a software bug that should be easily fixed.
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Pilz said:
I've noticed the same issue even with a case. Sometimes whole I'm typing with 1 hand the keyboard will think I'm hitting letters that I'm not. It then starts to massively lag in my case forcing me to reboot the phone because nothing will make it stop once it's started even when typing with the phone flat on a table. It's a software bug that should be easily fixed.
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exactly: (excluding this bug) is it handy and smart writing with this device like a flat mobile?
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exactly: (excluding this bug) is it handy and smart writing with this device like a flat mobile?
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What do you mean? I rarely if ever put my phone flat on a table to Type anything unless I'm using side sync via my laptop.
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What do you mean? I rarely if ever put my phone flat on a table to Type anything unless I'm using side sync via my laptop.
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I mean if writing with S7E is handy as a flat screen
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I mean if writing with S7E is handy as a flat screen
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Is harder to type on compared to a flat screen, and has a strong learning curve (no pun intended)
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I believe since your note 4 is rooted, you have done some editing. If I'm not mistaken, you are using the full screen caller mod. Unless they changed it from the note 3 and s5, which uses a small picture, to a full size picture on the note 4, I'm sure it's a mod you've installed.
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I'm switching from at note 4 so these little insights will be handy. How is loudspeaker volume when playing music and video files compared to the note, cheers.
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The speaker is maybe 2x the volume of the Note 4. It's VERY loud.
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How is the camera? it seems to me that u not really impressed with the GS7 Edge.
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No.. I am impressed. The stuff I listed is just the annoying things that I would love fixed. The camera seems to take great pics. Fast to load up. Fast to take the pic. RAW option is awesome. Autofocus is fast. Front facing "wide" camera option is awesome. It's just annoying that it shoots in 4:3. All monitors, laptops, TVs (of the last decade), tablets, phones, etc are all wide (like 16:9). Nothing is 4:3 anymore. So now every picture I take, doesn't fill the screen.
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Hello and thanks for your impressions
maybe with the next FW update, samsung will solve camera settings :-/ a bad bug for this cool device.
Can you explain better about first point? 1.) Screen sensitivity on the edge
without case is not handy write with keyboard? I never had a border smartphone and I'd like be sure to buy this.
The time spent with note4 about writing with keyboard (like email, etc) can be the same using this device or the border are a problem?
thanks!
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If your fingers not to grip the edge of the screen, then you should have no issue. I was getting better at it, but then my case arrived and I stopped having to do it that way.
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exactly: (excluding this bug) is it handy and smart writing with this device like a flat mobile?
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Not exactly a "bug". More like a new way to use the phone. But yes, after training, you will have no issue typing one handed. But I would advise getting a case anyways, as the phone is slippery as hell.
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I believe since your note 4 is rooted, you have done some editing. If I'm not mistaken, you are using the full screen caller mod. Unless they changed it from the note 3 and s5, which uses a small picture, to a full size picture on the note 4, I'm sure it's a mod you've installed.
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Yes, I was using the TEKXodus ROM on my Note 4 phone which def had that. But I saw images online of the S6 have this come as standard. I really don't want to root this phone, so I am hoping there is some kind of solution.
That's cool mate cheers I was more than happy with the note so I should be over the moon with the s7 edge. So overall are u happy you switched?
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That's cool mate cheers I was more than happy with the note so I should be over the moon with the s7 edge. So overall are u happy you switched?
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90%. I just need to make sure the lack of swappable battery is not an issue. I actually have a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here with iphones and android phones who desperately need to charge their phones in the middle of the day. I never had this issue. I have literally never gone anywhere and asked if I can use a place to charge up. Bringing a few extra Note 4 batteries with me was always the solution. That's why it's a shame that there is no small jean pocket size solution for the S7, that can charge the phone fully within an hour.
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90%. I just need to make sure the lack of swappable battery is not an issue. I actually have a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here with iphones and android phones who desperately need to charge their phones in the middle of the day. I never had this issue. I have literally never gone anywhere and asked if I can use a place to charge up. Bringing a few extra Note 4 batteries with me was always the solution. That's why it's a shame that there is no small jean pocket size solution for the S7, that can charge the phone fully within an hour.
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The 6000mah Aukey battery is small and likely your best bet. You have to remember that a 3-4k battery won't fully charge your phone. Some of that capacity is lost due to heat and inefficiencies while charging. I carry the Aukey 6000mAh battery in my backpack and its light/small enough that I forget it's there. A smaller battery would be nice but it would need to be at least 4-5K if you want any possibility of a 0-100% charge. I had a RavPower 20100mah battery that only charger at ~60-70% efficiency which is pretty good for an external battery.
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The 6000mah Aukey battery is small and likely your best bet. You have to remember that a 3-4k battery won't fully charge your phone. Some of that capacity is lost due to heat and inefficiencies while charging. I carry the Aukey 6000mAh battery in my backpack and its light/small enough that I forget it's there. A smaller battery would be nice but it would need to be at least 4-5K if you want any possibility of a 0-100% charge. I had a RavPower 20100mah battery that only charger at ~60-70% efficiency which is pretty good for an external battery.
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As a backpack battery, the Aukey 6000 is great.. But I barely carry a bag when i go out. And now that summer is coming up, I wont have a large jacket to carry the bag. So I need something I can carry in my jeans front pocket that has Quickcharge 2.0 so I don't have to keep it cabled for more than an hour.
Hi all. I've decided to keep the G5 longer after my contract has expired.
I think the phone is still great for my usage and I don't need the very latest just yet. I will update to oreo (once I figure out the guides and versions).
My main concern is the battery. My original battery dated 2016 doesn't hold much charge now. In 2018 I did purchase a second one manufactured in 2017 from replacebase UK (they sell oem parts by dismantling phones, so I know everything is genuine unless stated).
The problem was the 2017 battery wasn't as good as the 2016 one.
I would think that a battery that is just shelved for months or even a year or so, would irreversibly deplete, and then not be able to give full capacity.
My mod/theory idea is, if a battery of similar physical size, from newer released phones late 2018 or 2019, could be adapted to be used in the LG G5?
Even if the battery is an internal type (as most are going).
It's not about increasing capacity, but having a freshly manufactured one.
I'm sure something could be done or adapted. Has anybody tried something similar?
With a fresh oem battery, you'd have guaranteed quality and it holding a good, new like charge.
I dont want the external battery cases. Not efficient and adds too much bulk.
Thanks for reading
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I don't think it's possible to adapt another OEM battery to our G5. The phone will most likely complain about a invalid battery or not start up at all and maybe fry the phone. The only option is to buy 3rd parties from Amazon or eBay.
https://www.amazon.com/HETP-Upgrade...g5+battery&dpPl=1&dpID=414-7CVhAPL&ref=plSrch
I bought this and its been great. Better than my original.
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Those battery cells will fit g5 body
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I bought this and its been great. Better than my original. View attachment 4701943
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I bought the same one and seems to be good for me
Guys, I just modded the s7 edge battery into my G5. Bought spare for the edge {3600 mAh!) and soldered it to the circuitry from an aftermakrket G5 battery (2800ish mAh).
Check out the attached pics, battery life is now GREAT. 5+ hours SOT, LOS 16, maxish brightness.
It's really easy, too. 30 minutes soldering iron on to iron off.
You can also look on Youtube for other people doing this.
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Guys, I just modded the s7 edge battery into my G5. Bought spare for the edge {3600 mAh!) and soldered it to the circuitry from an aftermakrket G5 battery (2800ish mAh).
Check out the attached pics, battery life is now GREAT. 5+ hours SOT, LOS 16, maxish brightness.
It's really easy, too. 30 minutes soldering iron on to iron off.
You can also look on Youtube for other people doing this.
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Hi, I see two variations of the battery. Did you use S7 edge version or non. It's hard to get the model number, most details seems written in korean. Thx
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Hi, I see two variations of the battery. Did you use S7 edge version or non. It's hard to get the model number, most details seems written in korean. Thx
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I bought this model:
SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) EB-BG935ABE 3600mAh
The cell is marked as manufactured in 08/2019, and looks new. It was 12€ shipped nationally, but I think you can find it for the same price locally.
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I bought this model:
SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) EB-BG935ABE 3600mAh
The cell is marked as manufactured in 08/2019, and looks new. It was 12€ shipped nationally, but I think you can find it for the same price locally.
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Thanks for that. Will order one after christmas now or Jan. Will make quite a difference, especially as I'm still using the phone now with Lineage 15, soon 16.
Funny thing is, I just realised I was the one who started this thread a year ago!
I saw followed your thread from G5 LOS and just seen this thread. :laugh:
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Thanks for that. Will order one after christmas now or Jan. Will make quite a difference, especially as I'm still using the phone now with Lineage 15, soon 16.
Funny thing is, I just realised I was the one who started this thread a year ago!
I saw followed your thread from G5 LOS and just seen this thread. :laugh:
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Oh, what a nice coincidence! :laugh: I'm super glad people are finding out about this mod and actually go ahead and do it. I'm recommending this so much lately that one may think I sell those.
By the way, battery life is *much* improved, but consider getting the LG Xpower cell, the larger of the two, I kinda regret not knowing about it earlier. I understand there may be no documentation on it, but I did the S7 cell a the shot in the dark way and it's not really rocket science. Anyway, you got this :highfive:
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I have an X Power just laying around with a cracked screen. Anyone want to do this for me? LOL
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I have an X Power just laying around with a cracked screen. Anyone want to do this for me? LOL
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Have you ever used a soldering iron?
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Hello
Hello
I have problem with battery life some long time, I switch sometimes 3 batteries to endure a single day.. And I saw this thread and decided to try, nothing to lose exept time, some amount of money, and one of battery So by reading comments I decided to test it with better option - xpower 4100mAh cell. So i ordered it from amazon, it was marked as original, but I'm not sure is it?! Inside of the battery is Sanyo upf52471o2z battery, but with LG bl-t24 cover!? Is that normal or no, I'm not sure.
Nevermind, main problem here are sizes. New battery is a little thicker, but just enough to be hard to insert it in or even harder to take it out, but ok its possible(somehow), with risk of cracking screen of course(btw I didnt crack it)!!
Second BIG and unsolvable problem is length, its same size as original LG battery but without board with pins, so when you put and solder board from old battery its bigger just enough to be impossible to put bottom module... ((
So I wonder if there is anyone else who tried something similar? To suggest something? I'm planning to try again but with s7 edge battery, that should work for sure, as @totalnoob34 had success with it.
I would post some pics of work but like new member I cant, unfortunately.
sale018 said:
Hello
I have problem with battery life some long time, I switch sometimes 3 batteries to endure a single day.. And I saw this thread and decided to try, nothing to lose exept time, some amount of money, and one of battery So by reading comments I decided to test it with better option - xpower 4100mAh cell. So i ordered it from amazon, it was marked as original, but I'm not sure is it?! Inside of the battery is Sanyo upf52471o2z battery, but with LG bl-t24 cover!? Is that normal or no, I'm not sure.
Nevermind, main problem here are sizes. New battery is a little thicker, but just enough to be hard to insert it in or even harder to take it out, but ok its possible(somehow), with risk of cracking screen of course(btw I didnt crack it)!!
Second BIG and unsolvable problem is length, its same size as original LG battery but without board with pins, so when you put and solder board from old battery its bigger just enough to be impossible to put bottom module... ((
So I wonder if there is anyone else who tried something similar? To suggest something? I'm planning to try again but with s7 edge battery, that should work for sure, as @totalnoob34 had success with it.
I would post some pics of work but like new member I cant, unfortunately.
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Hi and welcome, my reddit friend. You can search this section and my posts here, I replied to the XPower guy here.
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Guys, I just modded the s7 edge battery into my G5. Bought spare for the edge {3600 mAh!) and soldered it to the circuitry from an aftermakrket G5 battery (2800ish mAh).
Check out the attached pics, battery life is now GREAT. 5+ hours SOT, LOS 16, maxish brightness.
It's really easy, too. 30 minutes soldering iron on to iron off.
You can also look on Youtube for other people doing this.
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Can you give a YouTube video link?
I tried using that LG xpower battery also and I don't recommend it, just ordered the SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) EB-BG935ABE 3600mAh modded by totalnoob34 and we'll see how it fits.
Im going to try this, there are valid questions about the x power cell being too long once you attach the board from the sacrificial g5 battery. I got a slightly swollen s7 edge battery which still performs like new but i had to replace it since it opened my s7 edge back panel from the inside just a bit. the g5 has lots of space inside. im waiting for my g5 which i got for 54 USD and the reviewers/buyers and the seller claimed the units look brand new. Might be refurbished but i didnt think twice about ordering at that price. btw i only found one video on youtube about this mod
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I tried using that LG xpower battery also and I don't recommend it, just ordered the SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F) EB-BG935ABE 3600mAh modded by totalnoob34 and we'll see how it fits.
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so what happened?
As per a request for first impressions in another thread, here you go...
Pre ordered a 256gb in green directly from Samsung in the UK. It arrived early yesterday after a surprise email saying it would come a week early. Spent Friday setting up so today was the first real day of use. Still updating apps and extra logins etc but I feel I have a decent idea how it will go as I move from a Note 10+.
Thoughts...
1. Packaging - nicely done and a little quirky. Adds to the event
2. Build quality-feels amazingly well screwed together. The hinge is absolutely solid and tight. No worries at all. The device feels light and is very easy to hold. It is an absolute delight to make calls from, the slightly narrow frame makes it so easy to hold in the hand for extended periods both for calls and screen use.
3. The crease - you can absolutely see it and feel it. After 10 min, honestly, you just don't notice it at all and if you do, it reminds you that you have a phone that folds in half!
4. Speed-it feels rapid and smooth. The 120hz is definitely noticeable and there is no lag at all
5. Battery - it is still optimising so hopefully it will adapt and improve. It came off charge at 7.00am today at 100% and went back on at 8pm with 10% left. This was with 30 min Bluetooth music, 2 hrs browsing, 30 mins gaming, 2 calls about 10 min each and around 50 messages through the day with 10 photos as I played with the camera (director mode?!). Also had a smartwatch bluetoothed all day too. About 5% an hour seems about what I saw today There is no way it will ever go from getting up to going to sleep without a top up but I expected this and am okay with it. To be honest, the note 10 + struggled with similar usage some days. Looks like about 1hr 25 to fill up again from 10% with a fast cabled charge.
6. Setting up - the transfer software is spookily good and it still feels like magic when your old phone home screen appears on your new device
7. Folding - it is a novelty I don't feel will wear off soon.... set mine to answer and end calls as I open and close and the satisfaction is just brilliant. No idea why and can't really explain, it just feels right.
8. Cover screen - far more readable than I thought and is great for checking notifications and dismissing them. I can definitely see the way it will work. Imagine mid range smartwatch abilities on the outside of the phone and you get an idea what it will do. It does more than enough and it doesn't need to do more.
9. Case-Samsung leather in green. Fits great, does what you want it to, will keep it safe enough. Looks really boring. Will probably change it when I get chance for something more in keeping with a fun phone
10. Regrets - yesterday I was a bit unsure, by the end of today I am completely converted and wouldn't dream of sending it back. Amazed.... it feels like a half a dozen steps forward over the note10+ in so many ways.
11. Other people - be prepared for other people to want to hold it and fold it....
Hope this helps someone and happy to try and answer questions if I can
Thanks for the review. I'm coming from a note 9 so looking forward to small form.factor.
Glad to hea opening and closing can answer/hangup calls. I assumed it would bt haven't found anyone mention it.
Regarding the leather case, does it make it much thicker? Does it feel like a thick wallet?
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Thanks for the review. I'm coming from a note 9 so looking forward to small form.factor.
Glad to hea opening and closing can answer/hangup calls. I assumed it would bt haven't found anyone mention it.
Regarding the leather case, does it make it much thicker? Does it feel like a thick wallet?
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It isn't a thick case at all and really doesn't add much to the phone, it is maybe 1 - 2mm at most. It is very well made and feels good, I just find the green colour s bit boring
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Thanks for the review. I'm coming from a note 9 so looking forward to small form.factor.
Glad to hea opening and closing can answer/hangup calls. I assumed it would bt haven't found anyone mention it.
Regarding the leather case, does it make it much thicker? Does it feel like a thick wallet?
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The setting is in the call settings rather than the main setting menu. Took me a little while to find it
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Jealous you received your early. However, what a great little review of what to expect! Thanks.
Loving my flip 3 but have a issue when it comes to using android auto, keeps disconnecting and crashes.
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Loving my flip 3 but have a issue when it comes to using android auto, keeps disconnecting and crashes.
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Seems to be fine on my Mégane 2019. I know this doesn't help you though.
Just for info really. Maybe try the beta version?
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Loving my flip 3 but have a issue when it comes to using android auto, keeps disconnecting and crashes.
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I have a 2018 skoda karoq which will have a similar infotainment system. I needed to remove the phone from the car and the car from the phone and Bluetooth as all settings had copied over but wouldn't work.
A re-pair of Bluetooth and then a fresh set up of android auto worked for me. I also used a new cable just in case as it often gets flaky after about 6 months use.
It is working reliably now.
Good luck
Quick thoughts since ...
The camera is really nice and produces decent photos. Not really missing the telephoto lens
And I had forgotten the joys of a fingerprint scanner that just works quickly and first time, every time. Why it ever moved from the power button (I had a Sony z series) I will never know.
Battery is week, but I was expecting it. With battery care charging to 85% it does not last full day for me. Taking of charge at 7.00 around 18.00 it is left with just few percent of battery. 1,5h on screen time. 2-3 hours bluetooth music (that looks to be eating battery fastest), 5 email acounts, 30 min of talks. Smartwatch (garmin - looks also eating quite a lot) connected all day long. + covid tracking app (bluetooth) on all the time.
Android auto connects no problem (MB e class 2017). There was a problem before due to cable. To my surprise just few cables worked out of 10+ i had. Only original ones worked or very thick one from amazon basics.
Tried to connect via wireless dongle (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aawireless#/) but after connected after ~4-5 min crashes. Did not spend much time yet, but it seams that even if it will work in the end, will be not possible to use as battery is depleating by 3%/min and phone becomes very hot when connected.
Bought aramid cover. Looked nicer than black leather. As aramid cover is thiner by half an does not look to be so scratchy.
Bought samsung rectangular wireless charger with USB C. Wirelss charging works only when original (included with pad) ~18w charger is connected. Tried other lower 10-15w charges and with them the wirellses charging pad does not work. Tried borrowed older Micro USB samsung charging pad, so it charges with any charger, just slower.
Well, this is not good news
I've had my Flip 3 for 4 days now, and loving it. I have contacted tech support for a reason/answer why.
Samsung kills the cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 if you unlock the bootloader
Unlocking the bootloader of the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 reportedly breaks all the camera-related functionalities. Read on to know more!
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I got my phone yesterday too. It's great so far, the only issue I'm facing is excessive heating on the top panel. I'll see if today after more normal use it gets better. Did you experience heating on your unit?
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I got my phone yesterday too. It's great so far, the only issue I'm facing is excessive heating on the top panel. I'll see if today after more normal use it gets better. Did you experience heating on your unit?
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I've had mine for a week now. 8/128, black version F711B. The excessive heating under the cover display is quite disturbing. Noticed it mostly during video calls (GM, Skype, Wahatspp, etc.). When on video calls, it discharges the battery to 0 in about 70 minutes from almost full and heats up so much I can't touch it.
Hoping for a firmware update...
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I got my phone yesterday too. It's great so far, the only issue I'm facing is excessive heating on the top panel. I'll see if today after more normal use it gets better. Did you experience heating on your unit?
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The first day or so when it was downloading massive updates and restoring backups etc - yes. Not noticeable almost all of the time now, occasionally warm when charging
Coming from a Pixel 4 and after using the Z Flip 3 for the whole day, I will sadly be returning it to the box. I love the technology behind it and what the future holds, personally I am waiting for a "mini" version. I find the Z Flip 3 actually bulky and heavy for a device that is supposed to make foldbles more poket-able. To me, It does not feel light and it is not that small either when folded. Plus, I don't get it why they made the screen so tall when opened, it is wasted screen past a certain screen ratio (22:9 !?...c'mon). It is so tall the phone wants to roll around the fingers when texting, you have to squeeze it to hold it. Maybe the ergonomics are better and everything is just perfect if you have bigger hands and fingers? This is something worth trying individually. I didn't expect not to be able to get used to the Flip in my hand, before I received I was thinking it will be love at first sight.
For those who are used to and prefer screens this big and tall, you will most likely going to love the phone, the screen definitely delivers. The crease is almost a non issue. When looking straight at the phone, on a white background like in Messages or Chrome, you will not see the crease.
I have had the device since Saturday. Build quality is top notch and I like the form factor and love the portability. I am still not fully convinced. Battery life is as expected the biggest concern. I think it will get you through a light to medium use day. I mean the idea of the phone is too keep you away from it with digital wellbeing in mind. Checking for notifications on the cover screen should help keeping you from opening and using it all the time. At least this is my idea. I don't want to use my phone that much anymore.
There are still some software quirks which hopefully will get ironed out. And hoping for more features for the cover screen.
Btw I noticed one thing: The cover screen doesn't show an incoming Whatsapp voice or video call. You can only answer telephone calls from the cover directly via loudspeaker. Same for duo. I can't access a call from the cover screen. Can anybody confirm this behavior? Not even showing the Whatsapp ones is really annoying... I am lucky that my Garmin is connected and at least will show it on the watch
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I got my phone yesterday too. It's great so far, the only issue I'm facing is excessive heating on the top panel. I'll see if today after more normal use it gets better. Did you experience heating on your unit?
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Yes, heats up. Browsing web and listening to music via bluetooth heats up quite a lot. Installed samsung labs app and reduced max temp by 2 degrees to get earlier throttling. Not sure it had any effect. Even if it works, 2 degrees too little to notice.
I have had mine out of the box for literally 5 hours. So far, so good, I have noticed some heat build up when wireless charging bit OK when wired charging. Battery life so far is poor but it is still learning usage patterns so hopefully that will improve. The device is very solidly built and the internal screen is beautiful. I had been holding off buying a flip until the external screen size was improved and I am very happy with what Samsung have done here. Cameras are OK, I am no photography buff though! It fits into my pocket perfectly and you cannot beat that fold/ unfold action!
The camera is pretty bad. Coming from an iPhone 12 pro max and one plus 7 pro, it's super muddy. Zooming in, it's a muddy, pixelated mess. Even outdoors in a well lit area, the detail and sharpness is pretty meh. Pretty disappointing since I think I read it has the same camera sensor as either the s20 or s21.
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The camera is pretty bad. Coming from an iPhone 12 pro max and one plus 7 pro, it's super muddy. Zooming in, it's a muddy, pixelated mess. Even outdoors in a well lit area, the detail and sharpness is pretty meh. Pretty disappointing since I think I read it has the same camera sensor as either the s20 or s21.
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It's the same hardware as the previous Z Flip. You're comparing phones that were in competition for best camera phone to one that tried to pack current Qualcomm hardware into a center fold. The camera and battery are where they brought the price down.
I'm honestly a bit surprised Samsung didn't follow Asus in doing a split battery. The first thing I thought of when seeing the ads for that on the ROG Phone 5 was the Z Flip.
I'm coming from a Note 20 Ultra with the 108MP camera and near perfect action shots. I can definitely appreciate losing quality, but it's also a personal question of whether it outweighs the novelty.
I have searched through the internet and I see that similar queries have been raised in the past. Unfortunately, no one seem to have found a definitive answer to this question.
I'll narrate my own experience about this problem, and I will post the solution, if I figure out the cause.
I updated my Samsung phone to OneUI 5.0 about a month back, and I'm seeing that the battery drain is significantly more than what it used to be on OneUI 4.x. During the 1st week, I thought that this could be due to some software optimization related background activities (which typically shouldn't require more than 2 charge cycles), but the battery drain continues to be bad even after a month, and probably getting worse.
When going through battery stats, I can't see anything unusual. But the battery just drains. Idle drain is now over 2 to 3% per hour, compared to about 1% earlier on OneUI 4.x.
My phone setup hasn't really changed from before the update. This makes it difficult to find out the cause of battery drain.
Looking back, the two other changes that coincided with the 5.0 update is that I installed a new screen protector (plastic film), and tried a new case. I have been using my phone without a screen protector until now, but this is not something I want to continue doing.
I have removed the case now to see if there is any improvement in battery life. If there is none, my next option would be to remove the screen protector too, just to test it out.
Since I'm noticing idle battery drain even with AOD off, I guess the screen protector isn't the issue.
Does anyone think that screen protectors or back cases can indeed be a cause of battery drain?
No. Screen protectors don't increase battery drain. A case could if it reduces the signal strength ie a case with metal. Carbon fiber is also an excellent electromagnetic shield. I doubt any actually use real carbon fiber though.
All Samsung's should be optimized by hand. Every time you upgrade the firmware you change the playing field. If optimized you risk screwing that up bad. I'm still running One UI 1.5 on this N10+, with a new battery I easily get 12+ hours SOT. I'd rather have the better performance and SOT than the new features especially scoped storage.
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No. Screen protectors don't increase battery drain. A case could if it reduces the signal strength ie a case with metal. Carbon fiber is also an excellent electromagnetic shield. I doubt any actually use real carbon fiber though.
All Samsung's should be optimized by hand. Every time you upgrade the firmware you change the playing field. If optimized you risk screwing that up bad. I'm still running One UI 1.5 on this N10+, with a new battery I easily get 12+ hours SOT. I'd rather have the better performance and SOT than the new features especially scoped storage.
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I'm using the thinnest case (Spigen Thin Fit) and there are no metal part to it.
If I add up the battery % drained by the listed apps (as shown under Settings/ Battery), it won't explain even half of the actual battery drain. So what is draining the remaining battery?
I have tried a few of the suggestions I found online (turning off NFC, UWB, Suspend execution of cached apps, etc.), but none of that helped. I have gone through the other settings as well, and have pretty much tried all the usual stuff, with no improvement in results.
As with Scoped Storage, it is a welcome change. I would be happy if they provided even more control to the user, than open everything up for apps. You can take a look at this post.
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I'm using the thinnest case (Spigen Thin Fit) and there are no metal part to it.
If I add up the battery % drained by the listed apps (as shown under Settings/ Battery), it won't explain even half of the actual battery drain. So what is draining the remaining battery?
I have tried a few of the suggestions I found online (turning off NFC, UWB, Suspend execution of cached apps, etc.), but none of that helped. I have gone through the other settings as well, and have pretty much tried all the usual stuff, with no improvement in results.
As with Scoped Storage, it is a welcome change. I would be happy if they provided even more control to the user, than open everything up for apps. You can take a look at this post.
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You including the display and Gookill play Services, Backup Transport? I use Package Disabler and kill about 70 apps then use many setting changes. Google play Services is normally disabled. Global power management is always disabled as it is a menace and battery drain for me. All Google, Samsung, Carrier and app feedback is disabled and/or firewall blocked.
Firebase is disabled. No cloud apps except Gmail, enanled as needed.
Scoped storage wastes cpu cycles, battery and my patience. Not needed if you don't make stupid mistakes.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, anything from Pie and above is relatively secure. The current load is over 2.5yo, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. Last fireware update was 3 years ago. No malware at all during that time. It runs like a bat out of hell; a fast 1.5tb dual drive handheld PC with excellent SOT. What's that tell you?
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As already mentioned screen protectors does not effect battery usage in anyways. Phone does not know if you are using screen protector or not.
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I'm using the thinnest case (Spigen Thin Fit) and there are no metal part to it.
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Samsung N10+ all the way to the heavy S22U are hard corner hitting, face plant happy fools when dropped. Good multilayered protection and slightly higher than display side guards are needed to protect them adequately. The Zizo Bolt doesn't add much bulk but adds a lot of protection. It never comes apart or off in a multiple impact drop.
I use Gorilla IQ Sheild screen protectors, inexpensive, long lived and use an easy wet apply hydrocell technology.
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You including the display and Gookill play Services, Backup Transport? I use Package Disabler and kill about 70 apps then use many setting changes. Google play Services is normally disabled. Global power management is always disabled as it is a menace and battery drain for me. All Google, Samsung, Carrier and app feedback is disabled and/or firewall blocked.
Firebase is disabled. No cloud apps except Gmail, enanled as needed.
Scoped storage wastes cpu cycles, battery and my patience. Not needed if you don't make stupid mistakes.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, anything from Pie and above is relatively secure. The current load is over 2.5yo, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. Last fireware update was 3 years ago. No malware at all during that time. It runs like a bat out of hell; a fast 1.5tb dual drive handheld PC with excellent SOT. What's that tell you?
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Google apps are important to me and I use Netguard to block internet access to apps that should work offline. I also use adguard dns.
My setup is fine and has been working well for years. OneUI 5.0 is the most likely culprit, and i can't think of anything else apart from the case and screen protector that can also play a role, as these are the only changes that were made before the battery drain problem started.
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As already mentioned screen protectors does not effect battery usage in anyways. Phone does not know if you are using screen protector or not.
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It is not about the phone knowing about the screen protector. The query is whether the material used in the screen protector can make the display draw more power than it would without it.
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Samsung N10+ all the way to the heavy S22U are hard corner hitting, face plant happy fools when dropped. Good multilayered protection and slightly higher than display side guards are needed to protect them adequately. The Zizo Bolt doesn't add much bulk but adds a lot of protection. It never comes apart or off in a multiple impact drop.
I use Gorilla IQ Sheild screen protectors, inexpensive, long lived and use an easy wet apply hydrocell technology.
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I prefer to have a minimalistic case, and more so for this phone (S22U) because it is a little too wide. I don't usually drop my phone, and i need the case primarily to protect from scratches and scuffs which are bound to happen over time. I have been using this phone for over 6 months without any screen protector.
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It is not about the phone knowing about the screen protector. The query is whether the material used in the screen protector can make the display draw more power than it would without it.
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Well screen protectors are mainly made from plastic or glass so..
I don't have seen any posts or news discussions on this but still i don't think screen protectors effect battery life in any way.
If this could be tested then it maybe different story if results are different.
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Well screen protectors are mainly made from plastic or glass so..
I don't have seen any posts or news discussions on this but still i don't think screen protectors effect battery life in any way.
If this could be tested then it maybe different story if results are different.
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I have used both plastic films as well as tempered glass screen protectors on all my other phones, and never had battery drain issues, except on one occasion.
From the stats I'm unable to figure out what is draining the battery. So trying to see what other factors can potentially cause this problem, and I really can't think of anything else that changed before this problem started.
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I prefer to have a minimalistic case, and more so for this phone (S22U) because it is a little too wide. I don't usually drop my phone, and i need the case primarily to protect from scratches and scuffs which are bound to happen over time. I have been using this phone for over 6 months without any screen protector.
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One drop is all it takes. It may not even be you who drops it. Worse a high G impact can damage the mobo; the BGA's chipsets (the SOC) are particularly susceptible to board flex and high G loading.
Been using the Bolt for 3 years and this N10+ looks new, even the frame. It's taken about a dozen drops onto concrete from 2-4 feet with zero damage.
Lol, now that you cursed yourself you might want to upgrade. The Bolt is grippy but doesn't attract dust so it helps keep the device ports clean too.
It's actually easier to use the N10+ in this case and helps prevent accidental screen touches.
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One drop is all it takes. It may not even be you who drops it. Worse a high G impact can damage the mobo; the BGA's chipsets (the SOC) are particularly susceptible to board flex and high G loading.
Been using the Bolt for 3 years and this N10+ looks new, even the frame. It's taken about a dozen drops onto concrete from 2-4 feet with zero damage.
Lol, now that you cursed yourself you might want to upgrade. The Bolt is grippy but doesn't attract dust so it helps keep the device ports clean too.
It's actually easier to use the N10+ in this case and helps prevent accidental screen touches.
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I have the Spigen Tough Armour (and some other cases too), but I prefer the Thin Fit and Caseology Parallax case, because both of these provide good protection, are very good looking, and also don't make you feel like you are carrying a brick. The Zizo Bolt case is just too thick and it's design is not to my taste. I would rather use the Spigen Tough Armour instead. I don't like UAG cases either. I prefer sleek looking phones over ones that look like a tank.
As with that unlucky drop you're referring to, I have seen a phone display shattering with the case on. So if it has to be that unlucky, even a good case will not be able to protect it. That said, i agree that the chances of protection is greatly enhanced with a good quality case.
Been using Spigen cases for a very long time and they have done an excellent job (I have dropped my phones a few times, but those are rare). My 6 year old iPhone 7 Plus looks brand new even today with zero scratches or scuffs.
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I have the Spigen Tough Armour (and some other cases too), but I prefer the Thin Fit and Caseology Parallax case, because both of these provide good protection, are very good looking, and also don't make you feel like you are carrying a brick. The Zizo Bolt case is just too thick and it's design is not to my taste. I would rather use the Spigen Tough Armour instead. I don't like UAG cases either. I prefer sleek looking phones over ones that look like a tank.
As with that unlucky drop you're referring to, I have seen a phone display shattering with the case on. So if it has to be that unlucky, even a good case will not be able to protect it. That said, i agree that the chances of protection is greatly enhanced with a good quality case.
Been using Spigen cases for a very long time and they have done an excellent job (I have dropped my phones a few times, but those are rare). My 6 year old iPhone 7 Plus looks brand new even today with zero scratches or scuffs.
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It doesn't happen often sometimes for months, then twice in one week. Sometimes I miss my cargo pocket, etc. Or forget it was on my lap.
The raised guards save it from drop on a flat surface like concrete.
I've tested that, repeatedly
The displays on Samsung's are at the bottom of everything and not an easy repair. It's the last thing you want to break other than the mobo. Frame replacement is even worse. Best to keep them in one piece.
The N10+ is a wide phone and a slippery fish without a case. Some refuse to case them. If it does take the plunged approach with care as the spen has the quaint habit of jettisoning itself. Don't step on it, always make sure it's still nested
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My battery is now at 16%. If I add the usage of apps listed, it comes to less than 50%. So what used up the remaining 34% battery?
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My battery is now at 16%. If I add the usage of apps listed, it comes to less than 50%. So what used up the remaining 34% battery?
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The display. Device Care shows it on its second screen. Set brightness to manual and keep it as low as is comfortable. Avoid using in direct sunlight as it also hard on the display. At 30% you'll see a noticeable improvement. Setting to 60hz may also help.
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The display. Device Care shows it on its second screen. Set brightness to manual and keep it as low as is comfortable. Avoid using in direct sunlight as it also hard on the display. At 30% you'll see a noticeable improvement. Setting to 60hz may also help.
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The Device Care design has changed a bit on Android 13. I don't see the option to display more information than what you see in the screenshot.
I have maxed out all my Settings like WQHD+, 120 Hz, Auto Brightness, Bluetooth, Location, etc. I don't see a point in buying a premium phone and then setting it up to work like a mid-ranger.
And my battery was fine on OneUI 4.x with the same settings.
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The Device Care design has changed a bit on Android 13. I don't see the option to display more information than what you see in the screenshot.
I have maxed out all my Settings like WQHD+, 120 Hz, Auto Brightness, Bluetooth, Location, etc. I don't see a point in buying a premium phone and then setting it up to work like a mid-ranger.
And my battery was fine on OneUI 4.x with the same settings.
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"Improvements" Samsung probably rather you not know how much power these new flagships are sucking down. EVen a 5002 mAh battery doesn't quench its thirst adequately.
Yeah I hear you. It's like mounting Christmas lights and not turning them on.
Try clearing the system cache. Clear system logs with Device Care (I'm still using the version with 360° on it which works very well, I just firewall block it). Sd Maid pro can find junk others can't.
Other than checking and experimenting with the new settings the only other option is a factory reset. You could globally reset all settings for apps which is pretty drastic. Both may not resolve the issue.
Try running in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps. WhatsApp is a bad one and may not have been correctly updated to play nice with the new firmware.
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"Improvements" Samsung probably rather you not know how much power these new flagships are sucking down. EVen a 5002 mAh battery doesn't quench its thirst adequately.
Yeah I hear you. It's like mounting Christmas lights and not turning them on.
Try clearing the system cache. Clear system logs with Device Care (I'm still using the version with 360° on it which works very well, I just firewall block it). Sd Maid pro can find junk others can't.
Other than checking and experimenting with the new settings the only other option is a factory reset. You could globally reset all settings for apps which is pretty drastic. Both may not resolve the issue.
Try running in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps. WhatsApp is a bad one and may not have been correctly updated to play nice with the new firmware.
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I will fully charge my phone and reboot it in Safe Mode and leave it overnight to see how much battery drain occurs. If the battery holds up well (negligible idle drain), then we can say it is some 3rd party app that is draining battery.
Will let you know tomorrow.
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I will fully charge my phone and reboot it in Safe Mode and leave it overnight to see how much battery drain occurs. If the battery holds up well (negligible idle drain), then we can say it is some 3rd party app that is draining battery.
Will let you know tomorrow.
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Remember the Google system apps are prime suspects and they are still running.
Some pesky 3rd party apps insist on invoking Google play Services whenever they run. It's the game that moves as you play it