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Solution for S5 simultaneous talk and surf issue

This is for the S5, but I assume it would work on the galaxy note 4 and all other devices with this issue.
Hi all, I wanted to let you know that there is a very easy work around for this limitation. It is supplied by Google Inc through the Hangouts Dialer app. I'm not sure whether or not you need Hangouts installed to use it, but it allows you to make calls via the data network and still use the network to browse the web, etc. I have tried it several times at home with WiFi off and it works flawlessly so far.
It's sad that Sprint didn't find a way to bypass this limitation on their own, or at least inform customers, but this is an easy and seamless solution by Google.
I put the icon right next to my default phone icon for future use.
Additionally, I can not believe that Sprint is not aware of this work around. I spoke to a few different representatives today, and none were able to offer a solution.
I found this on my own searching the play store. Hope this helps!!

I posted this in the community forum on sprint.com. Hopefully they will figure out a way to make it work......
Sprint:
As I have stated in other posts, the "Hangouts Dialer" app allows you to make calls over the data connection without WiFi and still be able to surf the web. (Please note, this app is different from "Hangouts", it is "Hangouts Dialer" by Google Inc.)
This works on my S5, and it should work on any device that can install the app.
This has not been suggested by any of the Sprint Agents in any of the posts I have seen. I have seen suggestions to use Skype and other VOIPs, but there are some charges and they require a WiFi signal.
This is very confusing because if the app is able to make calls using the data network, then why doesn't Sprint set up the default dialer to do the same thing if there is no WiFi connection? I do understand that this would increase the load on the data network, but you are losing customers at a significant rate due to this issue. Anybody who needs to be on the phone and confirm appts, emails, etc with the person/client/coworker they are on the phone with is not able to do so. This is a monumental step backwards that is inexcusable with todays technology. Waiting for VOLTE is not a solution, as the time frame on this is not guaranteed.
Please consider my suggestion for the default dialer app. Google already has it functional in the Hangouts Dialer app, so there is no reason it can't be done.
Thanks!

zl123 said:
This is for the S5, but I assume it would work on the galaxy note 4 and all other devices with this issue.
Hi all, I wanted to let you know that there is a very easy work around for this limitation. It is supplied by Google Inc through the Hangouts Dialer app. I'm not sure whether or not you need Hangouts installed to use it, but it allows you to make calls via the data network and still use the network to browse the web, etc. I have tried it several times at home with WiFi off and it works flawlessly so far.
It's sad that Sprint didn't find a way to bypass this limitation on their own, or at least inform customers, but this is an easy and seamless solution by Google.
I put the icon right next to my default phone icon for future use.
Additionally, I can not believe that Sprint is not aware of this work around. I spoke to a few different representatives today, and none were able to offer a solution.
I found this on my own searching the play store. Hope this helps!!
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I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.

Ramer said:
I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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Ramer,
Thank you for responding to my post. I need to point out that you have two apps confused. As above, the app is not "Hangouts". It is "Hangouts Dialer". This is a dialer app. It can call landlines, cell phones, etc. No need for call to go to somebody who is also using Hangouts.
Please install the "Hangouts Dialer" app, turn off your WiFi, call a landline with the app, and then see if you can surf. I have had no issues with it so far.
Please let me know!

zl123 said:
Ramer,
Thank you for responding to my post. I need to point out that you have two apps confused. As above, the app is not "Hangouts". It is "Hangouts Dialer". This is a dialer app. It can call landlines, cell phones, etc. No need for call to go to somebody who is also using Hangouts.
Please install the "Hangouts Dialer" app, turn off your WiFi, call a landline with the app, and then see if you can surf. I have had no issues with it so far.
Please let me know!
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I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.

Ramer said:
I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.
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If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!

Ramer said:
I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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Ramer said:
I did download and install Hangouts Dialer. Turned off Wifi. When I called my other phone, it worked as you stated. When I called a contact that was not on Hangouts, I get a pop-up that that person is not on Hangouts, do you want to send them an SMS?. Try calling a number (like a business) and see what you get.
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Ramer,
I have called several businesses this way and have had no issues. The post above by zune70 does suggest linking your number to google voice. I don't recall doing that, but maybe I did. Maybe you can try that and see if it works?

zune70 said:
If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!
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zl123 said:
Ramer,
I have called several businesses this way and have had no issues. The post above by zune70 does suggest linking your number to google voice. I don't recall doing that, but maybe I did. Maybe you can try that and see if it works?
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Having a google voice number probably is the key, I let my number get cancelled after years of non-use. No biggie, was just testing this out.

zune70 said:
If you link up your phone number to Google Voice and than use make a call from Hangout Dialer than you can make phone calls regardless if they have hangouts app or not!
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How do you link your number to Google Voice? I don't recall doing this and can't find how to do it.

zl123 said:
How do you link your number to Google Voice? I don't recall doing this and can't find how to do it.
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Go and type google voice on google and log on to the website with your Google account. There should be an option to add a Google voice number. Click on the one that says use your existing number and type in your number. It should detect that it's a sprint number and continue to the next step to enable google voice on your phone. If you don't want google voice on your phone anymore just go back to he website and disable your number from Google voice. You can always reactivate it at any time you want
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Tried this with the hangouts dialer app and Wi-Fi turned off calling a non hangouts phone number (my work phone). It does work, call and internet at the same time but for me it was very laggy, but does in fact work so good find

evoer said:
Tried this with the hangouts dialer app and Wi-Fi turned off calling a non hangouts phone number (my work phone). It does work, call and internet at the same time but for me it was very laggy, but does in fact work so good find
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Evoer,
Glad this worked for you! Stinks that you were having lag issues, I guess I've been pretty lucky!

Ramer said:
I decided to try this out, since you've been posting the same info in multiple threads. It works, but it's flawed. This ONLY works if you're calling someone who is also using Google Hangouts. (If they aren't, you're prompted to send them an SMS. The reason that we can't make simultaneous voice and data is a limitation of CDMA. Until Sprint updates to VoLTE, it's something Sprint users have dealt with since the first smart phone.
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I called Capital one and surfed it works

Thx for the info this seems to work if your placing the call, question, is there away to talk and surf if your not the one placing the call?

I didn't read the entire thread.. My vzw S3 could have LTE and voice simultaneously. The S5 has a modified modem to disconnect 3G/LTE when sms/voice radio activates for battery saving. Annoying when downloading GB files!

[Q] video call icon not have please help

When i go call setting there are not video call setting end dialpad have not video call icon please help my device is n915t model

N915t is Tmobile we do not have video calling

Yea I never seen the video call icons on tmobile builds.
But you can use Google hangout.

hiow can i do go back video calling my dialpad. any isea?
deeznutz1977 said:
N915t is Tmobile we do not have video calling
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hiow can i do go back video calling my dialpad. any isea

yucelyucel said:
hiow can i do go back video calling my dialpad. any isea
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Stock does not have one, I suggest reading this article
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/android_video_calling
May help you figure it out. You are using a US sourced phone, you have to expect US based software on the phone, and since using video calling on the phone would require different (international) software it probably can't be done now, or maybe ever.

i ise t mobile n915t. can i install different n915g rom.
i ise t mobile n915t. can i install different n915g rom

You can try but I would not recommend it.

Made The Switch From Verizon to T-mobile...

I just switched from the Note 4 on Verizon to the Note 5 on T-mobile; New phone expected to arrive tomorrow.
One thing I saw mentioned here and there about the T-mobile Service is this "Advanced Messaging Service." There is limited information I could find, no real Videos demoing or discussing the feature, but a couple blog post here and there making mention of it.
Has anyone used this feature on the Note 5; If so, how does it function, does it function well, is there any lag between sending and receiving messages, does the Live Presence indication actually work ("Bob is typing" etc.) Any kind of information or feedback on this "Feature" would be appreciated.
Also what is your experience with the WiFi calling? Does it truly sound like HD Voice quality? Any issue switching for WiFi calling to 4G (walking out of the home does the call drop when switching to 4G coverage?)

Only thing I know about advanced messaging service is that you can send files to anyone with a newer samsung phone under 1GB if you register for the service, the T3 Note 4 has the same service. It would be good to send higher quality videos or files to another person
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UberSlackr said:
I just switched from the Note 4 on Verizon to the Note 5 on T-mobile; New phone expected to arrive tomorrow.
One thing I saw mentioned here and there about the T-mobile Service is this "Advanced Messaging Service." There is limited information I could find, no real Videos demoing or discussing the feature, but a couple blog post here and there making mention of it.
Has anyone used this feature on the Note 5; If so, how does it function, does it function well, is there any lag between sending and receiving messages, does the Live Presence indication actually work ("Bob is typing" etc.) Any kind of information or feedback on this "Feature" would be appreciated.
Also what is your experience with the WiFi calling? Does it truly sound like HD Voice quality? Any issue switching for WiFi calling to 4G (walking out of the home does the call drop when switching to 4G coverage?)
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My experience with "Advanced Messaging" Has been terrible. Extreme lag when pulling up the keyboard and trying to type. Lag from when hit send to when message is sent.
It is so bad I will not use the stock messaging app. with advanced messaging turned on.
I can tell you that when the other party is typing you see three or 4 dots in motion - a bit like hangouts indicates the other person is typing.
I don't have any experience to date with WiFi calling.

Not sure if "advance messaging" and Samsung's "simple sharing" are the same, but I will vouch that simple sharing is a feature worth jumping to the note 5 from almost any phone! To be able to send files such as HQ video and photos seamlessly from an sms is crazy nice. If I'm not mistaken, tmobile's advance messaging does not allow large files. One new feature of it is allowing the sender to be notified in real time when the recipient opens or receives the sms successfully!
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DangerousDave said:
My experience with "Advanced Messaging" Has been terrible. Extreme lag when pulling up the keyboard and trying to type. Lag from when hit send to when message is sent.
It is so bad I will not use the stock messaging app. with advanced messaging turned on.
I can tell you that when the other party is typing you see three or 4 dots in motion - a bit like hangouts indicates the other person is typing.
I don't have any experience to date with WiFi calling.
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Where did you find the option to turn on "Advanced Messaging?"
Is it within the settings of the default samsung message app?

I haven't had any trouble with it. I personally like the baked in Video Calling though. The XXXXXXX is typing works perfect for me. No lag with the keyboard as mentioned above (we all use swiftkey though). Picture messaging is cool too. You see a blurred image coming through until it finishes downloading.

I've never gotten Advanced Messaging to work. Stock SMS apps would sometimes not receive group MMS so I have to use 3rd party app.
Wifi-Calling has been great. It works well with HD voice same quality as VoLTE on phones that support it.

UberSlackr said:
Where did you find the option to turn on "Advanced Messaging?"
Is it within the settings of the default samsung message app?
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If I remember correctly you don't have to do anything to turn advanced messaging on it's just part of the stock messaging app.
The key is in order for it to work you have to be messaging with another device that has advanced messaging as well.

Video dialing

One of the cool features of the newest Samsung devices is video dialing. I haven't been able to get it worrying but recently realized it as because I had VOLTE tuned off in the dialer settings. Turn that feature to on and boom Video Dialing...here is the link to Tmo: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-23590

It's weird, I have all the right settings on..but people I know who have s6,7 won't show as available to video call
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I have video calling enabled (volte) and I'm on T-mobile. My gf has hers setup and she's on AT&T....guess what? we can't video call each other. how f***ing cool is that?...such a pos feature. *angry face*

No Incoming SMS or MMS on Verizon

Hey OnePlus fam,
I just thought I would put this out as PSA for anyone on Verizon and having issues with SMS or MMS, as there is little information out there on this for our specific phones.
If you are unable to send or receive any text messages it is most like that the "CDMA-Less" feature needs to be activated.
You can call Verizon and ask them to enable "CDMA-Less" to your account.
Hope this helps

I had to get a new sim card that fixed my problem

Here are also a few links too; the first two are for a 6T but to concept still applies.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/no-incoming-sms-or-mms-on-verizon.935610/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/verizon-text-messages.937506/
VZW information
https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/faqs?s=LTE

Had the same issue.
Called Verizon and asked them to enable this device as CDMA-less.
Been working perfect since.

Same here. I inserted my Verizon sim in the international version. Data at 50Mbps, Voice, Visual Voicemail and outgoing text messages worked. If it doesn't work for you, make sure you are using slot 1. It may matter. If you have a very old sim, you might need a new one.
I called Verizon and carefully explained that incoming sms was not functional as this was a next generation phone for a world where Verizon turns off their CDMA at the end of 2019 and SMS is routed over LTE. I instructed him to make sure "CDMA-less" was available both in the billing account and the network account. After a bit of digging he found the provisioning settings. Seconds after the phone was provisioned, sms started flooding in the stock message app. Also make sure IMS Basic Visual Voicemail is on your account if VM is giving you trouble. I use VZW Message+ (Verizon Messages) for sms as I can text from a PC also and it will restore previous sms.
By definition the phone uses VOLTE so there is no setting for HD Voice in the phone. That feature is required on your Verizon account but you would have to be switching from an ancient phone not to already have that. I cannot locate any option for Wifi calling and it does not work in airplane mode. I have a google voice number which allows Wifi calling. Interestingly it errors when the phone is in airplane mode but works when cell service is on. It reports "Wifi Call" and appears to use the stock dialer when initiated from the Voice app. Somehow Voice is even more tightly integrated with the stock dialer now than just trapping and routing international calls. This is a bug of sorts as my Moto phone on 8.0 could call in airplane mode with wifi on.
Google Duo appears to be integrated in the dialer but I haven't tried with my wife's Pixel to see if I can switch to Duo while on a regular voice call.
Bootloader unlock was simple: Tap Build # 6x, Developer Options - OEM unlocking, adb reboot recovery, fastboot oem unlock [This erases the phone]
The 7 Pro is an amazing device! Truly the most amazing. I'm really excited. The phone is super super slippery and a drop magnet. It does come with a TPU case.
I'm going to sell my kid's mint 5T and upgrade him too!
BT sucks worse than the Moto phone but I think that is an Android thing as my wife's pixel as issues to with her car. Contacts not syncing and calls not going through while connected to BT. Just have to do work arounds when I have some time.
Hoping video is fixed for the wide camera. They are amazing; but then, I'm coming from a Moto phone which has the worst cameras. Sony knows what they are doing.

Sorry to wake an old thread but did not want to start a new one.
I have verizon and have cdma-less provisioning done already. Have HD voice on the account as well. SMS works fine but I can only send MMS not receive them.
Ive tried moving sim card to other slot, tried reboot, tried factory reset, tried different apps...nothing.
The only time MMS fully works is when I am in safe mode. Anyone have any ideas on what it could be?
Thank you

Try looking in permissions at what app has permissions.
Try the Verizon message plus app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs

larsdennert said:
Try looking in permissions at what app has permissions.
Try the Verizon message plus app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
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Permissions were all good, sms/mms permission is in one.
I tried verizon app, MMS works, dont really like the app though, and the customization didnt help me like it enough to keep it.
Super weird that verizon messages work but not the stock app or the Mood SMS app.

morphius88 said:
Permissions were all good, sms/mms permission is in one.
I tried verizon app, MMS works, dont really like the app though, and the customization didnt help me like it enough to keep it.
Super weird that verizon messages work but not the stock app or the Mood SMS app.
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I had to call Verizon 2 or 3 times for them to get it right

I downloaded a couple other SMS apps and they all work fine. So leads me to believe its just something weird with the stock app and with Mood SMS. I will switch to QKSMS for now and requested assistance from Mood SMS so they could take a look. Thanks all.

I'm going to guess MMS didn't work with that app while you were on wifi? Some apps don't know how to route MMS data properly when there both data and wifi available.

It's an option that has to be enabled on the account for Verizon customers, it's the cdma-less option. It took me a couple representatives til one of knew what I was talking about lol

I think his issue is slightly different as he can recieve sms but not mms and it varies on the app he's using.

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I'm going to guess MMS didn't work with that app while you were on wifi? Some apps don't know how to route MMS data properly when there both data and wifi available.
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No that I already checked. I still have not figured out why I cannot receive MMS on the stock app or on mood SMS. Mood had not replied to my email. I switched to qksms and have no issues anymore.
So ya if anyone else runs into something like I did, try different SMS apps

Yup, I learned this very quickly when I got the OnePlus 6t. Just getting them to understand that the phone was certified on VZW. Then 4 techs before one knew what to do. I think they now can address quickly even over chat.

shooterlgk said:
It's an option that has to be enabled on the account for Verizon customers, it's the cdma-less option. It took me a couple representatives til one of knew what I was talking about lol
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If I get Verizon prepaid will they be able to do this? I had Verizon prepaid once in the past and customer service was much worse than regular Verizon wireless. I am pretty sure that mvnos can't do it but I'm hoping Verizon prepaid can.

cheeto said:
If I get Verizon prepaid will they be able to do this? I had Verizon prepaid once in the past and customer service was much worse than regular Verizon wireless. I am pretty sure that mvnos can't do it but I'm hoping Verizon prepaid can.
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I'm not sure

Yeah, there's a lot more to this than enabling CDMA-less. Before about a month ago data/sms/MMS wasn't working on Android 10 based custom roms and MMS still doesn't work unless you use Messages+.

I get both fine I just have issues with them being received after the phone goes idle for a while. My issues are small stupid crap mile messenger not closing with home button all the time and and Gboard sometimes won't type into the field I'm in