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Holy mother of bloatware, batman!

NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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Wow!!!!!
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Yeah, between att and Samsung there is a bit more than average.
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Bloat will always be the first thing to go.

How do you disable those on the phone?

Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?

poker? lol

only google and samsung service application remain ,remove the others will be safe.

wow that is sad, soon we be free, carriers i **** on you

Holy crap. That's insane.
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Yeah I've got to say with the locked bootloader and all this bloat, my initial impression is not that great, unfortunately. Day to day use, the phone is not as fast as my GS3 running slim bean.
Screen and hardware are fabulous, but they really effed up the software this time around. Just went wayyyyyyy overboard. And locked bootloader? Come on now
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soritong said:
How do you disable those on the phone?
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Settings >more >application manager >all
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SysAdmNj said:
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
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So far I haven't had any problems with all of this junk disabled.
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Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
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NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.

It's more of a matter of form on AT&T's and Samsung's part.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
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familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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aleph_0 said:
Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
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Pretty sure there was less than 10gb free space before I even installed any of my own stuff.
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familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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That bloatware is what is causing the lag online reviewers have been mentioning. If you disable/remove it, the phone will have no lag at all.
I'm hopeful to see some AOSP-based ROMS so I can remove the bloat known as TouchWIZ.

aleph_0 said:
I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
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In my previous post I was referring to Samsung software.
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phositadc said:
The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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Being the best is debatable. Nevertheless if you want a pure stock experience, then you might as well get a Nexus 5 when it comes out. It will be unlocked, cheaper, and probably have better specs.

The new LG G3 allows customers to uninstall bloatware WITHOUT root!

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.

I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.

Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
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Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
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Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
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Your argument is invalid until you prove it with evidence.

Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
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The LG G3 AndroidCentral has for review is the Korean version and it is an early prototype.
Recently a law was passed in Korea which makes all bloatware pre-installed on a phone un-installable. This law is obeyed by all phone companies in Korea.
Since other countries have not taken such action against unwanted apps on phones, it is highly unlikely that Samsung or any other company will make bolatware removable in a future update.

They knocked back Kitkat for the S3 due to the bloatware in the rom needing too much RAM....I don't think they are gonna worry about people wanting to remove the bloatware, what they give you stays... Even if it means they won't update a Star phone...

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I was under the impression that it had either happened or was in the process of happening.
http://www.zdnet.com/south-korea-rules-pre-installed-phone-bloatware-must-be-deletable-7000025533/
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/24/south-korea-delete-preinstalled-android-apps/
Maybe it hasn't happened yet, but I do recall that it's been rolling out to some extent. I'll try to find a better source later.
Edit: Okay, so apparently the Korean S5 can remove some bloat.. but by the next iterations it should be happening :L
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303873604579493233990755384
I'm wrong. My bad.

Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
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http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.

Neo3D said:
http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.
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Feedback is just a feedback. They have company policy to follow. Thumb up if they can change any of their company/product policy, but so far I know seldom retailer will follow customer request.

Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
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Im sure the EU recently passed a bill that forces mobile manufactures to give end users the option to remove bloat ware? which is probably why LG has lead the way first.

if only samsung let us

Neo3d is an obsessive poster I see nothing but constant posts and threads made from the individual lol I'm like wow so much time on Ur hands
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I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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Meh! Root your device and be rid of bloat. Makes no difference to me either way.
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@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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But the best option is to allow for the software to be uninstallable.
For those who want a phone and don't delve as deep into tech as the majority of users on these forums, all the in-built software is more than enough for them. For those who want more customisations, then we get the choice of uninstalling the programs.
Best of both worlds really, plus it's not forcing us to use their crap. Heck, we're still using their phones at least!
If the LG G3 released here in HK is 32GB/3GB then I'm gonna swap my Note 3 straight away.

@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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Just buy a nexus for Stock Android
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I dont understand the disskussion about bloatware.. If you dont like it, buy another Phone or better use a 3310 Nokia ) nobody force you to buy a overbloated Phone and at least you can root and debloat it.. Even if your Phone is unrooted you can just deactivate any application
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if this news are TRUE - then WOW WOW WOW. but based on what i've read from your posts guys - it is NOW for the KOREAN brand ' correct me if i'm wrong ' - so my Q although it is kinda stupid - will it be applied on international version of G3 ?. if the answer is NO then my next Q is will the KOREAN version work in my country ?

We're using the Korean Olleh (KT) variant of the phone — LG-F400K — running pre-release software, on the EE network in the UK.
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There.

Q - how is LG's attitude towards DEVELOPERS ? is it good ?

If LG comes like this NOTE 4 will have a pre-installed app called SAMSUNG S-ROOT:laugh:

Well....the dark side has finally gotten ahold of me....Ditching the S6 for the iPhon

I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?

nateohio said:
I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.

rbeavers said:
Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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nateohio said:
It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.

Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!

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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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nateohio said:
You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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GoBears said:
Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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nateohio said:
And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.

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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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nateohio said:
Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.

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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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Bxrider117 said:
I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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GoBears said:
Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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nateohio said:
Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.

Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.

There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.

Marshmallow will get here when it gets here.

I understand the craving for an update, but it seems every week there's a new thread asking when Marshmallow will arrive. I understand the irony of this statement, but please do not make anymore threads asking when the update will be out. Those are questions better suited for your carrier (I'm sure they have forums). Threads promoting discussion about Marshmallow are okay, such as asking what you're looking forward to most, but simply asking when it's going to be out is not making it come any faster.
While you're waiting, try flashing some of the ROMs, Kernels, and recoveries that our fantastic devs so graciously provide to us for free. @TEKHD, @jovy23, @foreverloco, @dr.ketan, @arter97, and @UpInTheAir (If I've forgotten anyone, I apologize) have all done amazing work for our device on the current version of Android. Take this time to test out their ROMs/kernels and if you get bored, flash another one. Explore all the settings and options. There is a lot you can do with what you've been given here.
Sorry. Rant over.

Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Although I am currently on the latest ROM and kernel from @TEKHD and @UpInTheAir, I was stock for the first 5 months of owning the Note 5. It runs more than fine on 5.1.1, and for everyone complaining that the M8 or M9 are getting MM on T-Mobile before us, there's a good reason for it. HTC has released MM for the international models and Samsung hasn't yet. T-Mobile can't release what they don't have.

I am also running stock 5.1.1 with root on my N5 and it's perfectly fine with LP. I'm in no rush for the MM update. There's a chance it may bring issues along with it and I read somewhere that it would be some time in March when we can see the update. Everyone just needs to hang tight.

@NotATreoFan @tamelion1117
Well said, sirs. I'd personally prefer to wait longer if it meant that most of the bugs and issues are ironed out when it finally hits our device. A solid, smooth update that comes a tad late is better than a half-assed buggy update that comes immediately.

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@NotATreoFan @tamelion1117
Well said, sirs. I'd personally prefer to wait longer if it meant that most of the bugs and issues are ironed out when it finally hits our device. A solid, smooth update that comes a tad late is better than a half-assed buggy update that comes immediately.
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Exactly!

Akw6190 said:
I understand the craving for an update, but it seems every week there's a new thread asking when Marshmallow will arrive. I understand the irony of this statement, but please do not make anymore threads asking when the update will be out. Those are questions better suited for your carrier (I'm sure they have forums). Threads promoting discussion about Marshmallow are okay, such as asking what you're looking forward to most, but simply asking when it's going to be out is not making it come any faster.
While you're waiting, try flashing some of the ROMs, Kernels, and recoveries that our fantastic devs so graciously provide to us for free. @TEKHD, @jovy23, @foreverloco, @dr.ketan, @arter97, and @UpInTheAir (If I've forgotten anyone, I apologize) have all done amazing work for our device on the current version of Android. Take this time to test out their ROMs/kernels and if you get bored, flash another one. Explore all the settings and options. There is a lot you can do with what you've been given here.
Sorry. Rant over.
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Just what needed to be said, it may not have the new software, but I love my Note 5 just the way it is, and when Marshmallow comes out, it will be even better.
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People generally feel there need to want the latest and greatest, in this case, the most up to date version of Android. I personally don't think MM will add much benefit to the note 5 because 5.1.1 is already quite good. Especially when you compare it to previous versions on tw.
If you want mm so badly, simply sell your note 5 and buy a nexus 6p. ;p it's crossed my mind a few times.

I was just thinking about this. As soon as an upgrade is pending many people all of a sudden seem to be unhappy with the phone until they get it.
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tommason1968 said:
I was just thinking about this. As soon as an upgrade is pending many people all of a sudden seem to be unhappy with the phone until they get it.
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Word. Nevermind that 5.1.1 runs like a bandit on the Note 5. Doze and permission control will be nice, but Samsung implemented the app optimization feature and the ROM I'm running right now has permission control as well. I'm not sure what else people want.
I'm sure the same people crying for the update will also be the ones to pin point and complain about every minor bug like it's some experience-breaking issue.

Just wait until it arrives and 37 threads pop up from sub 50 post users all notifying us of the update. Just trying to boost their thanks/post count and acting like little kiddies. I remember the note 4 general thread when an update dropped.

Anyone that is getting ansy for the MM update should read up on the 5.0 lollipop update on the Moto X 2014, my previous phone. Was one of the first to get the update, and so it had all the bugs. Didn't ever get totally sorted out, although 5.1 made it much better.

It could be around the corner:
"Samsung Galaxy Note 5 - February 2016"
Sammy is working on it, which means we'll likely see it late in the summer...ish.
Source: http://bgr.com/2016/01/25/galaxy-s6-note-5-android-6-0-update/

I like the thread where the OP asks if anyone has received the update yet.
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It looks like the AT&T Note5 has a beta test that just went live today, not many testers but someone that is on XDA got it, might be some kind of beta firmware floating around in the not too distant future. Also good news that Samsung is getting that far on any carrier, might have something for Tmo in the not so distant future.

enochpc said:
It looks like the AT&T Note5 has a beta test that just went live today, not many testers but someone that is on XDA got it, might be some kind of beta firmware floating around in the not too distant future. Also good news that Samsung is getting that far on any carrier, might have something for Tmo in the not so distant future.
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Take this with a *HUGE* grain of salt, but I would suspect they're testing MM on AT&T because they're the largest GSM carrier in the US, and they also love to modify the builds more than T-Mobile does.

I doubt we'll see mm until the gs7 arrives
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Texus915 said:
I doubt we'll see mm until the gs7 arrives
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Yeah that sounds about right.

Texus915 said:
I doubt we'll see mm until the gs7 arrives
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Agreed.

Let me stoke the fire a bit lol i just got a message that tmo visual voice-mail was updated to support marshmallow.
I shouldn't say "message"...was an ok box in the app
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Rx8Driver said:
Let me stoke the fire a bit lol i just got a message that tmo visual voice-mail was updated to support marshmallow.
I shouldn't say "message"...was an ok box in the app
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Well that's a good sign I guess.
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Why Isn't 6.0 TW Ported to Kltevzw?

So from my understanding, the primary bootloader chooses which firmwares will run. Verizon hasn't released 6.0 for the GS5, so our bootloaders don't allow it. But, why can we run things like CM13? Would it be possible to run N at some point?

gmerdude said:
Why would you want tw?
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Some people myself included actually like Touchwiz shocking right? I have a Gear S that won't connect unless I use a Touchwiz rom

I don't. I'm just curious. Didn't really understand why it's so hard to do.

camcorder123 said:
I don't. I'm just curious. Didn't really understand why it's so hard to do.
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Vz will release it eventually, there's no reason to port it from elsewhere.

ldeveraux said:
Vz will release it eventually, there's no reason to port it from elsewhere.
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But the wait time is downright awful and how could VZW not even release 5.1.1 which fixed a lot of 5.0's problems.... A developer recently said he is going to try to port the Sprint 6.0.1 S5 update to our VZW's I imagine it can't be extremely difficult but who knows as I'm not a developer.

Because all Verizon cares about is trying to lock us down with all the stupid security updates I bet they are trolling these forums and that's why they keep pushing out their garbage
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gmerdude said:
Why would you want tw?
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I use my camera on my phone, a lot. The quality difference is outrageous and is the only thing keeping me using TW.