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Skype 2 video available

The latest Skype update for Android is available to everyone, but it only enables video chat on four specific handsets. Fortunately, impatient modders have gone some way to correcting this profound injustice, by creating APKs that activate video calling on other handsets too. So far we've heard of successful ports on the Samsung Galaxy S II and the HTC Sensation, Thunderbolt and EVO 4G. If you've got some other handset with Android 2.3, a little experimentation with the APK might also be worth your while. However, we just tried it on an Xperia Arc and didn't get very far: the app ran, but efforts to communicate with an Xperia Neo resulted in one-way video, a locked landscape mode and plenty of awkwardness. Let us know if you fare better -- you'll find a Thunderbolt-specific download at the DroidLife source link, and a more general APK at TechPetals.
http://blogs.skype.com/en/2011/06/smile_skype_for_android_with_v.html
Figured I would drop this in here if anyone has some know how and wants to look into it to see if there is anyway for us to have this on our phone. Doubt it though considering it requires 2.3 which seems to be the standard for google video chat and stuff, but hey, its worth a shot!!!
Found some more info. Tested and still didn't work but apparently on our device but confirmed on the SGS2. Here is the link for the guy who got it working.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/4849-Skype-with-Video-Support-for-Various-Devices...?p=42265#post42265
Im not familiar with knowing the ins and outs of editing an apk but this might be a start for someone who does

Probably requires GB.... I would think

yep. the official requires gb and in the list of device check. with device check removed, almost all with gingerbread can use it.

man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.

skillz9669 said:
man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.
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I know. WTF on that?

the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!

skillz9669 said:
the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!
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Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL

bella92108 said:
Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.

skillz9669 said:
I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.
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I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it

bella92108 said:
I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it
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hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance

Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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I personally have seen no change since installing it, as for the wifi thing are you rooted and running any rom of sort of just stock? I have seen some wifi issues with the roms. Don't know if maybe the app sparked the problem or what but maybe you can backup your apps and reinstall. Good luck

bella92108 said:
Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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The only true advantage that Apple has over Android is that they only more or less support one device. Android is spread amongst how many different devices? It's easy to put out lackluster updates to a single device, but putting out updates to 20+ different devices isn't so easy.

how are you guys even getting it to install? is it actually working?

yes please, can any one confirm that the video call on Skype is working on the infuse?
regards

no it is not working. installing the custom apk does give you the video call option, but if you press it, it goes into landscape to prepare for video call and then it does nothing. gingerbread is needed since it uses the frontfacing camera api.

cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.

skillz9669 said:
hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance
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Click "Thread Tools" at the top of the thread. Choose subscribe thread. Choose your poison.
That should set you up so you get notified.

Snehanshu said:
Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.
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Have you tried Stop Skype from Market?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153285
apparently theres been some success with modding skype for froyo. anybody want to try out some of these builds?

Best OTA Update Ever!

Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.

invizo said:
Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.
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actually more ram use might mean its caching better. Android memory management is a strange thing. I used to use a task killer to "free up" more memory on my old phone but that actually made it slower.

cybershawngates said:
actually more ram use might mean its caching better. Android memory management is a strange thing. I used to use a task killer to "free up" more memory on my old phone but that actually made it slower.
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Thank you for beating me to the punch.
In Linux, and for that matter, all modern operating systems, more RAM used is better. Unused RAM = wasted RAM.
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I noticed the huge drop in RAM use as well, pretty nice.
Brings it more in line with my SGS3 on boot, so it makes a little more sense.
So far, significantly snappier.
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Shammyh said:
Thank you for beating me to the punch.
In Linux, and for that matter, all modern operating systems, more RAM used is better. Unused RAM = wasted RAM.
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I don't think it's as black and white as you make it sound. This is a HUGE debate and I'm currently on the side that available RAM = better performance.

snakecharmer23 said:
I don't think it's as black and white as you make it sound. This is a HUGE debate and I'm currently on the side that available RAM = better performance.
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I think there is a gray area where the system should cache some of our apps. But not fill the whole damn thing up! But not cache anything at all either.
There should be a middle ground and Samsung should just run some performance test and see where we get the best response times. I really don't get how they do their testing.

invizo said:
Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.
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Let's not get too carried away - first, if this were "the best update ever," it would have included an unlocked bootloader, and since it did not, it IS not the best ever.... second, there certain is a disadvantage to updating right now, it has not been confirmed or denied that this update has in fact patched the exploit Dan "THE MAN" has created, and to quote him directly:
djrbliss said:
Is it safe to install OTA updates?
If you are interested in taking advantage of this release, it is recommended that you avoid installing OTA updates until it is published. Please be aware that refraining from installing updates may prevent you from receiving security and stability fixes for your device, and consider whether this is a risk you are willing to accept.
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So it's not the best thing to tell people who aren't familiar with this stuff to update away - yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Let's not get too carried away - first, if this were "the best update ever," it would have included an unlocked bootloader, and since it did not, it IS not the best ever.... second, there certain is a disadvantage to updating right now, it has not been confirmed or denied that this update has in fact patched the exploit Dan "THE MAN" has created, and to quote him directly:
So it's not the best thing to tell people who aren't familiar with this stuff to update away - yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off
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I thought he referenced the exploit being hw related? correct me if i'm wrong. but if i'm right, an update can't patch that

mcmb03 said:
I thought he referenced the exploit being hw related? correct me if i'm wrong. but if i'm right, an update can't patch that
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Then why are we waiting for the Verizon model to drop? If they've already produced millions of them, just packing them up and shipping them out, why are we waiting? Not being arrogant, just trying to ask the obvious question here

In another post task650 (an awesome developer) did the update and then reverted using odin.
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aboot appears identical in function to original, I foresee no problem flashing this (but I do not know the details of dan's unlock). More than likely, since we know a couple variants of the bootloaderse are around, it is just bringing everyone inline to the exact same firmware.
Moved to appropriate forum
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scrosler said:
Task650 just reported that you can Odin back to shipped firmware.
So if this does really break unlock then we can just odin back...
Im gonna take the plunge... I got insurance :silly:
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KryptosXLayer2 said:
....yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released....
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raqball said:
In another post task650 (an awesome developer) did the update and then reverted using odin.
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that was a direct copy of what Task said, couldn't have said it better myself, so I copied it and emphasized CAN so everyone would see it...... sorry you missed it!

Unless they intentionally blew a Qfuse.
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Not getting the gloom and doom or the attempt to terrify people about the update..
If developers are saying they can revert back to the stock version that Dan cracked then why the utter fear?
Oh well... To each their own I suppose...

KryptosXLayer2 said:
....and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off
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ExBrasil said:
Unless they intentionally blew a Qfuse.
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I should have re-quoted the REST of my original quote too, since no one is trying to read anything I've said so far........
raqball said:
Not getting the gloom and doom or the attempt to terrify people about the update..
If developers are saying they can revert back to the stock version that Dan cracked then why the utter fear?
Oh well... To each their own I suppose...
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Eh, not "doom and gloom" (I think that's the way the phrase is supposed to go), but I don't have ANY lag and I'm not as interested in upgrading, downgrading, unlocking bootloader, and then doing my thing.... just saving a step for the future since I don't NEED the update right now, honestly

What pisses me off is the speed of the camera is sooooooooooooo slow

jetlitheone said:
What pisses me off is the speed of the camera is sooooooooooooo slow
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My camera seems to be much faster and auto-focus is much better after the update

KryptosXLayer2 said:
I should have re-quoted the REST of my original quote too, since no one is trying to read anything I've said so far........
Eh, not "doom and gloom" (I think that's the way the phrase is supposed to go), but I don't have ANY lag and I'm not as interested in upgrading, downgrading, unlocking bootloader, and then doing my thing.... just saving a step for the future since I don't NEED the update right now, honestly
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Since I updated to the latest ota, this is reason alone for me to want to return the device

I have to admit. I hated this phone before the update I received late last night. It was the first galaxy out of the 4 that I've already had that I hated. The ota improved things 100 percent! The phone is now smooth and works well with 0 lag.
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Here is the change log. No Speed improvements were made...
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB419415&cv=820#fbid=3E2Shq0DdiJ

hyelton said:
Here is the change log. No Speed improvements were made...
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB419415&cv=820#fbid=3E2Shq0DdiJ
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Everyones usage says otherwise. They probably don't want to admit there was ever a problem in the first place.

The new LG G3 allows customers to uninstall bloatware WITHOUT root!

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.

I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.

Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
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Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
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DrawnToLife said:
Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
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Your argument is invalid until you prove it with evidence.

Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
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The LG G3 AndroidCentral has for review is the Korean version and it is an early prototype.
Recently a law was passed in Korea which makes all bloatware pre-installed on a phone un-installable. This law is obeyed by all phone companies in Korea.
Since other countries have not taken such action against unwanted apps on phones, it is highly unlikely that Samsung or any other company will make bolatware removable in a future update.

They knocked back Kitkat for the S3 due to the bloatware in the rom needing too much RAM....I don't think they are gonna worry about people wanting to remove the bloatware, what they give you stays... Even if it means they won't update a Star phone...

Someguyfromhell said:
Your argument is invalid until you prove it with evidence.
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I was under the impression that it had either happened or was in the process of happening.
http://www.zdnet.com/south-korea-rules-pre-installed-phone-bloatware-must-be-deletable-7000025533/
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/24/south-korea-delete-preinstalled-android-apps/
Maybe it hasn't happened yet, but I do recall that it's been rolling out to some extent. I'll try to find a better source later.
Edit: Okay, so apparently the Korean S5 can remove some bloat.. but by the next iterations it should be happening :L
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303873604579493233990755384
I'm wrong. My bad.

Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
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http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.

Neo3D said:
http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.
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Feedback is just a feedback. They have company policy to follow. Thumb up if they can change any of their company/product policy, but so far I know seldom retailer will follow customer request.

Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
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Im sure the EU recently passed a bill that forces mobile manufactures to give end users the option to remove bloat ware? which is probably why LG has lead the way first.

if only samsung let us

Neo3d is an obsessive poster I see nothing but constant posts and threads made from the individual lol I'm like wow so much time on Ur hands
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I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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Meh! Root your device and be rid of bloat. Makes no difference to me either way.
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@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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But the best option is to allow for the software to be uninstallable.
For those who want a phone and don't delve as deep into tech as the majority of users on these forums, all the in-built software is more than enough for them. For those who want more customisations, then we get the choice of uninstalling the programs.
Best of both worlds really, plus it's not forcing us to use their crap. Heck, we're still using their phones at least!
If the LG G3 released here in HK is 32GB/3GB then I'm gonna swap my Note 3 straight away.

@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
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Just buy a nexus for Stock Android
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I dont understand the disskussion about bloatware.. If you dont like it, buy another Phone or better use a 3310 Nokia ) nobody force you to buy a overbloated Phone and at least you can root and debloat it.. Even if your Phone is unrooted you can just deactivate any application
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if this news are TRUE - then WOW WOW WOW. but based on what i've read from your posts guys - it is NOW for the KOREAN brand ' correct me if i'm wrong ' - so my Q although it is kinda stupid - will it be applied on international version of G3 ?. if the answer is NO then my next Q is will the KOREAN version work in my country ?

We're using the Korean Olleh (KT) variant of the phone — LG-F400K — running pre-release software, on the EE network in the UK.
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There.

Q - how is LG's attitude towards DEVELOPERS ? is it good ?

If LG comes like this NOTE 4 will have a pre-installed app called SAMSUNG S-ROOT:laugh:

Well....the dark side has finally gotten ahold of me....Ditching the S6 for the iPhon

I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?

nateohio said:
I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.

rbeavers said:
Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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nateohio said:
It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.

Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!

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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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nateohio said:
You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.

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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.

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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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Bxrider117 said:
I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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nateohio said:
Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.

Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.

There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.

Samsung Agent blah[Marshmallow]

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What exactly did you expect them to tell you?

PDXMatt said:
What exactly did you expect them to tell you?
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Same as always
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A better question why people are obsessed to have the latest android on the phone? Who cares which ANDROID version is running when most people are using third party software anyway. Every Android upgrade brings more and more restrictions. From my experience, I can't tell much difference between 4.x and 5.x android except the restrictions which prevents some of my apps from working properly, such as tasker, avast anti theft and etc. What do you expect to see in marshmallow and you can't see in Kit Kat with TW. Don't forget that most of the stuff you see in Note 5 is TW apps and are not native android apps except Dialer

Almazick said:
A better question why people are obsessed to have the latest android on the phone? Who cares which ANDROID version is running when most people are using third party software anyway. Every Android upgrade brings more and more restrictions. From my experience, I can't tell much difference between 4.x and 5.x android except the restrictions which prevents some of my apps from working properly, such as tasker, avast anti theft and etc. What do you expect to see in marshmallow and you can't see in Kit Kat with TW. Don't forget that most of the stuff you see in Note 5 is TW apps and are not native android apps except Dialer
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I've never understood the obsession either. I have an international M9 that has Marshmallow and frankly, it's virtually the same phone as it was with Lollipop. Marshmallow or not, I love my Note5. Marshmallow will come when it comes. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

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I've never understood the obsession either. I have an international M9 that has Marshmallow and frankly, it's virtually the same phone as it was with Lollipop. Marshmallow or not, I love my Note5. Marshmallow will come when it comes. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
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Almazick said:
A better question why people are obsessed to have the latest android on the phone? Who cares which ANDROID version is running when most people are using third party software anyway. Every Android upgrade brings more and more restrictions. From my experience, I can't tell much difference between 4.x and 5.x android except the restrictions which prevents some of my apps from working properly, such as tasker, avast anti theft and etc. What do you expect to see in marshmallow and you can't see in Kit Kat with TW. Don't forget that most of the stuff you see in Note 5 is TW apps and are not native android apps except Dialer
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I understand your point thnks
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Just do this. How messed up would it be if we had a locked bootloader?
They suck, but look at att and sprint forums.
It's a war and about $. But, I still love t-mobile.
What phone could we switch to and be happy? Those Google phones suck. What's an iPhone?

10-K said:
Just do this. How messed up would it be if we had a locked bootloader?
They suck, but look at att and sprint forums.
It's a war and about $. But, I still love t-mobile.
What phone could we switch to and be happy? Those Google phones suck. What's an iPhone?
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I am using teks rom took
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I hope you did not create this thread (dont know why really) just to gain sympathy since it does not shed any extra light or truly help out in any fashion. Sorry guys its not here and I am sure there is a good reason for it. But its not like we need to know. Your device is not rendered useless without Marshmallow so again the point is?
Sorry not trying to bash or berate anyone just think maybe the other half dozen threads asking and receiving the same treatment would be enough for some of you to realize its not that important....
I mean for crying out loud there are more important things like protecting Beyonce from the mean people saying she is a Black Panther.
peace out people

playya said:
I hope you did not create this thread (dont know why really) just to gain sympathy since it does not shed any extra light or truly help out in any fashion. Sorry guys its not here and I am sure there is a good reason for it. But its not like we need to know. Your device is not rendered useless without Marshmallow so again the point is?
Sorry not trying to bash or berate anyone just think maybe the other half dozen threads asking and receiving the same treatment would be enough for some of you to realize its not that important....
I mean for crying out loud there are more important things like protecting Beyonce from the mean people saying she is a Black Panther.
peace out people
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That last part about Beyonce...PRICELESS!

No wonder xda is like it is
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JonathanRAZ said:
No wonder xda is like it is
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And that is?

PDXMatt said:
And that is?
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My guess is typical millennial kiddie posted a useless thread, gets called out, and rages about the forum or something. Mod delete.

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