Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.
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Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.
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actually more ram use might mean its caching better. Android memory management is a strange thing. I used to use a task killer to "free up" more memory on my old phone but that actually made it slower.
cybershawngates said:
actually more ram use might mean its caching better. Android memory management is a strange thing. I used to use a task killer to "free up" more memory on my old phone but that actually made it slower.
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Thank you for beating me to the punch.
In Linux, and for that matter, all modern operating systems, more RAM used is better. Unused RAM = wasted RAM.
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I noticed the huge drop in RAM use as well, pretty nice.
Brings it more in line with my SGS3 on boot, so it makes a little more sense.
So far, significantly snappier.
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Thank you for beating me to the punch.
In Linux, and for that matter, all modern operating systems, more RAM used is better. Unused RAM = wasted RAM.
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I don't think it's as black and white as you make it sound. This is a HUGE debate and I'm currently on the side that available RAM = better performance.
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I don't think it's as black and white as you make it sound. This is a HUGE debate and I'm currently on the side that available RAM = better performance.
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I think there is a gray area where the system should cache some of our apps. But not fill the whole damn thing up! But not cache anything at all either.
There should be a middle ground and Samsung should just run some performance test and see where we get the best response times. I really don't get how they do their testing.
invizo said:
Sweet update. I always ran 1.5gigs+ of RAM and have noticed the occasional lag spikes this phone has (especially with live wallpapers), this update brought me down to 750mb of RAM. I'm hearing you can re-root after so there really is no disadvantage to this update.
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Let's not get too carried away - first, if this were "the best update ever," it would have included an unlocked bootloader, and since it did not, it IS not the best ever.... second, there certain is a disadvantage to updating right now, it has not been confirmed or denied that this update has in fact patched the exploit Dan "THE MAN" has created, and to quote him directly:
djrbliss said:
Is it safe to install OTA updates?
If you are interested in taking advantage of this release, it is recommended that you avoid installing OTA updates until it is published. Please be aware that refraining from installing updates may prevent you from receiving security and stability fixes for your device, and consider whether this is a risk you are willing to accept.
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So it's not the best thing to tell people who aren't familiar with this stuff to update away - yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off
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Let's not get too carried away - first, if this were "the best update ever," it would have included an unlocked bootloader, and since it did not, it IS not the best ever.... second, there certain is a disadvantage to updating right now, it has not been confirmed or denied that this update has in fact patched the exploit Dan "THE MAN" has created, and to quote him directly:
So it's not the best thing to tell people who aren't familiar with this stuff to update away - yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off
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I thought he referenced the exploit being hw related? correct me if i'm wrong. but if i'm right, an update can't patch that
mcmb03 said:
I thought he referenced the exploit being hw related? correct me if i'm wrong. but if i'm right, an update can't patch that
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Then why are we waiting for the Verizon model to drop? If they've already produced millions of them, just packing them up and shipping them out, why are we waiting? Not being arrogant, just trying to ask the obvious question here
In another post task650 (an awesome developer) did the update and then reverted using odin.
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aboot appears identical in function to original, I foresee no problem flashing this (but I do not know the details of dan's unlock). More than likely, since we know a couple variants of the bootloaderse are around, it is just bringing everyone inline to the exact same firmware.
Moved to appropriate forum
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scrosler said:
Task650 just reported that you can Odin back to shipped firmware.
So if this does really break unlock then we can just odin back...
Im gonna take the plunge... I got insurance :silly:
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....yes, you CAN Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released....
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In another post task650 (an awesome developer) did the update and then reverted using odin.
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that was a direct copy of what Task said, couldn't have said it better myself, so I copied it and emphasized CAN so everyone would see it...... sorry you missed it!
Unless they intentionally blew a Qfuse.
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Not getting the gloom and doom or the attempt to terrify people about the update..
If developers are saying they can revert back to the stock version that Dan cracked then why the utter fear?
Oh well... To each their own I suppose...
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....and no, it did not blow any q- or e-fuses, but it still isn't recommended by our fearless bootloader unlocker, so I for one and holding off
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Unless they intentionally blew a Qfuse.
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I should have re-quoted the REST of my original quote too, since no one is trying to read anything I've said so far........
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Not getting the gloom and doom or the attempt to terrify people about the update..
If developers are saying they can revert back to the stock version that Dan cracked then why the utter fear?
Oh well... To each their own I suppose...
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Eh, not "doom and gloom" (I think that's the way the phrase is supposed to go), but I don't have ANY lag and I'm not as interested in upgrading, downgrading, unlocking bootloader, and then doing my thing.... just saving a step for the future since I don't NEED the update right now, honestly
What pisses me off is the speed of the camera is sooooooooooooo slow
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What pisses me off is the speed of the camera is sooooooooooooo slow
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My camera seems to be much faster and auto-focus is much better after the update
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I should have re-quoted the REST of my original quote too, since no one is trying to read anything I've said so far........
Eh, not "doom and gloom" (I think that's the way the phrase is supposed to go), but I don't have ANY lag and I'm not as interested in upgrading, downgrading, unlocking bootloader, and then doing my thing.... just saving a step for the future since I don't NEED the update right now, honestly
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Since I updated to the latest ota, this is reason alone for me to want to return the device
I have to admit. I hated this phone before the update I received late last night. It was the first galaxy out of the 4 that I've already had that I hated. The ota improved things 100 percent! The phone is now smooth and works well with 0 lag.
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Here is the change log. No Speed improvements were made...
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB419415&cv=820#fbid=3E2Shq0DdiJ
hyelton said:
Here is the change log. No Speed improvements were made...
http://www.att.com/esupport/softwareUpdateArticle.jsp?sid=KB419415&cv=820#fbid=3E2Shq0DdiJ
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Everyones usage says otherwise. They probably don't want to admit there was ever a problem in the first place.
Related
http://getandroidstuff.com/t-mobiles-g2-jailbreak-restriction/
this would be heartbreaking if our cappys were made this way!!
jgc121 said:
http://getandroidstuff.com/t-mobiles-g2-jailbreak-restriction/
this would be heartbreaking if our cappys were made this way!!
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That will result in fewer sales on a small percentage of users! Probably enough to make even DEV's not want to even jack with it.
Who wrote that article? Reads like it was translated from Chinese.
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Who wrote that article? Reads like it was translated from Chinese.
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Funny cause its true
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connexion2005 said:
That will result in fewer sales on a small percentage of users! Probably enough to make even DEV's not want to even jack with it.
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They did jack with it and it's now permanent rootable along with the mt4g. People like to be challenged.
From a phone
It will eventually come to all but the nexus series of phones and the geeksphone, and the XDA community will find a way to disable that chip in time.
Why post an article that holds no weight to our phone? And that phone is rooted already.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
If the phone reverts to the original software, how are they ever going to do updates?
I have a feeling that there is a way to make permanent changes. It will just take time for someone to figure it how their updates work.
DiGi760 said:
If the phone reverts to the original software, how are they ever going to do updates?
I have a feeling that there is a way to make permanent changes. It will just take time for someone to figure it how their updates work.
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that story is literally months old. they have it rooted and working custom roms already.....why is this even being posted here? OLD NEWS!
Pirateghost said:
that story is literally months old. they have it rooted and working custom roms already.....why is this even being posted here? OLD NEWS!
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OP must be living under a rock.
Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.
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Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.
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the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...
The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.
Wait... what?
T-Mobile already made their money for the people who bought the G2x. A lot of people who will jump ship will still be within they're return period in which case Tmo doesnt make any more money off that same person buying the sensation.
Of course there are those who will jump ship outside of their return period, selling their G2x themselves. In that case tmo does make a little extra cash but I doubt their counting on that. I dont think the update has anything to do with the pending G2x release.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tmo's real money maker is the monthly plans. They care not about selling this device or that device or delaying this update or that update on purpose.
GideonX said:
The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.
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According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today
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I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today
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I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release
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I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release
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More like by the end of a hour of release.
JHaste said:
the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...
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Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...
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According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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This is a total joke, right? Man, I wish there *were* Ninjas at T-Mobile...
I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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BobbyDukes707 said:
I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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Exactly this.. I wait for about a day after release for a rooted, deodexed version..
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According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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Hype likely wrong
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Erislover said:
Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...
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If you could read you would know they pulled the phone because it was selling faster then they could produce it.....reading is knowledge
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Lightning N1 said:
LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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rofl. I love it.
To me, it can make sense to wait or to just release it. They obviously have a brand new phone that needs an update. That is hurting them, money wise, more then just releasing the update.
Although you may have people hold out for the Sensation. Either way you have some people who have a G2x now, looking to buy a G2x or Sensation, and some who got pissed, sold the phone, and moved to Verizon.
I always believe to fix the problem as soon as possible. The longer it goes on the deeper the cuts.
My G2x is fantastic though on CM7. So while I may benefit from the update indirectly, I'm not sitting by watching the clock for it.
Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?
krekabl said:
Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?
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Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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That will suck.
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New update today. When it finished and it restarted, The boot animation is now diff. The clouds come up and the Thunderbolt Logo forms, but now it stays and doesn't unform itself. Looks a lot Nicer.
On top of that there is some new VZW Data Widget.
Welcome to the future.
We've been waiting for you.
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Welcome to the future.
We've been waiting for you.
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lol...So is this because I got the update late? or because I'm not rooted?
My new boot screen is sick, it says something about das BAMF...oh wait...lol. You might like the custom ROM loading screens over Verizon's...
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Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
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BBowermaster said:
Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
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technically you didnt have to root do get the fancy bootscreen the OP is talking about in advance. The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well (longer if you count the MR2 leaks that were canned).
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The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well .
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This is the situation to which I was referring. "Oh wow, my bootscreen changed" is so July 9th.
I don't mean to be snide. It's just mildly entertaining.
ANd WTF is with these political sponsorship ads getting invasive all over this site? The Republicans had no problem writing blank checks and deficit spending for ten years. Why get their panties all in a twist now, just because we have a brown President? I say, keep tech sites tech.
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This is the situation to which I was referring. "Oh wow, my bootscreen changed" is so July 9th.
I don't mean to be snide. It's just mildly entertaining.
ANd WTF is with these political sponsorship ads getting invasive all over this site? The Republicans had no problem writing blank checks and deficit spending for ten years. Why get their panties all in a twist now, just because we have a brown President? I say, keep tech sites tech.
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What ads? I dont see them
(I have the adservers added in my hosts file, it's far easier than complaining). I would normally show the ads for sites I support, but when they get to be too much, I can't deal with it. I had to sadly do same thing when Stack Overflow a while ago when they wouldn't do anything about the obviously targeted and over saturated Microsoft ads they had everywhere. It was so bad you could search for "gnu linux opensource" and it would still bomb you with microsoft bs.
Sometime after November 2012, I'll unblock them again . I would post the adserver names, but the powers that be might not like that. However, it's not hard to right click -> view source and find things.
I don't think xda controls their own adservers and thus, does not control the ad content (google/doubleclick ads and maybe some other, cant remember). That's slightly different than stack overflow, where they did control it, so one could say xda is slightly less at fault.
My girlfriends TB is non rooted. Still no update for her phone. Software update doesn't seem to do anything. Hoping she gets it soon as she is always complaining about her "piece of crap" phone.
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broons said:
My girlfriends TB is non rooted. Still no update for her phone. Software update doesn't seem to do anything. Hoping she gets it soon as she is always complaining about her "piece of crap" phone.
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It's a gradual rollout, not everyone gets it at the same time. And if she thinks the Tbolt is a POS, maybe she should exchange it for an iphone or blackberry. Or you could root it for her and slap a custom rom & kernel on it, and you wouldn't hear her ***** & moan about it anymore
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It's a gradual rollout, not everyone gets it at the same time. And if she thinks the Tbolt is a POS, maybe she should exchange it for an iphone or blackberry. Or you could root it for her and slap a custom rom & kernel on it, and you wouldn't hear her ***** & moan about it anymore
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Or you could quit waiting on verizon and just put the signed OTA from verizon on yourself. It would take like a few minutes of finding the post in the developers forum and then a few more to flash it in the bootloader.
Being on xda and waiting for an ota from verizon when the same signed ota that would work for non rooted phones is on here = sad panda
there's no way a hour's worth of reading (if you really cant figure it out) is worse than hearing her complain
I offered to root it for her, but she didn't want me to. To each their own lol. Well, tbh, the 5-6 reboots per day, plus the extreme lagginess at times just really make her mad seeing as how she paid $250 for it and its her first android phone. I can understand her anger at it, especially since whenever we talk to Verizon they just throw up their hands and say they can't do anything about, thanks for your 250 bucks.
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I offered to root it for her, but she didn't want me to. To each their own lol. Well, tbh, the 5-6 reboots per day, plus the extreme lagginess at times just really make her mad seeing as how she paid $250 for it and its her first android phone. I can understand her anger at it, especially since whenever we talk to Verizon they just throw up their hands and say they can't do anything about, thanks for your 250 bucks.
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I dont think you understood what I meant. You dont have to root her phone to give her the latest OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160286&highlight=ruu
The full RUU for upcoming Thunderbolt OTA update has been released thanks to Jcase/TeamAndIRC and Android Police. This is a Froyo release, hopefully the last one. This is for non-rooted users and will wipe all of your data. It is highly recommended that you do not flash over a rooted phone. Hold out for Jcase to release the rooted version soon. I have it available to download off my http server below and you can see the original sources below. Didn't see anyone start a thread for this yet.
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Just make sure to back up whatever you can first if you do decide to do it.
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Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
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I just wanted to say I am rooted!
yareally said:
technically you didnt have to root do get the fancy bootscreen the OP is talking about in advance. The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well (longer if you count the MR2 leaks that were canned).
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I was referring to admiralspark's comment about his DAS BAMF bootscreen. The quote function didn't work on my phone's forum app.
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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Wow!!!!!
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Yeah, between att and Samsung there is a bit more than average.
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Bloat will always be the first thing to go.
How do you disable those on the phone?
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
poker? lol
only google and samsung service application remain ,remove the others will be safe.
wow that is sad, soon we be free, carriers i **** on you
Holy crap. That's insane.
type R-blood
Yeah I've got to say with the locked bootloader and all this bloat, my initial impression is not that great, unfortunately. Day to day use, the phone is not as fast as my GS3 running slim bean.
Screen and hardware are fabulous, but they really effed up the software this time around. Just went wayyyyyyy overboard. And locked bootloader? Come on now
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soritong said:
How do you disable those on the phone?
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Settings >more >application manager >all
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SysAdmNj said:
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
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So far I haven't had any problems with all of this junk disabled.
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Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
It's more of a matter of form on AT&T's and Samsung's part.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
Typed on savaged goods.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
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Pretty sure there was less than 10gb free space before I even installed any of my own stuff.
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familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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That bloatware is what is causing the lag online reviewers have been mentioning. If you disable/remove it, the phone will have no lag at all.
I'm hopeful to see some AOSP-based ROMS so I can remove the bloat known as TouchWIZ.
aleph_0 said:
I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
Typed on savaged goods.
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In my previous post I was referring to Samsung software.
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phositadc said:
The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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Being the best is debatable. Nevertheless if you want a pure stock experience, then you might as well get a Nexus 5 when it comes out. It will be unlocked, cheaper, and probably have better specs.
The Official update page. If someone receives us tell us so we can all enjoy actually using our SD cards
I still haven't
Fun Fact: My phone was rooted but I wanted this update so I factory reset it and now it is not rooted - alternative to using ODIN So you can receive the update!
I check for updates daily and so far nothing.
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AT&T drags their feet sometimes on phone updates, no telling when you will get it
Capt said:
I check for updates daily and so far nothing.
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Ok I want to use my SD card hah!
joshuadjohnson22 said:
AT&T drags their feet sometimes on phone updates, no telling when you will get it
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I know I used to have the HTC One X that only took them a year hahha!
You guys will be refreshing for a long while. I would not expect ATT to release this for a month or two if not longer unless Samsung releases it via Kies. Plus I would wait until we confirm root and Loki works on it or you will regret you ever updated.
Plus from what I read the move to SD card is a joke it moves app but not data. Example the app for a game can be 15mb but the data it downloads can be 2gb in size. Well the 15mb would move but not the 2gb.
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You guys will be refreshing for a long while. I would not expect ATT to release this for a month or two if not longer unless Samsung releases it via Kies. Plus I would wait until we confirm root and Loki works on it or you will regret you ever updated.
Plus from what I read the move to SD card is a joke it moves app but not data. Example the app for a game can be 15mb but the data it downloads can be 2gb in size. Well the 15mb would move but not the 2gb.
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Yep. That's why I got the 32GB :laugh:
sabre31 said:
Plus from what I read the move to SD card is a joke it moves app but not data. Example the app for a game can be 15mb but the data it downloads can be 2gb in size. Well the 15mb would move but not the 2gb.
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Yeah I was looking at how the big games I have put their large extra files into data.
Advanced rooted users could move them microSD and then symlink to them, and don't need an update to do it...
I'm looking at Asphalt 7 and it is just one big 1.05GB file (is that typical?) so it would be pretty easy for those who have root and know their way around the terminal (or ROM toolbox apparently has a 'create shortcut' function).
ATT S3 still didnt get Premium Package...it's been out since november. So my guess is, you can stop refreshing the update, you birthday will pass before this update is release to you guys
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ATT S3 still didnt get Premium Package...it's been out since november. So my guess is, you can stop refreshing the update, you birthday will pass before this update is release to you guys
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I would normally agree with you about this, but the AMDL update was pushed pretty quick for this phone and Designgears already has his hands on a leak of the new firmware updatet. So I would say it might come out a little sooner than updates for other phones are released. But it's still hard to know exactly when.
For everyone else...
I'm not sure why people with AT&T S4s are checking for this OTA anyway? The only safe way to get it will be to let the DEVs check it and release it. With the I9505 update already being cooked into ROMs, I doubt there will be any further benefit to the AT&T release. Give it a little time and more DEVs will safely include it in future ROM updates if they choose to. It is their choice.
When AT&T does start to push this OTA, DO NOT INSTALL IT! Wait until the final release has been checked and cleared by the DEVs. Consider this a warning so if you install it or do not protect yourself from it auto-installing, it is your own fault! No excuses.
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I would normally agree with you about this, but the AMDL update was pushed pretty quick for this phone and Designgears already has his hands on a leak of the new firmware updatet. So I would say it might come out a little sooner than updates for other phones are released. But it's still hard to know exactly when.
For everyone else...
I'm not sure why people with AT&T S4s are checking for this OTA anyway? The only safe way to get it will be to let the DEVs check it and release it. With the I9505 update already being cooked into ROMs, I doubt there will be any further benefit to the AT&T release. Give it a little time and more DEVs will safely include it in future ROM updates if they choose to. It is their choice.
When AT&T does start to push this OTA, DO NOT INSTALL IT! Wait until the final release has been checked and cleared by the DEVs. Consider this a warning so if you install it or do not protect yourself from it auto-installing, it is your own fault! No excuses.
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Hand on a leak?
I thought he was just looking at the international update..
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I would normally agree with you about this, but the AMDL update was pushed pretty quick for this phone and Designgears already has his hands on a leak of the new firmware updatet. So I would say it might come out a little sooner than updates for other phones are released. But it's still hard to know exactly when.
For everyone else...
I'm not sure why people with AT&T S4s are checking for this OTA anyway? The only safe way to get it will be to let the DEVs check it and release it. With the I9505 update already being cooked into ROMs, I doubt there will be any further benefit to the AT&T release. Give it a little time and more DEVs will safely include it in future ROM updates if they choose to. It is their choice.
When AT&T does start to push this OTA, DO NOT INSTALL IT! Wait until the final release has been checked and cleared by the DEVs. Consider this a warning so if you install it or do not protect yourself from it auto-installing, it is your own fault! No excuses.
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By this, do you mean the Internation update? Because thats pretty much useless for us
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By this, do you mean the Internation update? Because thats pretty much useless for us
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In it's raw released form, it is useless, but Developers are already using portions of the update in their AT&T ROMs.
Example...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Again, I highly recommend you do not touch the AT&T version of the update (when it is released) until DEVs can rip out the safe parts and make them available to AT&T users. It's up to you if you want to take the chance or not.
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Yeah I was looking at how the big games I have put their large extra files into data.
Advanced rooted users could move them microSD and then symlink to them, and don't need an update to do it...
I'm looking at Asphalt 7 and it is just one big 1.05GB file (is that typical?) so it would be pretty easy for those who have root and know their way around the terminal (or ROM toolbox apparently has a 'create shortcut' function).
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You can download foldermount from the play store and have it move app data to the sdcard and remount it there. It creates the symlink automatically works very well but you have to be rooted.
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In it's raw released form, it is useless, but Developers are already using portions of the update in their AT&T ROMs.
Example...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
Again, I highly recommend you do not touch the AT&T version of the update (when it is released) until DEVs can rip out the safe parts and make them available to AT&T users. It's up to you if you want to take the chance or not.
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This. A thousand times over. If you just go around flashing any at&t ota updates, your bootloader will undoubtedly be permanently locked, and you'll probably lose root too.
If you want to be the guinea pig everyone else learns from, then go ahead, me, I'd rather wait.
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This. A thousand times over. If you just go around flashing any at&t ota updates, your bootloader will undoubtedly be permanently locked, and you'll probably lose root too.
If you want to be the guinea pig everyone else learns from, then go ahead, me, I'd rather wait.
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To be fair, people really want to put all of their apps on their SD cards, myself incluided
some_douchebag said:
To be fair, people really want to put all of their apps on their SD cards, myself incluided
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Why? How many gb's of apps do you really need or use?
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To be fair, people really want to put all of their apps on their SD cards, myself incluided
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Did you know things load faster when it's on internal memory? Then youll come up with an argument of get a high class card right. Just saying, things load faster on internal and how many Gbs do you even use for apps? Just curious
j510 said:
Did you know things load faster when it's on internal memory? Then youll come up with an argument of get a high class card right. Just saying, things load faster on internal and how many Gbs do you even use for apps? Just curious
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I was thinking of using it for like, Spotify, where the music gets download onto your device, assuming the music would then be downloaded onto my ext sd as well...using a 16gb at the moment. Oh wait, kidding, 9.whatever gb -_-
update took away bug
on MDB I had a lockscreen bug. sometimes I would swipe and the phone wouldn't recognize it. MDL fixed it.
ToastyD said:
I was thinking of using it for like, Spotify, where the music gets download onto your device, assuming the music would then be downloaded onto my ext sd as well...using a 16gb at the moment. Oh wait, kidding, 9.whatever gb -_-
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Spotify is only a couple Mb if not less. What you have to do is contact the developer of the app to include save downloads to sd if its not already available.