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front camera just awful or device defect?

I just bought the S7, and I noticed that the front camera is just bad.
It looks like the focus is off. it's so bad that it's even worst than my old S4 front camera.
here are examples:
imgur.com/a/bUcq2
the S4 are the left ones, and S7 are the right ones. at the S4, you can see each individual hair (on the eyebrows or the beard), but at the S7 everything is just blurry.
is my device defective, or it's just how the front camera functions on the S7?
I have seen many people reporting this issue, so I really wonder if returning the device and getting another one will do any good.

''so I really wonder if returning the device and getting another one will do any good.''
It won't

NeoDJW said:
''so I really wonder if returning the device and getting another one will do any good.''
It won't
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well...
I just don't get how this issue doesn't get more buzz. I mean, other people don't notice, or just don't care enough of selfies?
Also, I'm pretty sure there won't be any software fix for that - 6 months have passed since release.
So basically I bought a costly flagship phone with only rear camera- cuz the front camera is simply embarrassing, I cant use it.

There is a thread here on xda about this problem, but no one came up with a solution. Some said that models made in Vietnam (such as mine) have a bigger focus issues than those made in Korea. The problem is that focus on the front cam is set to infinity, so it doesn't focus close objects correctly. Some people went to samsung and got 3-4 new devices and all were having the same issue.
I think that it COULD be fixed with an software update, because I found people talking about it on various forums. But until that happens (I hope), try holding it 30-40cm away and it will be decent. Turn off beauty face aswell.

Severe lens flare on camera - prob. hardware related

On my small Pixel (black 128GB edition) I get severe lens flares in situations, that were never a problem for any smartphone before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz8YmHmeJ4 The video here illustrates the issue pretty well, several very well known people on YouTube + Twitter have encountered the exact same problem, including @MKBHD, @DetroitBORG and @superscientific !
I'd like to know if there are devices out there that don't have this problem. You won't see it in all lighting situations, but it's very pronounced in some - where it shouldn't be.

I have.noticed this today on my camera I attached a photo the halo or flair can be seen at the bottom the pale grey around the bottom left and right. Like you say, it's only in certain light conditions and certain angles. Must be the glass that surrounds the lense.
Looks like the the phone has been rushed out and not tested properly.

Two more photos
This is definitely a design floor as happens if the camera is on its sides, upside down and normal. Really didn't expect this from such a highly priced phone.

Some more photos from me:

I'm talking to support via the built in support. I'll let you know what they say.

I'm taking mine back to the carrier store in an hour. No way I'm going to accept this.

This is happening to me as well. Definitely a deal breaker, unless covering the glass with a case fixes the problem. It's a shame, because the camera blows everything else out of the water.

Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse

Mcyates said:
Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse
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Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.

Nitemare3219 said:
Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.
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Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.

Mcyates said:
Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/

Nitemare3219 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/
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Thanks for the lim, well I can't stop the new phone arriving so I'll just take hold of it and wait for the update.

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Nitemare3219 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/
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Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
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cc999 said:
Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
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DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.

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Nitemare3219 said:
DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.
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So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
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cc999 said:
So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
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According to Google, yes. The lens assembly is subject to very tight manufacturing tolerances. Every Pixel is going to have this issue.

Got my new phone, and as stated above I still have the flair so I'm really.imterested into what Google can actually do. I'm off to the park with my dog layer so I'll take lots of photos and upload them here if they have any flare issues.

Don't accept this. Take it back to your point of sale. Get another phone. I am so ****ing done with this.
"We completely, retardedly screwed the entire design of our phone and will now make you use a certain camera mode to mitigate (not resolve) the issue in software"
None of you should accept this.

Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.

RoccoN4 said:
Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.
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Just been to the park and took some photos only one photo out of about 50 had a halo. I believe Google will fix this.
I've added some of the photos i took today.

Blurry camera

I just want to start off by saying , YES i know there are multiple threads about the G5 and having the main camera not focus. I found that if i shook my phone, that eventually it would focus. Most people seem to fix this problem by replacing the camera. So i went ahead and bought one from ifixit, and when it arrived, the camera was DOA. They sent me another and after 1 day, the same thing happened. The phone refused to focus. So they sent me another replacement and the same thing. It wouldn't focus. They agreed to refund me. I then bought one from ebay and after installing it today, IT DOES NOT FOCUS. I have checked/cleaned the lens area , so no there are no smudges. There is 1 scratch but it does not cover the lens itself. The secondary camera has about 3-4 scratches that cover the lens, but that camera has no problem focusing. Does anyone have any ideas? I have had this phone for over a year, and apart from this issue it has been bullet proof(ignoring the screen retention problem that seem to also affect phones like the s7). I love it so much. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Not going to help much but I'm in the same boat. I can hear the camera rattling when I shake it, and with my original camera, the focus mechanism trying to to its thing. Tried a few ebay ones labeled as "New" and got ones that are pulled from old phones and won't even try to focus or simply not work at all. I would think that ifixit you wouldv'e had the best luck with and thats pretty disappointing to hear because I was hoping pony up and just go with them next. All I've heard is that you just have to keep trying until you get one that works, then be super careful with it. Kinda sucks, at least we have the wide angle though and thats what I use most of the time for actual pictures but most apps only go through the regular camera.

I am at a lost on what to do. Its so frustrating. The wide angle camera is nice, but not as a main camera. I have to zoom and crop quite a bit since I use Fb messenger(which kills quality) and the wide angle is such a hassle. I literally gave up. I'm tired of "trying" other ones. I really don't know what to do. I guess I either live with it or, sell it for cheap, then buy a s7.

Samsung galaxy note 20 Ultra Camera issues

Does anybody else notices that the foto's taken lately are not sharp anymore on their note? I think it came with the latest software updates definitely foto's have gotten worse just not sharp anymore when zooming and focus issues
I also have one brand new unboxed snapdragon version with similar results so it must be software !

Cvjetko said:
Does anybody else notices that the foto's taken lately are not sharp anymore on their note? I think it came with the latest software updates definitely foto's have gotten worse just not sharp anymore when zooming and focus issues
I also have one brand new unboxed snapdragon version with similar results so it must be software !
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I have the same problem. Autofocus are not stable, photos are not sharp.

Jesi li rijesio problem sa kamerom na note 20 ultra? I ja imam taj problem
Translated by GT: Did you solve the problem with the camera on the note 20 ultra? I have that problem too?

Cvjetko said:
Does anybody else notices that the foto's taken lately are not sharp anymore on their note? I think it came with the latest software updates definitely foto's have gotten worse just not sharp anymore when zooming and focus issues
I also have one brand new unboxed snapdragon version with similar results so it must be software !
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I've noticed it too. I thought I just had smudges on the back of the glass or something, but it has happened way to often now. It happens even after I thoroughly clean the glass or if too much sunlight hits the lense.
However, I've noticed that if I switch to a different camera mode, like going from portrait to photo and then back to portrait, the lense seems to finally focus and usually I'll lock onto the subject and the photo is sharp again.
I usually notice the lack of focus when I'm in portrait mode starting off, right after opening the camera app. It does happen from time to time opening the app, starting in photo mode too, but not nearly as often as starting in portrait mode. This is on a Verizon Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon variant.

I read a few forums and came across one comment where a man says he had the same problem and was told at the service station that his camera module had broken down. He made a camera module in service and now there is no more problem with that ... my licbo opinion is that everything is related to a software error...

Only way I can solve it is shut off the auto stability. On everything. Antishake. I've been messing with it complaining for months

Look these

Ajdin55 said:
I read a few forums and came across one comment where a man says he had the same problem and was told at the service station that his camera module had broken down. He made a camera module in service and now there is no more problem with that ... my licbo opinion is that everything is related to a software error...
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How does one make a camera module?

Has there been any movement on this?
I have a Note 20 Ultra, and I've noticed that my main camera does not focus anymore. I cannot get a sharp picture of text or my kids, or anything that's less than about 20 feet away. If I move back far enough and then zoom in, the telephoto lens can focus better.
Another test - the barcode scanner in Walmart/Target apps cannot focus on a barcode either.
I suspect this is hardware failure of the main camera. It can't focus anymore.
Does anyone have any experience fixing this?
I bought the phone "eBay Refurbished" and it came with a 1yr Allstate (SquareTrade) warranty... but that has been a mess so far, too.

There's a new option, can't remember where, that supposedly processes your images. Think AI moon debacle. Turn it off and take it raw.
I think it's activated by default after the update.

Bomn said:
There's a new option, can't remember where, that supposedly processes your images. Think AI moon debacle. Turn it off and take it raw.
I think it's activated by default after the update.
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FWIW... I can't get it to focus even BEFORE I take a photo. So, it's not post-processing or anything that's messing up.
Additionally... the Walmart, Target, Amazon (etc) apps that have barcode scanners can't focus on a barcode to scan them most of the time, either.
Before I make a claim on my phone insurance and end up with a non-OEM camera replacement... I want to eliminate any possibilities that it's something software-related.
Thanks

That is odd, if it can't focus and it's not post processing it's a hardware issue. I have no problems with them right now. If you shake the phone near your ear do you hear the OIS rattle ?
Seems a warranty claim right there, it sure as hell is not software if it can't focus beforehand.

Ajdin55 said:
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Bro from 5X it switches to that periscope lens of the camera, OFC the quality will improve

Question [CLOSED] Pixel 7 Pro OIS Rattle?

Hi XDA. I purchased a P7P back in early November and recently it took a little tumble off my desk. Instinctively, I shook it to see if anything came loose and to my dismay it rattled. Upon further research, I found that the OIS in this and many other devices with similar camera hardware have this tendency to rattle. Do all P7Ps have this trait or is it a lottery? Would it be worth an exchange or will the new device most likely have the same "feature"?
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proxyx said:
Hi XDA. I purchased a P7P back in early November and recently it took a little tumble off my desk. Instinctively, I shook it to see if anything came loose and to my dismay it rattled. Upon further research, I found that the OIS in this and many other devices with similar camera hardware have this tendency to rattle. Do all P7Ps have this trait or is it a lottery? Would it be worth an exchange or will the new device most likely have the same "feature"?
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Proxyx
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They ALL rattle. It's mechanical, it moves around when shaken.

Ahhh good... I guess. lol. I wonder if it would be possible to make a mod that left the camera at 5x zoom and then reset to 1x when the camera app was launched. At 5x zoom the rattle goes away.
Thanks for your response!

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