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INCREDIBLE Raphael Camera Discovery

Hi Guys
I was testing out the camera on my Fuze last night in complete darkness in my room. So i put the flash on, and started snapping some pictures. What I started to notice was that there was this halo on the right side of the screen. I quickly figured out that this was from the LED light hitting the back casing and bouncing back into the camera lens! I removed the back of the Fuze, and snapped another picture. The differences are AMAZING! THe following pictures have the exact same settings and everything, one was just taken with the back on and with without the back on.
Check it out!
With Back On = http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0022.jpg
Without Back On = http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0020.jpg

I guess my pictures dont have this halo as stated here http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/votum3/IMAG0022.jpg
or at least not that strong
NExt problem is how to solve that without removing back casing? Maybe impossible ;(
Nice find! THanks

Thanks. The only thing that I was considering was some type of jacket that goes around the flash that plugs the space between the back casing and the flash. But I'm not exatly sure how I could do that...

You can modify your case by putting a dark piece of material in the case to separate the light form the camera lens.

Yea I was thinking maybe some of that black foam type stuff with the adhesive on the back thats often used on electronics would work great.

maybe it is a ORB..
tvos

tvos said:
maybe it is a ORB..
tvos
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ROFL

Yea after I took the picture my camera was actually taken by a spirit and thrown across the room. I tried to get it back but to no avail...

whats needed is to make the hole that little bit bigger

In my opinon HTC should leave the camera out from these business models, lower the price and make them smaller in size or something...

id rather they make them actually usable like some nokia or sony models myself. i love not having to carry around a separate camera as long as the phone camera is up to snuff.

A small square of felt between them ought to do the trick.....

dont have that problem

leaving out the camera is like limiting the device of what it can REALLY do. true, many business's state no camera phones on site, simple solution find another job.. j/k have two devices one w/wo camera..
tvos

Loco5150 said:
In my opinon HTC should leave the camera out from these business models, lower the price and make them smaller in size or something...
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Yesterday I had send a document to a coworker, and I used my Pro to take a picture.
Last month I had to e-mail a bank receipt while on the go, guess what I did?
So yes, the camera is important for business use, and I would never buy a phone without it.

Smaniac said:
Yesterday I had send a document to a coworker, and I used my Pro to take a picture.
Last month I had to e-mail a bank receipt while on the go, guess what I did?
So yes, the camera is important for business use, and I would never buy a phone without it.
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exactly - so much easier than writing stuff down

I'm a service tech....and use the camera to snap pictures of goofy stuff I see
on machines, and sometimes mail them to the tech support center. I've always
been told a picture is like 1000 words...

last week I caught my spouse cheating on me finally and took pictures with my diamond pro... so yes, it is good for business, especially when you can give it to your attoryney for grounds of divorce..
tvos
ps. just kidding - having fun with this topic! hehhe

djcaston said:
Thanks. The only thing that I was considering was some type of jacket that goes around the flash that plugs the space between the back casing and the flash. But I'm not exatly sure how I could do that...
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If anyone tries this, or any other fix successfully, will you please post pics of your "repair"?
Thanks!

djcaston said:
Hi Guys
I was testing out the camera on my Fuze last night in complete darkness in my room. So i put the flash on, and started snapping some pictures. What I started to notice was that there was this halo on the right side of the screen. I quickly figured out that this was from the LED light hitting the back casing and bouncing back into the camera lens! I removed the back of the Fuze, and snapped another picture. The differences are AMAZING! THe following pictures have the exact same settings and everything, one was just taken with the back on and with without the back on.
Check it out!
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This has been discovered on the Kaiser forum a while ago already. But now that you mention it, i check the back cover and surprisingly, I haven't noticed until now that there is no protecting glasses in the holes.

Is Lense flare a common hardware problem?

Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.

Seems likely to be hardware related. I have only seen it once or twice and it has to be in the perfect lighting arrangement to really see it. I think it is being blown way out of proportion, it isn't anywhere near as bad as the internet would have you believe.

JAYNO20 said:
Seems likely to be hardware related. I have only seen it once or twice and it has to be in the perfect lighting arrangement to really see it. I think it is being blown way out of proportion, it isn't anywhere near as bad as the internet would have you believe.
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Thank you dude for the detailed info

bush911 said:
Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.
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I've never seen it happen on my pixel and I take a lot of photos. Any camera will show flare if you're shooting towards the light... even my $4k DSLR..

bush911 said:
Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.
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I've seen it often but it doesn't look too bad. I'll attach a picture where it's caused by the backlight of my computer screen

I can reproduce it in certain conditions. For example, I can reproduce the halo on my phone when the light source is facing the opposite direction of the camera and I angle the camera precisely the right away. Aside from that, I've never had it affect any photos unless I'm intentionally trying to get it do so to see what's causing it. I've never had it show up in any of my outdoor photos yet.

It is definitely blown way out of proportion by people on the internet, IMO. It doesn't really happen to me unless I'm shooting right at the sun or a bright light source (which is kind of a bad way to take photographs in general anyway).

I have received my blue Pixel yesterday and thought that Google possibly did something to fix it and didn't expect my unit to have this. An hour ago, I was trying the camera out and was in the kitchen. When the light source was on left from me, then halo appeared, tilting/moving the phone closer towards the left(to the light), then halo started to diminish and after 15-20 degrees it was no longer affecting the shot. The halo thing is easy to spot and user is just able to turn a little and have a perfectly nice shot. I am personally not concerned about this unless the issues would be very severe and would appear in multiple angles. I think the back glass panel could be the issue.

Well noted, thank you guys for your response. will try to buy one from goole, ship to USA, then transfer to China.

Is it only me - or is the Sony XZ Permium becoming a joke?

Hey there,
see, I'm not really the impatient kind of guy, I have lived through all the LG G4 issues, I had my deviced repaired three times. People make mistakes, so do major companies.
But one thing I really don't fancy is the feeling of being mocked. Right now, I'm really considering returning my XZP and kissing Sony good bye for good.
Here's why:
My smartphone has some random weird bugs:
- the front facing speaks just switch off randomly until restart
- the screen sometimes flickers until I turn adaptive illumination off and on again
- did anyone here check only reviews? Most hail the camera for its impressive quality. What quality!? My old G4 beats the XZP under all conditions, the G2 is at least very very close - and it's now four years old.
- and the distortion issue.
I mentioned a few things on the Sony forum and for some weird reason all of these threads just disappear into thin air. When contacting the Sony support, they'd advise me to do a software reset (MoFo please!).
Is this a bad joke? Is that how Sony wants to get back in the game of top-notch smartphones? I'm beginning to understand all the promos for those who preordered - they knew what they had coming.
Really, it's kind of hard to get me pi**ed but I'm kinda pi**ed.

Can't you replace it if you think your unit is defective alternative return it?

FartyParty said:
Can't you replace it if you think your unit is defective alternative return it?
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Yea, sure. But that is not what I meant. It's not about returning and having it repaired (what btw will not happen if they don't even acknowledge the issue), it's about how they deal with that. I mean, especially talking of the distortion issue - that is not just me. That is most likely with all devices or at least a very very big share. How come they just ignore that? LG or even Apple, they are at least straight when they make mistakes.

Illux said:
Yea, sure. But that is not what I meant. It's not about returning and having it repaired (what btw will not happen if they don't even acknowledge the issue), it's about how they deal with that. I mean, especially talking of the distortion issue - that is not just me. That is most likely with all devices or at least a very very big share. How come they just ignore that? LG or even Apple, they are at least straight when they make mistakes.
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And here I just picked up two Premiums haha. Sorry that you're unhappy.

I don't think Sony is ignoring anything. But it is not even fully released yet around the world. I am sure they are aware of the issues and "hopefully" will come up with a patch to remedy all the big issues. As for your particular phone you may have received a lemon and simply need to replace it. I can appreciate the major hassle of doing such a thing but it is an unfortunate reality in today's world. I say all this as an owner of the black version of the xz premium and I love it. I am not having the major issues that some are having. Got it from the UK.

Most definitely a defective unit. Speakers turning off until restart? Not gonna have any of that lol. RETURN FOR ANOTHER UNIT IF POSSIBLE!
My own case is different, I feel like I've got the best device for me at the moment.
Sent from my G8141 using Tapatalk

pre-ordered mine today and will be in hand Sunday morning, hopefully this batch of us units are better and don't face any of these issues. I'll exchange till I'm happy or get refunded. I seem to get lucky with my Sony products so crossing fingers.

I'm just going to leave this here...
This is a link to a post I made on Sony's forum a while ago. Personally I think you have a faulty unit but you never know, maybe the history likes to repeat itself?
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ-Premium/Things-to-consider-when-placing-the-XZ-Premium-pre-order/td-p/1216037

Are you at it again.

You must have a faulty unit. Return it mines been great!

Illux said:
Hey there,
see, I'm not really the impatient kind of guy, I have lived through all the LG G4 issues, I had my deviced repaired three times. People make mistakes, so do major companies.
But one thing I really don't fancy is the feeling of being mocked. Right now, I'm really considering returning my XZP and kissing Sony good bye for good.
Here's why:
My smartphone has some random weird bugs:
- the front facing speaks just switch off randomly until restart
- the screen sometimes flickers until I turn adaptive illumination off and on again
- did anyone here check only reviews? Most hail the camera for its impressive quality. What quality!? My old G4 beats the XZP under all conditions, the G2 is at least very very close - and it's now four years old.
- and the distortion issue.
I mentioned a few things on the Sony forum and for some weird reason all of these threads just disappear into thin air. When contacting the Sony support, they'd advise me to do a software reset (MoFo please!).
Is this a bad joke? Is that how Sony wants to get back in the game of top-notch smartphones? I'm beginning to understand all the promos for those who preordered - they knew what they had coming.
Really, it's kind of hard to get me pi**ed but I'm kinda pi**ed.
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Genuinely not suffering any of those issues!

Shnig said:
Genuinely not suffering any of those issues!
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Well you definitely are suffering from the distortion issue, all XZP phones have it. Open up a grid pattern on your PC screen or take a picture of a brick wall. You will definitely notice a pincushion deformation at the edges of the picture.

Me too

As mentioned, all XZP have it. All. No exceptions - Sony confirmed this already .

Benio9436 said:
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For god's sake, who would take picture of perfectly square grid on a daily basis?
This is just like those idiots who bought a thousand dollars wide angle DSLR lens and complain about distortion by shooting only brick walls all day.
Wide angle has distortion! It is tough to get rid of it physically in the glass already for full size camera, let alone getting rid of it in a lens the size of a pea!
If the lens on the phone can be that perfect, you will be paying well over $1000 for the phone itself!
If camera is all you care, go get Huawei's P9/P10!
To OP, seriously, replace your phone, many users aren't having same issues as you do meaning yours is faulty!
It is much more realistic to physically go replace it than to whine about it online! Finding sympathy in virtual world will get you no where, this goes the same for all other brands!
Let Sony gets your faulty unit to examine, and to prevent same thing from happening in future phones is much more realistic than raising waves online with all sorts of words.

Monkii said:
For god's sake, who would take picture of perfectly square grid on a daily basis?
This is just like those idiots who bought a thousand dollars wide angle DSLR lens and complain about distortion by shooting only brick walls all day.
Wide angle has distortion! It is tough to get rid of it physically in the glass already for full size camera, let alone getting rid of it in a lens the size of a pea!
If the lens on the phone can be that perfect, you will be paying well over $1000 for the phone itself!
If camera is all you care, go get Huawei's P9/P10!
To OP, seriously, replace your phone, many users aren't having same issues as you do meaning yours is faulty!
It is much more realistic to physically go replace it than to whine about it online! Finding sympathy in virtual world will get you no where, this goes the same for all other brands!
Let Sony gets your faulty unit to examine, and to prevent same thing from happening in future phones is much more realistic than raising waves online with all sorts of words.
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People don't do doesn't mean issue is gone. Xperia Z3 compact has wide angle lens too, it doesn't have such significant distortion. Galaxy S7 also has large FOV lens, but their developer gave an auto-correction option. We payed almost same price, and Sony said its camera is perfect in ad.s
what's more, wide angle lens won't take photos like this, it's the damn lens correction software fault

Sony just manage to balance its cheque book in the mobile field. Honestly, allow them time to cure it, Sony deserve to stay.
All I wanna point out is that, it is not really big issue unless you shoot picture of computer mon, grid or brick wall all day. And many people mixed the distortion with typical wide angle lens perspective distortion, which created more chaos than necessary.
Many people still shooting great picture of people and scenary, so stop worrying so much. Have fun with the phone, when times come the firmware upgrade, we will get even better grid/brick wall pictures.

Monkii said:
Sony just manage to balance its cheque book in the mobile field. Honestly, allow them time to cure it, Sony deserve to stay.
All I wanna point out is that, it is not really big issue unless you shoot picture of computer mon, grid or brick wall all day. And many people mixed the distortion with typical wide angle lens perspective distortion, which created more chaos than necessary.
Many people still shooting great picture of people and scenary, so stop worrying so much. Have fun with the phone, when times come the firmware upgrade, we will get even better grid/brick wall pictures.
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Sony saving its mony in a wrong way. They deliver the best cmos, but do less work on software. Photos still look painted, and without OIS (EIS only in Video mode), it is hard to take a perfect photo at night

Bonelol said:
People don't do doesn't mean issue is gone. Xperia Z3 compact has wide angle lens too, it doesn't have such significant distortion. Galaxy S7 also has large FOV lens, but their developer gave an auto-correction option. We payed almost same price, and Sony said its camera is perfect in ad.s
what's more, wide angle lens won't take photos like this, it's the damn lens correction software fault
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I am suffering from the distortion issue right now ,bought it because I saw the ad shows a perfect camera on this phone.

Well, true, they need more effort on software side. Again, they are in the right step with the new managment focusing on collaboration between departments, time will tell how much better they will do. Previously they don't collaborate.

Is the camera worth it?

I really love the Oneplus 6, top to bottom, don't care the missing of the stereo speaker or the notch (cause OOS seem to deal with it quite good)
The only issue keeps me from buying it is the camera. I have seen a lot of reviews and comments about the camera and they are pretty mixed which confused me.
I need the phone to last for about 3 years or so and I mainly use it when I travel and to takes photos. I heard that there are updates that fix things but still read that there are issues.
Can you guys give me your own opinion about the camera and if I should go for it or move to the Galaxy S8 plus?
P/s: quite sure that I will try to use Gcam instead on both phone, have it on my old phone and it absolutely surprised me cuz the image came out quite nice for such an old phone.
Not a fan of any brands (except Iphone which I don't really like, but I do like Ipad and I don't hate Apple by any means) so if you have other recommendation under $500 then feels free to say, so far I only see these 2 are the best for what my budget can buy.
Thank you for your helps.

It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr

The camera is mint works amazing!

Eric214 said:
It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr
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Wow glad to hear from a photographer, I would definitely pick OP 6 if I don't mind the camera as I used to, but planned to go on multiple vacations with it and personally loves to take scenery photos so your reply helps a bunch.
Gonna take another look and get the OP 6. My friend has a deal for it with about 100$ off

No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.

Batfink33 said:
No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.
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Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying

Ethan140310 said:
Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying
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Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.

Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
Video quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/video-quality-t3772652
Low light
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/low-light-t3772650

i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung

DamiDev said:
Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
Video quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/video-quality-t3772652
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/low-light-t3772650
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I do really understand why you bring the links here but seriously I read all of those (except the video one since I'm not fond of that anyway, have like 1 or 2 videos taken with my 2.5 years old phone) and it's really confusing, some said good some said bad (and they do have evidence)
I check on xda (which tbh my trusty place to find user experience) and they are mixed.
I check on youtube with those reviewers I think that are not bs, and it's still mixed.
I check all those reviews on the internet and other forums, and it's still mixed.
I don't usually do these Q&A on XDA (this actually my first) because this is just too hard to decide this time.
Thanks you for your help but it yet solve my confusions.

athris said:
i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung
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That's interesting, I use it for my vacations and I love to take scenery shots (and probally a few shot with my friends or selfies but only a little as I don't like to take photos of myself or person in general)
I'm still yet decided if I stick with Samsung software or move to a custom rom since they both have pros and cons (and somehow I find the S8 forum is not really active?)
but I totally love the experience that I saw on the OP 6 so far.
If you have either of the phone or both, I would really love to hear more of your opinion, thank you.

Gr8man001 said:
Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!

Ethan140310 said:
That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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I will post few sample shots thus evening whe I return home.

Ethan140310 said:
That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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Here are some sample shots.

Gr8man001 said:
Here are some sample shots.
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That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?

Ethan140310 said:
That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?
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I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.

Gr8man001 said:
I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.
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I tend to drop my phone so probably a shockproof case (and be more careful since it's glass) but thank you so much for the advice! :highfive::highfive:

Question Camera pink tint

If I take pictures of something white in low light conditions, there is a pink tint in the center. Anybody else has this problem?

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lol

Taebom said:
lol
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What?

ione2380 said:
If I take pictures of something white in low light conditions, there is a pink tint in the center. Anybody else has this problem?
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White blinds, low light conditions... Standard Mode

Barmenchik said:
White blinds, low light conditions... Standard Mode
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Yours looks okay but it does look like to have a slight whiteish hue when my screen is very bright.

ione2380 said:
If I take pictures of something white in low light conditions, there is a pink tint in the center. Anybody else has this problem?
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Does not look at obvious but I am pretty sure it is a hardware defect. You should just return it and get another unit, maybe even get the Fold 3 and not the Flip 3

Barmenchik said:
White blinds, low light conditions... Standard Mode
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Did you had flash on? Thanks for your answer.

ione2380 said:
Did you had flash on? Thanks for your answer.
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No, without.

i have the exact same issue front facing and back cameras in very low light conditions could it be software related ?

antonis29 said:
i have the exact same issue front facing and back cameras in very low light conditions could it be software related ?
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I don't know. I replaced my unit and the new one still has is, but it's much better than the first. It's impossible that all three sensors are faulty on 2 different phones. Or maybe extremely bad luck.
300 people looked at this thread and only one of them the was willing to take a picture to see if this is software or hardware. They just don't care or don't know how to take pictures, maybe.

ione2380 said:
I don't know. I replaced my unit and the new one still has is, but it's much better than the first. It's impossible that all three sensors are faulty on 2 different phones. Or maybe extremely bad luck.
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idk i am waiting for the first software update to tell ... i am a bit dissapointed though .

ione2380 said:
I don't know. I replaced my unit and the new one still has is, but it's much better than the first. It's impossible that all three sensors are faulty on 2 different phones. Or maybe extremely bad luck.
300 people looked at this thread and only one of them the was willing to take a picture to see if this is software or hardware. They just don't care or don't know how to take pictures, maybe.
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It's also possible they are busy with other things and didn't see the value in posting "haven't noticed" but hopefully calling them ignorant will get better results.
Haven't seen anything like the first picture, but the second two seem fairly normal.
Using night mode will tend to increase the effect. Unfortunately, this isn't an S21 / Note 20 Ultra that has the "top of the line" image processing software, so it tends to make a less effective attempt to improve the image. If you watch carefully, you will see the image capture with "proper" white, but then process and appear with a hue. You only have an instant to catch it, but you can see it happen.

ione2380 said:
I don't know. I replaced my unit and the new one still has is, but it's much better than the first. It's impossible that all three sensors are faulty on 2 different phones. Or maybe extremely bad luck.
300 people looked at this thread and only one of them the was willing to take a picture to see if this is software or hardware. They just don't care or don't know how to take pictures, maybe.
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i will post a photo later so that the night falls where i live , but it's pretty much the same with the pictures you posted

here you go

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It's also possible they are busy with other things and didn't see the value in posting "haven't noticed" but hopefully calling them ignorant will get better results.
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Sure. Everyone is busy. They don't need to post "haven't noticed". Just post some sample photos. The time that takes someone to write a useless replay, like yours, could be used to take a picture instead.

antonis29 said:
i will post a photo later so that the night falls where i live , but it's pretty much the same with the pictures you posted
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You already said you have the issue, so you don't need to post a picture. I believe you.

ione2380 said:
Sure. Everyone is busy. They don't need to post "haven't noticed". Just post some sample photos. The time that takes someone to write a useless replay, like yours, could be used to take a picture instead.
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I was busy taking photos, comparing them to yours, and editing my post while you wrote that. Sometimes it pays to be just a little patient before you start bashing people.

twistedumbrella said:
I was busy taking photos, comparing them to yours, and editing my post while you wrote that. Sometimes it pays to be just a little patient before you start bashing people.
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I'm not bashing anyone. I'm always willing to help if I see someone on xda that needs help and I got the knowledge. This problem doesn't require any knowledge. Anybody can take a picture, as long as they have this phone. I was ironic when I said "maybe they don't know how to take pictures", just because of that.
This thread has been up for 7 days and you say everybody is busy. Day, night and the weekend. But they still got time to be on xda.
Thanks for editing your first replay with some useful stuff, but I see pink on viewfinder also, not just after the processing. Like I said, I already replaced my unit and this is much, much better, almost a non-issue, so I don't care about this for myself. I see there are others that are starting to see this problem. That's why I insisted on this matter. Not my intention to offend anyone.

ione2380 said:
I'm not bashing anyone. I'm always willing to help if I see someone on xda that needs help and I got the knowledge. This problem doesn't require any knowledge. Anybody can take a picture, as long as they have this phone. I was ironic when I said "maybe they don't know how to take pictures", just because of that.
This thread has been up for 7 days and you say everybody is busy. Day, night and the weekend. But they still got time to be on xda.
Thanks for editing your first replay with some useful stuff, but I see pink on viewfinder also, not just after the processing. Like I said, I already replaced my unit and this is much, much better, almost a non-issue, so I don't care about this for myself. I see there are others that are starting to see this problem. That's why I insisted on this matter. Not my intention to offend anyone.
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There is a difference between having time to be on xda reading and having the time and conditions to take a low-light photo that they are willing to post on a public forum. You also have to consider that some of the traffic isn't even device owners. They are considering the device and interested in the issues or saw the thread in "NEW POSTS" and read it just out of curiosity.
Low light (and night mode) mode attempt to use the available light to adjust the picture. That can also mean the image inherits the tint of the light. Samsung has come a long way with low light photos, but they threw all that away and went back a generation releasing this phone. It will probably improve as they start to backport the new improvements to the old sensors.