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G2 camera glass on the outside? where to get one?

ok so i've searched all over the place and all i see is the actual camera unit for sale. i can't find the outside piece thats on the case (the glass piece). mine is all scratched up and my pics look like ****. all blurry and fuzzy looking. i'd like to replace it, but can't find that piece. any help would be appreciated. thank you guys.

i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm

ACHILLES R32 said:
i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm
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Thanks, mine needs this too. Odd since I've kept this thing in a soft cloth or leather case with felt padding on the inside the whole time...

ACHILLES R32 said:
i found the back cover on ebay and some other site here are the links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-G2-Misc...784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3373afe6a8
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-T-Mobile-G2-Back-Housing-p/htc740405.htm
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thanks for the links. i actually saw these when i searched the web. i was hoping to only get that small glass piece that covers the camera instead of buying the whole back cover. not sure if it actually comes like that, but if anyone else has any info on it that would be great.

konoplya said:
thanks for the links. i actually saw these when i searched the web. i was hoping to only get that small glass piece that covers the camera instead of buying the whole back cover. not sure if it actually comes like that, but if anyone else has any info on it that would be great.
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From the links, it looks like it's built into the back casing. Kinda makes sense though since it would have to be pressfit on I guess.

Athrun88 said:
From the links, it looks like it's built into the back casing. Kinda makes sense though since it would have to be pressfit on I guess.
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thats what i was afraid of. i guess i'll buy the back cover. thanks for your help everyone.

Mine too!
I have had the unfortunate results like yourselves. However what I did serves me well enough.
I took a screen protector and cut a small square. Placing that over the camera has removed the haze from my pictures.

konoplya said:
mine is all scratched up and my pics look like ****. all blurry and fuzzy looking. i'd like to replace it, but can't find that piece..
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hmmmm kind of serves you right for keeping your phone unprotected in a pocket with keys or lose change.
next time round get a case/pouch mine covers my entire phone protecting from both scratches and impact damage.
BTW the DZ cam is pretty crappy and blurry any way ........ even by pinhole lens phone cam standards so don't expect miracles once replaced.

Guru Zeb said:
BTW the DZ cam is pretty crappy and blurry any way ........ even by pinhole lens phone cam standards so don't expect miracles once replaced.
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Umm, no. My Z takes pretty good photos. Of course very low light situations will result in longer shutter time, and increased chances for blur due to camera or the subject moving. But in most conditions good photos are very possible, and mostly a matter of technique and experience. Manually adjusting ISO, white balance, taking advantage of what light is present, and bracing the camera can all have major impact on the quality of the photo, even in lower light situations. Moral of the story your problem is likely more the user, and not the equipment. I don't mean that in a pejorative way. But while not the best camera phone around, good photos are possible with the Z, with the proper technique.

I used a mild lens restorer on mine fixed her right up. Perfect pictures again

redpoint73 said:
Umm, no. My Z takes pretty good photos. Of course very low light situations will result in longer shutter time, and increased chances for blur due to camera or the subject moving. But in most conditions good photos are very possible, and mostly a matter of technique and experience. Manually adjusting ISO, white balance, taking advantage of what light is present, and bracing the camera can all have major impact on the quality of the photo, even in lower light situations. Moral of the story your problem is likely more the user, and not the equipment. I don't mean that in a pejorative way. But while not the best camera phone around, good photos are possible with the Z, with the proper technique.
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No offence bro but considering the fact i was a professional photographer for 6 years straight and still do some work now as a pro photographer.
I have no "problems" with photographic "technique"
Maybe my ideas of 'clear' and 'sharp' digital images is a little more informed and nuanced than yours. But compared to a few other 5mp phone cameras IMHO the Desire Z is on average at best and poor if you want to be critical.

Guru Zeb said:
No offence bro but considering the fact i was a professional photographer for 6 years straight and still do some work now as a pro photographer.
I have no "problems" with photographic "technique"
Maybe my ideas of 'clear' and 'sharp' digital images is a little more informed and nuanced than yours. But compared to a few other 5mp phone cameras IMHO the Desire Z is on average at best and poor if you want to be critical.
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Hard to take your comment of "no offence" seriously, as you are bragging about your photog experience and how much "more informed" you are than me (no basis for any such claim). Why not keep it to a technical discussion, instead of boasting about how awesome you are, "bro"?
Largely comes down to expectations and opinion. Camera phones are largely for spur-of the moment snapshots (not serious photography). For this, the Desire Z is just fine. We are also talking about a phone that is a year and a half old. In its time, its camera was much better (especially low light) than the iPhone iteration of the time (3GS). Were there camera phones at the time that were a bit better, yes, but not drastically. More recent phones have significantly better cameras, and the One X looks to blow away most the competition (except the Nokia Pureview's monster 41 MP camera). But seeing as every other spec on smartphones has come a long way in the past year and a half, its not really fair to compare the Z to newer phones.
Also, seeing as the OP is just looking to restore his present technology to a previous condition, calling it "crappy and blurry" doesn't really help him out at all.

Agree with previous poster, seriously if you want good pics you get an slr or dedicated rig. Most people don't carry that around. For what it is the camera on this phone is very good to good enough depending who you ask and their expectations. Sure beats carrying around a point and shoot or slr multi lens combo. Like I told the OP if your considering getting a new back then try cleaning it up with a mild abrasive like a lens restorer, CD scratch remover something of that nature. I used the stuff for headlights it was like 5 bucks. Don't go crazy I used super minimal pressure and a soft paper towel and it took all of 30 seconds to clear up no joke. Good as new and I haven't had to do it again. In my case it was the anti-reflective coating in the glass, since it was shot who cares right? Came off and pics are sharp again. In the future if I actually scratch it I'll probably buy a replacement but that did it for me. Just my 2 cents.

I had the same problem as you, but I managed to fix it using a polish dedicated to car headlights.

Thaks for the links, i have problems with the camera glass too.
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This phone has been available to purchase for one month. Give your thoughts!

I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.

I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.

wtoj34 said:
I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...

Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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thunderbls said:
I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
85gallon said:
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
Div033 said:
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.

scrosler said:
-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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scrosler said:
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.

Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???

Div033 said:
Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html

xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.

Opinions on the s5

Hey all, I went from the gs3 to the HTC m8 and I have a guy that may want to trade me for his gs5. I'm seriously thinking about it but wanted to get a little input from you guys. How satisfied are you with the phone? I know every device has ups and downs, just trying to make an informed decision here.

I am pretty satisfied as you said every device has its ups and downs I have owned both the m8 and the s5 the only thing i miss about the M8 is the appearance as far as looks go the m8 takes the cake. The s5 definitely feels snappier and faster browsing around the phone opening apps etc it also seems to charge quicker. The fingerprint reader is pretty decent just make sure you register your thumb sideways so its more useful to you and you dont have to re-position your hand to use it. Overall i believe the S5 is a better phone and no worries as far as Roms etc it should get there soon the M8 had a headstart!

That's good. I think I may make the trade if the other guy is still interested. We are suppose to talk later.

metalfan78 said:
Hey all, I went from the gs3 to the HTC m8 and I have a guy that may want to trade me for his gs5. I'm seriously thinking about it but wanted to get a little input from you guys. How satisfied are you with the phone? I know every device has ups and downs, just trying to make an informed decision here.
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Not sure if you want some more input but in order to help I would have to ask the question.....what made you choose the M8 over the S5 initially? The answer I think will help to provide clues as to what your usage consists of.

I had quite a few htc phones before I got the gs3 and wanted to give them another shot. I like sense, I like the front speakers, the 32 gb storage, and the form factor. It's a nice looking, nice sounding phone. I really just wanted to switch it up a bit. Oh, and I wasn't too fond of Knox.

metalfan78 said:
I had quite a few htc phones before I got the gs3 and wanted to give them another shot. I like sense, I like the front speakers, the 32 gb storage, and the form factor. It's a nice looking, nice sounding phone. I really just wanted to switch it up a bit. Oh, and I wasn't too fond of Knox.
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I think one of the biggest drawbacks of the S5 is the 16gb internal. Wouldn't be a big deal if KK didn't keep app data from being moved over to the extSD. I know there are options such as Foldermount to get things moved but still would be nice to have more storage. Coming from the S3 to S4 to S5 I do like the newer TW layout better on the S5 and it has more options to customize. Never used the M8 so I can't give any personal comparisons unfortunately.

This is a very nice device. The dual WiFi antennas make for reasonable WiFi link speeds. USB 3.0 charges really fast and transfers data very fast. Screen is excellent and bright in daylight and dim at night which the s3 was not good at. Processor is extremely fast. My only small complaints are home button waking up phone in my pocket and menu button is now recent apps. Phone is not slippery in hand unlike the s3. Camera is excellent and fast. I'm not disappointed at all and I was not initially going to upgrade but I'm glad I did.
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Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.

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This is a very nice device. The dual WiFi antennas make for reasonable WiFi link speeds. USB 3.0 charges really fast and transfers data very fast. Screen is excellent and bright in daylight and dim at night which the s3 was not good at. Processor is extremely fast. My only small complaints are home button waking up phone in my pocket and menu button is now recent apps. Phone is not slippery in hand unlike the s3. Camera is excellent and fast. I'm not disappointed at all and I was not initially going to upgrade but I'm glad I did.
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Check out Wanam Xposed to turn off "Wake device with Home button"
The battery cover of the black S5 is a little grippier than the white one as it was on the Note 3's.

mswlogo said:
Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.
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The blurriness from the camera is most likely coming from a protective film that you can't see but it is there and once you remove it the pics are outstanding
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The blurriness from the camera is most likely coming from a protective film that you can't see but it is there and once you remove it the pics are outstanding
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I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
mswlogo said:
Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.
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Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.

CCallahan said:
I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.
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If you take you fingernail and scrape in the corner against the lens the film will come off. Like I said you can not see it there is no tab indicating it's there. It was that same thread that some one else found the protective film.
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Had the HTC m8 for about a month, and this phone had problems going from a cell tower thats been updated with Sprint stupid spark, to a tower that was either LTE or 3G, and I was dropping calls in places that I never drop calls, I read on a lot of sprint forums that other people around the country was having similar problems. I exchange my phone for another m8, and the problems contiune, Sprint gave me the hardest time with this problem, sprint even told me I may have to wait for sprint to update certain towers in my area, Like sprint has the best record of being prompt ! So I had to raise holy hell to even make them condsider that the stories in the forums about the phone software not being optimized in he first shipments of the m8 not cooperating with their towers, finally I was able to switch to SGS5, haven't had a problems since switching. I really,reallly wanted the M8 over the S5, but came back to Sammy.

Wait, you got them to give you a gs5? Were you within your 14 days?

Only issue I have is not with the phone itself but with sprint spark and how data turns off when a call comes in kind of a pain when your downloading from lte or surfing the web with a Bluetooth in.
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sml2004 said:
Only issue I have is not with the phone itself but with sprint spark and how data turns off when a call comes in kind of a pain when your downloading from lte or surfing the web with a Bluetooth in.
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Actually that is the phones fault no svdo. Simultaneous voice and data. Calls and WiFi data work though.
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CCallahan said:
I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.
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My daughter has an S5 and she says it's flimsy. Also seen it mentioned in a pretty good review comparing M8 vs S5. Same review mentioned camera being slow on the S5 and only adequate in day light.
One test folks can try is compare your daylight outdoor photos with indoor/evening photos. Bet ya the outdoor ones are not blurry.
Plastic can be done right. But the S5 looks like a toy phone with that double rib plastic chrome. I like the textured back.
Levono is supposed to start making phones soon. Perhaps we'll see a Carbon Fiber one soon. That would be a great material.
I put E-Grip on the back of my M8 to make it not so slippery. I have on all my phones. But it's especially needed on the M8.
I think an ever so slightly larger M7 would have been better.

Severe lens flare on camera - prob. hardware related

On my small Pixel (black 128GB edition) I get severe lens flares in situations, that were never a problem for any smartphone before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz8YmHmeJ4 The video here illustrates the issue pretty well, several very well known people on YouTube + Twitter have encountered the exact same problem, including @MKBHD, @DetroitBORG and @superscientific !
I'd like to know if there are devices out there that don't have this problem. You won't see it in all lighting situations, but it's very pronounced in some - where it shouldn't be.

I have.noticed this today on my camera I attached a photo the halo or flair can be seen at the bottom the pale grey around the bottom left and right. Like you say, it's only in certain light conditions and certain angles. Must be the glass that surrounds the lense.
Looks like the the phone has been rushed out and not tested properly.

Two more photos
This is definitely a design floor as happens if the camera is on its sides, upside down and normal. Really didn't expect this from such a highly priced phone.

Some more photos from me:

I'm talking to support via the built in support. I'll let you know what they say.

I'm taking mine back to the carrier store in an hour. No way I'm going to accept this.

This is happening to me as well. Definitely a deal breaker, unless covering the glass with a case fixes the problem. It's a shame, because the camera blows everything else out of the water.

Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse

Mcyates said:
Been in contact with EE and they have said my handset is defective so they are sending me a new one tomorrow. Excellend support from them, Thought it would have been a pain in the arse
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Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.

Nitemare3219 said:
Well be prepared for disappointment. My phone has it too. I guarantee every Pixel does. Probably because of the subtle curve on the rear glass.
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Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.

Mcyates said:
Yeah I'm not going to hold my breath, but the guy who done the video in the first post had two pixels and only one of them done.this. I'll just keep returning them until I get one that works
Google said they didn't know about this but they have forwarded the link to this thread and the YouTube video so they can investigate further.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/

Nitemare3219 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/
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Thanks for the lim, well I can't stop the new phone arriving so I'll just take hold of it and wait for the update.

really
Nitemare3219 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...googler_on_halo_effect_can_be_mitigated_with/
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Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
CC

cc999 said:
Do you really believe they are going to eliminate the halo with that approach?
No way. It's a design flaw. The question is how does that digital picture site
give this phone such a high rating and they never saw this in any of their pictures?
This just doesn't add up. I am awaiting the XL to come back in stock to order
but this is a deal breaker for me unless this is a defect on a few phones.
CC
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DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.

Halo
Nitemare3219 said:
DxOMark actually did mention the lens flare/halo if you read the entire review... they just call it something more technical.
Yes, I fully believe they will be able to correct for this issue, at least SOMEWHAT, in software. I think the question will be whether or not they can actually preserve detail in the area where the flare is occurring. Google has pulled off some amazing feats with this camera just because of its software... they're not going to claim to do something they can't do.
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So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
CC

cc999 said:
So you are saying this is on all Pixels? Not a defect of a few?
CC
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According to Google, yes. The lens assembly is subject to very tight manufacturing tolerances. Every Pixel is going to have this issue.

Got my new phone, and as stated above I still have the flair so I'm really.imterested into what Google can actually do. I'm off to the park with my dog layer so I'll take lots of photos and upload them here if they have any flare issues.

Don't accept this. Take it back to your point of sale. Get another phone. I am so ****ing done with this.
"We completely, retardedly screwed the entire design of our phone and will now make you use a certain camera mode to mitigate (not resolve) the issue in software"
None of you should accept this.

Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.

RoccoN4 said:
Out of maybe 100 photos I have taken with this phone, you can maybe see it in like 3-4 photos. Only really happens on my end if I am shooting directly into a light source which most photos are pointing away from a light source. It's not like every photo comes out like this.
I am very very happy with this phone and the camera.
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Just been to the park and took some photos only one photo out of about 50 had a halo. I believe Google will fix this.
I've added some of the photos i took today.

Is it only me - or is the Sony XZ Permium becoming a joke?

Hey there,
see, I'm not really the impatient kind of guy, I have lived through all the LG G4 issues, I had my deviced repaired three times. People make mistakes, so do major companies.
But one thing I really don't fancy is the feeling of being mocked. Right now, I'm really considering returning my XZP and kissing Sony good bye for good.
Here's why:
My smartphone has some random weird bugs:
- the front facing speaks just switch off randomly until restart
- the screen sometimes flickers until I turn adaptive illumination off and on again
- did anyone here check only reviews? Most hail the camera for its impressive quality. What quality!? My old G4 beats the XZP under all conditions, the G2 is at least very very close - and it's now four years old.
- and the distortion issue.
I mentioned a few things on the Sony forum and for some weird reason all of these threads just disappear into thin air. When contacting the Sony support, they'd advise me to do a software reset (MoFo please!).
Is this a bad joke? Is that how Sony wants to get back in the game of top-notch smartphones? I'm beginning to understand all the promos for those who preordered - they knew what they had coming.
Really, it's kind of hard to get me pi**ed but I'm kinda pi**ed.

Can't you replace it if you think your unit is defective alternative return it?

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Can't you replace it if you think your unit is defective alternative return it?
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Yea, sure. But that is not what I meant. It's not about returning and having it repaired (what btw will not happen if they don't even acknowledge the issue), it's about how they deal with that. I mean, especially talking of the distortion issue - that is not just me. That is most likely with all devices or at least a very very big share. How come they just ignore that? LG or even Apple, they are at least straight when they make mistakes.

Illux said:
Yea, sure. But that is not what I meant. It's not about returning and having it repaired (what btw will not happen if they don't even acknowledge the issue), it's about how they deal with that. I mean, especially talking of the distortion issue - that is not just me. That is most likely with all devices or at least a very very big share. How come they just ignore that? LG or even Apple, they are at least straight when they make mistakes.
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And here I just picked up two Premiums haha. Sorry that you're unhappy.

I don't think Sony is ignoring anything. But it is not even fully released yet around the world. I am sure they are aware of the issues and "hopefully" will come up with a patch to remedy all the big issues. As for your particular phone you may have received a lemon and simply need to replace it. I can appreciate the major hassle of doing such a thing but it is an unfortunate reality in today's world. I say all this as an owner of the black version of the xz premium and I love it. I am not having the major issues that some are having. Got it from the UK.

Most definitely a defective unit. Speakers turning off until restart? Not gonna have any of that lol. RETURN FOR ANOTHER UNIT IF POSSIBLE!
My own case is different, I feel like I've got the best device for me at the moment.
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pre-ordered mine today and will be in hand Sunday morning, hopefully this batch of us units are better and don't face any of these issues. I'll exchange till I'm happy or get refunded. I seem to get lucky with my Sony products so crossing fingers.

I'm just going to leave this here...
This is a link to a post I made on Sony's forum a while ago. Personally I think you have a faulty unit but you never know, maybe the history likes to repeat itself?
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ-Premium/Things-to-consider-when-placing-the-XZ-Premium-pre-order/td-p/1216037

Are you at it again.

You must have a faulty unit. Return it mines been great!

Illux said:
Hey there,
see, I'm not really the impatient kind of guy, I have lived through all the LG G4 issues, I had my deviced repaired three times. People make mistakes, so do major companies.
But one thing I really don't fancy is the feeling of being mocked. Right now, I'm really considering returning my XZP and kissing Sony good bye for good.
Here's why:
My smartphone has some random weird bugs:
- the front facing speaks just switch off randomly until restart
- the screen sometimes flickers until I turn adaptive illumination off and on again
- did anyone here check only reviews? Most hail the camera for its impressive quality. What quality!? My old G4 beats the XZP under all conditions, the G2 is at least very very close - and it's now four years old.
- and the distortion issue.
I mentioned a few things on the Sony forum and for some weird reason all of these threads just disappear into thin air. When contacting the Sony support, they'd advise me to do a software reset (MoFo please!).
Is this a bad joke? Is that how Sony wants to get back in the game of top-notch smartphones? I'm beginning to understand all the promos for those who preordered - they knew what they had coming.
Really, it's kind of hard to get me pi**ed but I'm kinda pi**ed.
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Genuinely not suffering any of those issues!

Shnig said:
Genuinely not suffering any of those issues!
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Well you definitely are suffering from the distortion issue, all XZP phones have it. Open up a grid pattern on your PC screen or take a picture of a brick wall. You will definitely notice a pincushion deformation at the edges of the picture.

Me too

As mentioned, all XZP have it. All. No exceptions - Sony confirmed this already .

Benio9436 said:
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For god's sake, who would take picture of perfectly square grid on a daily basis?
This is just like those idiots who bought a thousand dollars wide angle DSLR lens and complain about distortion by shooting only brick walls all day.
Wide angle has distortion! It is tough to get rid of it physically in the glass already for full size camera, let alone getting rid of it in a lens the size of a pea!
If the lens on the phone can be that perfect, you will be paying well over $1000 for the phone itself!
If camera is all you care, go get Huawei's P9/P10!
To OP, seriously, replace your phone, many users aren't having same issues as you do meaning yours is faulty!
It is much more realistic to physically go replace it than to whine about it online! Finding sympathy in virtual world will get you no where, this goes the same for all other brands!
Let Sony gets your faulty unit to examine, and to prevent same thing from happening in future phones is much more realistic than raising waves online with all sorts of words.

Monkii said:
For god's sake, who would take picture of perfectly square grid on a daily basis?
This is just like those idiots who bought a thousand dollars wide angle DSLR lens and complain about distortion by shooting only brick walls all day.
Wide angle has distortion! It is tough to get rid of it physically in the glass already for full size camera, let alone getting rid of it in a lens the size of a pea!
If the lens on the phone can be that perfect, you will be paying well over $1000 for the phone itself!
If camera is all you care, go get Huawei's P9/P10!
To OP, seriously, replace your phone, many users aren't having same issues as you do meaning yours is faulty!
It is much more realistic to physically go replace it than to whine about it online! Finding sympathy in virtual world will get you no where, this goes the same for all other brands!
Let Sony gets your faulty unit to examine, and to prevent same thing from happening in future phones is much more realistic than raising waves online with all sorts of words.
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People don't do doesn't mean issue is gone. Xperia Z3 compact has wide angle lens too, it doesn't have such significant distortion. Galaxy S7 also has large FOV lens, but their developer gave an auto-correction option. We payed almost same price, and Sony said its camera is perfect in ad.s
what's more, wide angle lens won't take photos like this, it's the damn lens correction software fault

Sony just manage to balance its cheque book in the mobile field. Honestly, allow them time to cure it, Sony deserve to stay.
All I wanna point out is that, it is not really big issue unless you shoot picture of computer mon, grid or brick wall all day. And many people mixed the distortion with typical wide angle lens perspective distortion, which created more chaos than necessary.
Many people still shooting great picture of people and scenary, so stop worrying so much. Have fun with the phone, when times come the firmware upgrade, we will get even better grid/brick wall pictures.

Monkii said:
Sony just manage to balance its cheque book in the mobile field. Honestly, allow them time to cure it, Sony deserve to stay.
All I wanna point out is that, it is not really big issue unless you shoot picture of computer mon, grid or brick wall all day. And many people mixed the distortion with typical wide angle lens perspective distortion, which created more chaos than necessary.
Many people still shooting great picture of people and scenary, so stop worrying so much. Have fun with the phone, when times come the firmware upgrade, we will get even better grid/brick wall pictures.
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Sony saving its mony in a wrong way. They deliver the best cmos, but do less work on software. Photos still look painted, and without OIS (EIS only in Video mode), it is hard to take a perfect photo at night

Bonelol said:
People don't do doesn't mean issue is gone. Xperia Z3 compact has wide angle lens too, it doesn't have such significant distortion. Galaxy S7 also has large FOV lens, but their developer gave an auto-correction option. We payed almost same price, and Sony said its camera is perfect in ad.s
what's more, wide angle lens won't take photos like this, it's the damn lens correction software fault
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I am suffering from the distortion issue right now ,bought it because I saw the ad shows a perfect camera on this phone.

Well, true, they need more effort on software side. Again, they are in the right step with the new managment focusing on collaboration between departments, time will tell how much better they will do. Previously they don't collaborate.