New to Shield, some questions/help - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys! Long time Android user, current phone is a Nexus 6 on Project Fi. Bought my K1 a couple days ago but I have some questions. Appreciate any help I can get.
Does the K1 support quick charging/2.0 amp chargers? If not am I harming the battery by using one? Tried to search this and read answers that said both yes and no. Anyone know for sure.
No matter what charger I use the K1 seems to charge very slow, even when it's powered off, any way to improve that?
Battery drains really fast. I noticed that there are different power modes that might help this. I switched from Max performance to optimized to see if it would help but didn't do much. I bought the K1 to play VainGlory on it so I don't want to sacrifice power for battery. Any tips to improve this?
The physical power and volume buttons are barely accessible to touch. Is my K1 defective or are the buttons supposed to be like that. I'm wondering if the shell got shifted or something.
When I use my Bluetooth headset with the K1 the sound only comes out of the left earpiece. When I plug in with wired headphone its fine. Do I have to change a setting for the Bluetooth ones to work fully?
When I first powered up the K1 I got a prompt telling about screen recording or something along those lines but I can't remember how to use it. Is it an app or built in feature?
Is there a way to keep the on screen buttons on the bottom bar in that location when I turn the screen into landscape mode? On my Nexus the buttons just turn and the bar stays in same place. On the K1 when I turn it the bar moves to the bottom of the screen.
Wasn't going to root it but if anything I have listed can be improved or fixed by root I might have to.
TIA

Hi,
I self are a pretty new K1 User (a bit longer than a week). So some good questions.
On Android 6.0 there is a known bug about the loading of the battery. Some say that even when they loading the battery and using there K1 a bit more heavy the battery state get lower than higher, what didn't happen on Android 5.x. But I don't know if that change the complete loading times even when the K1 is off.
How fast is the battery drained on your k1? I also read that some user had bad luck with his k1 battery and after they changed the device it was much better. But first we need to know how fast it goes down at your K1, so we could say it is normal or not.
Badly I must say the button are normal, they are so bad, on all K1.
I had stereo on my bluetooth headset and I didn't saw that much settings for bluetooth, don't know if you can do anything. Hope a other user can say something about that.
Hm, that recording feature, I saw this too but I deactive it instandly, didn't need it on the Tab (but on my PC). Good question where I could find it manually. Don't know where NVidia hide it, can't find it.
Didn't saw a setting for the button bar it to change that, sorry. Different Launcher App?

Miscellaneous is listed under my battery settings as taking up 44%! Wtf is that about?

Strange, i didn't have anything with "Miscellaneous" on the list with a that high usage, only WLAN 6%, Display 2%, Standby 2%, Android 1% and Bluetooth 1%. But don't forget, this list shows only the usage since the last charging, not the actual status.
But a good question what "Miscellaneous" could be, an App?

Basically miscellaneous is the difference between what Android calculates your battery usage should be, and what it actually is.
This is my observation:
Using graphics intensive games makes this number climb drastically. Basically anything that uses all cores in the processor, or heavy gpu is going to see this.
Lots of people have complained about it but I don't know if anyone has actually clicked on it and read the description other than me.
The other complaint people associate with this is that one, or several cores are often locked at 100%. I don't have this problem so can't speak on it, but I doubt the miscellaneous thing is the cause, but rather an effect
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My battery last around 7h according to GSam Battery Monitor. With a rather inexpensive 2.4A quickcharger it takes around 3h to fully charge in my case.
The problem of locking a core in 100% is connected to logd. If you have rooted your phone you can just find and kill that process... when logd is restarted it is back to normal. Without root, you probably have to reboot your phone.

That sounds like me for charge time if I'm using it while charging. Otherwise I charge in a little less than 3 hrs. As for battery life it makes a big difference what I'm doing to determine. Playing Minecraft PE I get about 3:30 screen on before I hit 15%. Watching Netflix or just browsing the web I get almost 5 hrs
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Wifi battery drain

Hi. I'm having a problem. The wifi is draining my battery. My battery will only last about 4 hours of screen on time.
I've already check the power option of disabling wifi when the screen is off. Wifi drains at least 40%of the charge.
I've read other forums but nobody has an answer just yet. I really like this tablet, but it makes me mad just having 4 hours of battery.
Driver problem, an app misbehaving, hardware problem?
What can I do? What should I do? How many of you are having this issue?
mencho said:
Hi. I'm having a problem. The wifi is draining my battery. My battery will only last about 4 hours of screen on time.
I've already check the power option of disabling wifi when the screen is off. Wifi drains at least 40%of the charge.
I've read other forums but nobody has an answer just yet. I really like this tablet, but it makes me mad just having 4 hours of battery.
Driver problem, an app misbehaving, hardware problem?
What can I do? What should I do? How many of you are having this issue?
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Depending on your usage, it is indeed possible to drain battery 3-4 hours. I myself never had that situation but for those who played highly CPU/GPU intensive game along with WIFI had that issue. I usually had 5-6 hours on my routine use which to me seems was not much.
So couple things I believe you should look into.
1. How is your monitor brightness?
2. What applications are you running? e.g. are you downloading on background with playing some game foreground?
Those sort of basic things. To identify whether the WIFI is actual issue or not, one thing you can do is simply turn off the WIFI and do whatever you need for couple hours and see where you at in your battery. If you have 50% drained in couple hours without WIFI on, clearly WIFI is not the issue but if you suddenly get only 20% battery drain from WIFI off, it is indeed the WIFI.
If WIFI is indeed the issue and perhaps you can try Juice Defender but it will only save battery if you are not using WIFI all the time.
For detail, please refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636.
One last thing is obvious, but battery save mode rather than balance mode gave me extra couple hours without sacrifice in my foreground application performance; however, I did notice main screen page swiping or application launch animation weren't as smooth. Almost felt like back to my old Galaxy 10.1 tablet on Honeycomb.
There is actually a bug that makes your battery overview show the percentage of wifi on time as percentage of wifi battery consumption:
-> wifi on 80% of time > shows 80% of power consumption from wifi.
How long do you have your device ?
When i first got it I also thought that the battery time was bad but now ( i have had it for about a week) i get battery drain of 10% / hr while surfing and 14-18 %/hr while streaming video over wifi and 0,5-1% / hr while standby with wifi and sync on.
I have the brightness on manual contorl and when i watch video i change the performance to eco setting.
Hi, thank you for your responses..... This is an update of what is going on.
I am already on firmware. 26, but had the problems since fw. 22
Yesterday I did a factory reset to rule out some mysterious app. The battery issue continued under wifi.
Wifi was still draining between 40 and 50% of the battery. Completely drained in about 4 hours of browsing time in balanced mode and about 40% screen brightness.
I just did another test. I played 2 movies with the wifi off. After 4 hours of screen on time the battery fell to 66%. So the tablet have enough battery juice for 12 back to back movies. That's great, I can rule out the battery.
So far I can confirm that the battery is draining extremely fast with wifi and is not a big showing erroneous battery drain.
4 hours of browsing tine is a joke for a tablet...
Any other things you think I can try?
For how long have you had it? No matter what people say, the calibration algorithms for these kinds of batteries still need several cycles of charging and discharging before they can actually read out any battery level accurately. I easily go for far longer than that on my device -- not that that fact helps you out, I know -- but I thought battery life was worse in he beginning as well. I guess it just needs to settle down a bit. Give it a week.
EIDT: Oh, and....eeehmmmmm.... do not believe the standard Android battery tool. Get yer mitts on BetterBatteryStats and get a few cycles on it, check the readouts and then report back in.
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Thanks. I've already installed better battery stats.. While Web browsing battery drains up to 30%/h. I know is too soon to get to a conclusion. I will keep you post it.
Hope there is some firmware update that will fix this. This is Asus 5th tablet (transformer, prime, slider, tf300) I don't want a beta product!
Sorry about the whining, I know that you guys are helping me..
Battery life is really bad on this we need the motley kernel and some custom rooms soon !!!
I am running this tablet on performance and it is still very slow ccompared to my prime I hoped I can wait for the custom rooms and kernels before I sell this tablet i know i am very impatient
i have a tf700 too and have the same problem on wifi I love this tablet, i think we need to find a fix. Hope to hear from some of the smart people on this forum.
The reason for the low battery is this; Asus did not put a larger battery in Infinity compared to Prime.
Both devices have the exact same battery, but since Infinity runs at a higher clock speed and has a higher resolution screen, it drains the battery much much faster.
You can't really fix this with software. You can however lower the voltage with a custom kernel, making slightly improvement....but that'll also make the device unstable.
Just to let you guys know, i have assigned a fixed ip address for my Tf700 and the wifi drain seems to have decreased. I won't rely on the native android battery monitor (mine still says 85% battery drain by wifi). But i have noticed much less actually drain/hour when using wifi with a fixed ip address than not. YMMV.

Galaxy Tab 2 running much Hotter after update?

My Galaxy Tab 2 seem to be running much much hotter after the latest update (Build IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5).
I noticed it getting a little warmer over the past few days on the left side since the update. I have also noticed that my wireless signal had gotten better so I thought maybe they had increased the wireless radio's broadcast strength with the update and that was what was causing it.
Today after using it for about hr I noticed the temperature had climbed to 108f I am really not sure if that's normal or high.
Just some basics on what I was doing and all that
Watching Tv show
Playing on the Internet
Its in a but has plenty of cutouts
The room I was in was around 75-78 degree's
I have the Power Saving Disabled
Screen turned up to 100% (for viewing the Tv Show)
GPS was disabled
Notifications where on
Battery was between 54-18%
Thanks guys for all your help in this issue
Edit
Just wanted to add I am pretty new to the tablet world so this might be completely normal and I just don't know it. The only thing I have to compare it with is my Kindle Fire (my first tablet). That thing either has a broken sensor or is designed extremely well. I never seen it get over 88 degree's even after heavy use for over 1hr.

[Q] Weak Battery

Hello,
I'm new here and have a quest about my new tablet
I bought the Transformer Pad Infinit a few days ago and I think that I could use the battery for 9 hours more or less.
But my battery is extremely weak, I just use this 3 or 4 hours with the GPS off and bluetooth off too. The wi-fi is just on in the half of this time, and waht I do in this time is play some games and use the internet. I use the "Energy Economy" mode all this time and the light of the screen is in 20%.
I guess my battery is more weak than others... What can I do to "fix" it?
I would to say "thanks" for everyone, and I'm sorry by my english, I don't know english so well
The battery in your Infinity may be not charging to 100%.
I don't get 9 hours with moderate use...I see around 6 hours.
My wifi and GPS are always on and the screen is about 30%.
The batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" meaning: they should be able to be charged over and over from any discharge level back to a full charge.
There also might be something running in the background that is taking down your battery charge.
Have you browsed the battery saving tips in the stickies here in the TF700T forums?
Is your Infinity the LTE version by any chance?
Some info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30223933&postcount=2
Thats OK said:
The battery in your Infinity may be not charging to 100%.
I don't get 9 hours with moderate use...I see around 6 hours.
My wifi and GPS are always on and the screen is about 30%.
The batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" meaning: they should be able to be charged over and over from any discharge level back to a full charge.
There also might be something running in the background that is taking down your battery charge.
Have browsed the battery saving tips in the stickies here in the TF700T forums?
Is your Infinity the LTE version by any chance?
Some info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30223933&postcount=2
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First: Thanks
I search in the internet and I found that the Li-Ion batteries have to charge arround 30%~50%. I do it much times.
I was using a animed wallpapers and I change it by a normal wallpapers. I guess this make some efecty
I search here in the forum too, things about the battery saving, I found somethings that can be helpful, but no "so beautiful"
I don't have the LTE version, I guess nobody have it, Asus is so stupid when we talk about "3G/4G"
I don't know why, but mysteriously, the tablet use about 600mb of RAM and also nothing is running, just the things of the systen.
I guess it's strange, maybe that interfere in the battery life no? But how can I "fix" it? SImply have notthing running and 600mb of RAM are in use.
Thanks again, and again: sorry by my english
Otobone said:
First: Thanks
I was using a animed wallpapers and I change it by a normal wallpapers. I guess this make some efecty
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Yes, animated wallpapers definitely use more battery than static ones.
Otobone said:
I don't know why, but mysteriously, the tablet use about 600mb of RAM and also nothing is running, just the things of the systen.
I guess it's strange, maybe that interfere in the battery life no? But how can I "fix" it? SImply have notthing running and 600mb of RAM are in use.
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That's OK. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, and unused RAM uses exactly the same amount of battery as used RAM, so no need to fix anything here. Interesting for battery use is CPU utilization by running processes.
I have to admit the battery life is not brilliant on this tablet. It very much depends on the usage, this wasn't really the case with previous LEAST powerful galaxy tab 8.9. Even during playing games it easily lasted 8-9 hours.
Worst infinity battery times observed ( balanced mode, brightens < 30% )
- playing hard core 3d games, like dead tigger, battery dead in 3-4 hours
- playing less intensive games, battery dead in 5-6 hours
- browsing battery dead in 7-8 hours.
- watching movies, battery dead in 8-9 hours.
so anything between 3-9 hours can be normal with infinity. I cannot even imaging battery life in performance mode, IPS+ full brightens
I was with fear, 'cause for a moment thought that my battery was the only one that is "not so beautiful" But I saw that is not a problem with my tablet and yes with this model.
I'm Brazilian, here the Asus is a perfect nothing. Here we have just the TF101 who comes with 1 year delayed. So I buy the tablet in other country and I don't have warrancy, if my battery was with some problem I don't know what I would.
Here if I call to Asus they would hit the phone in my face before I can say "Transformer"
Otobone said:
I was with fear, 'cause for a moment thought that my battery was the only one that is "not so beautiful" But I saw that is not a problem with my tablet and yes with this model.
I'm Brazilian, here the Asus is a perfect nothing. Here we have just the TF101 who comes with 1 year delayed. So I buy the tablet in other country and I don't have warrancy, if my battery was with some problem I don't know what I would.
Here if I call to Asus they would hit the phone in my face before I can say "Transformer"
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Ummm...
So you ... own the Asus Infinity TF700T?...or the TF201?
...don't get hit in the face please!...especially with a phone...maybe a small phone wouldn't hurt a lot.
I hope your face doesn't get hit though...
God I love Google Translate... :laugh:
Asus very clearly says "Battery life tested under power saving mode, playing 720p video playback, Brightness:100nits, default volume with headphones." on their website. If you try something else, you'll get different results. Basic scientific fact.
Also, I can't stress this enough: Kill off all bloatware! No you don't need to root the tablet for it (most of it, anyway.) The more processes you run in the background, the more power they consume. Simple as that.
And WiFi EATS battery like you wouldn't believe. It's so horrible it's not even funny. The WiFi unit is very powerful, which is why it eats so much. So yes, using WiFi will eat your battery.
andoid uses RAM differently than Windows. Forget how it works there. Android reserves RAM for processes, even when they're not in use.
Could be the Google Location bug? there's info on that here somewhere too.
Go to settings --> Battery and see what uses the most percentage.

[Q] Strange battery life issue - screen using 130%?

I took my Shield Tablet (stock 5.0/rooted) off the charger at around 8 am today starting at 100% (charged while completely off), and at 11am I noticed it was at 49%. I'd only done some mild gaming (Terra Battle), and Comixology reading, so it struck me as a little low, but what confused me more was the battery stats page. Screen shows at 130%, System at 10% and everything else in single digits.
Anyone know what's going on here and how to fix it? I've rebooted and will be watching out for whether it happens again, but would be happy about feedback from anyone who's experienced a similar issue. Thanks in Advance!
Since you are rooted you should use an app like Better Battery Stats to log what is going on.
This way you can identify which app is causing the drain and take measures to prevent it.
Known cause in quite some cases is Facebook after applying the ota to 5.0.
Solution is to remove the facebook app, do a factory reset and install the app fresh from playstore.
Thanks for the reply. I don't and never had the Facebook app installed (shocking, I know ) so that can't be the issue.
I've installed Better Battery Stats so I'll see if I can figure anything out through it...
My guess is that the screen has used 130% of the batteries capacity. If you look at the bottom of the graph it says stats since last full charge. I gave my niece my old first gen nexus 7 with lollipop and a few days later looked at the battery stats. Her screen was listed as 160%. It hadn't been fully charged since I gave it to her. The screen brightness was maxed out and she tends to leave it on the ground with a video playing. The screen obviously uses a lot of power so its not hard to imagine it was over 1.5 times the batteries capacity.

Question Fix for Overheating??

I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
CYB3R0ID694 said:
I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
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When my Pixel 4 XL overheated, it was usually because I was charging and playing games on it at the same time. If it gets hot, then I would reboot it or leave it powered off for a minute. Could that be the case here?
Also, this is a new phone and you just installed a bunch of apps. My guess is that Android is likely evaluating and learning your habits so that it can optimize your battery and other stuff -- so there's alot of internal processing going on causing it to warm up.
Also, if you live in a city where the weather is warm or hot, then that'll make your phone warm or hot as well. So far, my 6a hasn't stayed warm very long except when I was transferring over/installing all my apps ... and it hasn't gotten hot yet.
The phone does get very warm, but it is also the middle of summer and we just set everything up. Tensor is also known for running on the toasty side. Unless your phone is warning you about excessive heat, it is within normal parameters.
it runs definitely warmer than a pixel 4 doing the same stuff.
I have sensor genius installed so it's logging temp 24/7. please do the same and let's share the graphs.
Mine is running substantially cooler using LTE rather than 5g, hopefully this is fixed through software updates.
I also put mine in LTE mode and it's much cooler. 5G is a bit overkill for mobile stuff at least for me, I just turn it on when using hotspot.
Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
ctfrommn said:
Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
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Another option to try is Disable Adaptive Battery, Disable 5G(If not necessary)..
I wouldn't worry too much. I absolutely assassinated my Pixel 3a XL. It was always hot. For couple of years. Huge amounts of onscreen time. Leaving it under blankets while charging on accident etc etc... Thing was fine. Also, a battery is only $12 and these pixels the easiest phones to open if you do somehow end up with severely reduced battery life couple years down the road
It's more the insane battery drain that goes along with the heat then the heat itself.
May be a CPU usage app that tracks what's taking up so much processor power.
My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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Same. As in my country there is no 5G yet, I've changed to LTE preferred and phone is not hot anymore and battery doesn't drain.
It'd maybe gimp the overall performance some but u could try under-clocking your CPUs with FKM or EXKM while u track down the issue. (that is, if your bootloader is unlocked...in which case u could use BBS to track battery usage)

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