Marshmallow approval? - X Style (Pure) General

www.droid-life.com/2015/11/12/moto-x-pure-edition-marshmallow-update/
It sounds like the update is currently rolling out to Brazil and India, but waiting for "approval" in the US. Without US carrier variants, who needs to approve the update?

Not totally sure but in the US considering the update is supposed to include LTE Band 12 I would say the FCC.

I think they said google needed to approve it. Google has more conditions for the play store on marshmallow. No interference of doze, app standby, or app permissions from the oems.
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Check this out, Its from HTC, but shouldnt be much different than the hoops Moto has to jump through as well.
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/htc-update-infographic.jpg

Teksu said:
Check this out, Its from HTC, but shouldnt be much different than the hoops Moto has to jump through as well.
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/htc-update-infographic.jpg
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Definitely a lot different than HTC, since HTC has their own Sense to go on top of Android and since HTC needs to work with providers.

Yes owners of the xt1572 will more than likely get marshmellow a week or two earlier than xt1575 devices. Only difference being xt1572 has 2 different varients while the XT1575 has one varient and different signals then the xt1572's

FCC needs to approve it. Oneplus update were always delay because of this.

RemnantKing2 said:
Definitely a lot different than HTC, since HTC has their own Sense to go on top of Android and since HTC needs to work with providers.
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If you look at the infographic you'll see the path labeled "U" is for Developer and unlocked devices(which the Pure falls under), and while the Pure may not have to bow to providers(which the U path omits), they are required to submit their update back to google and industry regulators for approval.
but sure, the lack of sense should totally alter the path of an os update from code release to your device... [/s]

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What Samsung ruined.

Does any body think that if Samsung had been on time with updates such as 2.2 and gotten us up to speed at a decent time that we would still be considered an elite phone instead of one just lagging behind?
IMO, the captivate is still elite I love my captivate, even running 100% stock. My friends with iPhone4's even love my captivate.
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IMO, the captivate is still elite I love my captivate, even running 100% stock. My friends with iPhone4's even love my captivate.
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How about in 2 months with the nexus s and galaxy s 2 coming out we will probably be stuck at 2.1 forever?
This phone can stand toe to toe with any phone on the market, what are you talking about??
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This phone can stand toe to toe with any phone on the market, what are you talking about??
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I am talking about how we will most likely never get 2.3, and then get left behind in the dust.
jgr208 said:
How about in 2 months with the nexus s and galaxy s 2 coming out we will probably be stuck at 2.1 forever?
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If the Nexus S turns out to be a Captivate++ with Stock Gingerbread, I am so buying that phone.
Otherwise, with custom ROMs and such we're doing okay.
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I am talking about how we will most likely never get 2.3, and then get left behind in the dust.
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It's called technology. It will happen to the newly released phones as well. If the phone you have still serves its purpose, then why worry about the next generation? Having something simply because it has higher numbers and is "new" or "revolutionary" is just being foolish and listening to a marketing department. Buy something new because what you have is not allowing you to do something.
I am talking about 2.3 and eventually 3.0 not the phones in general, just us never getting up graded to the next OS.
All things aside I do think its bull**** that they can't roll out 2.2. I mean look at the complexities and flexibilities of the android os, I'm pretty sure if they really wanted to they could roll it out to us. But no they're just a bunch of assholes and....nvm /rage
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Samsung has given all the Carriers the froyo builds to push to the phones. Its the Carriers that are taking this long to push it not Samsung...
Place your angry comments at which carrier you are on.
wade7919 said:
Samsung has given all the Carriers the froyo builds to push to the phones. Its the Carriers that are taking this long to push it not Samsung...
Place your angry comments at which carrier you are on.
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It could have been pushed to the carriers in September in which case we would for sure have gotten it this or last week.
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I am talking about how we will most likely never get 2.3, and then get left behind in the dust.
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What's this based on? Source?
I was under the impression that Samsung has released 2.2 and we're waiting on AT&T.
Is this true or are we waiting for Samsung to get it put together?
Mike
I don't understand why our phones need to be updated through the CARRIER? Makes absolutely zero sense. Here we are updating our phones ourselves using other methods, why not roll it out in a way that DOESNT use att? makes no sense.
I mean u got the ****ing 2.2 build in your hands Google, give it to us yourself! Its an update! Its not like we gotta wait for at&t to roll out updates for our apps and **** right? Ugh x 9999
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ninjuh said:
I don't understand why our phones need to be updated through the CARRIER? Makes absolutely zero sense. Here we are updating our phones ourselves using other methods, why not roll it out in a way that DOESNT use att? makes no sense.
I mean u got the ****ing 2.2 build in your hands Google, give it to us yourself! Its an update! Its not like we gotta wait for at&t to roll out updates for our apps and **** right? Ugh x 9999
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It makes sense because the Captivate was built for AT&T and Samsung and AT&T have a contract that stipulates that the carrier approves the updates and tests them prior to deployment.
If you don't want that situation, then you need to buy a carrier free phone - like the i9000 that was sold unlocked from Expansys and other sites.
If you buy an AT&T (or any other carrier branded phone) then you are stuck waiting for carrier approval. This is true with any brand of phone - Moto, HTC, etc. don't release updates until approved by the carrier.
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It makes sense because the Captivate was built for AT&T and Samsung and AT&T have a contract that stipulates that the carrier approves the updates and tests them prior to deployment.
If you don't want that situation, then you need to buy a carrier free phone - like the i9000 that was sold unlocked from Expansys and other sites.
If you buy an AT&T (or any other carrier branded phone) then you are stuck waiting for carrier approval. This is true with any brand of phone - Moto, HTC, etc. don't release updates until approved by the carrier.
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You're probably right, but I don't think so.
For all we know, the devs of these 2.2 roms work for Google and its just an under the table way of delivering what they know is lacking. Oh what now son oh!
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If you buy an AT&T (or any other carrier branded phone) then you are stuck waiting for carrier approval. This is true with any brand of phone - Moto, HTC, etc. don't release updates until approved by the carrier.
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With the only exception maybe being the iPhone. Which I find that I miss more than the abundance of apps, is the timely updates from Apple.
alphadog00 said:
If you buy an AT&T (or any other carrier branded phone) then you are stuck waiting for carrier approval. This is true with any brand of phone - Moto, HTC, etc. don't release updates until approved by the carrier.
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Three Words: Windows. Phone. 7.
Wow, what a bunch of whining. If you arent savvy enough to install any one of the MANY 2.2 roms out there, why are you complaining that newer, more complicated phones will leave this one in the dust?
Anyways, I think official 2.2 rolls out soon, just got a text from ATT saying an update will be pushed to my phone. Also, this phone has the minimum specs for android 3.0, from what Ive read, so I dont see why you think we wont be seeing android 3.0. With the way we are modifying roms and kernels right now, even if we didnt get an official 3.0 update, Im sure we would be able to at least port it. These phones are monsters, this thing has better specs than my laptop I got 5 years ago that was about 8X the price.
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Wow, what a bunch of whining. If you arent savvy enough to install any one of the MANY 2.2 roms out there, why are you complaining that newer, more complicated phones will leave this one in the dust?
Anyways, I think official 2.2 rolls out soon, just got a text from ATT saying an update will be pushed to my phone. Also, this phone has the minimum specs for android 3.0, from what Ive read, so I dont see why you think we wont be seeing android 3.0. With the way we are modifying roms and kernels right now, even if we didnt get an official 3.0 update, Im sure we would be able to at least port it. These phones are monsters, this thing has better specs than my laptop I got 5 years ago that was about 8X the price.
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What did the text say? Sounds like you got a JI7 update message, especially if you are already running a 2.2 variant.
All the other 2.2 updates from samsung have been done via Kies, so i doubt that will be pushed 2.2. As for current Roms, most are based on beta 2.2 builds, none are 100% perfect - not that Samsung will do much better
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Anyways, I think official 2.2 rolls out soon, just got a text from ATT saying an update will be pushed to my phone.
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Thanks for the laugh.
To the op, patience grasshopper. That and timely donations to the developers here.

Security related updates

I don't understand how Google, phone manufacturers, and carriers justify not releasing security related updates in a timely manner. We should not have to wait for bloat and custom UI to be added so that we can get updates to make sure our data is safe, especially if there is a known issue.
Would you accept this on your PC or Mac? Then why do we on our phones...
Not you fat Jesus
Tired of reading about android security issues all the time. Hope they managed to fix it once and for all.
This is very sad. I hope Google ever release a patch in an accessible form.
Google patched up the latest issue in less than a day from when it was reported. Know any other companies that efficient?
If you think you can be the first programmer to release perfectly secure software, then go ahead. You'll be a very rich man.
That was a day after they were called out. Who knows how long they actual knew of issue, it doesn't make world news at the first instance of someone finding that hole.
Hackers will always find holes just saying they need to be able to plug them efficiently. You can't say that they can right now because of the mfg and carriers grip on update releases. Google has no way to bypass that if they can't fix the problem on their end.
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I don't fault Google nearly as much as the phone manufacturers and carriers, evidence by Nexus line of phones and their updates, but Google bought into this distribution structure and it wont change with out them forcing some changes.
Maybe they force each carrier to offer a Nexus line of phone for those of us that want security and patches as they become available.
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They fixed it on there end tho from my understanding
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This is all just a bunch of media frenzied crap...
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Wow...amazing
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If it was just up to Google we would have the update, the carriers are at fault here.
Its the carriers that take forever and a day to release the updates for their customers.
Call them and complain see what they tell you, they will give you a look similar to a deer caught in the headlights stare over the phone or put you on hold so you can talk to someone who has about as much knowledge about my SGS as my 3yo does.
Edit: YES AT&T I am talking about you !
It'd be nice if Google just sold Android phones themselves with the same price as the carrier would sell them for on or off contract.
Google for a carrier.
That is what Nexus line was suppose to be but isn't very successful when your main carrier in US is one of the smaller ones and isn't even an option due to lack of coverage for a number of potential customers
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00negative said:
That is what Nexus line was suppose to be but isn't very successful when your main carrier in US is one of the smaller ones and isn't even an option due to lack of coverage for a number of potential customers
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There were 2 Nexus versions: one for T-Mobile bands and one for AT&T bands!
well thanks of your nice post
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There were 2 Nexus versions: one for T-Mobile bands and one for AT&T bands!
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Google was suppose to sell them via there own online store. And the first one only had TMobile bands, I believe, where are the CDMA phones?
Besides go ask iPhone users about that stellar ATT coverage.
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Google's Android Update Alliance Is Already Dead?

Interesting article, in my opinion I think it's true.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397729,00.asp
Wow, that's an excellent article, and it seems to be very true.
Haha I sensed the sarcasm! Ofcourse it's true, what I meant was I should have known this about the vendors and their "promises".
I think that the updates are currently the most problematic thing in Android eco-system. Carriers just don't give a sh*** - have an old phone, come to us and buy one, have a long contract, well that's too bad. I just wish smartphone vendors would release all the drivers for their devices and let the community handle all the updates.
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I think that the updates are currently the most problematic thing in Android eco-system. Carriers just don't give a sh*** - have an old phone, come to us and buy one, have a long contract, well that's too bad. I just wish smartphone vendors would release all the drivers for their devices and let the community handle all the updates.
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Well it is not just the phone manufacturer as they would need to get the OK from others as well. They don't use their own hardware for things like radio, bt, screen ect.
Does this really surprise anyone? The carriers and the manufacturers both make money from abandoning old phones and selling new ones. The only way that Android is going to have a consistant upgrade schedule is if someone who doesn't profit (Google?) makes the ground rules. If the manufacturers want to licence it then they need to follow the rules. If they use the AOSP code then they have to release code under its terms.
people need to call out google and push them to be competent
I'm at the point where I'm just completely Nexus, I dont even want to get near another OEM and their bloat, custom frameworks, etc... Go the way of the Nexus. Its a great thing to do.
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people need to call out google and push them to be competent
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And do what? They have no control over it once they sign the contract and if they don't carriers don't carry the phone. Then it goes the way of the Nexus 1.
Oh come on, things are way better now than ever. Have you seen the near endless list of devices getting ICS?
I still remember when phones never even got an update in their lifetime.
But you can always buy smart and get the updates from the hard core XDA developers who never seem to fail to deliver.
Lars
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wire103 said:
Oh come on, things are way better now than ever. Have you seen the near endless list of devices getting ICS?
I still remember when phones never even got an update in their lifetime.
But you can always buy smart and get the updates from the hard core XDA developers who never seem to fail to deliver.
Lars
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Just because the OEM says it will be releasing it at least in the US it is still the carriers call. Take a look at the inspire. HTC released a new buld for the device but ATT refuses to release one for the inspire
Nexus phones seem to be the way to go.
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Just because the OEM says it will be releasing it at least in the US it is still the carriers call. Take a look at the inspire. HTC released a new buld for the device but ATT refuses to release one for the inspire
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Can't Americans download open versions like europe?
Dave
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Can't Americans download open versions like europe?
Dave
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No the The US versions have some minor diffs that the Euro versions do not. We dont get updates from the OEMs. Carriers control it all. ITs either carrier or custom rom ported for our devices
My phone never got Froyo over the air. It didn't even get a 2.2.1 update. As for GB we had to port it from the i9000 (i have a vibrant).Same with ICS. It really sucks, because batterylife is not as great as it could be. Android will probably never be released to all devices at once and my understanding is that the "GOOGLE" line of phones gets full support for atleast 2 years.
As for now, who wants upgrades should buy Google Nexus phones (not Motorola).
I take my hat off to Sony, they are excellent (but not perfect because of Xperia Play).

JB update (RELEASE)

Someone knows when is the release ofJB firmware for the hox att
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November 2013
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November 2013
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AT&T specifically never promised anything. That was when it was supposed to be delivered to one of the carriers. How did you post that when it's now December and there isn't anything yet is puzzling.
NJGSII said:
AT&T specifically never promised anything. That was when it was supposed to be delivered to one of the carriers. How did you post that when it's now December and there isn't anything yet is puzzling.
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Read the year again
Lol I swear this is like the 10th thread on this topic
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Nobody knows this lol good god people its releases when you're able to download it
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You know not the hour nor the day.
Actually I believe it may be. I have an update waiting in que & have heard from two sources, one that works for the big H, & heard that the JB rom is starting to roll out. I have not had time yet this morning to DL & pull the update, but I believe it just started rolling out this morning.
I plan on taking a look at the OTA that I have in que over lunch & will report back.
Updates on Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) and Frequently Asked Questions
We're looking forward to providing our HTC One X and HTC One S customers with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) along with our latest version of HTC Sense. As with any software upgrade, we work closely with our carrier partners to ensure we deliver the best experience possible on our devices.
After internal testing, we test the software on live networks in order to confirm the experience matches our expectations, and carrier expectations, for performance, connectivity and platform stability. While testing takes time, we're working quickly with our carrier partners to rollout these updates. We'll provide information on availability once the software is ready for release.
When will additional devices receive Android 4.1?
In addition to the HTC One X and HTC One S, we are actively reviewing our product portfolio to identify candidates to receive Jelly Bean. Our goal is to prioritize review for devices launched in 2012 with our numerous carrier partners across multiple regions and then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
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There are many aspects to the software development process that make it difficult for us to give specifics on upgrade timing. As a global company, we work with a number of carrier partners in various regions to ensure a great user experience with every upgrade. Each region and carrier partner has unique requirements that necessitate customized testing. Only after HTC and its partners have successfully completed the final testing will the software be released.
What devices will not get Android 4.1?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB RAM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.1. At present, these devices include the HTC One V and the HTC Desire C. As we identify other devices that will not be upgraded, we'll provide updated information.
It should be noted that upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.1 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support.
What about a development version of Android 4.1?
For our developer community, we plan to make generic development ROMs of Jelly Bean available for both the HTC One X and HTC One S. As soon as the ROMs are ready, they will be posted to our HTCdev site (www.htcdev.com). We strongly recommend customers take the time to understand the limitations of the development software along with the terms and conditions on the site before downloading to their device.
My phone hasn't gotten the Android 4.1 update, while others with the same device have. Why?
Our devices are available on a wide variety of carriers and across many countries, due to localization, testing, and partner approvals, updates do not roll out to all devices with the same name at the same time.
Even once a software update begins to roll out from HTC or a carrier partner, the update can take up to 45 days from the initial push to reach each person with that device on a given network.
If your phone has not received the update after the 45-day period, navigate to Settings > About > Software Updates to have your device manually check for updates. If your device still does not show an update, please contact customer support
Why does it take so long to release an update?
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What version of HTC Sense will come with the Android 4.1 update?
The upgrade to Android 4.1 will include HTC Sense 4+.
Its coming out on 12-21-2012. Too bad we won't be able to update...
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ethantarheels123 said:
Its coming out on 12-21-2012. Too bad we won't be able to update...
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Link?
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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Doh. I deserve that, I think. lol
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Doh. I deserve that, I think. lol
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Ya, I had to read it twice to actually get it. The part when he said "to bad we wont be able to update ", and then i linked December 21 2012 together to the date Mayans predicted something would happen. At first it got took out of proportion to the world ending but they proved that mayan calendar was not the same as ours or something. But yeah you got trolled by ethantarheels123 hehe.
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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Haven't looked too far into it cause I don't care.. but one of my friends said it could possibly be the start of a new age.
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Pure to get N

https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
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Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!
Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
aybarrap1 said:
There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.
skinnykinney said:
https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
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That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.
I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:
i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?
Zekial said:
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.
The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
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