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Just tried the New Sprint Echo - Don't Bother.

Wow, complete fail. I knew I had my doubts about anything made by Kyocera, but I was not prepared for utter cheapness and ugliness of this device. And the screen quality - don't get me started. I felt like I was looking at a Blackberry from 2005.
The dual screen concept is nice and probably will be improved over time. But this first trip out of the barn really is a mule with a broken leg and a bad case of the mange.
If you were tempted to use your EVO trade-up for this device, save your time and money and wait for the EVO 3D.

Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list

I was looking at this phone when I realized my 2 year was up on April 1st. It seemed interesting but I just knew there wouldn't be any app support for it. I have read a few reviews saying that the hinge, although goofy, is surprisingly strong.
I was going to just wait until the Evo 3D came out and not even get the Evo, but I caved. In a way I'm glad I did though, I have it all rooted and installed C7 on it with Tiamat 3.5.7. I used these forums to customize my hero as well.

Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Dual screen cellphones are a great idea. I personally feel they may be the wave of the future just like multimonitor computer setups are so popular now. However, this phone is little more than proof of concept. Sprint will take a bath on this.
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Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I have not had a chance to handle one yet, but the looks alone told me it was gonna be el cheapo. Kind of a shame really. The concept is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to last because of the introduction of flexible LED displays in the near future. Much better if you don't have to have a seam in the middle of your display!

Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...

nohbdyshero said:
Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.

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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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I know some people like the Moto's but I forgot about Samsung and them at the last minute. I'm just glad I didn't forget all together I would have been flammed all over the place

I demo'd this phone in store today, also. Sprint tech was "watching TV" on it at the front counter. Played with it for five minutes:
Hinge has an addicting snap sound to it, as is the whole process of folding/unfolding the phone. Even having a 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone was still laggy (opening apps, scrolling through the drawer). As we all figured, besides the Sprint bloatware, this phone is pretty much AOSP--I don't believe Kyocera ever threw in their own frontend.
Rep was running Sprint TV for roughly twenty minutes, and battery was already down to 78%! Battery percentage indicator is stock, at least. LOL! Kyocera has thrown in an extra battery in the package for a reason.
Screens by themselves are SMALL! We know the specs, but looking at the screen IRL leaves MUCH to be desired. All in all, it's a novelty, at best. You're not getting anything practical out of a dual screen phone unless you ABSOLUTELY need to shave MILLISECONDS off of your time. This phone is a miss for me, which sucks, because I was looking forward to it because my phone upgrade is due in July. EVO 3D, here I come.

My oldest son was buying his finacee an evo while my youngest son and I played the echo...I asked the manager how many they have sold and he said no a one...That was 1:34 pm today.
Within 3 minutes of playing with the echo I was blah....
Picture of my son playing with the echo today.
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Critical battery, guess it's been 2 hours, time to change to the other battery :/...

I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.

A couple other thoughts -
I have mostly used it with apps full screen in tablet mode, and it has worked beautifully for nearly everything I have tried, including apps like Pulse reader.
Simultask works well also, although I haven't found myself using it that much. Was cool when I saw some mails coming in and I was browsing the web, I brought the mail client into one of the screens and continued to browse as I was reviewing mail. Also it's great how the mail client uses both screens to list mail on one screen and review on another.
Camera app is awesome with how it uses both screens.
Pretty much vanilla android 2.2 all the way around. Very nice in that regard.

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DomSim said:
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Actually, I am good at helping people. Perhaps that is why I have 420 thank-you's compared to your 23. If you spent less time attacking me and more time learning enough about Android where you could assist others, maybe you won't look so foolish by comparison next time?

mhoepfin said:
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
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As with any phone, it is a matter of taste. For those who are more into utility and care less about aesthetics, this phone is probably fine. However, I am surprised you don't notice that the image quality on the screen is far inferior to the EVO? Like I said, I am a big fan of THIS IDEA, I'm just not a fan of this phone. Seems more like a proof-of-concept than a finished product.
Glad you like your Echo

Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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totally agree....... +1

DomSim said:
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Oh ****! Hahahahaha
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Not surprising one bit. This was the last time I ever purchased anything from Kyocera. The lens cover decide to close when you turn the power ON and open when you turn the power OFF...after 2wks of pampering.

my local Verizon's big RAZR launch

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as you can see from the enormous line, the phone is total win.
this was taken 10 minutes before they opened.
p.s. that lady just wanted a new battery for her phone and was upset that the store was still closed.

oh man.....

Heh this makes me laugh. I was pissed this morning when I had to head down to the VZW store to get a battery for a work colleague. I was expecting to have to wait forever. They had all these roped off areas with red carpet laid down and not one person standing in line.

I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.

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I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.
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we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.

voxigenboy said:
we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.
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Finally figured that out eh? About time you stopped pushing that one was superior over the other.

Noob Question
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?

tazz5150 said:
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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Nice phone except for the locked and encrypted bootloader, and the non-removable battery. Have fun with your Moto iPhone.

Oh goody kevlar reinforced iphone p.o.s.
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tazz5150 said:
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.

nrfitchett4 said:
the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.
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heh.. the Best Buy Mobile in the mall here had 'dummy' RAZR & Rezound phones on display. They said they have Rezounds in stock, but have yet to receive any RAZR's.

reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.

Yeah I don't particularly care for the RAZR (or any Motorola products). That being said, I got to play with the RAZR and it was okay. The screen sounds bad on paper, but in person, its not the end of the world. Screen was passable, still totally usable. My store actually sold just 1 RAZR, but it was a more of a swap than a return. Haha.
But then I got to play with the Galaxy Nexus and that screen was muchhhh nicer. ICS was all flashy, and to be quite honest, a bit confusing, but I guess that's expected since a lot has changed.
Also played with the Rezound and I very much liked that phone. Screen was also beautiful, and still quality HTC build materials.
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reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.
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The first T-Mobile store that I went to had a live demo sitting behind the counter. I got to play with it while they activated my HD7. This was a week before the actual release day too. But yes, I agree, having phones out helps to sell them.

I entered the 11/11/11 sweepstakes on Verizon's Twitter and i won a free Droid Razr, nice! I will be giving it to my wife maybe of she performs ( insert lude sex act here ) for a ( insert a crazy lenght of time here ) I wish it came a few days back I mean come on I just bought her a phone off ebay for 100 bucks.
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[Mini-Review/First Take] Pebble on my Nexus 4

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Got my Pebble finally on Friday and have been running it through it's paces. And I have to admit, I really like it a lot! I had a bad taste from the first gen Sony Smartwatch that suffered from the disconnect issues and did not work well at all. Now with the Pebble, I have to love smartwatches again! The emails, sms, and music track controls are spot on.
The only negative at this point is that the Pebble is at it's infancy in it's product release and all I can see is good things happening if they let it.
As for the look, it needs a little help in my opinion. It needs a wider band. There is a kickstarter to create them as we speak but that means it's not available yet. I need to shop around for different 22mm bands that fit. Oh well lol...
Before matte black gadgetskins and screen protector:
Matte black

I can't wait to get my pebble
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I can't wait to get my pebble
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I just love functionality thus far. I NEED an extra cord for work! Well, not really, this e-paper display is great and I don't think needs much charging. I need to find a battery app for the Pebble now! LOL
Are you a backer as well? Or did you preorder?

I preordered, so who knows when I'll get mine...
How did it affect battery life of your n4?
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I preordered, so who knows when I'll get mine...
How did it affect battery life of your n4?
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A bit. Not too bad, but I do notice it. It is very slight. And I constantly use email and sms, use flipboard, reddit, and occasionally browse here and there. But for an hour and a half, constant connection and getting emails, the battery went down 4%.
But I also have wifi always on because I am either at work or home, and bt now on, with all the background syncs, that's pretty darn good in my book.
Also on your pre order. It also depends on when the last of the Kickstarter rewards will finally be sent out. Right now the reds are just being shipped. Next is the Orange and then White and finally Grey. IMO the black is the way to go and get a wrap to wrap it whatever color you want it. And also I recommend a screen proctor as well. I found myself scraping the watch time to time and if I hadn't installed the screen protector and skin wrap, it would have most likely scratched. So I think they will start shipping pre orders in two months from today. (Don't quote me!)

Added a Fossil Heirloom leather strap watch band. Not too thick IMO and I have skinny wrists! I love this band! On Amazon, you can find it for $30.
I think worth it 100%

kpjimmy said:
Added a Fossil Heirloom leather strap watch band. Not too thick IMO and I have skinny wrists! I love this band! On Amazon, you can find it for $30.
I think worth it 100%
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Ooooo thats nice
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I always thought the pebble looked funny with that stock skinny band. looks really nice with that aftermarket one.

wow, it looks good!!!
thanks for sharing.

That looks awesome. Great post!
Question,
What dyou think is like, a good advantage on having one of these?

ibarra21 said:
That looks awesome. Great post!
Question,
What dyou think is like, a good advantage on having one of these?
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Well, you have to understand what the Pebble does first off. Which is basically a notifier on your wrist. This works if one has the phone either on a charger or in your pocket. While driving or in a meeting; someplace where you can't see you phone and don't want to miss an important message or call. And controlling your music player is gravy IMO.
For me, the greatest advantage of this is when I have my phone charging and I am not near it. Second, is the ability to control my music from the Pebble.
And being e-paper display, the watch can go for a good while. I haven't tested it on how long but for the day, the watch reads 100%. I know it's not because when I put it on my charger, it starts charging, so I am guessing it's between 90-100.

I got one of these mofos too, getting text and emails on the watch is cool, and controlling my music through bluetooth to my car stereo is cool. Battery life could be better (5-6 days), and I wish notifications were persistent, they go away automatically after a while, I also wish you could pull up past notifications, and answer calls with it(you can only reject them so far). All in all a pretty cool thinger-ma-jig.

joenathane said:
I got one of these mofos too, getting text and emails on the watch is cool, and controlling my music through bluetooth to my car stereo is cool. Battery life could be better (5-6 days), and I wish notifications were persistent, they go away automatically after a while, I also wish you could pull up past notifications, and answer calls with it(you can only reject them so far). All in all a pretty cool thinger-ma-jig.
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Have you tried Augmented Smartwatch? There's a trial one to try out for 10 notifications to see if it works for you because the full version is like 6.5 bux.
The app is pretty cool and very detailed. There's a quiet time mode and notification history. Yes the notifs go away after a min or two, but I just get to the augmented smartwatch app, which takes over the music app btw, and get a list of notifications. I think it reads the past 5. I can revert to my music controller with a double click. It takes a learning curve to work it, but it works.
And why would you want to answer your phone? And how would you go about that? I mean you can probably code in an answer function, but I don't get how you would communicate with the watch where you would hit answer and the call be on speakerphone mode? I guess that would be the only way, no?
5-6 days on one charge with notifications all day? Is that the watchface you use? I have a bunch and created a few and settled on the Maurice "minutes" face. And the watch really only uses up juice when creating the notifications, so 5-6 days is pretty awesome for a device that is constantly on bt.

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Have you tried Augmented Smartwatch? There's a trial one to try out for 10 notifications to see if it works for you because the full version is like 6.5 bux.
The app is pretty cool and very detailed. There's a quiet time mode and notification history. Yes the notifs go away after a min or two, but I just get to the augmented smartwatch app, which takes over the music app btw, and get a list of notifications. I think it reads the past 5. I can revert to my music controller with a double click. It takes a learning curve to work it, but it works.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I bought Augmented Smartwatch a day or so after receiving the watch, it's a pretty complex app so I'm not sure that I am getting the full benefit of it's feature set.
And why would you want to answer your phone? And how would you go about that? I mean you can probably code in an answer function, but I don't get how you would communicate with the watch where you would hit answer and the call be on speakerphone mode? I guess that would be the only way, no?
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I would like to use the watch to answer the phone for times like when I am in the car, and the phone is docked on the windshield and connected via bluetooth to my car stereo that has a mic, I'd be able to just tap the button on the watch and answer the call.
5-6 days on one charge with notifications all day? Is that the watchface you use? I have a bunch and created a few and settled on the Maurice "minutes" face. And the watch really only uses up juice when creating the notifications, so 5-6 days is pretty awesome for a device that is constantly on bt.
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I was able to get the 5-6 days after the latest update and turning off the backlight turning on via the accelerometer, I think with true e-ink the watch would probably get much better battery life. I also use "Lama" to turn off Bluetooth on my phone after 9pm and turn it back on after 9am.
I found that watch face to be the most attractive and functional, it having the month and day on it.
Do you have a link to the watch faces you created? I'd like to check them out
Is the SDK easy to work with?
When playing music does your Pebble get out of sync with the currently playing track(mine does every once and a while)?
This would be my second favorite watch face

I've only uploaded one. And used a simple quick face generator to create a black Imperial/Empire logo with the time in the middle with the date on the bottom. The others are personal ones with pictures of my 4 yr old acting weird :silly:.
You can get a bunch of watchfaces from mypebblefaces.com (best to view from your phone to download) to check the different faces. I currently love the Maurice one. It's my fav.

Awesome!
Wonder when they will finally start shipping the pre-orders. Hopefully before iWatch, and Galaxy Watch hit the market.
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Oh and as for the music, yes it get's a bit mixed up, but I thought it was me being too impatient in pressing the buttons lol.

Looks great but how about we cook up a custom rom for the pebble?
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I'm thinking about a smart watch...
Cookoo watch is looks nicer to me:
http://www.connectedevice.com/cookoo-watch-black/
The price is so high.

reginickneo said:
I'm thinking about a smart watch...
Cookoo watch is looks nicer to me:
http://www.connectedevice.com/cookoo-watch-black/
The price is so high.
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I initially backed that when it was on kickstarter last year but I didn't like how it was shaping up so I backed out. Glad I did because they don't offer an Android version yet. The cookoo's only work on iPhones right now. There is a promise there will be an Android version soon, but no eta.
$129 isn't that bad. It's a little higher than the Sony Smartwatch and the Pebble is going to retail $150.

Buy From T-Mobile on 11/18/16 - $399

T-Mobile will begin selling the Gear S3 this Friday, 11/18. LTE version for $399 plus a $5 add on for data.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/11/15...e-from-t-mobile-starting-november-18-for-399/

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T-Mobile will begin selling the Gear S3 this Friday, 11/18. LTE version for $399 plus a $5 add on for data.
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Damn that's high - $50 above AT&T. AT&T's $10 a month to add it to a plan so I guess T-Mobile at $5 makes up for it over the long run. I got my AT&T Gear S3 for $49 because they allowed my S7 Edge to qualify as a "new Galaxy purchase" when I exchanged my second Note7 for it. T-Mobile's selling the Gear S2 Sport for $100 off making a year old watch $259. I guess T-Mobile doesn't want to sell a lot of watches.

I've a feeling T-Mobile will lower the price.
Other than being able to use the LTE version without the phone, are there any other perks I'm not seeing? I've already pre ordered the non LTE version and wondering if I may want to switch.

dkb218 said:
I've a feeling T-Mobile will lower the price.
Other than being able to use the LTE version without the phone, are there any other perks I'm not seeing? I've already pre ordered the non LTE version and wondering if I may want to switch.
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I've had either a 3G Gear S2 or S2 Classic since they were released. And a Gear S (only 3G) before that. There are times you don't want to have to carry your phone with you; especially a phablet. Like going to the clubs, working out, beach/pool, or when you need to leave your phone charging. With either auto-call forwarding or one number (AKA AT&T NumberSync) whatever you do on your phone (except taking pictures) is on your wrist. It's very liberating and, to me, worth $10 a month.
I got the IconX headphones and they solve the "not being one of those people having a speakerphone conversation on their wrist" problem. Their case is incredibly compact and easy to carry around in your pocket. For calls they operate in mono so you only need to put one in your ear. They're "auto on" so all you need to do is take it out of the case, put in year ear, and you're instantly connected. They turn off when they lose contact with your flesh. Very 21st century.

Intriguing. Thanks. I take it battery life takes a hit with the LTE version. Decisions.
Last Samsung watch I owned was the original Gear with the camera in the band. Still around here someplace but it no longer takes a charge.

dkb218 said:
Intriguing. Thanks. I take it battery life takes a hit with the LTE version. Decisions.
Last Samsung watch I owned was the original Gear with the camera in the band. Still around here someplace but it no longer takes a charge.
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I'm pretty sure it only takes a hit when you leave your phone. If you're going phoneless most of the day, then it may be an issue.

A little movement from T-Mobile. $416.67 month for 24 months works out to $10,000.08. What a bargain!!!
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I take it battery life takes a hit with the LTE version. Decisions.
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The SoC in the Gear S3 is far more advanced and efficient than those that preceded it.
Samsung Exynos 7 Dual (7270) is a dedicated processor for wearable that presents a new paradigm to the wearable industry. In addition to advanced 14nm FinFET process, integrated LTE modem with various connectivities, and 64-bit dual-core CPU, the Exynos 7 Dual integrates memory and Power management IC all in a small tiny package making it perfect for slim form-factor wearable devices that are powerful and has incredibly long battery life.
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/w/solution/mod_ap/7270/​
Between it and the far larger battery I'd be surprised if an LTE Gear S3 couldn't make it through a 12 hour day in stand-alone mode.
Last Samsung watch I owned was the original Gear with the camera in the band. Still around here someplace but it no longer takes a charge.
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I had one too. I loved that watch and the camera got panned but I got some great pictures I wouldn't have if I had to fumble for my phone.

BarryH_GEG said:
I got the IconX headphones and they solve the "not being one of those people having a speakerphone conversation on their wrist" problem. Their case is incredibly compact and easy to carry around in your pocket.
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Over the years, I've tried various types of headsets- in ear, on ear, ear buds, neckband. No design has been completely satisfactory. I think the mechanism by which we talk/listen on a watch phone is the last problem requiring a totally new technical innovation. The best concept I've seen so far is a project that originated out of Samsung's labs called Sgnl. I hope it makes it to production.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sgnlstrap/sgnl-make-phone-calls-with-your-fingertip

afblangley said:
Over the years, I've tried various types of headsets- in ear, on ear, ear buds, neckband. No design has been completely satisfactory. I think the mechanism by which we talk/listen on a watch phone is the last problem requiring a totally new technical innovation. The best concept I've seen so far is a project that originated out of Samsung's labs called Sgnl. I hope it makes it to production.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sgnlstrap/sgnl-make-phone-calls-with-your-fingertip
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The problem the IconX solves for me is portability. Its small tubular (charging) case allows me to stick it cleanly in my pocket. That's opposed to wearing a dog collar BT headset around my neck (Gear Circle) or fumbling with a wired headset or God awful looking 80's era traditional in-ear BT head piece. With my IconX in my pocket its easier to leave my phone at home and manage calls and listen to music on my Gear and not look like a moron when I'm not using it.

Just ordered and will be delivered on Tuesday. T-Mobile is inundated with calls for the S3 and I can see them running out of stock fast.
Would have loved to pick it up but none of the T-Mobile stores in Lower Manhattan have them in stock.

None of the TMO in my area has stock either, I had to call in to place an order and will be getting it Mon or Tues.

Ordered mine this morning, its still says:
Order date: 11/18/2016 at 05:14 AM PST
Order status: Being Processed
Estimated to ship: 11/18/2016-11/23/2016

Just picked mine up from the T-Mo store. They only got one in and were holding it for me. It's on the charger. Haven't played with it yet. $20 for the wearable unlimited plan.

P7M8 said:
Just picked mine up from the T-Mo store. They only got one in and were holding it for me. It's on the charger. Haven't played with it yet. $20 for the wearable unlimited plan.
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Online its only $15, when you setup autopay. I bet the store clerk didnt tell you when you bought it

It's rather nice being able to leave my phone home for short trips to the supermarket.

Question Who's Ordered, and why?

I have been watching the development of folding devices for a few years. I've decided to go for it, as the tech seems reliable this time. I like the idea of a more compact phone like the old Motorola V3.
Pre-ordered the 128GB Version in green.
What's your thoughts?

I will be, just deciding on the colour.
I had an original Z Flip and really liked it, but there were a couple of annoyances with it - namely the inside screens protector which got oily and grubby within seconds. I could have removed it, but there were concerns over voiding warranty at the time, and I didn't really want to chance it.
The external screen was also completely pointless, something else they have remedied this time round.
The only thing making me pause, is that I know I will want the Pixel 6 Pro when that launches, and the fact that Samsung haven't done anything to these cameras from the OG Flip.
Early photo samples seem 'ok', but I may wait for official reviews before fully committing.

Just preordered my wife the pink 256gb and myself the grey 256gb version.
We have S10s now that have been great but are ready to enter the flip phone arena. She is excited about using the camera from outside cover with the pic preview option as well as the flex mode for video calls.
I am excited about a compact phone to throw in my pocket and flex mode for video calls etc.
Kind of bummed out about the 3.5mm jack but just ordered some usb C to 3.5mm adapters on amazon should be good to go.

We have $100 credit each left via samsungs website....will probably get the clear ring case for my wife and maybe leather for me. Also interested to see what Spigen comes up with, I see on amazon you can already order their cases.

jc83 said:
We have $100 credit each left via samsungs website....will probably get the clear ring case for my wife and maybe leather for me. Also interested to see what Spigen comes up with, I see on amazon you can already order their cases.
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I've gone for a Naked skin from Slickwraps.

Thanks I will check that one out. I'll have 5 cases in before I even get the phone

Pretty crap they don’t include the case in the box like they did with the OG Fold.
I never really liked it, but it was handy when I was out and about and wanted that extra protection!

One that's compact yet powerful and is not "bar" type = Flip 3, so probably will get one.
With 120Hz display refresh rate and not so power efficient(!) SD888, the 3300 mAh battery might become a concern.

I have the green 256gb on pre order, looking foward to a flip phone again, fold 3 is to heavy.
Trading in a 8t, I'm sure the flip 3 will take better photos??

I am watching youtube vids on flip 3, some say camera concerns. We use sammy S10's right now for the past few years, flip 3 probably has drastically better camera then our S10?

Can't imagine Samsung would release a phone with subpar cameras. Obviously, not going to be the same standard as the S21 Ultra.
Good review below

ordered the cream 256GB. After using the note9 for 3 years I'm sick of large heavy phones.
I also really miss my starTac's from the 90's.
I would have bought the Flip2 5G but I need the IP rating as I do a lot of exercising/sweating with the phone.
My only concern is the wireless charging/NFC with a magentic mount such as scosche. I have wireless charging everywhere (car, bedroom, office, lounge, kitchen).. so battery life is not a concern.

Like the previous post, I've got tired of big heavy phones (currently Note10+) but also just looking forward to having something a bit different. Phones have got really samey and just not as much fun to own anymore. Hoping the flip 3 brings back the excitement of owning something a bit different, even if I will have to charge it every 5 min

my gf have the original flip, the first one. (hey, of course she want it, i'm the one that paid for it).
it' time to upgrade to flip3 since the more you fold/open/close the flip, the crease going to get worse.
i ordered the 256gb flip3 since it' the same price as the 128gb flip3 with the 50$ credits applied to 256gb flip3.

I got mine today works great, looking forward to root and ROMS!
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ken1337 said:
I got mine today works great, looking forward to root and ROMS!View attachment 5388727
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Nice.

cd1yat said:
..... even if I will have to charge it every 5 min
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Finally found the man who's responsible for companies making phones thinner and thinner before 2020, thus providing smaller and smaller batteries.

Pre-order grey 256GB and seem like next month only can get it here at Malaysia. I'm after the technology as Samsung said screen is 80% better than before. Camera seem not really superb but usable as daily use.

kedge said:
I have the green 256gb on pre order, looking foward to a flip phone again, fold 3 is to heavy.
Trading in a 8t, I'm sure the flip 3 will take better photos??
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I'm doing the same. Got a OP8 5G through a tmobile promo half off so i only paid about $400 for it if I remember correctly. Now tmobile is giving me $1000 trade-in credit for it. The offer is just too good to pass up, even though I'm really going to miss my OP8

Virgo_Guy said:
Finally found the man who's responsible for companies making phones thinner and thinner before 2020, thus providing smaller and smaller batteries.
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I think I must plead guilty, after years of giant phones I've genuinely had enough and am ready for a change