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Considering a return

I'm really nobody special but just thought I'd post my thoughts here. I've been an avid Android user since fall 2009. I went from the Sprint Hero to the Eris, OG Droid, Incredible, DX, and then made the jump to VZW's iPhone in Feb 2011.
The iPhone 4 is a great phone, but I miss Android. My wife has a D2 and wants my iPhone 4. Well 4g is just now being turned on in my area....so........she has approved my purchase of the TB as long as I sell her D2 to help cover the cost!
She gets the iPhone and can Facetime with her sister (they live 3 hours apart).
I'm touching base here, obviously I'm sure that most people are happy with their TB but please let me know what you think?
Is it worth the effort?
What are some things I can do to prep for battery life? I'm considering a second battery and have read about disabling 4g, but I'm not as likely to do this in my area now.
On another note...I'm doing this partly because of the discounted rate we get right now and I'd like to make sure that unlimited 4g data is on there at our current rate.
My last note: I'd never take the D2 over the iPhone...just saying If this doesn't work out I may consider a switch to Sprint when the EVO 3d comes out

Get it. Or not. Its your call and you already know what you want, most likely.
Personally I wouldn't trade my TB for anything. I hate apples overcontrol and 3d is one of the dumbest marketing gimmicks for a phone I have seen in a long time, just saying.
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I would go TB before Iphone 4 twice on Sunday, but I would also grab the extended battery while there

I don't recommend the extra battery thing. Wait till you see how much of a ***** it is to open the battery cover. I've only opened it twice (once to put the SIM/battery in when I first got it, and once a few days ago because I had to do a battery pull). Everytime I open it I feel like I'm going to break the damn thing!

I got a TB, and so far I like it a lot. The only thing I have against it is the battery life (but I have got it down to a manageable level). So if you are away from the charger a lot, grab a spare.
And plus, you can still videochat with the TB. I'm sure that there will be a solution for iphone to TB videochatting out there.
The 4G is wicked fast, to the point I feel like slowing down if I have to get on wifi. Plus, since VZ is not charging premium for 4G access unlike another carrier, and not to mention locking into unlimited data before it goes away some day, these 2 factors convinced me to jump in.
All in all, I recommend.

That sucks, I've considered the inductive charging back but that would rule out the Ballistic HC case.

A few good options; root it and put a good Rom/kernel and/or get the extended battery. I've done both.
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My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points

To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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I'm waiting for Skype to release their fix before installing it. The wife and her sister currently use Skype, just not on her D2. They use their PC's, but now they'll have another option.
Thanks for the tip.

Yes, the current security flaw is huge. Althought its not even an official release.
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True, and I noticed that I've only got 40 post (with this post). I'm thankful nobody thought I was a troll lol.
I do love this forum, I just try to post when I have something to contribute.

Good choice. I'm going to switch my wife from an iPhone 4. Couldn't be happier with my TB.

I like my TB, wouldn't trade it in and I'm like some people I hate Apple. That does not go to say cause I'm an Android user. TB is my first smart phone, ever.
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Go for it, you'll love the phone.
I have no regrets, even more so since neither Moto or VZW have squashed the rumors of the Bionic being scrapped, which was the device I was waiting for. Add a 1yr contract on top of that, and everything is roses.
As far as battery life.. I bought a spare release day thinking it would be a good idea. I havent used it once..
Keep your auto sync'ing to a minimum, display brightness mid level and dont run battery sucking apps and you're fine. I get through a day no problem with normal use, and I am running slightly OC'd at 1.2GHz.

I have had mine for 26 hours… Here is my impression. Battery life is not bad at all if you turn 4G off which I did because I don’t even have it in my area. Everything else is great… except one of the worst kickstand designs ever designed.
First off it’s on the wrong side so you can’t have the kickstand out and have the USB cable plugged in at the same time. As stupid and terrible of a design that is it’s not that big of a deal as I really don’t see myself using the kickstand that much.
The real problem is that the kickstand covers the speaker!!!!
It’s just beyond me why they did this. You want to talk on speaker, or listen to music, or watch a YouTube video… whatever. Well the audio is going to be muffled compared to if you have the kickstand out always… no matter what. Even if you can hear fine you always know you could hear it better if the kickstand was out. So you will always be walking around holding your phone with the kickstand out for no reason other than just so the speaker won’t be covered.
Its design flaws like this that just drive me f’ing crazy!! I want to just remove the kickstand altogether. It’s something that is a hindrance like 95% of the time and might be a benefit maybe 5%.
Just drives me crazy
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Other than that its awesome.

michaelkahl said:
My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points
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After getting an email from VZ saying I was eligible for an upgrade at promo prices, I went to BB to get a Bolt and charge it to my BB card until I sold my Droid X. 15 minutes after the guy at BB Mobile told me I would have to buy at retail price or activate on a new line, I was walking out of Verizon with my new Bolt, charged to my Verizon account. Sold the X the day before my 14 day trial period with the Bolt was over. I was sweating that one out as I didn't really want to go back to my DX after getting to know the TBolt.
Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.

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Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.
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You are correct and it went down in an ugly fashion. The store manager approved the price match...however the BB Mobile Manager refused to authorize the match. I let them know my disappointment, especially since the store manager approved it. I've worked retail, and if the store manager messed up they usually honored it for that occurrence.
I literally went across the street and purchased the phone from VZW at $130.00 cheaper. The sad thing, I was actually going to purchase an invisible shield and couple of other accessories at BB so it wasn't a total wash if they honored it.
I emailed customer service with the store number and let them know about my experience. It probably won't go anywhere but I really did think that it was messed up, especially since they took me through most of the transaction prior to notifying me.

BTW some beautiful numbers! Not the best, but I'm very happy!
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ah man, i feel your pain.
i've been using android since the g1 with tmobile, switched to the nexus one, got the mytouch 4g then switched to verizon for the thundertold (preorder may i add)
Used the iPhone4 for Verizon for about 3 days and the TB came out so i returned the iphone and got the TB, couldn't use that phone for more than a week. Battery life sucks, phones too big, feels like a brick, and can CAN BE USED AS A DEADLY WEAPON! sad to say i'm using the iphone, again. Only cause this has higher value then any android phone @ verizon and I can get more $ out of it when I sell it.. I was hoping to pick up the Incredible2 but no lte? forget that. Good luck man, hard choice but the iphone isnt that bad..but i'd still take android os over iphone, just not the thunderbolt

Gear s2 3G compared to Apple Watch size-wise.

This is not meant to be a full comparison here. Just was in my local ATT store today and put one on next to my Apple Watch to see how it compares size wise. Here are the pics.
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As you can see, the thickness of the Gear S2 is for real. More than the Apple Watch even, at least eyeballing it. And it was pretty heave on the wrist too. However, this may have been related to the security device that was attached to it as well. The speaker on it was decent. I turned on some Samsung tunes with it and turned it all the way up and could hear it pretty clearly in the crowded ATT store. Functionality is basically the same as the non-3G version of the watch that I have for now.
Still torn on weather I wanna stick with this, or go with the LG Urbane 2nd generation.
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Thanks for the pictures. Looks hideous! Maybe it actually looks better than your top picture? Was gonna run up to my local at&t store today, now definitely will to see for myself.

drmacrofish said:
This is not meant to be a full comparison here. Just was in my local ATT store today and put one on next to my Apple Watch to see how it compares size wise. Here are the pics.
As you can see, the thickness of the Gear S2 is for real. More than the Apple Watch even, at least eyeballing it. And it was pretty heave on the wrist too. However, this may have been related to the security device that was attached to it as well. The speaker on it was decent. I turned on some Samsung tunes with it and turned it all the way up and could hear it pretty clearly in the crowded ATT store. Functionality is basically the same as the non-3G version of the watch that I have for now.
Still torn on weather I wanna stick with this, or go with the LG Urbane 2nd generation.
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Thanks for sharing...wow that looks thicker than i imagined (or wanted). Looks like I will stick with my classic after all, considering i already have a gear s.
Fyi, I read the lg urbane lte will be 14mm...also very thick!

sefrcoko said:
Thanks for sharing...wow that looks thicker than i imagined (or wanted). Looks like I will stick with my classic after all, considering i already have a gear s.
Fyi, I read the lg urbane lte will be 14mm...also very thick!
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yeah the Urbane LTE is thick, but since it is larger overall, it probably won't look as weird.

FitzAusTex said:
yeah the Urbane LTE is thick, but since it is larger overall, it probably won't look as weird.
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Exactly my thoughts. I think it will hide the thickness better because the lugs and band are bigger too.
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"More than the Apple Watch even"
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Even? Of course it's more than the Apple Watch. Apple Watch is thinner than a lot of smart watches..
Apple Watch - 10.5mm
LG Watch Urbane - 10.9mm
Gear S2, Huawei, Moto 360 - 11.4mm
Gear S2 3g, 13.4

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Of course it's more than the Apple Watch. Apple Watch is thinner than a lot of smart watches..
Apple Watch - 10.5mm
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That is just the case though, Apple is kind of being disingenuous about the real thickness of the watch which is 12.46 mm including glass and sensors:

Too bad! I've been waiting for a while for the gear s2 3G to show up, but as everyone can see, it is NOT worthy at all. Look at the thickness of the normal Gear S2.
The normal one is beauty, but it doesn't have a speaker. The second one is ugly af, but DOES have a speaker.
Conclusion: Wait for LG Watch Urbane 2... 1 week ago or so I was happy knowing that i'll buy the gear s2 3G sometime soon, guess i'll just stick with something else. Too bad, it was too good to be true...

just dont wear it under a long sleeve dress shirt, and it will be just fine..

It's not that bad. It's not really noticeably bigger/thicker than a normal 42mm watch (ex rolex)
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Just went and checked one out at my local AT&T ... it's DEFINITELY bulkier, and it's extremely noticable, I had every intention of going 3G version, but it literally looks like you have a mini cereal bowl strapped to your arm and I'm a big dude and it still just looked big, bulky, stuck out too far and overall just kinda dumb looking, if I went straight from the Gear S then maybe I wouldn't notice, but after having the S2 reg version, the 3G looks like crap, can't say it's really the thickness that ruined it, it's more about the contoured bottom they put on it, that's what makes it look weird.
My 2 cents ... but I guess I'm gonna go ahead and just stick with my non smartwatch looking, sleek beautiful Gear S2 BT. .. damn Samsung lol

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Just went and checked one out at my local AT&T ... it's DEFINITELY bulkier, and it's extremely noticable, I had every intention of going 3G version, but it literally looks like you have a mini cereal bowl strapped to your arm and I'm a big dude and it still just looked big, bulky, stuck out too far and overall just kinda dumb looking, if I went straight from the Gear S then maybe I wouldn't notice, but after having the S2 reg version, the 3G looks like crap, can't say it's really the thickness that ruined it, it's more about the contoured bottom they put on it, that's what makes it look weird.
My 2 cents ... but I guess I'm gonna go ahead and just stick with my non smartwatch looking, sleek beautiful Gear S2 BT. .. damn Samsung lol
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Did you take any pics with it on your wrist?
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Did you take any pics with it on your wrist?
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Nah, we were kind of in and out, spent about 10 minutes with the wife looking at it and both of us trying it on, she's petite and she has a S2 BT that she loves and looks good on her, but when she tried this is just looked ridiculous, can say the same for me as a big guy though, just looked really odd and bulky and even one notch below what I would put to fit me properly with a little extra space it still felt like the edge of the bottom was poking into my wrist bone, the way it's shaped and the edge around the bottom contour aren't confortable, from straight on it looks good, but from the sides it looks like a dolls bowl on your arm, feels heftier which was a concern, feeling cheap or something from the added plastic but I can say I didn't feel that was an issue, but everything else was.
I'm 90% sure at this point I'm not gonna bother with the 3G version and the 3G was all I wanted and just 1 try on turned me off of it.
I wanted the GPS for when I bike or hike, but my S6 Edge+ in a book bag will work fine for those days, and same with the speaker function, man do I miss that feature lol and there will be times I'll keep missing it (quick answering at work or while driving) but for the rest of the time I can grab my phone, and when I'm walking, biking or hiking I'll just wear my BT headphones as I would anyway ... I'm definitely sad the 3G doesn't seem to be what I hoped but if it was never an option the BT model is a win regardless.
But again I'm only 90% sure it's not for me, I might go grab one after release and give it a real world run, or maybe not. But I figured I'd give my 2 cents on it, they seem to be at every local AT&T so if anyone has any doubts definitely go play with one.

Samsung Makes Complete Junk (Back Fell Off)

What a complete piece if garbage. The back is just glued on.
Any hope of a class action against Samsung?
Warning: This will happen to your watch eventually. In my case, it let water in and the watch was destroyed while washing my hands.
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So far no headway with Samsung. Out of warranty and they don't care.

How long have you had that smartwatch? I've done some crazy things to mine, including painting it with nail polish, and it is still in one piece

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How long have you had that smartwatch? I've done some crazy things to mine, including painting it with nail polish, and it is still in one piece
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I've had this one about 20 months.
This is a replacement for the original one that **** the bed (bad battery). Samsung refused to help with the original one, they claimed it was "grey market" even though I bought it from Best Buy in the USA and gave them complete documentation for the proof of purchase. I also activated the original one on my Samsung account in the Best Buy store, so Samsung knows I bought that unit at Best Buy.
Best Buy got so pissed off with Samsung, they gave me a free replacement. They knew what Samsung was doing was complete bull****.
I'm trying to dig up as much as I can on Gear S2 failures. I'd like to see about opening a class action against Samsung as it's becoming quite clear to me that they make junk and cheat people on their warranties.
I have Galaxy the S2, S5 , S7, S9+, and S10+ phones that are all still in use today with various family members. Some have had it pretty rough. It's inexcusable for Samsung to make a watch with glued on parts. I expected at least 3-4 years of life from the watch.

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I've had this one about 20 months.
This is a replacement for the original one that **** the bed (bad battery). Samsung refused to help with the original one, they claimed it was "grey market" even though I bought it from Best Buy in the USA and gave them complete documentation for the proof of purchase. I also activated the original one on my Samsung account in the Best Buy store, so Samsung knows I bought that unit at Best Buy.
Best Buy got so pissed off with Samsung, they gave me a free replacement. They knew what Samsung was doing was complete bull****.
I'm trying to dig up as much as I can on Gear S2 failures. I'd like to see about opening a class action against Samsung as it's becoming quite clear to me that they make junk and cheat people on their warranties.
I have Galaxy the S2, S5 , S7, S9+, and S10+ phones that are all still in use today with various family members. Some have had it pretty rough. It's inexcusable for Samsung to make a watch with glued on parts. I expected at least 3-4 years of life from the watch.
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Sorry to hear that! I haven't had problems with it yet, though I decided not to buy any Samsung smartphone after I got the Note I a couple of years ago, and only got 6 months of support, once they released the Note II they forgot about the customer with older devices. I only got this smartwatch because it is "the best one" available in Argentina (by that I mean, the only one available that looks decent, and not cheap Chinese dupe).
I am definitely not a fan of Samsung, and I hope I don't have any issues with mine (though I already had to replace the band, as the leather one is ruined).

cyko said:
I've had this one about 20 months.
This is a replacement for the original one that **** the bed (bad battery). Samsung refused to help with the original one, they claimed it was "grey market" even though I bought it from Best Buy in the USA and gave them complete documentation for the proof of purchase. I also activated the original one on my Samsung account in the Best Buy store, so Samsung knows I bought that unit at Best Buy.
Best Buy got so pissed off with Samsung, they gave me a free replacement. They knew what Samsung was doing was complete bull****.
I'm trying to dig up as much as I can on Gear S2 failures. I'd like to see about opening a class action against Samsung as it's becoming quite clear to me that they make junk and cheat people on their warranties.
I have Galaxy the S2, S5 , S7, S9+, and S10+ phones that are all still in use today with various family members. Some have had it pretty rough. It's inexcusable for Samsung to make a watch with glued on parts. I expected at least 3-4 years of life from the watch.
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Same thing just happened to mine. I've had mine for about 2.5 years. Purchased from third-party foreign vendor on Amazon so I think I'm screwed

Mine is doing this also. But it is due to the battery swelling. After a battery swap and fresh adhesive, this should be sorted.

Question Who's Ordered, and why?

I have been watching the development of folding devices for a few years. I've decided to go for it, as the tech seems reliable this time. I like the idea of a more compact phone like the old Motorola V3.
Pre-ordered the 128GB Version in green.
What's your thoughts?

I will be, just deciding on the colour.
I had an original Z Flip and really liked it, but there were a couple of annoyances with it - namely the inside screens protector which got oily and grubby within seconds. I could have removed it, but there were concerns over voiding warranty at the time, and I didn't really want to chance it.
The external screen was also completely pointless, something else they have remedied this time round.
The only thing making me pause, is that I know I will want the Pixel 6 Pro when that launches, and the fact that Samsung haven't done anything to these cameras from the OG Flip.
Early photo samples seem 'ok', but I may wait for official reviews before fully committing.

Just preordered my wife the pink 256gb and myself the grey 256gb version.
We have S10s now that have been great but are ready to enter the flip phone arena. She is excited about using the camera from outside cover with the pic preview option as well as the flex mode for video calls.
I am excited about a compact phone to throw in my pocket and flex mode for video calls etc.
Kind of bummed out about the 3.5mm jack but just ordered some usb C to 3.5mm adapters on amazon should be good to go.

We have $100 credit each left via samsungs website....will probably get the clear ring case for my wife and maybe leather for me. Also interested to see what Spigen comes up with, I see on amazon you can already order their cases.

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We have $100 credit each left via samsungs website....will probably get the clear ring case for my wife and maybe leather for me. Also interested to see what Spigen comes up with, I see on amazon you can already order their cases.
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I've gone for a Naked skin from Slickwraps.

Thanks I will check that one out. I'll have 5 cases in before I even get the phone

Pretty crap they don’t include the case in the box like they did with the OG Fold.
I never really liked it, but it was handy when I was out and about and wanted that extra protection!

One that's compact yet powerful and is not "bar" type = Flip 3, so probably will get one.
With 120Hz display refresh rate and not so power efficient(!) SD888, the 3300 mAh battery might become a concern.

I have the green 256gb on pre order, looking foward to a flip phone again, fold 3 is to heavy.
Trading in a 8t, I'm sure the flip 3 will take better photos??

I am watching youtube vids on flip 3, some say camera concerns. We use sammy S10's right now for the past few years, flip 3 probably has drastically better camera then our S10?

Can't imagine Samsung would release a phone with subpar cameras. Obviously, not going to be the same standard as the S21 Ultra.
Good review below

ordered the cream 256GB. After using the note9 for 3 years I'm sick of large heavy phones.
I also really miss my starTac's from the 90's.
I would have bought the Flip2 5G but I need the IP rating as I do a lot of exercising/sweating with the phone.
My only concern is the wireless charging/NFC with a magentic mount such as scosche. I have wireless charging everywhere (car, bedroom, office, lounge, kitchen).. so battery life is not a concern.

Like the previous post, I've got tired of big heavy phones (currently Note10+) but also just looking forward to having something a bit different. Phones have got really samey and just not as much fun to own anymore. Hoping the flip 3 brings back the excitement of owning something a bit different, even if I will have to charge it every 5 min

my gf have the original flip, the first one. (hey, of course she want it, i'm the one that paid for it).
it' time to upgrade to flip3 since the more you fold/open/close the flip, the crease going to get worse.
i ordered the 256gb flip3 since it' the same price as the 128gb flip3 with the 50$ credits applied to 256gb flip3.

I got mine today works great, looking forward to root and ROMS!
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I got mine today works great, looking forward to root and ROMS!View attachment 5388727
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Nice.

cd1yat said:
..... even if I will have to charge it every 5 min
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Finally found the man who's responsible for companies making phones thinner and thinner before 2020, thus providing smaller and smaller batteries.

Pre-order grey 256GB and seem like next month only can get it here at Malaysia. I'm after the technology as Samsung said screen is 80% better than before. Camera seem not really superb but usable as daily use.

kedge said:
I have the green 256gb on pre order, looking foward to a flip phone again, fold 3 is to heavy.
Trading in a 8t, I'm sure the flip 3 will take better photos??
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I'm doing the same. Got a OP8 5G through a tmobile promo half off so i only paid about $400 for it if I remember correctly. Now tmobile is giving me $1000 trade-in credit for it. The offer is just too good to pass up, even though I'm really going to miss my OP8

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Finally found the man who's responsible for companies making phones thinner and thinner before 2020, thus providing smaller and smaller batteries.
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I think I must plead guilty, after years of giant phones I've genuinely had enough and am ready for a change

Unlocked or Carrier Specific. What is the difference

Seems right.. With the US models being bootloader locked, which prevents you from customizing your phone.. What is the advantage now of buying a complete unlocked phone over a carrier specific one? I mean if you buy a carrier one upfront no monthly payments, you could have them unlock the phones. I'm considering on purchasing a new phone next month. But not sure which to buy yet.. So I do not want to spent say $200 more for a unlocked device if there is not going to any real advantage over a carrier specific device.

Most phones cost the same unlocked or locked..but being unlocked you can go to any carrier you want with no contract or them keeping your phone hostage.

I have a AT&T Note 10+ and recently bought the unlocked version.
I thought there be a big difference. Not so at least with Samsung. Less the AT&T software my package disabler list was near identical for both.
Net difference just about zero.
The unlock version functions the same on the AT&T network. Simply slammed in the sim card and it was good to go. However I don't use wifi or video calling so no idea if that's the same.
If you go with a AT&T phone plan to buy once you reach the 1 or 2 years mark you could pay it off and save a couple hundred dollars which is what I did. Do whatever works best for you.
If you like the Notes a used N10+ is another option. They are still available new too. I'm not impressed with the Samsung flagships that followed the N10+ as they are inferior in a number of ways. Because of this I bought a new N10+ running on Android 10 and avoided being forced to use 11 or 12 which suck pretty bad, especially 12. So I have twins now.

passerbyeus said:
Most phones cost the same unlocked or locked..but being unlocked you can go to any carrier you want with no contract or them keeping your phone hostage.
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AT&T phones can be easily unlocked once paid off. Did it with this N10+ that's in my hand.

blackhawk said:
AT&T phones can be easily unlocked once paid off. Did it with this N10+ that's in my hand.
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That is why I'm considering just buying a phone locked phone. I do see sellers selling the unlocked version for far more than the carrier specific ones. Since I'm buying in cash I can have it unlocked right from the start.... I'm with t-mobile currently and have the A52 5G. This is the only phone in yrs I have financed... At the end of April, I'm paying it off, but still not sure which phone to purchase.. I have had various makers, but usually like the Samsung... Been looking at the Note 10+ and the S21 Ultra.. Not going to buy the newest unless it had a great deal.. But either way my phone and the wife's Iphone 13 pro max she wants, will be paid in full at the time of purchase...

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That is why I'm considering just buying a phone locked phone. I do see sellers selling the unlocked version for far more than the carrier specific ones. Since I'm buying in cash I can have it unlocked right from the start.... I'm with t-mobile currently and have the A52 5G. This is the only phone in yrs I have financed... At the end of April, I'm paying it off, but still not sure which phone to purchase.. I have had various makers, but usually like the Samsung... Been looking at the Note 10+ and the S21 Ultra.. Not going to buy the newest unless it had a great deal.. But either way my phone and the wife's Iphone 13 pro max she wants, will be paid in full at the time of purchase...
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My 4G unlimited data plan with AT&T is grandfathered and cheap. I would lose it going to 5G along with battery life for questionable speed gains.
My oldest N10+ is 2.5 yo and the only repair is a replacement battery, no big deal. It looks and runs like new in spite of very heavy usage. The display is still perfect, no dead pixels or degradation. It supports a V30 SD card up to 1tb which I'm upgrading to from a 512gb one. The beast is a work horse that gets 8-10 hours SOT once optimized*. It's display while 60hz has a better color rendering index than probably even the newest variable refresh rate displays and definitely better than the N20U. Great for pics and vids. A near perfect white point and gamma profile. Excellent color management that the variable refresh rate displays lack as they are extremely hard to calibrate.
It's form factor is better than all the newer Samsung flagships. Only 7mm thick and the camera assembly sits almost flush to the rear cover.
The cam and vid capabilities are very good, while laser AF be nice it's AF works well. The spen sits where it should if you're right handed, on the right not the left side. One downside is the longer latency of the N10+ spen then the newer models, but it has all the spen tricks including the bt remote shutter release. As far as processor and ram speed it's snappy and with 12gb of ram it doesn't run out of ram. Bonus if you get one running on Android 9 or 10, no cpu cycling sucking scoped storage to slow it down or get in your hair. The current OS load on this one will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. Part of my decision was the no learning curve and easy set up for a second one.
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It's just fun to use.
*my N10+'s are heavily optimized both with settings as well as with Package Disabler. A good case is mandatory, I'm using the Zizo Bolt. A great case that easy to hold, doesn't attract dirt and has sucked up close to a dozen 2-4 foot drops onto concrete with zero phone damage.
Stock N10+ customized using free Samsung icon packs, the Goodlock family of apps and free 3rd party apps like Digi Clock and Double Tap.
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