So i just received my Z5 (black) on Friday and while taking some low light and night photo shots I noticed a blue/purple tint to the top left corner of images. Testing the camera against a black background confirmed the discoloration. Photos were taken 16:9 8mp in auto mode. I have attached to samples taken while the camera was covered to produce the tint. Anyone else experience this?
Edit: Flash was off for both of these. The first photo was ISO 6400 and the second 12800
That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
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That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
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I updated the first post with the ISO values. I didn't see this behaviour with my Z3+ so I was curious as to hardware versus software problems.
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
schecter7 said:
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
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Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
Same issue plagued the Z3 sadly, looks like no improvement in this regard.
I've seen the tint in many samples over the past few weeks
joe_dude said:
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
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Can confirm with night scene the output is nearly all black
FerroFlux said:
Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
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I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
FerroFlux said:
Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
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Just don't use SA when shooting low light photos. It ramps up the ISO way too high that causes that and also over exposes a shot and blurs the photo because of too much noise. Try testing it in a moderately lit (artificial light) room and try SA, manual with different ISOs and Night Mode on scenes.
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I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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12800 ISO is not a bad thing, unless you're using a phone. Cameras on mobile, including the Z5, are just way too small compared to real cameras with large sensors and better hardware that just can't fit (yet) in a phone. Sony thought they would win the low-light mobile phone photography contest by introducing that insane high ISO, everyone else thought otherwise. It overexposes (way over) the shot and blurs everything to reduce too much noise. That's in the auto mode, which all tech review sites use in their reviews and that's why the Z5 (since the 12800 ISO was introduced in Z3) gets trashed in their comparison. At least you could still shoot a proper low-light photo using the manual controls by controlling the exposure and ISO levels, or choosing night mode.
Low-light means low light - you need high ISO. There's no way around high ISO in low-light when you're shooting from mobile phones. Using that, you can take shots from Xperias with relatively higher details in 'low' light.
What you're saying is a entirely different thing. The camera sw abuses the ISO when it shouldn't - those are moderate/challenging lights. That's not low light & it's a different discussion.
Here are some shots from Z3+ & S6 (read again - this is 'low' light) I posted earlier. Definitely, higher ISO came handy this time.
http://fortheloveoftech.com/2014/10/24/sony-xperia-z3-vs-nokia-lumia-1020-the-gold-standard-test/
Could anyone post a pic of their Z5's performance with the lens covered? I was going to exchange mine but the seller provided a picture taken using another in-stock Z5 that shows the same issue (strong blue tinting on the left side) at 12800 iso. Just curious if it could be fixed with an update to the camera or if it is a permanent hardware issue.
Z5 -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1086_zpsbdtdubhk.jpg.html
Z3+ -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1148_zpslikyyway.jpg.html
Same issue here. Theres going to be a bit no matter what, even what schecter posted I can still see the tint in a dark room
Yep, heres a video skip to 1:10 which shows the elevator scene Sonys camera is PURPLE
The Sony Xperia Z5 is a product in japan and its all feature is outstanding that is why i think there is no reason to be worried .Use the best product and love you very much .
Is this a hardware or software issue? I have a similar problem with my Z5 Compact, and am thinking whether I should exchange it...
i have the same issue too, no matter how i adjust i am unable to get rip of the purple tint in auto or Manual mode while taking a pitch black picture. at first i thought is my case but i remove the case still the same problem. day time takes great pictures
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My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Have any one got the same problem as mine? It is hardware fault or software that can be fixed in the future update?
hieuhd93 said:
My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Have any one got the same problem as mine? It is hardware fault or software that can be fixed in the future update?
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Can't think of a way to sort this on this phone. The reason is the metering, rather than using "average" metering on manual like other phones, it uses a spot. So whatever you point at determines how bright the picture is.
Auto sorts this by changing modes probably to backlit etc, but then the photo's come out bad quality and fill of noise with no detail.
Unless Sony add average metering we will struggle.
beside this thing, the phone ccan do some really good photo in normal condition...Anyone had the same?
This is a good example of metering and how where you tap influences the shot. The issue isn't with white balance but rather exposure.
hieuhd93 said:
My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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ISO 80, 1/64, metering : spot
point at the light means ignore everything else so iso is low and fast exposure. Exposed for the light, ignores everything.
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- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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ISO 1600, 1/25, metering : spot
When you say lower angle where exactly did you tap for focus ? was it the wall below the light or the clothes.
if you point at the dark area where the clothes are, camera thinks its dark and ups iso and blows out the image due to light close by.
You want to point somewhere its not too bright or too dark if using spot. if you point at the wall shot will be less overexposed.
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Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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Auto shot, ISO 160, 1/32, meter is average
if you want to see the shot of the clothes center weighted is better. It means a circle (little bigger than spot) in the centre of the screen only will be considered for metering. Will ignore the light.
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DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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Auto shot, ISO 800, 1/64, meter is average.
ISO is too high. What did you do with this one ? where did you tap.
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there is no problem, this is how its supposed to work. When you include a bright source in your image it will overpower the others so you have to find a balance if you want to include that light in the shot. Or you could avoid the light.
Spot is sensitive so where you tap to get exposure matters depending on the scene.
SA defaults to average metering which is good when the light is similar across the scene, if there is very bright and dark it will just average everything and result isn't so good. Spot used carefully or center weighted will give a better result than average metering.
One Twelve said:
This is a good example of metering and how where you tap influences the shot. The issue isn't with white balance but rather exposure.
ISO 80, 1/64, metering : spot
point at the light means ignore everything else so iso is low and fast exposure. Exposed for the light, ignores everything.
ISO 1600, 1/25, metering : spot
When you say lower angle where exactly did you tap for focus ? was it the wall below the light or the clothes.
if you point at the dark area where the clothes are, camera thinks its dark and ups iso and blows out the image due to light close by.
You want to point somewhere its not too bright or too dark if using spot. if you point at the wall shot will be less overexposed.
Auto shot, ISO 160, 1/32, meter is average
if you want to see the shot of the clothes center weighted is better. It means a circle (little bigger than spot) in the centre of the screen only will be considered for metering. Will ignore the light.
Auto shot, ISO 800, 1/64, meter is average.
ISO is too high. What did you do with this one ? where did you tap.
there is no problem, this is how its supposed to work. When you include a bright source in your image it will overpower the others so you have to find a balance if you want to include that light in the shot. Or you could avoid the light.
Spot is sensitive so where you tap to get exposure matters depending on the scene.
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Thanks for your analyse. I choose meter: multiple spot and problem solved. I just dont get why it didn't take meter automatically as good as the Z2 (by default)...?
Post your z2 image on flickr.
Oh you removed the other shots too.
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Post your z2 image on flickr.
Oh you removed the other shots too.
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Problem solved and amateur photos deleted . Tks for your concern
What was solved and how did you solve it
Can anyone confirms this? Almost 4 units i tested from sony stalls has this issue.
The photos taken by camera turns out to be overly sharpened, with lots of artifacts.
Turning on or off image enhancements does not help.
I am seeing this as well. And most of the reviews I saw also reported this.
Currently I am trying a few third party camera apps to see if they do the same
Haiz.. Why can't they make the camera right for once?
I concurred this. Mine focused good. I learned a trick that you actually have to tap the screen then press and hold the camera button on screen or side until it is clear. When i first got it, all my photos was focusing on the wrong spot. However, now with that trick i could get sharp images but zooming in they look very blurry and a lot of noise.
Do you experience this is good or low light? You do have to work a little bit harder with the camera settings as the light drops off to get the right image. And use the designated camera button too rather than the on screen one.
Good lightings... Not to mention if its poor lighting conditions. Guess have to wait for a new firmware.
Yep so much sharpening in all lighting conditions. Hoping for a software update soon.
Here is samples pictures from my XZ. It has undoubtedly the best selfies camera under daylight. Lowlight shooting takes a bit to get used to it. It was bad as first but if you toggle on "tap - focus and brightness" in setting it will improve tremendously as it uses it light sensor to automatically brighten the photos. Overall, I'm happy with the camera. It beats Iphone 7 Plus and on par with the S7Edge. My beef with the XZ is the small size and 3GB. I would prefer 5.5 and 4GB for a $600 phone. But if you can get it for $450 or $500, this phone is definitely worth every penny.
http://imgur.com/a/1S4Si
I am not talking about selfies. I am talking about the main camera. Very bad quality here. So fall 8 sets i have tried, same issues
Noticed this myself, not impressed with the image quality. Seems to be worse than my Z2. Hoping when they eventually drop Nougat it'll iron out some of the issues.
About blure and noise, increse ev to +0.7 or 1
A very good example of xz camera samples. You can guess which photos are by xz. The oversharpening of images when zoomed in.. Soo much artifacts.
http://m.gsmarena.com/blind_shootout_iphone7_galaxy_s7_xperia_xz_lg_g5
I have an S7 and iPhone SE. Generally speaking, the S7 does better (though a little more yellow) than the SE in lower light scenarios. However, when it comes to these lights, the S7 keeps adding this awful flare or reflection or something. The SE doesn't do it. My wife's iPhone 7 doesn't do it. It really ruins the photo. I've attached an example (cropped) from a family member's house... but it's consistent in other scenarios similar to that - lower light, some dynamic range in the photo overall, etc. It does seem to only be in the portion of the photo (again similar elsewhere) that's closer to me as well. I'm about 4 feet from that front post.
Is this normal? Is this just an inherent part of the way the S7 camera handles things? It's perfect in every other situation and this is the first time I've come across an issue like this with it.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Obvious question but is the lens clean?
And HDR disabled?
Lens is clean, and HDR is on Auto. I never turn it off as it's been reliably good up until now.
Here are the stats from the original (if something is left off, then it wasn't showing any info):
Dimensions: 4032 x 3024
Hor resolution: 72 dpi
Vert resolution: 72 dpi
Bit depth: 24
Resolution unit: 2
Brightness: -2.13
Light Source: Unknown
Exposure Program: Normal
White Balance: Auto
EXIF version: 0220
F-stop: f/1.7
Exposure time: 1/10 sec.
ISO speed: ISO-400
Exposure bias: 0 step
Focal length: 4 mm
Max aperture: 1.53
Metering mode: Center Weighted Average
Flash Mode: No Flash
35mm focal length: 26
jntdroid said:
Lens is clean, and HDR is on Auto. I never turn it off as it's been reliably good up until now.
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Test it with HDR disabled, HDR takes 3 images with different exposure settings and merges them iirc
And it is well known to be a little buggy anyway, leaving pink dots on photos
Might not be that, but if you want to narrow down the issue you need to test everything
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Test it with HDR disabled, HDR takes 3 images with different exposure settings and merges them iirc
And it is well known to be a little buggy anyway, leaving pink dots on photos
Might not be that, but if you want to narrow down the issue you need to test everything
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Agree, but based on the stats on the photo, it's looking like HDR was indeed disabled (or it would've indicated HDR right?)
I've read about the pink dot issue and never seen that on mine - and this doesn't appear to be the pink dot issue. The spots are clearly reflections or flares off of the lights that are closer. They're just so significantly worse than other phone cameras I've used. On the iPhones I referenced, you can see small tiny light dots in other parts of the photo, but they're much more inconspicuous and don't take away from the photo.
I'll keep playing with it this evening and see if I can narrow things down any more. I just wanted to see if others had seen this or had an "issue" like this, or if it was just a difficult spot that the S7 couldn't handle while other top-tier phone cameras could (if so, that would be a first in my experience).
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There seems to be a lot of noise and graininess in low light shots with my Pixel 2. I understand low light is difficult but I just want to make sure whether the shots in the link is normal or is there something wrong with my camera.
It's just automatic mode so not HDR+ enhanced. There are some that I've turned the compensation down as well by focusing and sliding down the brightness gauge. Is there any other way to mitigate the noise and blown out pics like these like a separate option to lower the shutter speed or is there something wrong with my camera?
There's also other 2 other pics indoor with low light. One is with enhanced HDR and the other just normal. The noise is crazy here. I'm pretty sure my iPhone 6 did better here. Also, my camera seems to flicker (like when you video old TV's theres lines that travel either up and down or left and right) in certain lighting conditions, mainly the gym and the room in the picture. The room is lit by LED light and my tv is also LED. Is this normal?
Albums:
imgur(dot)com/a/xeJLl
imgur(dot)com/gallery/ywxEx
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There seems to be a lot of noise and graininess in low light shots with my Pixel 2. I understand low light is difficult but I just want to make sure whether the shots in the link is normal or is there something wrong with my camera.
It's just automatic mode so not HDR+ enhanced. There are some that I've turned the compensation down as well by focusing and sliding down the brightness gauge. Is there any other way to mitigate the noise and blown out pics like these like a separate option to lower the shutter speed or is there something wrong with my camera?
There's also other 2 other pics indoor with low light. One is with enhanced HDR and the other just normal. The noise is crazy here. I'm pretty sure my iPhone 6 did better here. Also, my camera seems to flicker (like when you video old TV's theres lines that travel either up and down or left and right) in certain lighting conditions, mainly the gym and the room in the picture. The room is lit by LED light and my tv is also LED. Is this normal?
Albums:
imgur(dot)com/a/xeJLl
imgur(dot)com/gallery/ywxEx
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Just for clarification, you've tried pictures without HDR+, with HDR+, and with HDR+ enhanced (must be enabled in the camera settings somewhere)? If not, "HDR+ enhanced" mode might be what you're looking for since it (from my understanding) is the common HDR mode that takes a little longer in order to shoot multiple photos and combine them. There's a thread called "HDR+ on vs HDR+ Enhanced?" that could be helpful, as well as an interview with someone at Google about the camera decisions and different modes. I don't have enough posts to include links, but they're easy to find. If you already knew about the additional "HDR+ enhanced" mode though then I'm afraid I can't help you. Every picture looks incredible to me coming from the HTC One M7, so I haven't played with it much.
Delos Dinh said:
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There seems to be a lot of noise and graininess in low light shots with my Pixel 2. I understand low light is difficult but I just want to make sure whether the shots in the link is normal or is there something wrong with my camera.
It's just automatic mode so not HDR+ enhanced. There are some that I've turned the compensation down as well by focusing and sliding down the brightness gauge. Is there any other way to mitigate the noise and blown out pics like these like a separate option to lower the shutter speed or is there something wrong with my camera?
There's also other 2 other pics indoor with low light. One is with enhanced HDR and the other just normal. The noise is crazy here. I'm pretty sure my iPhone 6 did better here. Also, my camera seems to flicker (like when you video old TV's theres lines that travel either up and down or left and right) in certain lighting conditions, mainly the gym and the room in the picture. The room is lit by LED light and my tv is also LED. Is this normal?
Albums:
imgur(dot)com/a/xeJLl
imgur(dot)com/gallery/ywxEx
Thanks
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I looked at your photos, I don't think we're seeing the same things. The pics look great aside from a few being out of focus. I just had an iphone 6 for a short time and I'm 100% sure it can't come close to those photos in low light.
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Just for clarification, you've tried pictures without HDR+, with HDR+, and with HDR+ enhanced (must be enabled in the camera settings somewhere)? If not, "HDR+ enhanced" mode might be what you're looking for since it (from my understanding) is the common HDR mode that takes a little longer in order to shoot multiple photos and combine them. There's a thread called "HDR+ on vs HDR+ Enhanced?" that could be helpful, as well as an interview with someone at Google about the camera decisions and different modes. I don't have enough posts to include links, but they're easy to find. If you already knew about the additional "HDR+ enhanced" mode though then I'm afraid I can't help you. Every picture looks incredible to me coming from the HTC One M7, so I haven't played with it much.
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Thanks, the first set of pictures was just standard HDR. Do you also think the second album us good looking? There's a lot of noise there looking from both my phone and laptop.
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Thanks, the first set of pictures was just standard HDR. Do you also think the second album us good looking? There's a lot of noise there looking from both my phone and laptop.
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Take some pictures in another place with the same lighting levels and a few in a slightly lit environment. I haven't checked my phone's photos on a PC, but on the phone they looked pretty good. Do you see noise when you view your photos on the phone itself?
Delos Dinh said:
Thanks, the first set of pictures was just standard HDR. Do you also think the second album us good looking? There's a lot of noise there looking from both my phone and laptop.
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There's some noise on the second set of pics around the TV area, but I can't tell how dark the room is. They remind me of times that my HTC One lens was dirty--especially since the odd marks are about the same shape and in just about the same place even with different shooting modes. When mine got dirty, I couldn't tell just by looking at it, and I had to wipe it with a damp cloth (dry cloth didn't work). It could also be something with the way the TV screen is processed; certain types of screen cause different effects on different phones. Just FYI, apparently the default camera mode can't be changed (HDR+), so it has to be toggled off every time the camera is opened if you don't want it.
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In the Google interview, the guy mentions that they made a trade off between noise and brightness so that Pixel 2 users can see more of the image subject. Made it seem like Google decided what's the point if you can't see anything and figured it's easier to later darken an image rather than brighten it without damaging the quality.
delta7019 said:
Just for clarification, you've tried pictures without HDR+, with HDR+, and with HDR+ enhanced (must be enabled in the camera settings somewhere)? If not, "HDR+ enhanced" mode might be what you're looking for since it (from my understanding) is the common HDR mode that takes a little longer in order to shoot multiple photos and combine them. There's a thread called "HDR+ on vs HDR+ Enhanced?" that could be helpful, as well as an interview with someone at Google about the camera decisions and different modes. I don't have enough posts to include links, but they're easy to find. If you already knew about the additional "HDR+ enhanced" mode though then I'm afraid I can't help you. Every picture looks incredible to me coming from the HTC One M7, so I haven't played with it much.
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There's some noise on the second set of pics around the TV area, but I can't tell how dark the room is. They remind me of times that my HTC One lens was dirty--especially since the odd marks are about the same shape and in just about the same place even with different shooting modes. When mine got dirty, I couldn't tell just by looking at it, and I had to wipe it with a damp cloth (dry cloth didn't work). It could also be something with the way the TV screen is processed; certain types of screen cause different effects on different phones. Just FYI, apparently the default camera mode can't be changed (HDR+), so it has to be toggled off every time the camera is opened if you don't want it.
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In the Google interview, the guy mentions that they made a trade off between noise and brightness so that Pixel 2 users can see more of the image subject. Made it seem like Google decided what's the point if you can't see anything and figured it's easier to later darken an image rather than brighten it without damaging the quality.
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Thanks Il try it.
Charkatak said:
Take some pictures in another place with the same lighting levels and a few in a slightly lit environment. I haven't checked my phone's photos on a PC, but on the phone they looked pretty good. Do you see noise when you view your photos on the phone itself?
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Thanks, on both my phone and laptop, I see a lot noise :S
mikeyinid said:
I looked at your photos, I don't think we're seeing the same things. The pics look great aside from a few being out of focus. I just had an iphone 6 for a short time and I'm 100% sure it can't come close to those photos in low light.
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Thanks. Hmmm.. even for the second lot of pics? There's just a lot of noise and graininess I can see from looking at form my phone and laptop. :S It's always good for a second opinion thank you.
Delos Dinh said:
Thanks. Hmmm.. even for the second lot of pics? There's just a lot of noise and graininess I can see from looking at form my phone and laptop. :S It's always good for a second opinion thank you.
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I took close to 100 photos this weekend when I took my family to see Christmas lights in a nearby town. It was night time and I have to say, I was very surprised how well the photos came out. I do see some noise/graininess in some, mostly ones of people. But they are still very good considering the darkness. Even portrait mode worked very well in low light.
Yes, I would say that it's normal (I only looked at the image with the buildings). HDR+ enhanced could be worth a try.
It's possible that other phone cameras would have less noise in this light condition, but then they would blow out the highlights. In my opinion Google does the right thing: Slightly more noise for less blown out highlights. Though in low light the images are often too bright. So the best thing you can do is using the exposure compensation. This can also make the shutter speed faster. Be aware that less noise will be visible when you underexpose, but when you adjust the brightness with software afterwards, then the noise will be even worse.
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Upload a jpeg or two.
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Dead or blocked links on my end.
Upload a jpeg or two.
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Sorry, just updated the thread. Can you check again please ?
That's probably not a good example; the high light level on the fridge is skewing the exposure.
Try turning HDR on/off. Try a different exposure option.
There's some vignetting in the corners of both cams, this is typical of all lens.
Try a white picket fence to check for chromatic distortions.
It may be your display as well that's skewing the color rendering index if you're viewing it on the phone. On my N10+* both look similar as far as colors. The cam may not have enough light or the right color temperature of light to grab a good sample. Using a good color calibrated display and a good app like Canon DPP on the PC is the best way to get an accurate assessment. This can get very involved...
You will drive yourself nuts doing this... been there, done that with a malfunctioning pro cam.
If you're dissatisfied, return it for a cash refund.
*the Note 10+'s color rendering index and white point are near perfect. All the variable rate displays suffer from less precise color/gamma and white point calibration. All variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to factory calibrate. This is a major reason I didn't get the N20U. More than likely this continues to be an issue with all variable refresh rate displays.
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That's probably not a good example; the high light level on the fridge is skewing the exposure.
Try turning HDR on/off. Try a different exposure option.
There's some vignetting in the corners of both cams, this is typical of all lens.
Try a white picket fence to check for chromatic distortions.
It may be your display as well that's skewing the color rendering index if you're viewing it on the phone. On my N10+* both look similar as far as colors. The cam may not have enough light or the right color temperature of light to grab a good sample. Using a good color calibrated display and a good app like Canon DPP on the PC is the best way to get an accurate assessment. This can get very involved...
You will drive yourself nuts doing this... been there, done that with a malfunctioning pro cam.
If you're dissatisfied, return it for a cash refund.
*the Note 10+'s color rendering index and white point are near perfect. All the variable rate displays suffer from less precise color/gamma and white point calibration. All variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to factory calibrate. This is a major reason I didn't get the N20U. More than likely this continues to be an issue with all variable refresh rate displays.
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The camera doesn't have an option to turn off or on HDR, I think newer models don't have it. You can only turn off scene optimizer and that didn't change anything. I'm actually ok with the photos but if you look at the flowers on curtain at the top on the first pic they are almost brown/dark where they should be colorful/pink and that's correct on S20 FE's photo. It's not only this pic, when I take a picture of a tree for example the bole of tree is always too dark
This câmera is Sh**t on exynos….Upgraded to S22 ultra from a Oppo X3 FIND PRO…and…my god…oppo is so good on câmera…
s22 ultra has a lot of noIse indoors…
no HDR toogle ?? Wtf Samsung!
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The camera doesn't have an option to turn off or on HDR, I think newer models don't have it. You can only turn off scene optimizer and that didn't change anything. I'm actually ok with the photos but if you look at the flowers on curtain at the top on the first pic they are almost brown/dark where they should be colorful/pink and that's correct on S20 FE's photo. It's not only this pic, when I take a picture of a tree for example the bole of tree is always too dark
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I don't see it. Color calibration is very good on this display but it's not a color calibrated display which is what you need. Even slight deviations in calibration can skew the colors.
Areas of abnormal darkness have more to do with metering. Samsung's metering algorithms might be screwed up or it could be hardware.
If it's vignette on the corners it's 100% the lense.
Compare the different cams as they use different lens and sensors.
It's a long tedious exercise you're getting into...
No use pulling hair when you can cut it; personally for many other reasons this isn't my flagship of choice. The cam is a somewhat secondary consideration for me.
You should like your shiny new flagship... return it if you don't is my best advice.
I found this about HDR. I found it can definitely screw up images.