Z3 Camera problem: Hardware or Software? - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Have any one got the same problem as mine? It is hardware fault or software that can be fixed in the future update?

hieuhd93 said:
My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
Have any one got the same problem as mine? It is hardware fault or software that can be fixed in the future update?
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Can't think of a way to sort this on this phone. The reason is the metering, rather than using "average" metering on manual like other phones, it uses a spot. So whatever you point at determines how bright the picture is.
Auto sorts this by changing modes probably to backlit etc, but then the photo's come out bad quality and fill of noise with no detail.
Unless Sony add average metering we will struggle.

beside this thing, the phone ccan do some really good photo in normal condition...Anyone had the same?

This is a good example of metering and how where you tap influences the shot. The issue isn't with white balance but rather exposure.
hieuhd93 said:
My Z3 camera has terrible white balance in Manual mode ( compared with the Z2, very stable in any light condition), especially under the high light, at some angles, the photo sometimes is overexposured, sometimes become very dark (?!)...here some example photo i took:
Manual:
- when pointing the camera straight to the light
DSC_0324 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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ISO 80, 1/64, metering : spot
point at the light means ignore everything else so iso is low and fast exposure. Exposed for the light, ignores everything.
hieuhd93 said:
- When poiting the camera in lower angle to the light
DSC_0325 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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ISO 1600, 1/25, metering : spot
When you say lower angle where exactly did you tap for focus ? was it the wall below the light or the clothes.
if you point at the dark area where the clothes are, camera thinks its dark and ups iso and blows out the image due to light close by.
You want to point somewhere its not too bright or too dark if using spot. if you point at the wall shot will be less overexposed.
hieuhd93 said:
Auto mode: the white balance is better as usual.
DSC_0326 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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Auto shot, ISO 160, 1/32, meter is average
if you want to see the shot of the clothes center weighted is better. It means a circle (little bigger than spot) in the centre of the screen only will be considered for metering. Will ignore the light.
hieuhd93 said:
DSC_0327 by trunghieuhd93, on Flickr
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Auto shot, ISO 800, 1/64, meter is average.
ISO is too high. What did you do with this one ? where did you tap.
hieuhd93 said:
Have any one got the same problem as mine? It is hardware fault or software that can be fixed in the future update?
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there is no problem, this is how its supposed to work. When you include a bright source in your image it will overpower the others so you have to find a balance if you want to include that light in the shot. Or you could avoid the light.
Spot is sensitive so where you tap to get exposure matters depending on the scene.
SA defaults to average metering which is good when the light is similar across the scene, if there is very bright and dark it will just average everything and result isn't so good. Spot used carefully or center weighted will give a better result than average metering.

One Twelve said:
This is a good example of metering and how where you tap influences the shot. The issue isn't with white balance but rather exposure.
ISO 80, 1/64, metering : spot
point at the light means ignore everything else so iso is low and fast exposure. Exposed for the light, ignores everything.
ISO 1600, 1/25, metering : spot
When you say lower angle where exactly did you tap for focus ? was it the wall below the light or the clothes.
if you point at the dark area where the clothes are, camera thinks its dark and ups iso and blows out the image due to light close by.
You want to point somewhere its not too bright or too dark if using spot. if you point at the wall shot will be less overexposed.
Auto shot, ISO 160, 1/32, meter is average
if you want to see the shot of the clothes center weighted is better. It means a circle (little bigger than spot) in the centre of the screen only will be considered for metering. Will ignore the light.
Auto shot, ISO 800, 1/64, meter is average.
ISO is too high. What did you do with this one ? where did you tap.
there is no problem, this is how its supposed to work. When you include a bright source in your image it will overpower the others so you have to find a balance if you want to include that light in the shot. Or you could avoid the light.
Spot is sensitive so where you tap to get exposure matters depending on the scene.
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Thanks for your analyse. I choose meter: multiple spot and problem solved. I just dont get why it didn't take meter automatically as good as the Z2 (by default)...?

Post your z2 image on flickr.
Oh you removed the other shots too.

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Post your z2 image on flickr.
Oh you removed the other shots too.
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Problem solved and amateur photos deleted . Tks for your concern

What was solved and how did you solve it

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Camera Tint in Low Light

So i just received my Z5 (black) on Friday and while taking some low light and night photo shots I noticed a blue/purple tint to the top left corner of images. Testing the camera against a black background confirmed the discoloration. Photos were taken 16:9 8mp in auto mode. I have attached to samples taken while the camera was covered to produce the tint. Anyone else experience this?
Edit: Flash was off for both of these. The first photo was ISO 6400 and the second 12800
That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
itsjustJOH said:
That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
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I updated the first post with the ISO values. I didn't see this behaviour with my Z3+ so I was curious as to hardware versus software problems.
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
schecter7 said:
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
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Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
Same issue plagued the Z3 sadly, looks like no improvement in this regard.
I've seen the tint in many samples over the past few weeks
joe_dude said:
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
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Can confirm with night scene the output is nearly all black
FerroFlux said:
Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
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I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
schecter7 said:
I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
FerroFlux said:
Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
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Just don't use SA when shooting low light photos. It ramps up the ISO way too high that causes that and also over exposes a shot and blurs the photo because of too much noise. Try testing it in a moderately lit (artificial light) room and try SA, manual with different ISOs and Night Mode on scenes.
schecter7 said:
I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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12800 ISO is not a bad thing, unless you're using a phone. Cameras on mobile, including the Z5, are just way too small compared to real cameras with large sensors and better hardware that just can't fit (yet) in a phone. Sony thought they would win the low-light mobile phone photography contest by introducing that insane high ISO, everyone else thought otherwise. It overexposes (way over) the shot and blurs everything to reduce too much noise. That's in the auto mode, which all tech review sites use in their reviews and that's why the Z5 (since the 12800 ISO was introduced in Z3) gets trashed in their comparison. At least you could still shoot a proper low-light photo using the manual controls by controlling the exposure and ISO levels, or choosing night mode.
Low-light means low light - you need high ISO. There's no way around high ISO in low-light when you're shooting from mobile phones. Using that, you can take shots from Xperias with relatively higher details in 'low' light.
What you're saying is a entirely different thing. The camera sw abuses the ISO when it shouldn't - those are moderate/challenging lights. That's not low light & it's a different discussion.
Here are some shots from Z3+ & S6 (read again - this is 'low' light) I posted earlier. Definitely, higher ISO came handy this time.
http://fortheloveoftech.com/2014/10/24/sony-xperia-z3-vs-nokia-lumia-1020-the-gold-standard-test/
Could anyone post a pic of their Z5's performance with the lens covered? I was going to exchange mine but the seller provided a picture taken using another in-stock Z5 that shows the same issue (strong blue tinting on the left side) at 12800 iso. Just curious if it could be fixed with an update to the camera or if it is a permanent hardware issue.
Z5 -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1086_zpsbdtdubhk.jpg.html
Z3+ -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1148_zpslikyyway.jpg.html
Same issue here. Theres going to be a bit no matter what, even what schecter posted I can still see the tint in a dark room
Yep, heres a video skip to 1:10 which shows the elevator scene Sonys camera is PURPLE
The Sony Xperia Z5 is a product in japan and its all feature is outstanding that is why i think there is no reason to be worried .Use the best product and love you very much .
Is this a hardware or software issue? I have a similar problem with my Z5 Compact, and am thinking whether I should exchange it...
i have the same issue too, no matter how i adjust i am unable to get rip of the purple tint in auto or Manual mode while taking a pitch black picture. at first i thought is my case but i remove the case still the same problem. day time takes great pictures

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel XL's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I posted a link to my picture folder I have on google photos under the main picture section of The Real Life Review section. There are some low light photos in there that compare the normal google camera on the pixel to the manual FV-5 app in low light. I have to admit I am throughly surprised by how well it does in low light. Usually you'd need OIS in order to compensate your hand shake for lower light photos to turn out. Using the normal google camera the super low light photos pretty much sucked. But using manual modes through FV-5 I got it to .5 second shutter open (The highest you can set it) and up to 10k ISO. I know 10k is insanely high but when the shutter won't stay open for more than .5 seconds even on manual, you need a higher ISO to compensate. And it allows just as much light in as my LG G5 did on 20 second manual mode. Mind you, the 20 second manual mode at 800 ISO is going to be MUCH MUCH less grainy than on the Pixel.
But the fact the pixel can get the colors right and show so much detail in .5 seconds is nuts. I'm attaching the Google Camera App low light photo and the one for the FV-5 manual photo
There's a bit more noise than what I would prefer, but the colours and brightness are phenomenal.
I was just going to post a question on this. This is the same picture, my front porch, dim porch light behind me. No flash and flash. I reproduced the effect several times. I'm probably going to try and return the phone tomorrow in hopes it's hardware. If other people have the same results though......
noremac258 said:
There's a bit more noise than what I would prefer, but the colours and brightness are phenomenal.
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There's so much noise because the ISO was boosted to an obscenely high 10k. A third party camera app with manual controls had to be used to achieve that, because no automatic mode would ever go to such a high light sensitivity.
Edit for additional elaboration: I say this because the way you've worded your post leaves ambiguity in terms of whether you're blaming the phone itself for the presence of noise
It's a decent low light performer. Although the lack of OIS shows sometimes if you don't have a steady hand.
I wanted to try low light so I went out of my way to try the camera in a few cheesy museums in Niagara Falls. They were very dark and my flash on went off once. The pictures were great.
Mine is terrible. I get random colors, either washed out white or green. Nothing intelligible in the pics. If I snap the same shot every time I will eventually get a clear one. It's like the sync between flash/shutter is off on most of the pictures.
Can't seem to focus
Did some testing with the XL and the S7 edge seeing a live band and while the XL kickass in daylight, the edge won hands down when it comes to taking pics inside low light....XL produced grainy, slightly blurred pics...XL was set to 16:9 8m and the Edge was set to 16:9 9.1m.....I still love my XL though
mav42 said:
Did some testing with the XL and the S7 edge seeing a live band and while the XL kickass in daylight, the edge won hands down when it comes to taking pics inside low light....XL produced grainy, slightly blurred pics...XL was set to 16:9 8m and the Edge was set to 16:9 9.1m.....I still love my XL though
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Pics?
mav42 said:
Did some testing with the XL and the S7 edge seeing a live band and while the XL kickass in daylight, the edge won hands down when it comes to taking pics inside low light....XL produced grainy, slightly blurred pics...XL was set to 16:9 8m and the Edge was set to 16:9 9.1m.....I still love my XL though
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Really? In auto-mode? Currently I´ve testing both phones. The S7 really sucks in auto-mode in low light, but with manual controls I can produce better or sharper shots than with the pixel.
mav42 said:
Did some testing with the XL and the S7 edge seeing a live band and while the XL kickass in daylight, the edge won hands down when it comes to taking pics inside low light....XL produced grainy, slightly blurred pics...XL was set to 16:9 8m and the Edge was set to 16:9 9.1m.....I still love my XL though
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Nice comment.. because I like to buy a s7 edge or pixel xl and.. I still undecided.
tried to up load pics but files are too big and i get a error
6:15 am... Some artifacts, but most phones wouldn't have shown anything.
From what i've seen I have yet to be that impressed with low light shots.... i still have one a XL on order, I don't get why google yet again left OIS out. Its not like they were trying to keep the price down this time.
nice !
noremac258 said:
There's a bit more noise than what I would prefer, but the colours and brightness are phenomenal.
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For iso 10,000 that is super clean!
Certainly not as good as my old S7 Edge for lowlight

Christmas light "flares" in pictures?

I have an S7 and iPhone SE. Generally speaking, the S7 does better (though a little more yellow) than the SE in lower light scenarios. However, when it comes to these lights, the S7 keeps adding this awful flare or reflection or something. The SE doesn't do it. My wife's iPhone 7 doesn't do it. It really ruins the photo. I've attached an example (cropped) from a family member's house... but it's consistent in other scenarios similar to that - lower light, some dynamic range in the photo overall, etc. It does seem to only be in the portion of the photo (again similar elsewhere) that's closer to me as well. I'm about 4 feet from that front post.
Is this normal? Is this just an inherent part of the way the S7 camera handles things? It's perfect in every other situation and this is the first time I've come across an issue like this with it.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Obvious question but is the lens clean?
And HDR disabled?
Lens is clean, and HDR is on Auto. I never turn it off as it's been reliably good up until now.
Here are the stats from the original (if something is left off, then it wasn't showing any info):
Dimensions: 4032 x 3024
Hor resolution: 72 dpi
Vert resolution: 72 dpi
Bit depth: 24
Resolution unit: 2
Brightness: -2.13
Light Source: Unknown
Exposure Program: Normal
White Balance: Auto
EXIF version: 0220
F-stop: f/1.7
Exposure time: 1/10 sec.
ISO speed: ISO-400
Exposure bias: 0 step
Focal length: 4 mm
Max aperture: 1.53
Metering mode: Center Weighted Average
Flash Mode: No Flash
35mm focal length: 26
jntdroid said:
Lens is clean, and HDR is on Auto. I never turn it off as it's been reliably good up until now.
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Test it with HDR disabled, HDR takes 3 images with different exposure settings and merges them iirc
And it is well known to be a little buggy anyway, leaving pink dots on photos
Might not be that, but if you want to narrow down the issue you need to test everything
*Detection* said:
Test it with HDR disabled, HDR takes 3 images with different exposure settings and merges them iirc
And it is well known to be a little buggy anyway, leaving pink dots on photos
Might not be that, but if you want to narrow down the issue you need to test everything
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Agree, but based on the stats on the photo, it's looking like HDR was indeed disabled (or it would've indicated HDR right?)
I've read about the pink dot issue and never seen that on mine - and this doesn't appear to be the pink dot issue. The spots are clearly reflections or flares off of the lights that are closer. They're just so significantly worse than other phone cameras I've used. On the iPhones I referenced, you can see small tiny light dots in other parts of the photo, but they're much more inconspicuous and don't take away from the photo.
I'll keep playing with it this evening and see if I can narrow things down any more. I just wanted to see if others had seen this or had an "issue" like this, or if it was just a difficult spot that the S7 couldn't handle while other top-tier phone cameras could (if so, that would be a first in my experience).

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 5's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Probably requires a little work on the SW, as I've noticed it takes great pictures at times, and then bad pictures in the same conditions at times. Misses one star for low light pictures.
I deduct 3 star for low light, EIS doesn't work in still image & there is no OIS in OP5 (OP5 downgraded from op3 in stabilization) so, in pro mode it's impossible to use 30s long shot without tripod or stands(who the hell like to use tripod in smartphone).
And the normal shots has lots of visible noises compared to advertised, portrait mode doesn't work in low light with flash, (missing on background lights bokeh), telephoto lens which is only 1.5x optical doesn't work in low light.
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It's great to my untrained eyes. XD
bullooka said:
I deduct 3 star for low light, EIS doesn't work in still image & there is no OIS in OP5 (OP5 downgraded from op3 in stabilization) so, in pro mode it's impossible to use 30s long shot without tripod or stands(who the hell like to use tripod in smartphone).
And the normal shots has lots of visible noises compared to advertised, portrait mode doesn't work in low light with flash, (missing on background lights bokeh), telephoto lens which is only 1.5x optical doesn't work in low light.
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What lol, who would use 30sec shutter time without tripod?
TheGripper said:
What lol, who would use 30sec shutter time without tripod?
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Isn't that possible with Stabilization?
bullooka said:
Isn't that possible with Stabilization?
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No the photo would come out terrible. Tripod is a must on any phone with a long shutter time.
TheGripper said:
No the photo would come out terrible. Tripod is a must on any phone with a long shutter time.
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Now I ordered a tripod from Amazon, and a separate smartphone holder. I already got a Bluetooth remote that can be used as remote shutter.
If you are experienced photographer or using OP5. can you tell me what setup would be the best to take photos of half moon with lots of patterned light clouds, I tried to take photo of that and the Moon is all blured out to a round bright circle, I tried on different iso and shutter speed, with focus on that landscape sign ...
I'm very impressed with the low light quality of this camera.
http://i.imgur.com/b2OQGcZ.jpg
It even got the stars from the night sky.
I putted an auto picture for comparison.
Also Consider the loss of quality from the collage app.
If you are interested in the originals or the shutter speed/ISO settings, just tell me.
how is low light photos after 4.5.8 update ? is it still blurry ?
gonsa said:
I'm very impressed with the low light quality of this camera.
http://i.imgur.com/b2OQGcZ.jpg
It even got the stars from the night sky.
I putted an auto picture for comparison.
Also Consider the loss of quality from the collage app.
If you are interested in the originals or the shutter speed/ISO settings, just tell me.
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Do you have other low light shots? Can I use them in a video review please?
ermacwins said:
Do you have other low light shots? Can I use them in a video review please?
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Yes, I provide here the link for the photos.
These are a set of night pictures, all taken in the same place with a tripod and different settings. This was my first test with a lot of different manual settings.
In every picture taken there's the apperture, the shutter time and the ISO in the details.
You can see for yourself which settings took the best pictures.
Remember this was complete night time with just a few street lights.
The download is pretty big, 427MB but they are the originals with the respective RAW files.
https://mega.nz/#!eMVnBZqC!tWWE7MB-oyWyjjCpLmqtnobW0TC3PMsM81AoqIeBsw0
gonsa said:
I'm very impressed with the low light quality of this camera.
http://i.imgur.com/b2OQGcZ.jpg
It even got the stars from the night sky.
I putted an auto picture for comparison.
Also Consider the loss of quality from the collage app.
If you are interested in the originals or the shutter speed/ISO settings, just tell me.
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How you do that? That's Amazing result
gonsa said:
Yes, I provide here the link for the photos.
These are a set of night pictures, all taken in the same place with a tripod and different settings. This was my first test with a lot of different manual settings.
In every picture taken there's the apperture, the shutter time and the ISO in the details.
You can see for yourself which settings took the best pictures.
Remember this was complete night time with just a few street lights.
The download is pretty big, 427MB but they are the originals with the respective RAW files.
https://mega.nz/#!eMVnBZqC!tWWE7MB-oyWyjjCpLmqtnobW0TC3PMsM81AoqIeBsw0
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Thanks, do you have any low light videos?
How did you manage to take that shot from so dark to do bright? Settings please
Google hacked hdr+ camera makes this camera see in the dark.
zathus said:
Google hacked hdr+ camera makes this camera see in the dark.
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can you shot some low light photos with that hacked app ?
jauhari said:
How you do that? That's Amazing result
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nsdhillon10 said:
How did you manage to take that shot from so dark to do bright? Settings please
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EXIF: F/1.7 4mm 10 seconds shutter speed, ISO 500, White Balance 2300K.
zathus said:
Google hacked hdr+ camera makes this camera see in the dark.
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Did you use it? Did you notice some grid from small circles when you crop a picture?
First one was done with stock camera, second one with Gcam HDR+

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Dead or blocked links on my end.
Upload a jpeg or two.
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Dead or blocked links on my end.
Upload a jpeg or two.
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Sorry, just updated the thread. Can you check again please ?
That's probably not a good example; the high light level on the fridge is skewing the exposure.
Try turning HDR on/off. Try a different exposure option.
There's some vignetting in the corners of both cams, this is typical of all lens.
Try a white picket fence to check for chromatic distortions.
It may be your display as well that's skewing the color rendering index if you're viewing it on the phone. On my N10+* both look similar as far as colors. The cam may not have enough light or the right color temperature of light to grab a good sample. Using a good color calibrated display and a good app like Canon DPP on the PC is the best way to get an accurate assessment. This can get very involved...
You will drive yourself nuts doing this... been there, done that with a malfunctioning pro cam.
If you're dissatisfied, return it for a cash refund.
*the Note 10+'s color rendering index and white point are near perfect. All the variable rate displays suffer from less precise color/gamma and white point calibration. All variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to factory calibrate. This is a major reason I didn't get the N20U. More than likely this continues to be an issue with all variable refresh rate displays.
blackhawk said:
That's probably not a good example; the high light level on the fridge is skewing the exposure.
Try turning HDR on/off. Try a different exposure option.
There's some vignetting in the corners of both cams, this is typical of all lens.
Try a white picket fence to check for chromatic distortions.
It may be your display as well that's skewing the color rendering index if you're viewing it on the phone. On my N10+* both look similar as far as colors. The cam may not have enough light or the right color temperature of light to grab a good sample. Using a good color calibrated display and a good app like Canon DPP on the PC is the best way to get an accurate assessment. This can get very involved...
You will drive yourself nuts doing this... been there, done that with a malfunctioning pro cam.
If you're dissatisfied, return it for a cash refund.
*the Note 10+'s color rendering index and white point are near perfect. All the variable rate displays suffer from less precise color/gamma and white point calibration. All variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to factory calibrate. This is a major reason I didn't get the N20U. More than likely this continues to be an issue with all variable refresh rate displays.
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The camera doesn't have an option to turn off or on HDR, I think newer models don't have it. You can only turn off scene optimizer and that didn't change anything. I'm actually ok with the photos but if you look at the flowers on curtain at the top on the first pic they are almost brown/dark where they should be colorful/pink and that's correct on S20 FE's photo. It's not only this pic, when I take a picture of a tree for example the bole of tree is always too dark
This câmera is Sh**t on exynos….Upgraded to S22 ultra from a Oppo X3 FIND PRO…and…my god…oppo is so good on câmera…
s22 ultra has a lot of noIse indoors…
no HDR toogle ?? Wtf Samsung!
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The camera doesn't have an option to turn off or on HDR, I think newer models don't have it. You can only turn off scene optimizer and that didn't change anything. I'm actually ok with the photos but if you look at the flowers on curtain at the top on the first pic they are almost brown/dark where they should be colorful/pink and that's correct on S20 FE's photo. It's not only this pic, when I take a picture of a tree for example the bole of tree is always too dark
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I don't see it. Color calibration is very good on this display but it's not a color calibrated display which is what you need. Even slight deviations in calibration can skew the colors.
Areas of abnormal darkness have more to do with metering. Samsung's metering algorithms might be screwed up or it could be hardware.
If it's vignette on the corners it's 100% the lense.
Compare the different cams as they use different lens and sensors.
It's a long tedious exercise you're getting into...
No use pulling hair when you can cut it; personally for many other reasons this isn't my flagship of choice. The cam is a somewhat secondary consideration for me.
You should like your shiny new flagship... return it if you don't is my best advice.
I found this about HDR. I found it can definitely screw up images.

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