Android System Updates in GPE - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since April I've been happily using @lost101 's optimized 5.1 GPE v1.1. Since September my mobile data usage went up and depleted my 150 MB plan, which should be enough for email and chat. It seems that Android System Updates downloads a 7-8 MB package regularly in the background, even when I happen to be on mobile, it doesn't care. I've just flashed v1.3, but I still see that once I open updates view, it offers an update and transfers data without asking.
I used to like GPE, it's very clean, but now it takes away my chance to use mobile data. Should I use a stock ROM, or what else could you suggest?

Is this issue caused by the "new monthly security updates"? Are those the patches named like *.m004? If they are unable to patch on custom ROMs, but keep downloading, I'll never have a normal data usage again.

kuvera said:
Is this issue caused by the "new monthly security updates"? Are those the patches named like *.m004? If they are unable to patch on custom ROMs, but keep downloading, I'll never have a normal data usage again.
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Update to v1.4. That's the latest version. It is based off the GPE M004 update and includes the latest fixes for the Stagefright bugs.
And it might also be the last update for Falcon GPE ever, so you probably won't get an update notification after that
Edit: Dirty flashing from v1.3 to v1.4 caused FCs on my phone. You might have to clean flash, like I did

In 'Data usage' - you can also click on 'Android System Updates' and disable background data on cellular networks. I will see if this can be stopped permanently.

k-kuchen said:
Update to v1.4. That's the latest version. It is based off the GPE M004 update and includes the latest fixes for the Stagefright bugs.
And it might also be the last update for Falcon GPE ever, so you probably won't get an update notification after that
Edit: Dirty flashing from v1.3 to v1.4 caused FCs on my phone. You might have to clean flash, like I did
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Thanks for the info. I'm very disappointed with GPE now, it took me a long time to figure out what took all that mobile data. I turned off almost all syncing at first. Since I don't want to constantly monitor data usage to see if there is a new update, I tried US Stock 5.1. It doesn't have an update now, and hopefully won't have them as aggressively as GPE.

lost101 said:
In 'Data usage' - you can also click on 'Android System Updates' and disable background data on cellular networks. I will see if this can be stopped permanently.
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I don't remember seeing this option, although I looked at Data Usage a lot. Those background downloads appeared as Android OS, for which background could not be disabled. I'm on Stock now...

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How do I figure out what is using up all my data?

I typically only use between 1GB and 2GB per month of data. However, this month I was notified that I had exceeded my 4GB limit. I increased the limit to 7GB and within 4 days that was exceeded. I've now shut off all cellular data. When I look in Settings > Data Usage > Cellular Data Usage it shows 7.25GB of data used by Android OS. If I tap on Android OS it lists a bunch of apps like com.qti.service.colorservice and com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp. I don't know if this list is sorted by which service/app used the most data and there's no more detail I can attain by tapping on the apps listed under Android OS.
Since I have dates and times for some of the largest downloads (868MB on March 27, 12:57AM for example), is there somewhere in the file system where I can see a list of IP addresses connected to and their timestamps to perhaps narrow down who/what is sucking up all my data?
Is there a more thorough way of wiping the phone than a factory reset?
Anybody seen this before and have any suggestions?
Did you root or mod it and are missing an uldate? Even with check for updates turned off people are reporting the same thing.
TonikJDK said:
Did you root or mod it and are missing an uldate? Even with check for updates turned off people are reporting the same thing.
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I did root it. Then I found out I couldn't get OTA updates anymore. I side loaded the 7.1.1 Sailfish update, build NOF26W. I'm not sure if a new update has since released. After side loading the update I lost root and was unable to get it back.
Months ago, when I first rooted the phone I had the same problem where the OS would continually download the OTA update, fail installation and re-download it. At the time I stopped it through rooting and disabling the update service directly. When I lost root after sideloading the OTA update I figured it wasn't a big deal since I could turn off updates in the Developer Options.
So you're saying the turn off updates option doesn't work?
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I did root it. Then I found out I couldn't get OTA updates anymore. I side loaded the 7.1.1 Sailfish update, build NOF26W. I'm not sure if a new update has since released. After side loading the update I lost root and was unable to get it back.
Months ago, when I first rooted the phone I had the same problem where the OS would continually download the OTA update, fail installation and re-download it. At the time I stopped it through rooting and disabling the update service directly. When I lost root after sideloading the OTA update I figured it wasn't a big deal since I could turn off updates in the Developer Options.
So you're saying the turn off updates option doesn't work?
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It does not work for everyone. Seen it a fair amount, you are the second one today. The other is over in the XL forum.
There is a new update every month. First Monday of the month is when they are released. You are one behind and a new one will be out in two days.
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It does not work for everyone. Seen it a fair amount, you are the second one today. The other is over in the XL forum.
There is a new update every month. First Monday of the month is when they are released. You are one behind and a new one will be out in two days.
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Google wants me to RMA the phone. Not sure how that's going to help though since it's a software problem.
I'm having the same issue. But I have one month 80 gig download this month I'm already at 35 gigs. I was rooted at one point wanted my updates so I updated root is gone but everything works fine but ever since then I have been getting these massive download constantly either on Wi-Fi or cellular I turned off so many things that is not funny backup everything and it's still happening hits exactly the same as the person that first created this thread.
darhoade said:
I'm having the same issue. But I have one month 80 gig download this month I'm already at 35 gigs. I was rooted at one point wanted my updates so I updated root is gone but everything works fine but ever since then I have been getting these massive download constantly either on Wi-Fi or cellular I turned off so many things that is not funny backup everything and it's still happening hits exactly the same as the person that first created this thread.
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If you're seeing gigs of data usage attributed to Android OS then it's likely repeatedly downloading OS updates that are failing installation. That's what happened to me.
You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?
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You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?
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Removing root isn't enough. I couldn't get updates to work until I installed a factory stock image and relocked the bootloader.
As far as I know there are 3 options.
1.) Root, block updates and never update
2.) Root, block updates, side load your updates and re-root each time to re-block updates
3.) Run stock, unrooted with locked bootloader and take automatic updates
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You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?
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You modded something while rooted​ that it doesnt like, or root is not completely removed. You need to flash the update yourself.
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Removing root isn't enough. I couldn't get updates to work until I installed a factory stock image and relocked the bootloader.
As far as I know there are 3 options.
1.) Root, block updates and never update
2.) Root, block updates, side load your updates and re-root each time to re-block updates
3.) Run stock, unrooted with locked bootloader and take automatic updates
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im unlocked, no root, no twrp (verizon edition)
and i take OTA all the time...
I think root and twrp kills ota, not bootloader unlocking......
just an fyi
I think root does also because it's worked fine when I first unlocked bootloader. Also I reinstalled stock room and still can't get it's it has to be what root does to phone
Did you try disable the Automatic System Updates from the Developer Options?
High Data Use by com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp
I ran into this issue too after traveling (driving) several days on a rooted Pixel XL (with TWRP and a custom kernel), which at the time was a month behind (running NKG47L, the June OTA for "T-Mobile, Fi carriers, and Rogers").
When I got back from the trip I noticed the phone had used much more data than expected, something along the lines of 75MB per hour (almost a GB a day) -- when all that had been done with the phone (that would use data) was use navigation. Further digging showed the data use was attributed to a process named com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp, and some Googling turned up threads that mentioned QualComm and/or T-Mobile and/or Google FI cellular service, but not many examples of how people actually fixed it.
In my case it was fixed (without losing data/apps), by manually updating to the latest OTA (with this approach), and then re-rooting. But I should also mention I switched from the "T-Mobile, Fi carriers, and Rogers" series (which for July would be NKG47M), to the generic Pixel XL series (NJH47D for July).
My suspicion is the phone was downloading the July OTA with cellular data, then tried to apply it (which failed either because the phone was rooted, or had TWRP, and/or had a custom kernel), and was then repeating that sequence every hour.
So, at least in my case, the moral of the story seems to be... If you're rooted and/or running a custom recovery/kernel, make sure you're on the current OTA before spending a lot of time away from recognized WiFi until Google fixes this! Or, as mentioned in an earlier post, have "Automatic system updates" disabled in Developer Options.
com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp and com.qti.service.colorservice are backdoor trojans (they have a few other names but all belong to the same group) to access and monitor your device. You need to check to see if it establishes any strange background connections. Please don't ask me how I know but I feel that I have the responsibility to warn everyone.

How to cancel an OTA update that has started to download?

Hello,
I have a Galaxy S6 running the latest 6.0.1 XEF stock ROM (no root) before Nougat.
I have choosen not to update to Nougat for the moment as I prefer to wait for better Nougat releases.
I was quite sure the settings of my S6 were set in order to disable search/install of updates. But yesterday, while connected to my network using Wifi, my S6 has started to download the Nougat updates! But, as I said, I don't want it for the moment. I stopped Wifi, then it stopped downloading the updates. I tried to go to the update settings of the S6 to disable updates but it is not possible now to go the "About device > Software update". And each time I connect to WIFI, it resumes the download of the update .
In the application manager, I found 2 apps related to "Software update": for only 1 of them it is possible to stop it and remove cache and data, which I did. I thought I would have cancelled the download of Nougat update and bring me back the possibility to disable update. But unfortunately, it has no effect. I also tried to wipe cache partition, but the same: it has no effect and each time I connect Wifi, it resumes the download of the update.
So, how I can cancel the download of the update and be able to access to the settings to prevent from downloading/installing it??
Thank you for you help!
There's no need, Nougat is stable now.
If you still doesn't want, let it download the update (because you can't cancel it) then block notifications from both updates apps from the settings.
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There's no need, Nougat is stable now.
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Really? Latest release for XEF has still the same changelist and I read several complains regarding battery life and lags into the Gallery app for example...
stephg27 said:
Really? Latest release for XEF has still the same changelist and I read several complains regarding battery life and lags into the Gallery app for example...
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I had very bad battery life on Nougat, i was on UAE firmware. When i bought this second S6 i made a decision to stop using custom roms so i tried to flash another firmware, took the last XEF ( from April) and flashed it 2 weeks ago, my battery improved a lot specially in standby , no issues or whatsoever.
Thanks for your feedback!
phone is full, now what?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but it seems the best fit.
Basically the same question as above: "How do I cancel an OS update download in progress" on my Samsung S6
Reasoning is a little different though. Accidentally I started the update process but during the download my phone ran full.
And as you might know, with a full phone some apps dont work.
Of course Android gives me the option to remove files and apps but immediately the free space is occupied by the running update....
Any ideas?
tia!

Cannot disable system updates on Pixel

Cannot disable system updates on Pixel. Changed settings but still OS updates are running.
Developer options > on > automatic system updates > off
You really like to have many vulnerabilities and old software on your phone do not you?
Leave it alone. Nowadays so many vulnerabilities are found each day it's crazy to not being able to protect yourself from them.
The option on stock Android 10 is only to "not apply updates at next reboot" You would have to stop update services. Root will be required. File manager to edit files. I have no idea how involved that would be, but then if a rollback to older version is your preference. Factory Images flashing, then stopping required services.
I would even consider to downgrade to ver. 9. After installation of ver. 10 the phone freezes often .
geo1001 said:
I would even consider to downgrade to ver. 9. After installation of ver. 10 the phone freezes often .
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ive only been having issues on the october patch, once i updated to this then the issues were persistent between resets, downgrades and roms
sudoxd said:
ive only been having issues on the october patch, once i updated to this then the issues were persistent between resets, downgrades and roms
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With my Pixel happened the opposite. After this patch , about a week, the freezings stopped. Believe or not, the battery stopped draining quickly and came back to normal discharge.

New StatiXOS OFFICIAL 4.2 build for Essential PH-1

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4.2 has been release
"Introduce our OTA Updater!"
For those with the Chrome issue of freezing I have a fix that another user in another ROM thread accidentally found!
If you download
PH1-OTA-PQ1A.190105.090.zip
and then reboot into recovery (TWRP, be sure to disable pin on phone before hand and backup everything) then flash the above (I wiped everything first but DON'T wipe internal storage) then I did a second wipe of everything but internal storage and then I flashed 4.2 of StatiXOS and then I flashed TWRP, then I rebooted phone and set it up from new and restored everything from Cloud backup and I can confirm that I no longer have the Chrome freezing issue.
You can thank seungbaekm over in the Evolution-X 5.4 thread for this fix as he is the one that accidentally flashed the older PH-1 factory image and discovered Chrome then worked again! This should fix the issue for all the new Android 11 ROM 's out there for us folks that have the Chrome browser locking issues.
I did not even test the new 4.2 ROM on its own to see if it happens to fix the Chrome issue but I doubt that it does since it is not mentioned in the release notes. Also I have no idea if any of the other original factory images will also fix the issue, I only downloaded the one they he said he accidentally flashed and used it.
Hope this helps everyone with this issue as I know how frustrating it has been. Sure, there is the Bromite/Brave/Firefox work around, and I have been using and enjoying Bromite since 4.1 but I like having things working the way they are supposed to work.
Thanks you very much
I will test
Following this great insight about the fix of the Chromium issue, I only flashed mata PQ1A.190105.090 NOVENDOR firmware from this old thread, without wiping anything of my current StatiXOS 4.2 installation, and after booting Brave is working perfectly.
So, it seems the issue was caused not by the ROM system or vendor, but the mata QQ1A.200105.007 firmware.
As a consequence of flashing this old no system nor vendor firmware, my device baseband was downgraded, but mobile data seems to be working just fine. I guess it's possible to test newer firmware available at the referenced thread, like PQ1A.190105.112, QP1A.190711.107 or QP1A.190711.148, to identify the latest firmware free of the Chromium issue.
More good news: now Netflix is working fine, also.
UPDATE: I tried all the these firmwares and Netflix worked fine only with the Pie ones. So, PQ1A.190105.112 is the more recent mata firmware that I can use on my PH-1 with StatiXOS 4.2 in order to keep Chromium browsers and Netflix working.
aamadorj said:
Following this great insight about the fix of the Chromium issue, I only flashed mata PQ1A.190105.090 NOVENDOR firmware from this old thread, without wiping anything of my current StatiXOS 4.2 installation, and after booting Brave is working perfectly.
So, it seems the issue was caused not by the ROM system or vendor, but the mata QQ1A.200105.007 firmware.
As a consequence of flashing this old no system nor vendor firmware, my device baseband was downgraded, but mobile data seems to be working just fine. I guess it's possible to test newer firmware available at the referenced thread, like PQ1A.190105.112, QP1A.190711.107 or QP1A.190711.148, to identify the latest firmware free of the Chromium issue.
More good news: now Netflix is working fine, also.
UPDATE: I tried all the these firmwares and Netflix worked fine only with the Pie ones. So, PQ1A.190105.112 is the more recent mata firmware that I can use on my PH-1 with StatiXOS 4.2 in order to keep Chromium browsers and Netflix working.
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This is some great news, thank you and SirDigitalKnight for the research! I haven't tried this fix yet, but I'm planning to when I flash this week if I do run into the chrome freeze problem. You mentioned this downgrades the device baseband version. I'm not too familiar with that, you did say it's working fine so far, but do you think that could cause issues in the future?
Just a question, does StatiXOS have slim recents included?
Mous3kteer said:
This is some great news, thank you and SirDigitalKnight for the research! I haven't tried this fix yet, but I'm planning to when I flash this week if I do run into the chrome freeze problem. You mentioned this downgrades the device baseband version. I'm not too familiar with that, you did say it's working fine so far, but do you think that could cause issues in the future?
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I have no idea if using a.Pie firmware could have side effects in the future. So far, I haven't seen any.
Using the StatiXOS Telegram support group, I shared the information about the different firmwares to the devs, so I think they'll tell us if something can go wrong in the future.
Is anyone else having issues with sending a text message with this rom?
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Is anyone else having issues with sending a text message with this rom?
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If you have VoLTE on, turn it off
vineetbhatia said:
Is anyone else having issues with sending a text message with this rom?
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If you have VoLTE on, turn it off
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Just reporting that I did a clean install - "Fastboot -w" on the latest working firmware (JAN20 FW, FEB20 Vendor iirc) and I'm very impressed.
Plus replaced the screen, battery, and buttons cable and now the phone is "essentially" new. Parts are actually quite cheap.
Chrome is working without issues.
360 Camera is working without issues
Haven't tried sending SMS with VoLTE On yet.
Amazing that we still a maintainer.
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If you have VoLTE on, turn it off
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Yup, that worked. Thanks mate..
The March 10th update they pushed out through the OTA updater worked perfectly. It is nice to see we still have good support on this great phone.
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For those with the Chrome issue of freezing I have a fix that another user in another ROM thread accidentally found!
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Thank you for this! And also thanks to @aamadorj for the further investigation!
It's too much of a hassle for me to do this fix right now, and I admit I have adapted to using Bromite and Firefox, but I'll definitely keep this in mind for some other time when I feel more like it... BTW, I did check, and Chrome stil freezes on the latest 4.2 update, no surprise here.
This ROM has been working great for me, very stable, no issues, and the updates are a breeze, especially with the latest OTA updater.
kt-Froggy said:
Thank you for this! And also thanks to @aamadorj for the further investigation!
It's too much of a hassle for me to do this fix right now, and I admit I have adapted to using Bromite and Firefox, but I'll definitely keep this in mind for some other time when I feel more like it... BTW, I did check, and Chrome stil freezes on the latest 4.2 update, no surprise here.
This ROM has been working great for me, very stable, no issues, and the updates are a breeze, especially with the latest OTA updater.
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You should be able to flash the older Pie firmware without wiping from what I have read but I have not tried that yet. I might try it with the very latest firmware of Pie, PQ1A.190105.112 and see if it screws anything up without wiping the phone. Anyway I always to a backup of the phone to the cloud and also of Whatsapp before I start messing around just in case I have to wipe and so far all my restores have worked perfectly, but yes it is a pain to have to setup wifi's and add back in BT devices and setup security and any double authentication apps you use. Getting used to it now though.
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You should be able to flash the older Pie firmware without wiping from what I have read but I have not tried that yet. I might try it with the very latest firmware of Pie, PQ1A.190105.112 and see if it screws anything up without wiping the phone. Anyway I always to a backup of the phone to the cloud and also of Whatsapp before I start messing around just in case I have to wipe and so far all my restores have worked perfectly, but yes it is a pain to have to setup wifi's and add back in BT devices and setup security and any double authentication apps you use. Getting used to it now though.
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Flashing the contents of the attached files using fastboot should make your device to use last firmware for Android Pie, without losing your current ROM installation.
aamadorj said:
Flashing the contents of the attached files using fastboot should make your device to use last firmware for Android Pie, without losing your current ROM installation.
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OK, here is my update... Noting your comment in the other post about the downgraded baseband, I decided to exclude the modem from flashing. Flashed everything else from PQ1A.190105.112-NOVENDOR via fastboot, rebooted, and... Chrome froze again. Ugh... :\ OK. I went back to fastboot and flashed the modem - this time after the reboot the problem was fixed.
So, I'd say it's safe to conclude that the modem (baseband) is the actual component that was screwing up the Chromium-based browsers. Go figure...
This ROM is great on the PH-1. At the moment I can't get the LED to blink when notifications arrive. The setting is toggled on.
I've installed magisk, nanodroid and microg (not tried that sort of thing before!). Could that have anything to do with it?
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This ROM is great on the PH-1. At the moment I can't get the LED to blink when notifications arrive. The setting is toggled on.
I've installed magisk, nanodroid and microg (not tried that sort of thing before!). Could that have anything to do with it?
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Even with stock rom LED is not blink if you're using stock messages, try Textra and see if it works for you.

Kernel and System UI Crash After Leaving Wi-Fi Range [Others?] [H990]

I've had a strange issue with my LG V20 ever since I got in last year and installed LineageOS 18.1 after rooting my H990 on LG firmware 10d (H990ds10d_00_OPEN_AU_DS_OP_1216.kdz) with DirtySanta and installing TWRP. Whenever I left the range of my Wi-Fi network, I would cause the System UI to become unresponsive while doing certain tasks - Unlocking, going to Settings -> Wi-Fi, expanding the Wi-Fi quick toggle in notifications, and probably a few more things.
This doesn't happen on the aforementioned stock firmware, nor on 10g AU 0117 stock firmware either.
For a while, I dealt with it by simply not using Wi-Fi. This sucked because I couldn't access computers over LAN, mobile data was slower, and it also had a data cap that I had to be wary of.
However, I decided I wanted to fix it.
I saw some recommendations involving installing every Lineage version since 14.1 sequentially until the latest. This didn't make sense to me, as clean flashing shouldn't leave any remnants behind, but dirty flashing that many versions went against everything I'd ever heard of regarding custom ROMs.
I also heard that it could be a modem firmware issue. Since I started on the last version of the stock OS for my region vulnerable to DirtySanta I thought surely not.
I later found out about KDZWriter, and used that to install the latest Nougat version of the stock rom available (also mentioned above). After installing that, I tried installing the latest LOS on top, which constantly informed me that com.android.media had stopped, I still had the LG sounds and wallpapers, and I didn't go through the initial setup - A sign of a dirty flash. I was still crashing in the same way too.
I formatted my data partition in TWRP (the "type yes to confirm" way), and tried again. Same crashes.
I've been awake for a little too long trying to fix this, but :
What I believe ended up working was backing up my /efs and /firmware partitions in TWRP while on rooted 10g firmware, dirty flashing LOS on top, formatting data as before, then flashing my /firmware backup in TWRP.
I'm hoping for this thread to document this issue as well as the fixes that worked for people. I saw tidbits of information spread out everywhere, so I'd like a central repository for it.
I hope this caffeine-induced writeup will help someone else with the same or similar issues.
If I have any more experiences with it, I'll do my best to write them down. Please share your experiences too!

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