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[Q] HTC Thunderbolt (Rooted) Permanently disable updates/How to deal w/ new update

I would like to know how I'm supposed to deal with this new recent update that pretty much disables my phone every single night from when the pushes started (2-3 days ago?). My phone is currently unusable...
Also, I've searched and searched and I can't seem to find any method to permanently disabling all automatic updates on my rooted HTC Thunderbolt, is this possible? I've tried freezing all bloatware, it still pushes updates on my phone, only it's much more aggressive now. The update gets pushed on my phone at least once a day at night without warning.
Just fyi I am a complete noob and it took me probably something like 5 data wipes and several days of searching, trial & error to get my phone rooted.

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Please halp :/

A fix that I found...
Every day last week I had to factory reset my phone after the update bricked it. I rooted my phone after installing an app and I couldn't find its icon with the four pages of crapware icons Verizon forced down my throat. F' them, and the $30 a month they want now to use my phone as a hotspot or to tether. (Rant off)...I found this fix...
The post I found sayz to use Root Explorer but I used the freely available ES File Explorer. After installing click Menu, Settings. Check off Root Explorer and Mount File System As Writable. Change Home Directory to /.
Browse to /system/etc/security/ and look for the file otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak. (Long press on file, menu pops up) I did this two days ago and no more updates bricking my phone.

Otacert zip rename
Ok I have the HTC THUNDERBOLT I have an older firmware I needed to be on in order to ROOT my phone anyways I noticed my phone was trying to do an update to latest firmware I immidietly removed battery to prevent update. Why? because I guess I was on old firmware wich save me time I didnt have to downgrade. Ok so I root phone successfuly and I notice update again trying to happen. so I do the same I defer it maximum 5 days. Im assuming renaming to OTACERT.ZIP should prevent this CORRECT? Thats what i just did just not. Im looking for a ROM that has the latest firmware newest radio bloatware removed prerooted update disabled and STOCK! I know most roms have this disabled so ill look later into flashing roms but I really like stock although I havent played around with roms ever I might like one better.
If anyone out their knows. If I flash new rom does radio come with it too? Im concerned because if I dont have the latest one i wont really get 4g. If it does change it im sure I can just reload the radio right?
If the phone would have completed update would I have a bricked phone?
Or just unrooted?
If it where to brick what would be some solutions.

[Q] Anyone know what the new AT&T LG G2 update is?

Got a notification this morning that there was a new update available for KitKat. I do not know what the update is as I postponed it. I am currently running KitKat 4.4.2 Kernel version 3.4.0. The build is D80020c. I am rooted. I have no other information except that it shows that an update is pending but it will not tell me what the update is and I do not know where to find out what it is.
Anyone have any ideas as to what this is? I am concerned because the last time an update rolled out, it soft bricked my rooted phone.
I spoke with tech support at AT&T and they claim that they do not know what it is and suggested that I call LG for an answer.....

NevetsDrassel said:
Got a notification this morning that there was a new update available for KitKat. I do not know what the update is as I postponed it. I am currently running KitKat 4.4.2 Kernel version 3.4.0. The build is D80020c. I am rooted. I have no other information except that it shows that an update is pending but it will not tell me what the update is and I do not know where to find out what it is.
Anyone have any ideas as to what this is? I am concerned because the last time an update rolled out, it soft bricked my rooted phone.
I spoke with tech support at AT&T and they claim that they do not know what it is and suggested that I call LG for an answer.....
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Don't install it, it jacked up my phone. I was running the rooted mixed partition D80020c and I can't boot or get into download mode now. All I get it a constant reboot back to recovery. Cannot install another ROM, cannot restore a backup. My daughter was playing with my phone and pushed to continue with the install and now I'm trying to unscrew it.

Jank4AU said:
Don't install it, it jacked up my phone. I was running the rooted mixed partition D80020c and I can't boot or get into download mode now. All I get it a constant reboot back to recovery. Cannot install another ROM, cannot restore a backup. My daughter was playing with my phone and pushed to continue with the install and now I'm trying to unscrew it.
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Is there any way to force a not install or deny it? The only option I have is to postpone the install and after 4 hours, it will run again and continue to run every 4 hours unless I find a way to break the cycle. How do I force a no install option?
That is what happened to me last time with the "q" update. I postponed the install (no option to not take it) and it installed itself after 4 hours when I left my phone on one night. I woke up to a bricked phone.....

NevetsDrassel said:
Is there any way to force a not install or deny it? The only option I have is to postpone the install and after 4 hours, it will run again and continue to run every 4 hours unless I find a way to break the cycle. How do I force a no install option?
That is what happened to me last time with the "q" update. I postponed the install (no option to not take it) and it installed itself after 4 hours when I left my phone on one night. I woke up to a bricked phone.....
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I don't know how to permanently disable the update, but I'm sure there's a way. As info, I was able to easily fix my phone with the help of this thread posted by @thecubed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451696. I didn't read it all, but this might be what disables the update.

I'm not rooted. I took the latest update and all is fine. It's google+ fixes and Google wallet support. It actually let me set up tap & pay! I'll have to go somewhere to try it out.
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I got the notification too but figured that it would probably screw things up since I'm rooted and running TWRP so I did a little searching and came across this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50454408&postcount=3 . It's been a few hours since I changed the setting and haven't seen the update notification again although AT&T pushed the update into CACHE/FOTA sometime this morning.
Well scratch that, the notification just came back. I'll try freezing it now.

Well if rooted just use TB to freeze software update. I am also running a mixed partition D80020c. I am on Straight Talk AT&T. Before rooting I tried taking the official OTA of KitKat but for some reason you can't enter an APN type so I couldn't get or send MMS. So I flashed back to the D firmware,rooted,added custom recovery,entered the APN type and then flashed the modified C firmware. You could also use Root Freezer instead of Titanium Backup to freeze

[Q] KitKat Update Issues

The OTA update showed up this morning. I chose to delay it because I was going to need my phone. Went to update it later and it just would not download. Did a factory reset and now when I go to system updates it says "checking for available update." for about a minute then says "check for update is not available at this time. Try again later." What am I missing here?

dwcosby said:
The OTA update showed up this morning. I chose to delay it because I was going to need my phone. Went to update it later and it just would not download. Did a factory reset and now when I go to system updates it says "checking for available update." for about a minute then says "check for update is not available at this time. Try again later." What am I missing here?
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there have been quite a few people with this same issue. i havent seen any direct fix.
if you are locked, i would suggest you wait it out, or wait for the sbf file to get leaked. there is a way to sideload it, but its risky being locked and no sbf to save you if a problem comes up.
if you are unlocked, there are directions in the General forum to sideload the ota. there is no risk if you are unlocked.
if you are locked, the only thing i would suggest to try is re-flashing the stock 9.30.1 with rsd and see if it will pull the update afterwards. there is no guarantee this will work, but your phone will be 100% clean stock after the flash and give you the best chance to grab the ota if available.

dwcosby said:
The OTA update showed up this morning. I chose to delay it because I was going to need my phone. Went to update it later and it just would not download. Did a factory reset and now when I go to system updates it says "checking for available update." for about a minute then says "check for update is not available at this time. Try again later." What am I missing here?
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Did you download it and then said to apply it later? If so, are you rooted? If so, hook up your phone to your PC and adb shell into it. Type "su" and hit enter to go into superuser mode.
Navigate to the /cache directory and you should see the OTA .zip file sitting in there. Copy it to your external SD card and then you can load it manually via the recovery.
If you're not rooted, then you won't be able to navigate into the /cache directory. Or, if you didn't have it download when you got the notice (or couldn't download it), then it won't be there.

More update issues
My wife & son both have the HD. My wife checked for the update this morning, said it was ready and proceeded to download. Update did as it was supposed to and when it was done, she had KitKat and that's when things went a bit wonky.
If she has Bluetooth turned on, WiFi connection drops after a few minutes. She googled possible workarounds and none really worked. As long as she is not using BT, WiFi stays up
Has anyone else seen this behavior? She refuses to let me root it and install a custom ROM as I have done on my Samsung GS4 from VZW.
In the mean time, we've told our son not to take the update until
we know more about a possible fix.

zeb carter said:
My wife & son both have the HD. My wife checked for the update this morning, said it was ready and proceeded to download. Update did as it was supposed to and when it was done, she had KitKat and that's when things went a bit wonky.
If she has Bluetooth turned on, WiFi connection drops after a few minutes. She googled possible workarounds and none really worked. As long as she is not using BT, WiFi stays up
Has anyone else seen this behavior? She refuses to let me root it and install a custom ROM as I have done on my Samsung GS4 from VZW.
In the mean time, we've told our son not to take the update until
we know more about a possible fix.
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Fix was just posted recently. do a factory reset. It sucks, but its the only option.

Factory REst doesn't solve 4.4.2 WIFI issue on Razor MAxx HD
TXKSSnapper said:
Fix was just posted recently. do a factory reset. It sucks, but its the only option.
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Android V 4.1.2 worked flawlessly since Nov 1023 upgrade. Decided to upgrade to KitKat via OTH. Had WIFI connection issues right away ( inability to obtain IP or lost connection, etc.) This happened with Bluetooth ON or OFF, no difference. The Signal strength was much lower than when on the previous android version and subsequent indicated connection speed was at least 1/2 of what I was getting previously.
Worked with Verizon and Motorola tech support personnel and did multiple factory resets with no improvement.
Since I wanted a factory solution and had insurance on the phone, I ordered a replacement phone. Thankfully, the new phone had 4.1.2 and worked perfectly. WIFI issues are gone.
Conclusion, KitKat is not ready for prime time yet. WIFI bug needs to be worked out before I will upgrade again.

egutwillig said:
Android V 4.1.2 worked flawlessly since Nov 1023 upgrade. Decided to upgrade to KitKat via OTH. Had WIFI connection issues right away ( inability to obtain IP or lost connection, etc.) This happened with Bluetooth ON or OFF, no difference. The Signal strength was much lower than when on the previous android version and subsequent indicated connection speed was at least 1/2 of what I was getting previously.
Worked with Verizon and Motorola tech support personnel and did multiple factory resets with no improvement.
Since I wanted a factory solution and had insurance on the phone, I ordered a replacement phone. Thankfully, the new phone had 4.1.2 and worked perfectly. WIFI issues are gone.
Conclusion, KitKat is not ready for prime time yet. WIFI bug needs to be worked out before I will upgrade again.
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That's a shame because for me, the FDR fixed the Wifi/Blue-tooth issue as it did for many others. Might have been a hardware issue (faulty radio, etc).

Not receiving Google Security Updates

I have a Pixel 2 with the bluetooth connection issues. When I go look for the Google Security Updates, it says that I am up-to-date. I did a factory reset and tried to get the update afterwards, but it has the same issue where it is not finding the update.
Has anyone successfully been able to find a way to get the phone to find the updates, or should I get a hold of Google to return the phone?
Thanks,
Mark

I have also not received the November security update, every time I check it says it is up to date. I bought the unlocked version from the Google Store and am using Verizon.
This reddit thread shows a way to potentially force it, i have not tried it yet -- https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._on_september_security_patch_regular_pixel_2/
UPDATE: I have tried it, and it did not work

I also tried it and it didn't work. I would be more patient, but the Bluetooth issue is quite frustrating. I'll give it a few more days then will contact Google again for a replacement device.

Despite they say that the check for updates button now always bring the latest update. There's a lot of people that doesn't get it when pressed and have to wait a few days or weeks to get them like always.
Things that could affect the check for update button:
- Not being 100% stock un-rooted
- Being subscribed to the Android Beta
- and sometimes if you start executing an OTA update and it fails you might need to wait a few days for a second chance.
None of these reasons apply to you obviously but just giving my experience.
The best 100% official workaround to get now the update is to install the update manually using the stock recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Sent from my Pixel 2

thesebastian said:
Despite they say that the check for updates button now always bring the latest update. There's a lot of people that doesn't get it when pressed and have to wait a few days or weeks to get them like always.
Things that could affect the check for update button:
- Not being 100% stock un-rooted
- Being subscribed to the Android Beta
- and sometimes if you start executing an OTA update and it fails you might need to wait a few days for a second chance.
None of these reasons apply to you obviously but just giving my experience.
The best 100% official workaround to get now the update is to install the update manually using the stock recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Are the ones marked Verizon for the Verizon version, or also for people who bought the unlocked version and are using Verizon? My current version is OPD1.170816.010, which is not a Verizon version, so I guess I would want OPD1.170816.025 since the version I currently have is not the Verizon version? Still find it crazy that an update would come this late, never got them this late on my 5X. I never understood the point of if I manually check I cant just auto get the OTA (I know there was that article somewhat recently that they are moving to that though).

I got 023 over the air automatically on my Pixel 2. Haven't downloaded the OTA from the developer site some I got this phone.
OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon

I too bought unlocked from Google but using on Verizon. I was on .10 and waited weeks after release for a push, but it never came. So I manually flashed the .25 update. No issues, working perfectly, with the Nov security update.

I am still on september security update. Got a Pixel 2 (Verizon). Hope they hurry up. Its almost december

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have the same problem ever since I cleared the Google Play Services' data through the app's interface. The OTAs just stopped coming. I have been flashing full OTA images since August, but it is getting really annoying. I still didn't get the November's patch, nor the December's one. It always says my system is up to date. I didn't try clearing the Play Services Framework's data, as it isn't effective and only causes trouble. I tried clearing the Play Services' data though many times, but it doesn't help.
I am rooted with Magisk. Everything else is fully stock (rom, kernel, recovery) and I do pass the Safety Net test.
If anyone has a solution to this problem, please share it with the world. I don't believe that I am the only one with this problem.

Same here, rooted pixel 2, currently away from pc so would love to update from phone
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I've had the same problem with my P2XL for the last couple of month. I have just been downloading the full updated firmware and flashing from my computer, but it would be nice to be able to update while travelling with no computer.
Details:
-Magisk rooted, everything else stock, including recovery.
-Google edition - I used to get updates, not sure what changed.
-Not on beta. I even tried signing up and then unsubscribing. No help.
-"Check for update" button does nothing.
-Clearing data on Google Services Framework doesn't help.
-I'm in Mexico on Telcel, but updates have worked in the past.

Haven't been receiving OTA updates since flashing the Pie factory image in August.
Device is stock apart from being rooted with Magisk.
Update button always says system is up to date, so I eventually sideloaded the latest OTA image at the end of November but still didn't receive any update notification in December.
I'm starting to suspect the update manager in Pie is detecting root or something, because I used to receive updates just fine on Oreo, and everyone else who has this problem also seems to be rooted.

Was stock, rooted on 8.0, restarted phone, now unrooted on 10...WTH?

Need some answers/help...
I was stock, rooted on 8.0....saw a pop-up box yesterday about OTA, didn't think much about since I thought being rooted wouldn't allow the OTA. Have seen the occasional pop-up over maybe the last couple weeks, but I don't normally restart my phone unless it starts to lag or freeze up/run slow. A restart usually fixed that. Was perfectly happy staying on 8.0. I did a shutdown on my phone this evening, and when I restarted it, bam, I'm unrooted on 10 now, specifically, QP1A.190711.020
The phone was bought from Google, unlocked in Oct 2017. I immediately unlocked bootloader and rooted at that time and have been running stock 8.0 since. TWRP and Magisk were used following instructions from the thread here on the forum.
No data was lost after the restart today and 10 seems to be running ok. I did download some data and pictures through my USB-c onto a flashdrive and it did seem to drain my battery FAST while doing it.
What I'd like to know now is how to get root back. I wouldn't mind staying on 10, but if I re-root, will another OTA break my root again? I haven't tried to do a shutdown and a restart again to see what would happen because I'm afraid my phone will brick.
I'm kind of a noob at this, and I don't always understand when you all get technical, but I can follow step-by-step instructions.
First off, how did an OTA actually get through, update and unroot my phone?
And second, can someone point me to step-by-step instructions to re-root my phone on 10, and how do I keep it from happening again?
Thanks for looking and I'd be very appreciative if someone could help me out.
Thank you.
Jim

same here

Same here.
I've got a retail (NON-Verizon) rooted, stock OG Pixel with 8.1 and I've been ignoring the nag to update to 10.
My wife has a retail (NON-Verizon) Pixel 2 that was also stock, rooted 8.1 except she just took the update and asked me about it later.
Both were done with TWRP and Magisk, albeit differing versions.
She's now unrooted at QP1A.191005.007.A1
TWRP v3.2.1-0-walleye is installed.
EDIT: TWRP seems to have been nuked by the OTA upgrade.
I just tried to reboot into TWRP recovery and it's gone.
Magisk Manager app version 5.4.0 (57) + "Latest Magisk Version: v16.0" (I'm pretty sure I rooted via v14.5(1456) though) are present.
"Update Magisk Manager" is nagging about updating /installing MagiskManager-v5.8.2
Root Checker Basic v6.4.6 is also installed.
I'm scared to death to update Magisk or attempt root without some guidance from you fine folks here.
Until then, I'll start having her backup everything she wants to keep in case things go sideways.

I didn't think I was the only one this happened to.
Ok...noticed another issue.
I had Titanium Backup Pro installed. I had several apps frozen before the forced upgrade to 10. Guess what? Those apps are listed as disabled in the app list with no button for re-enabling them. Titanium Backup Pro no longer works because I lost root with the forced update to 10, so I can't unfreeze with Titanium Backup.
Is there any way to unfreeze those apps without re-rooting? Not too sure I even want to attempt to root again.
Also, I haven't shutdown or restarted since the forced update. S3NTYN3L, so you're saying you didn't have any issues restarting/rebooting? Other than TWRP being gone, no other issues?

fjm568 said:
S3NTYN3L, so you're saying you didn't have any issues restarting/rebooting? Other than TWRP being gone, no other issues?
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Correct.
As for "other issues", none that I, or she, have noticed.
Still breathlessly waiting to hear about how I go about re-rooting without data loss.