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Android System Updates in GPE

Since April I've been happily using @lost101 's optimized 5.1 GPE v1.1. Since September my mobile data usage went up and depleted my 150 MB plan, which should be enough for email and chat. It seems that Android System Updates downloads a 7-8 MB package regularly in the background, even when I happen to be on mobile, it doesn't care. I've just flashed v1.3, but I still see that once I open updates view, it offers an update and transfers data without asking.
I used to like GPE, it's very clean, but now it takes away my chance to use mobile data. Should I use a stock ROM, or what else could you suggest?

Is this issue caused by the "new monthly security updates"? Are those the patches named like *.m004? If they are unable to patch on custom ROMs, but keep downloading, I'll never have a normal data usage again.

kuvera said:
Is this issue caused by the "new monthly security updates"? Are those the patches named like *.m004? If they are unable to patch on custom ROMs, but keep downloading, I'll never have a normal data usage again.
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Update to v1.4. That's the latest version. It is based off the GPE M004 update and includes the latest fixes for the Stagefright bugs.
And it might also be the last update for Falcon GPE ever, so you probably won't get an update notification after that
Edit: Dirty flashing from v1.3 to v1.4 caused FCs on my phone. You might have to clean flash, like I did

In 'Data usage' - you can also click on 'Android System Updates' and disable background data on cellular networks. I will see if this can be stopped permanently.

k-kuchen said:
Update to v1.4. That's the latest version. It is based off the GPE M004 update and includes the latest fixes for the Stagefright bugs.
And it might also be the last update for Falcon GPE ever, so you probably won't get an update notification after that
Edit: Dirty flashing from v1.3 to v1.4 caused FCs on my phone. You might have to clean flash, like I did
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Thanks for the info. I'm very disappointed with GPE now, it took me a long time to figure out what took all that mobile data. I turned off almost all syncing at first. Since I don't want to constantly monitor data usage to see if there is a new update, I tried US Stock 5.1. It doesn't have an update now, and hopefully won't have them as aggressively as GPE.

lost101 said:
In 'Data usage' - you can also click on 'Android System Updates' and disable background data on cellular networks. I will see if this can be stopped permanently.
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I don't remember seeing this option, although I looked at Data Usage a lot. Those background downloads appeared as Android OS, for which background could not be disabled. I'm on Stock now...

How do I figure out what is using up all my data?

I typically only use between 1GB and 2GB per month of data. However, this month I was notified that I had exceeded my 4GB limit. I increased the limit to 7GB and within 4 days that was exceeded. I've now shut off all cellular data. When I look in Settings > Data Usage > Cellular Data Usage it shows 7.25GB of data used by Android OS. If I tap on Android OS it lists a bunch of apps like com.qti.service.colorservice and com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp. I don't know if this list is sorted by which service/app used the most data and there's no more detail I can attain by tapping on the apps listed under Android OS.
Since I have dates and times for some of the largest downloads (868MB on March 27, 12:57AM for example), is there somewhere in the file system where I can see a list of IP addresses connected to and their timestamps to perhaps narrow down who/what is sucking up all my data?
Is there a more thorough way of wiping the phone than a factory reset?
Anybody seen this before and have any suggestions?

Did you root or mod it and are missing an uldate? Even with check for updates turned off people are reporting the same thing.

TonikJDK said:
Did you root or mod it and are missing an uldate? Even with check for updates turned off people are reporting the same thing.
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I did root it. Then I found out I couldn't get OTA updates anymore. I side loaded the 7.1.1 Sailfish update, build NOF26W. I'm not sure if a new update has since released. After side loading the update I lost root and was unable to get it back.
Months ago, when I first rooted the phone I had the same problem where the OS would continually download the OTA update, fail installation and re-download it. At the time I stopped it through rooting and disabling the update service directly. When I lost root after sideloading the OTA update I figured it wasn't a big deal since I could turn off updates in the Developer Options.
So you're saying the turn off updates option doesn't work?

VonMoltke said:
I did root it. Then I found out I couldn't get OTA updates anymore. I side loaded the 7.1.1 Sailfish update, build NOF26W. I'm not sure if a new update has since released. After side loading the update I lost root and was unable to get it back.
Months ago, when I first rooted the phone I had the same problem where the OS would continually download the OTA update, fail installation and re-download it. At the time I stopped it through rooting and disabling the update service directly. When I lost root after sideloading the OTA update I figured it wasn't a big deal since I could turn off updates in the Developer Options.
So you're saying the turn off updates option doesn't work?
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It does not work for everyone. Seen it a fair amount, you are the second one today. The other is over in the XL forum.
There is a new update every month. First Monday of the month is when they are released. You are one behind and a new one will be out in two days.

TonikJDK said:
It does not work for everyone. Seen it a fair amount, you are the second one today. The other is over in the XL forum.
There is a new update every month. First Monday of the month is when they are released. You are one behind and a new one will be out in two days.
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Google wants me to RMA the phone. Not sure how that's going to help though since it's a software problem.

I'm having the same issue. But I have one month 80 gig download this month I'm already at 35 gigs. I was rooted at one point wanted my updates so I updated root is gone but everything works fine but ever since then I have been getting these massive download constantly either on Wi-Fi or cellular I turned off so many things that is not funny backup everything and it's still happening hits exactly the same as the person that first created this thread.

darhoade said:
I'm having the same issue. But I have one month 80 gig download this month I'm already at 35 gigs. I was rooted at one point wanted my updates so I updated root is gone but everything works fine but ever since then I have been getting these massive download constantly either on Wi-Fi or cellular I turned off so many things that is not funny backup everything and it's still happening hits exactly the same as the person that first created this thread.
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If you're seeing gigs of data usage attributed to Android OS then it's likely repeatedly downloading OS updates that are failing installation. That's what happened to me.

You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?

darhoade said:
You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?
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Removing root isn't enough. I couldn't get updates to work until I installed a factory stock image and relocked the bootloader.
As far as I know there are 3 options.
1.) Root, block updates and never update
2.) Root, block updates, side load your updates and re-root each time to re-block updates
3.) Run stock, unrooted with locked bootloader and take automatic updates

darhoade said:
You are correct I tried to download my update and it errored out when installing step 2 then redownloaded so in developer I turned off automatically download updates which I don't think it will help as I turned this off before I reset my room so I think it's stuck just redownloading. Have you figured out why our download is failing? Does it have to do with root that we removed?
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You modded something while rooted​ that it doesnt like, or root is not completely removed. You need to flash the update yourself.

VonMoltke said:
Removing root isn't enough. I couldn't get updates to work until I installed a factory stock image and relocked the bootloader.
As far as I know there are 3 options.
1.) Root, block updates and never update
2.) Root, block updates, side load your updates and re-root each time to re-block updates
3.) Run stock, unrooted with locked bootloader and take automatic updates
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im unlocked, no root, no twrp (verizon edition)
and i take OTA all the time...
I think root and twrp kills ota, not bootloader unlocking......
just an fyi

I think root does also because it's worked fine when I first unlocked bootloader. Also I reinstalled stock room and still can't get it's it has to be what root does to phone

Did you try disable the Automatic System Updates from the Developer Options?

High Data Use by com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp
I ran into this issue too after traveling (driving) several days on a rooted Pixel XL (with TWRP and a custom kernel), which at the time was a month behind (running NKG47L, the June OTA for "T-Mobile, Fi carriers, and Rogers").
When I got back from the trip I noticed the phone had used much more data than expected, something along the lines of 75MB per hour (almost a GB a day) -- when all that had been done with the phone (that would use data) was use navigation. Further digging showed the data use was attributed to a process named com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp, and some Googling turned up threads that mentioned QualComm and/or T-Mobile and/or Google FI cellular service, but not many examples of how people actually fixed it.
In my case it was fixed (without losing data/apps), by manually updating to the latest OTA (with this approach), and then re-rooting. But I should also mention I switched from the "T-Mobile, Fi carriers, and Rogers" series (which for July would be NKG47M), to the generic Pixel XL series (NJH47D for July).
My suspicion is the phone was downloading the July OTA with cellular data, then tried to apply it (which failed either because the phone was rooted, or had TWRP, and/or had a custom kernel), and was then repeating that sequence every hour.
So, at least in my case, the moral of the story seems to be... If you're rooted and/or running a custom recovery/kernel, make sure you're on the current OTA before spending a lot of time away from recognized WiFi until Google fixes this! Or, as mentioned in an earlier post, have "Automatic system updates" disabled in Developer Options.

com.quicinc.cne.CNEService.CNEServiceApp and com.qti.service.colorservice are backdoor trojans (they have a few other names but all belong to the same group) to access and monitor your device. You need to check to see if it establishes any strange background connections. Please don't ask me how I know but I feel that I have the responsibility to warn everyone.

Not receiving Google Security Updates

I have a Pixel 2 with the bluetooth connection issues. When I go look for the Google Security Updates, it says that I am up-to-date. I did a factory reset and tried to get the update afterwards, but it has the same issue where it is not finding the update.
Has anyone successfully been able to find a way to get the phone to find the updates, or should I get a hold of Google to return the phone?
Thanks,
Mark

I have also not received the November security update, every time I check it says it is up to date. I bought the unlocked version from the Google Store and am using Verizon.
This reddit thread shows a way to potentially force it, i have not tried it yet -- https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._on_september_security_patch_regular_pixel_2/
UPDATE: I have tried it, and it did not work

I also tried it and it didn't work. I would be more patient, but the Bluetooth issue is quite frustrating. I'll give it a few more days then will contact Google again for a replacement device.

Despite they say that the check for updates button now always bring the latest update. There's a lot of people that doesn't get it when pressed and have to wait a few days or weeks to get them like always.
Things that could affect the check for update button:
- Not being 100% stock un-rooted
- Being subscribed to the Android Beta
- and sometimes if you start executing an OTA update and it fails you might need to wait a few days for a second chance.
None of these reasons apply to you obviously but just giving my experience.
The best 100% official workaround to get now the update is to install the update manually using the stock recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Sent from my Pixel 2

thesebastian said:
Despite they say that the check for updates button now always bring the latest update. There's a lot of people that doesn't get it when pressed and have to wait a few days or weeks to get them like always.
Things that could affect the check for update button:
- Not being 100% stock un-rooted
- Being subscribed to the Android Beta
- and sometimes if you start executing an OTA update and it fails you might need to wait a few days for a second chance.
None of these reasons apply to you obviously but just giving my experience.
The best 100% official workaround to get now the update is to install the update manually using the stock recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Sent from my Pixel 2
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Are the ones marked Verizon for the Verizon version, or also for people who bought the unlocked version and are using Verizon? My current version is OPD1.170816.010, which is not a Verizon version, so I guess I would want OPD1.170816.025 since the version I currently have is not the Verizon version? Still find it crazy that an update would come this late, never got them this late on my 5X. I never understood the point of if I manually check I cant just auto get the OTA (I know there was that article somewhat recently that they are moving to that though).

I got 023 over the air automatically on my Pixel 2. Haven't downloaded the OTA from the developer site some I got this phone.
OPD3.170816.023, Nov 2017, Verizon

I too bought unlocked from Google but using on Verizon. I was on .10 and waited weeks after release for a push, but it never came. So I manually flashed the .25 update. No issues, working perfectly, with the Nov security update.

I am still on september security update. Got a Pixel 2 (Verizon). Hope they hurry up. Its almost december

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have the same problem ever since I cleared the Google Play Services' data through the app's interface. The OTAs just stopped coming. I have been flashing full OTA images since August, but it is getting really annoying. I still didn't get the November's patch, nor the December's one. It always says my system is up to date. I didn't try clearing the Play Services Framework's data, as it isn't effective and only causes trouble. I tried clearing the Play Services' data though many times, but it doesn't help.
I am rooted with Magisk. Everything else is fully stock (rom, kernel, recovery) and I do pass the Safety Net test.
If anyone has a solution to this problem, please share it with the world. I don't believe that I am the only one with this problem.

Same here, rooted pixel 2, currently away from pc so would love to update from phone
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I've had the same problem with my P2XL for the last couple of month. I have just been downloading the full updated firmware and flashing from my computer, but it would be nice to be able to update while travelling with no computer.
Details:
-Magisk rooted, everything else stock, including recovery.
-Google edition - I used to get updates, not sure what changed.
-Not on beta. I even tried signing up and then unsubscribing. No help.
-"Check for update" button does nothing.
-Clearing data on Google Services Framework doesn't help.
-I'm in Mexico on Telcel, but updates have worked in the past.

Haven't been receiving OTA updates since flashing the Pie factory image in August.
Device is stock apart from being rooted with Magisk.
Update button always says system is up to date, so I eventually sideloaded the latest OTA image at the end of November but still didn't receive any update notification in December.
I'm starting to suspect the update manager in Pie is detecting root or something, because I used to receive updates just fine on Oreo, and everyone else who has this problem also seems to be rooted.

New H918 Oreo Security Update

So the wave of the Oct. Security Update for the H918 is out. This new version is completely safe to update since this is still ARB 1 (See attached pictures).

Is it strictly security, or are there any UI/UX bugfix or additions?

nfc problem
bro , your nfc working ? i dont know why my nfc wont turn enable.. im using lg h918 v20 upgrade to oreo but the nfc wont enable.. when i click enable they turn disable quickly.. any solution ?

Ak7J4 said:
So the wave of the Oct. Security Update for the H918 is out. This new version is completely safe to update since this is still ARB 1 (See attached pictures).
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I got this notification for a system update and I just rooted about a week ago.
Since im rooted can I accept and install the system update. If yes how do I do this in twrp. Will I loose root?

pvaldeben said:
I got this notification for a system update and I just rooted about a week ago.
Since im rooted can I accept and install the system update. If yes how do I do this in twrp. Will I loose root?
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If you accept, the phone will go into a bootloop since the stock recovery has been replaced by twrp. So don't accept the update. Reflashing the ROM would stop the bootloops if you just so happen to accept it.

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Is it strictly security, or are there any UI/UX bugfix or additions?
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To me I believe its just strictly security tbh since I haven't noticed anything else. I will see if performance has been improved or not

Ak7J4 said:
To me I believe its just strictly security tbh since I haven't noticed anything else. I will see if performance has been improved or not
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Cool. I won't stress it then. Thanks

pvaldeben said:
I got this notification for a system update and I just rooted about a week ago.
Since im rooted can I accept and install the system update. If yes how do I do this in twrp. Will I loose root?
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Actually I did accept it when I first saw the notification then when I realized I was rooted (about 4 years without root) the phone booted in to TWRP and I freaked out ... so I moved the slider to see TWRP was asking to enter some sort of password or key for it to continue. but then I saw the cancel button and I cancened and it took me back to the main TWRP screen where I just rebooted the system without issues.
The only reason I rooted was because OREO battery life was 10 % per hour weather I touched or did not touch the phone. I thought this security patch might have battery optimizations.
But thanks for your replay, I'm going to stay away from this system update since I'm rooted not. I guess I got luck and not bricking my phone.

20G Security Update Changelog
FYI
Software versions & updates: LG V20
Android Security Bulletin—October 2018

Question issues with updates

Hi, i have a Pixel 7 pro (no carrier, eu, stock, locked bootloader) and am experiencing the following:
until yesterday i was running:
security update: november
play system update: october
os: october
i tried with the pixel repair tool to no avail. so, yesterday i applied for the beta... installed, rebooted (many times) and... still stuck with the stable from october. i then downloaded the official ota and applied it... now i have
security update: december
play system update: october
os: december
now, why the play system won't update? also, the privacy and security settings are still separated... for what is worth, the free VPN has already been active for a few days.
is my OS broken? should i try with sideloading the update again? i'm not in the mood for a reset and i have many apps (banking too) which would be a hassle to config again.

ujh said:
Hi, i have a Pixel 7 pro (no carrier, eu, stock, locked bootloader) and am experiencing the following:
until yesterday i was running:
security update: november
play system update: october
os: october
i tried with the pixel repair tool to no avail. so, yesterday i applied for the beta... installed, rebooted (many times) and... still stuck with the stable from october. i then downloaded the official ota and applied it... now i have
security update: december
play system update: october
os: december
now, why the play system won't update? also, the privacy and security settings are still separated... for what is worth, the free VPN has already been active for a few days.
is my OS broken? should i try with sideloading the update again? i'm not in the mood for a reset and i have many apps (banking too) which would be a hassle to config again.
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I updated yesterday to Dec.Release, I I'm with this. To be honest, don't know if is as expected

well, fair enough... it may be a slow rollout of single features...? -.-

ujh said:
Hi, i have a Pixel 7 pro (no carrier, eu, stock, locked bootloader) and am experiencing the following:
until yesterday i was running:
security update: november
play system update: october
os: october
i tried with the pixel repair tool to no avail. so, yesterday i applied for the beta... installed, rebooted (many times) and... still stuck with the stable from october. i then downloaded the official ota and applied it... now i have
security update: december
play system update: october
os: december
now, why the play system won't update? also, the privacy and security settings are still separated... for what is worth, the free VPN has already been active for a few days.
is my OS broken? should i try with sideloading the update again? i'm not in the mood for a reset and i have many apps (banking too) which would be a hassle to config again.
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Android Pixel updates get rolled out in phases, meaning it's not available for everyone at the same time. Maybe you need to wait an hour, maybe a day, maybe a week.
If you feel the need to immediately update at the earliest time possible, you should look into ADB flashing.

Morgrain said:
Android Pixel updates get rolled out in phases, meaning it's not available for everyone at the same time. Maybe you need to wait an hour, maybe a day, maybe a week.
If you feel the need to immediately update at the earliest time possible, you should look into ADB flashing.
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That's true... But about the settings tabs not yet unified?

ujh said:
That's true... But about the settings tabs not yet unified?
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I updated to december and also have not gotten that "feature", it's likely that it's a google sided switch/ App update that is necessary to change that, meaning it's not at all necessary to update the firmware of the phone factually, but Google still wants the "feature drop" as a sales argument, hence the big focus on the firmware updates, even though the actual features could easily be delivered as in-app updates.

yeah... i read somewhere else that that "feature" and others will be available with an upcoming update within this month... lol

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That's true... But about the settings tabs not yet unified?
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I think that's part of the PermissionController APK, which is part of the PermissionController Mainline module. So I think Google needs to update that Mainline module before we get it.
However, you should be able to toggle the flag on with this adb command...
adb shell cmd device_config put privacy safety_center_is_enabled true