Where are all the custom roms for this phone?
There is only a handful of ROMS with the Touchwiz interface. Are people not likeing this phone or something?
There are literally dozens of threads on this issue already.
So what is the general consensus on it?
Sent from my SM-G920T using XDA Free mobile app
Exynos processor = No AOSP support.
Sent from my SM-G920I using XDA Premium HD app
That sucks.
Sent from my SM-G920T using XDA Free mobile app
I personally feel asop/cm roms are two boring and I stick to TW. There are a few roms available for the Edge.
I have rooted with pingpong root, but not sure if I want to void warranty on such an expensive phone yet with a custom rom.
dwarfer66 said:
I personally feel asop/cm roms are two boring and I stick to TW. There are a few roms available for the Edge.
I have rooted with pingpong root, but not sure if I want to void warranty on such an expensive phone yet with a custom rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do people even care about KNOX? What does it matter if it voids a carriers warranty, it's crap anyway. There are other warranties like Squaretrade that will replace the phone even if KNOX is tripped.
How do you sign up for square trade?
Sent from my SM-G920T using XDA Free mobile app
Brittany_Menton said:
Why do people even care about KNOX? What does it matter if it voids a carriers warranty, it's crap anyway. There are other warranties like Squaretrade that will replace the phone even if KNOX is tripped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because people don't want to pay for something that is free. Warranties from companies like that will only mean you getting back substandard work or a refurb, and you have to pay for it? Why would you ? lol.
---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------
nafeasonto said:
Where are all the custom roms for this phone?
There is only a handful of ROMS with the Touchwiz interface. Are people not likeing this phone or something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think there are only a few because it's already perfect stock. Never thought i'd say that about a phone lol.
Jonathan-H said:
Because people don't want to pay for something that is free. Warranties from companies like that will only mean you getting back substandard work or a refurb, and you have to pay for it? Why would you ? lol.
---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------
I think there are only a few because it's already perfect stock. Never thought i'd say that about a phone lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Besides all the bloatware, it is perfect yes. XtreStoLite is perfect tho. Almost stuck, besides all the bloatware + few annoying things removed like S-Finder in notification panel + volume warning.
Obagleyfreer said:
Exynos processor = No AOSP support.
Sent from my SM-G920I using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well it takes time but eventually it does get support !
Jonathan-H said:
Because people don't want to pay for something that is free. Warranties from companies like that will only mean you getting back substandard work or a refurb, and you have to pay for it? Why would you ? lol.
---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------
I think there are only a few because it's already perfect stock. Never thought i'd say that about a phone lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you keep getting a phone that fails when it was refurbished, they send you a check for full value of the phone when you bought it. Some phones aren't even worth fixing and they just send you a check.
It's a risk insurance company, they don't care about fixing the device. They calculated the odds of someone making a claim, that's how they make their profits. Refurbishing just allows them to save more money, but not all phones can be refurbished.
bhavstech said:
well it takes time but eventually it does get support !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only if someone is interested with literally going through hell. Making stuff like CM for Qualcomm bases is a piece of cake, but doing it for Exynos is like reinventing the wheel. Eventually maybe yes, but it will be a stony and long path for whoever decides to do it.
mythos234 said:
Only if someone is interested with literally going through hell. Making stuff like CM for Qualcomm bases is a piece of cake, but doing it for Exynos is like reinventing the wheel. Eventually maybe yes, but it will be a stony and long path for whoever decides to do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
don't forget that all past samsung phones with exynos had cm support...it was buggy but still better than nothing...it will get cm support but it will take a bit of time...
Wasn't the galaxy sIII Exynos?
hajyihia said:
don't forget that all past samsung phones with exynos had cm support...it was buggy but still better than nothing...it will get cm support but it will take a bit of time...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If someone is interested in building it, sure. How well will it run? Thats indeed a different story. I'm syncing with the CM repos as we speak and going to see if we can get a 12.1 build running. Btw, You do know that CM doesn't add support? Devs make a build and submit it to them and it can then be considered official.
nafeasonto said:
Wasn't the galaxy sIII Exynos?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both, there were versions with Qualcomm and versions with Exy
Brittany_Menton said:
Why do people even care about KNOX? What does it matter if it voids a carriers warranty, it's crap anyway. There are other warranties like Squaretrade that will replace the phone even if KNOX is tripped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On what planet does that work?
Knox means where i live, no warranty at all, and people dont even want to buy it.
Android-Desire said:
On what planet does that work?
Knox means where i live, no warranty at all, and people dont even want to buy it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any plan that covers accidental damage (including water) they will always replace the phone. If you tell them it has been water damaged and you purposely submerge it into water, they don't even bother checking the device because water damage cannot be repaired.
I called T-Mobile and their protection set plan will cover claims of accidental damage even if KNOX is tripped.
mythos234 said:
If someone is interested in building it, sure. How well will it run? Thats indeed a different story. I'm syncing with the CM repos as we speak and going to see if we can get a 12.1 build running. Btw, You do know that CM doesn't add support? Devs make a build and submit it to them and it can then be considered official.
Both, there were versions with Qualcomm and versions with Exy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same with the GS4 and Qualcomm and Exynos
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920AZ
Related
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Wow!!!!!
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
Yeah, between att and Samsung there is a bit more than average.
Sent from my Xoom using xda app-developers app
Bloat will always be the first thing to go.
How do you disable those on the phone?
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
poker? lol
only google and samsung service application remain ,remove the others will be safe.
wow that is sad, soon we be free, carriers i **** on you
Holy crap. That's insane.
type R-blood
Yeah I've got to say with the locked bootloader and all this bloat, my initial impression is not that great, unfortunately. Day to day use, the phone is not as fast as my GS3 running slim bean.
Screen and hardware are fabulous, but they really effed up the software this time around. Just went wayyyyyyy overboard. And locked bootloader? Come on now
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
soritong said:
How do you disable those on the phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings >more >application manager >all
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
SysAdmNj said:
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far I haven't had any problems with all of this junk disabled.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
It's more of a matter of form on AT&T's and Samsung's part.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
Typed on savaged goods.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
aleph_0 said:
Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty sure there was less than 10gb free space before I even installed any of my own stuff.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That bloatware is what is causing the lag online reviewers have been mentioning. If you disable/remove it, the phone will have no lag at all.
I'm hopeful to see some AOSP-based ROMS so I can remove the bloat known as TouchWIZ.
aleph_0 said:
I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
Typed on savaged goods.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my previous post I was referring to Samsung software.
---------- Post added at 01:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:43 PM ----------
phositadc said:
The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Being the best is debatable. Nevertheless if you want a pure stock experience, then you might as well get a Nexus 5 when it comes out. It will be unlocked, cheaper, and probably have better specs.
I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
Thermalwolf said:
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
mattdm said:
If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
delete
wttisme said:
Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
Sent from my SGS III
SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
cl_l said:
Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They may not notice but at&t sure will
SysAdmNj said:
They may not notice but at&t sure will
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
mattdm said:
No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
So I went in to best buy today to have them flash my phone back to stock. I had talked with the guy the other night for a while and he was pretty open to helping me out no matter what. I left my phone with him while I looked around. When I came back he said that the sock firmware was flashed and that the updates were installing now. I asked what updates and he told me that since my phone came with MDL that is what was installed and that the updates had to be installed to bring it current. I asked him if he could have stopped the process before the updates and he said he could have if his boss wasnt there. He said that Verizon has a single package that won't allow this but that it's possible with att.
That would definitely explain why AT&T hasn't made the MF 3 updates available via kies yet
Just thought I would throw this out there in case it helps the effort somehow.
I'm kind of out of the loop on this latest update and Best Buy stuff. Why are people going to Best Buy to flash phone back to stock. How come ya'll don't just use ODIN to go back to stock?
I bought my phone the first day it was released. But I can flash AMDL with ODIN.
Once you update to MF3 you cant downdrade to MDL using ODIN or Kies and there is no image that will work with ODIN or Kies for MF3
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
The day I got my AT&T branded s4 before the clerk handed it to me he said that he updated it for me wish he wouldn't have. I didn't know best buy could flash the firmware. Would be nice to revert so I could flash.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Well the only way that would work is if they flashed MDL with a different bootloader...just like Att most of these best buy people have NO idea what they are really doing,
Samsung provides them a program and they just press some buttons...in the beginning it seemed like every best buy had to call Samsung and have Samsung walk them through the process
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
---------- Post added at 01:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 PM ----------
CZ Eddie said:
I'm kind of out of the loop on this latest update and Best Buy stuff. Why are people going to Best Buy to flash phone back to stock. How come ya'll don't just use ODIN to go back to stock?
I bought my phone the first day it was released. But I can flash AMDL with ODIN.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The official mf3 update came with a new bootloader which blew a qfuse that makes it impossible to flash anything lower than mf3 ...problem is we don't have an mf3 image to use for Odin, and than Samsung gave best buy a special program that allows them to reflash mf3 firmware
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
mg2195 said:
Well the only way that would work is if they flashed MDL with a different bootloader...just like Att most of these best buy people have NO idea what they are really doing,
Samsung provides them a program and they just press some buttons...in the beginning it seemed like every best buy had to call Samsung and have Samsung walk them through the process
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
---------- Post added at 01:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 PM ----------
The official mf3 update came with a new bootloader which blew a qfuse that makes it impossible to flash anything lower than mf3 ...problem is we don't have an mf3 image to use for Odin, and than Samsung gave best buy a special program that allows them to reflash mf3 firmware
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All I can tell you is that the Samsung rep told me it flashed MDL and then updated to MF3. I have no way to verify that so it's entirely possible he was blowing smoke.
Soccer1725 said:
All I can tell you is that the Samsung rep told me it flashed MDL and then updated to MF3. I have no way to verify that so it's entirely possible he was blowing smoke.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you just go back and ask him to reflash back to MDL for you? Just tell him you'll update on your own or just take the sim out when he flashes so it won't update itself.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
hmm all this sounds interesting, I may make the trek out to a best buy for some social engineering!
Please report back...... really want to get back to cm
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
Yes please report bk
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
deron37129 said:
Yes please report bk
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me see what i can do. I work for BestBuy (not Samsung) .
well, I am under a license suspension so it may be a bit b4 i can get out to a bestbuy,
But i have been calling samsung, and att customer support numbers, even live chatting. On every occasion, I have been told it's not possible to perform a downgrade. No reasons givin just it's not possible. Was even offered to send the phone to samsung for a free flash of firmware. Which when i asked which version it would be, I was told the latest.
Don't worry I will keep at it lol it's kinda fun messing with support
---------- Post added at 11:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 PM ----------
l Frosty l said:
Let me see what i can do. I work for BestBuy (not Samsung) .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just dont do anything that may cause you to loose your job, would hate to see that happen. Looking for information on flashing tools, or procedures used by tech support, not ppl at best buy but when you send it to samsung, or the provider. Any kinda of info would be nice, like names of software/tools etc.
13lack13ox said:
well, I am under a license suspension so it may be a bit b4 i can get out to a bestbuy,
But i have been calling samsung, and att customer support numbers, even live chatting. On every occasion, I have been told it's not possible to perform a downgrade. No reasons givin just it's not possible. Was even offered to send the phone to samsung for a free flash of firmware. Which when i asked which version it would be, I was told the latest.
Don't worry I will keep at it lol it's kinda fun messing with support
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My only thought is (from what i read in other forums and possibly here as well) that its not possible (qfuse and such). But i will see whats the dealio with their stuff.
Im not gonna attempt to lose it. I'm Curious. I have an S4 so this directly would effect me as well. I know everyday i see people getting phones updated via ODIN/Download mode. They always say its quicker.
And honestly MF3 isn't so bad now that theres an alternative with Safestrap from Hashcode. But i can understand the potential of having a full bootloader unlock.
No can do. The software will not go below the latest. There Is no option for it either. It only shows MF3 available.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
man...thats a bummer :crying: my phone had some weird hardware issue where the screen contrast was borked so I had to go through the warranty replacement department and now im stuck with mf3 firmware and no way around it :crying:
Are basically all new S4s coming with MF3 installed already?
Knight613 said:
Are basically all new S4s coming with MF3 installed already?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's kinda of a toss up just depends on the inventory on hand at that location
ronnie498 said:
It's kinda of a toss up just depends on the inventory on hand at that location
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll keep that in mind. I would really like to get an S4, but I'm way too scared it'll come with MF3. Just feels like the odds of MF3 models ever seeing Kit Kat are very slim at this rate. Hopefully the 4.3 update that's scheduled to come out soon leads to new exploits though.
Knight613 said:
I'll keep that in mind. I would really like to get an S4, but I'm way too scared it'll come with MF3. Just feels like the odds of MF3 models ever seeing Kit Kat are very slim at this rate. Hopefully the 4.3 update that's scheduled to come out soon leads to new exploits though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do like I did & go to your good old local Walmart & ask them if they have one on MDL. When I got mine a week ago, the guy checked for me & all of the ones that he had were on MDL. They're cheaper at Walmart also. I paid like $135 ($65 cheaper than the AT&T store) & they threw in a $40 Walmart gift card.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
RobbieL811 said:
Do like I did & go to your good old local Walmart & ask them if they have one on MDL. When I got mine a week ago, the guy checked for me & all of the ones that he had were on MDL. They're cheaper at Walmart also. I paid like $135 ($65 cheaper than the AT&T store) & they threw in a $40 Walmart gift card.
Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would but there's literally no Walmart near me. Stupid city being against big corporations. We just got a Target this year. Is there a way to tell on the box what firmware it'll come with?
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
Sent from my SM-N900W8.
DrawnToLife said:
Well I mean.. They do in Korea so.
Sent from my SM-N900W8.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your argument is invalid until you prove it with evidence.
Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The LG G3 AndroidCentral has for review is the Korean version and it is an early prototype.
Recently a law was passed in Korea which makes all bloatware pre-installed on a phone un-installable. This law is obeyed by all phone companies in Korea.
Since other countries have not taken such action against unwanted apps on phones, it is highly unlikely that Samsung or any other company will make bolatware removable in a future update.
They knocked back Kitkat for the S3 due to the bloatware in the rom needing too much RAM....I don't think they are gonna worry about people wanting to remove the bloatware, what they give you stays... Even if it means they won't update a Star phone...
Someguyfromhell said:
Your argument is invalid until you prove it with evidence.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was under the impression that it had either happened or was in the process of happening.
http://www.zdnet.com/south-korea-rules-pre-installed-phone-bloatware-must-be-deletable-7000025533/
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/24/south-korea-delete-preinstalled-android-apps/
Maybe it hasn't happened yet, but I do recall that it's been rolling out to some extent. I'll try to find a better source later.
Edit: Okay, so apparently the Korean S5 can remove some bloat.. but by the next iterations it should be happening :L
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303873604579493233990755384
I'm wrong. My bad.
Someguyfromhell said:
I find it highly unlikely Samsung would allow such thing.
EDIT: Also, please enlighten me, where did you take that information from. Your link does not include such information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.
Neo3D said:
http://www.lg.com/global/g3/index.html#features010203
Well, I think if most of their customers leave feedback on their FB page about the ability to remove bloatware, then they will get the message.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Feedback is just a feedback. They have company policy to follow. Thumb up if they can change any of their company/product policy, but so far I know seldom retailer will follow customer request.
Neo3D said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
If we pester Samsung on their Facebook page, do you think they will push out an update to let us do the same? There's so much crap on our phones that I wish I could uninstall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im sure the EU recently passed a bill that forces mobile manufactures to give end users the option to remove bloat ware? which is probably why LG has lead the way first.
if only samsung let us
Neo3d is an obsessive poster I see nothing but constant posts and threads made from the individual lol I'm like wow so much time on Ur hands
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
sent from my sm-9005.
Meh! Root your device and be rid of bloat. Makes no difference to me either way.
Sent from my U30GT 2 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
sent from my sm-9005.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But the best option is to allow for the software to be uninstallable.
For those who want a phone and don't delve as deep into tech as the majority of users on these forums, all the in-built software is more than enough for them. For those who want more customisations, then we get the choice of uninstalling the programs.
Best of both worlds really, plus it's not forcing us to use their crap. Heck, we're still using their phones at least!
If the LG G3 released here in HK is 32GB/3GB then I'm gonna swap my Note 3 straight away.
@rbiter said:
I got an idea. How about give us stock android, and the bloat be uninstallable? Some of the bloat built in breaks things bit as apps would help ram and interface be smoother.
sent from my sm-9005.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just buy a nexus for Stock Android
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Free mobile app
---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 PM ----------
I dont understand the disskussion about bloatware.. If you dont like it, buy another Phone or better use a 3310 Nokia ) nobody force you to buy a overbloated Phone and at least you can root and debloat it.. Even if your Phone is unrooted you can just deactivate any application
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Free mobile app
if this news are TRUE - then WOW WOW WOW. but based on what i've read from your posts guys - it is NOW for the KOREAN brand ' correct me if i'm wrong ' - so my Q although it is kinda stupid - will it be applied on international version of G3 ?. if the answer is NO then my next Q is will the KOREAN version work in my country ?
We're using the Korean Olleh (KT) variant of the phone — LG-F400K — running pre-release software, on the EE network in the UK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There.
Q - how is LG's attitude towards DEVELOPERS ? is it good ?
If LG comes like this NOTE 4 will have a pre-installed app called SAMSUNG S-ROOT:laugh:
So I always root every single phone I get days into getting it. It has been different with this one. I want to root it so badly but I really want to use Samsung Pay. Chase Bank JUST got support, even though I don't have Chase, my girlfriend does so I can use her card from my phone lol.
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
I don't even know what I'm asking, any input? Thanks folks!
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
You will probably get better help if you had a moderator move this to the T-mobile Q and A threads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I'm not on much.
Squarez said:
I haven't been able to find anything indicating KNOX won't be tripped by ANY root method or even being reversed. If I could reset the KNOX counter then I will root away, but there isn't anyway to do that.
Edit: It's a T-Mobile Note 5 SM-N920T
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
apd said:
Nope - not going to happen. Rooting the Note 5 trips the Knox flag and it cannot be reset. Pingpong root (which didn't trip Knox) was killed off before the Note 5. If you root there will be no Samsung Pay (and the like), probably ever.
That said I rooted - as you can see from my signature I also have an iPhone, which I use for Apple Pay, so no worries!!!!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got a chance to use Samsung Pay with my girlfriends Chase card today and I'm not impressed. I waited all this time for nothing. Oh well, time to root. Any suggestions on method and ROM?
Root - no strong feelings!
Rom @drketan L6 - love it!!! And a responsive developer - fabulous!!!
Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk
lol.
You should really root. Opens up so many possibilities. Ad blocking, titanium backup, cache cleaning, the list goes on and on.
Not to mention the roms.
I'm on Tek's latest rom and it's sooo much better than stock.
Just borrow her chase card.
---------- Post added at 09:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 AM ----------
Here's how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187422
---------- Post added at 09:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 AM ----------
This is the rom I'm running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3201869
I am in the same situation. Not asking if I should root or not but haven't decided for myself. Been with android since 08 and have rooted every phone I've had, Knox is a different animal all together and, tho I like the note I know I won't be with it for too terribly long. I think tripping Knox will hurt the resale...I remember why I didn't care for Samsung all to well now.
Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
Android_Monsters said:
Yeah, come to the dark side. Root for all the people on the other carriers with locked bootloaders.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amen. I myself am a recovering AT&T victim and I was so bummed when I learned they lock the bootloaders. That's one of the main reasons I switched to T-Mobile
On topic: Root it. Samsung pay is sorta cool, but sacrificing all the features you get with root for one sorta cool feature doesn't add up to me.
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
darkjedi said:
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
correct my fellow xda member. With the xml that shuts down so many apps and the ability to change my fonts and finally nova launcher. With all this in place and a 1+ that I have rooted and running marshmallow life is grand. To those that say you are not impressed with the ability to not carry you cards with you and simply touch and pay you make no sense. Also why root a Samsung phone which can be used at 95% of the places you go and keep an Apple because of Apple Pay? If there is Apple Pay then there is Android Pay and Samsung gives you two options.
Sorry just my opinion on things but I root to remove bloat and increase battery life. Of course some options are great but I have found alternatives which help me cope. First phone since winmo days that I have not touched per se
TarquinnBlackwood said:
Don't really see how tripping Knox effects resale since most buyers wouldn't know how to check. Just root. Life's too short.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guess it's honesty. I wouldn't sell something without disclosing pertinent information. It's not this short life I am worried over.
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
---------- Post added at 04:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:32 AM ----------
I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
darkjedi said:
I don't miss root at all. Especially with AdGuard and the ability to use my custom font, I'd rather have Samsung Pay and updates when they're out.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Adguard?
beep
Here's the link for adguard:
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
Looks like they are not on the playstore.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
But, if you buy a used phone you expect the first owner to have used it. It's like saying you won't listen to music on it cause you might hurt the speakers.
I'm glad you're happy being not rooted. The note 5 is awesome stock.
As for me, I got mine the day they were released and was rooted the second I got to my cpu.
I've no regrets. I had to do an exchange. They gave me a new one no questions asked.
Knox isn't really the big deal people think it is.
---------- Post added at 04:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:32 AM ----------
I'm religious, too. Just hate the bloatware that comes with the stock rom, need my root apps, and love me some roms.
To each their own.
Trust me. I work at a cell phone store. You won't have any trouble selling your note 5 when you want to part with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right, to each their own. I have been on androids since the g1 pre order October of 08, rooted all my phone's and compiled cyan or AOSP for most of them. This is the first phone I have had that by rooting you actually lose something useful besides warranty. I agree, root is better but with the ability to still block ads and literally turn off services it's not as important to me as it once was. Your music analogy is flawed tho, listening to music should in no way void your warranty or remove a feature of the phone. Odds are, in an exchange situation they probably wouldn't even check, they could tho.
You are right, most people wouldn't know how to check for Knox but those same people probably know how to use pay, and an ever increasing chance they will want to.
Hard to say this after hating touchwiz for so long but you are right again, after a bit of tweaking the note isn't all thar bad stock, if I decide to keep the phone for a length of time, I will root it depending on software updates etc but that's also an added feature with android, it's your choice. I'll take the perceived hit on selling it with full disclosure.
Both of you have valid points.
I rooted because I hate, Hate, HATE FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND WHAT'S APP AND ALL THAT OTHER BULLSTUFF!!! Sorry got intense there. Bloat does nothing but steal, and for a device that has to be so "secure," they are sure keen on securing the wrong things.
I really do hope no information such as credit card info is being shared by the Bloat apps. Yes they say Samsung pay is secure.....*1 year later* Have you or anyone you know used Samsung Pay?!
Just saying, you never know. I rather use my card itself anyways. No one has successfully stolen it yet. Weird thing too though, as I'm getting older; and I'm 29, I've been using cash a lot more often instead of swiping my card.
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk