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[Q] Warranty hard bricked AT&T A2 ?

Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
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Yes, they ask for your personal information so that they can confirm that you are a customer. They won't give non-customers replacements.. And, Motorola only tells you to send it in for repair...
Let's put it this way, I was on the phone with Moto for almost 2 hours and they only offered me to send it in for repair (or, call my carrier and see what they can do). And, I was on the phone with AT&T for 5 minutes total, and they offered me a replacement within 3 minutes, before I could even ask for one...
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But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:

vinamilk said:
Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
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Just go to the Motorola mobility site for the atrix 2 and either chat with a support rep through the website, or there is a number to call them at the bottom of the page. There was someone else already who contacted them and was told that they do not support the A2 in that persons country, and they would not even allow him to send the phone in for repairs, even for a price. The only way you can know for sure, is to contact Motorola directly.

Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it to my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know how Moto's behavior is before I do it.

vinamilk said:
Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it for my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know Moto's behavior before I do it.
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That right there will probably save you some huge headaches, since the AT&T version is a US phone... just realize they might be able to JTAG the device and see that the ICS leak was applied, and give you no support. Just want to let you know that, just so you get prepared. You might think about finding someplace that can JTAG it for you, that is in your half of the world. I am guessing there are places on the web that do that service, which you can send it to.

Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...

vinamilk said:
Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.

jimbridgman said:
Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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Off topic but
I followed the sg3 train too. Thought it would be delivered yesterday. Going to have to what til Monday. Should have gone to best buy and just upgraded there.
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Mine says I still have warranty, so it is a really good news for me.
But I live in Aruba I don't know how to send it to them.

Apex_Strider said:
Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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The s3 is a truly wicked piece of hardware. Gonna steal the wifes for awhile when i get home.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.

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Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Man... Still stuck with A2. I need to gather up $500 somehow!!!

Apex_Strider said:
Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Good luck, I hope you get it, it is a bad A$$ phone, and so easy to do anything to and you have CWM working by default on this phone.. just flash the rooted image with ODIN and then install ROM Manager, and have it flash the latest version of recovery and touch recovery works so nice.....
All I can say is you will love this beast.

I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?

sjc807 said:
I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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Nope.
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Clericgram said:
I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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The SGS 3 all the way... the one x does not have an SDcard slot, so you HAVE to have unlimited data, and if you don't then you are going to be screwed if you like to have music and pics and stuff at your fingertips, because you will have to use cloud services for all that. Oh and the one x does not have a replaceable battery. Oh and AOSP and AOKP have official builds for the SGS 3, good luck with that on the one X.

Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.

sjc807 said:
Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...

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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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That's pretty much what I told them lol. As long as they don't realize that I updated to the leak I'll be fine. Thanks again, I feel better now.

Trading my wifes s3 to iphone 4s need input?

Hey all just to be clear first off this is not a discussing to bash me or my wife for her wanting to go to an iphone. She has decided it I have a trade set up with someone for a 32gig s4 and its done so please no bashing me or her lol!!!
Anyway! Her phone has synergy 1.3/lmo kernel 12-2. We are meeting the person at a verizon store so we can swap and activate the phones in confidence. I want to return hers to stock. I have the stock bloated zip downloaded and will do it via odin. My question is should I worry about the flash counter taking it to the verizon store to do this swap? They can't deny me a swap for it being flashed can they? Just reload stock ics and go with it?

They can't see the flash counter. Unless they go into download mode to look for itm . It won't b a problem The swap take two minutes . Youre all good!
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afmracer6 said:
They can't see the flash counter. Unless they go into download mode to look for itm . It won't b a problem The swap take two minutes . Youre all good!
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Excellent I will not worry about it then. Thank You!

jws86 said:
Hey all just to be clear first off this is not a discussing to bash me or my wife for her wanting to go to an iphone. She has decided it I have a trade set up with someone for a 32gig s4 and its done so please no bashing me or her lol!!!
Anyway! Her phone has synergy 1.3/lmo kernel 12-2. We are meeting the person at a verizon store so we can swap and activate the phones in confidence. I want to return hers to stock. I have the stock bloated zip downloaded and will do it via odin. My question is should I worry about the flash counter taking it to the verizon store to do this swap? They can't deny me a swap for it being flashed can they? Just reload stock ics and go with it?
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You know I'm biting my tounge.
Anyway, you can also look up the free triangle away on XDA. It costs 2 bucks on Play Store, but XDA members can get it for nothing. That will erase the flash counter to zero.

&roid said:
You know I'm biting my tounge.
Anyway, you can also look up the free triangle away on XDA. It costs 2 bucks on Play Store, but XDA members can get it for nothing. That will erase the flash counter to zero.
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this is true also...
the people in verizon just want to get a sim into the phone to get you out of there.
if you arent buying something they just want you out so the can get back to selling

Yep not gonna worry about it. On another note I just tried going back to stock on her phone via odin. Downloaded one of the stock fully bloated ics roms...followed the directions and the odin never said pass/reset. It just sat there after it took 2mins 37 secs. I battery pulled unplugged and rebooted to recovery and it rebooted to cwm recovery. I reboot phone from there and it booted back to synergy and the kernel. any suggestions? Just try again? I dont want to brick this damn thing trying to trade it tomorrow lol

I'm sorry but I'm not biting my tongue. That is a horrible trade....you're giving up the latest technology for a phone that's almost a year old and only has 3G speeds. What your wife should do is throw the S3 up for sale on ebay for $500 now, use another phone for a few months and then buy the iphone 5 when it comes out in November.

jws86 said:
Yep not gonna worry about it. On another note I just tried going back to stock on her phone via odin. Downloaded one of the stock fully bloated ics roms...followed the directions and the odin never said pass/reset. It just sat there after it took 2mins 37 secs. I battery pulled unplugged and rebooted to recovery and it rebooted to cwm recovery. I reboot phone from there and it booted back to synergy and the kernel. any suggestions? Just try again? I dont want to brick this damn thing trying to trade it tomorrow lol
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Yeah, it didn't upload the ROM to the phone correctly. Make sure you're using 3.07 Odin also to flash the full .tar file and you're putting in the PDA slot in Odin.

jasondhsd said:
I'm sorry but I'm not biting my tongue. That is a horrible trade....you're giving up the latest technology for a phone that's almost a year old and only has 3G speeds. What your wife should do is throw the S3 up for sale on ebay for $500 now, use another phone for a few months and then buy the iphone 5 when it comes out in November.
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Its really none of your business.

Try switching usb ports also, my front ones are kind of flaky with odin, as are my rear usb3 ones...the back usb2 however works fantastic and has never given me a problem. Just remember some people it takes 1 minute flat, and others it takes 10 minutes.

I finally got it thanks guys

I've been using Odin 1.85. The 3 version has been fishy for me. Also. If you have root 66 or something just use it. An apple person isn't going to check or know anything about 1 icon that says superuser. Also restart your computer. It helps sometimes
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they normally in that case dont check the download triangle

Being nice here, but has she used the smaller screen on the iphone extensively?
After setting my wife is with an HTC inspire she thought she wanted an iphone 4s too until she used one in store and decided the screen is too small.
Point is, she's making a huge downgrade. Maybe have her use it for 10 minutes in store before the person getting the s3 makes off like a bandit
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stevenjcampbell said:
Being nice here, but has she used the smaller screen on the iphone extensively?
After setting my wife is with an HTC inspire she thought she wanted an iphone 4s too until she used one in store and decided the screen is too small.
Point is, she's making a huge downgrade. Maybe have her use it for 10 minutes in store before the person getting the s3 makes off like a bandit
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If his wife wants a iphone, then so be it...Im pretty sure the op understands quite well its a downgrade, but remember we talking about the wife here. Sometimes you have a better chance to get struck by lightning than convincing them of anything!

To each their own. I showed my wife the iPhone (coming from a dinc) and the Nexus and she went straight for the Nexus. It's all user preference. No need to bash.
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My wife, the iphone fangirl to the bone, hated the Nexus and Razr Maxx and spent less than 5 mins to come up with that conclusion. Then while she's waiting for the iPhone 4S replacement from verizon, she saw the S3 from their store and was won over instantly. We're both using the same phone and while i cried over losing the Note when we switched carrier, this is truly the one that resembles it the closest. To each his/her own but this phone makes iphone lovers drool.
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My input. Jailbreak that s*** and rob the app store for all they got
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Remember guys, Happy wife happy life.
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iPhones are smart phones on easy mode, the way my GF handles technology, I'd prefer she has one as well
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what does power button do normally on stock?

does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
thanks

I think it shows hibernate and airplane mode and reboot. Its been so long since I've seen it I can barely remember. I've been rooted since the day I got this phone lol.
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djcyph said:
does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
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I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
And it's just a standard menu on stock when holding power, nothing like a rooted custom from menu.
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heath2805 said:
I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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yea def wont send back rooted...yea think ill say something like that, wont turn on all the time and when does shuts down cuz power button is in

yea i was curious to what the standard menu consisted of so i sounded more like i was on stock

I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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disconnecktie said:
I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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i know not to send back rooted, ive unrooted b4....just want to know whats on the stock power menu lol

Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.

bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound

djcyph said:
bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound
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Id call back and talk to a different person, then tell them the button fell out (you did not pop it out) if that dont work get escalated (talk to their manager.

Milimbar said:
Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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that sounds like a load of crap
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I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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+1 lol Verizon has no way to tell your rooted unless they have your phone in front of them. If they knew, you would be warned as soon as you root your device. Where do these people get their info?? Lol
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I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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Yeah most of them don't really care anyway. I had a touch pro 2 from Sprint, first phone I ever rooted. I panicked because I had to send it back, didn't know how to re-lock! Finally after searching and reading and searching I figured it out! Lol
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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.

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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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This is BS because if that's the case they would have made me pay full price on two different occasions for phones that were rooted when I sent them back.
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Milimbar said:
They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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Seeing the radio version doesn't tell any carrier that someone is rooted. Being rooted is software related not radio related. Not unless custom radios are around, which is not available for the tbolt and im sure not for any other phone for that matter.
The only info phones send to the network is account information so the tower knows whether or not to provide service. That's it.
If they knew more details about a device then they would have no reason to ask us about our phone. They wouldn't waste their time as the info would pop up on their computer screens. If they saw anything other than the latest official OTA, then they would tell you that they can't do anything and that you voided your warranty so even switching back to stock won't make them change their mind.
The fact they would "waste" time to find out every detail from you pretty much sums up that this info is NOT available to them. CSRs like to help the customer as quickly as possible to get them off the line and help the next. And at this moment, asking customers about their phones is the quickest way.
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So you think that those little forum signatures that can tell you what OS you are running, what browser and even your IP know more about your phone than your carrier?
Must be nice to be that gullible.
Think what you will, I know for a fact they can see the information. They literally don't care. The warranty is through another company and has nothing to do with Verizon. It is also perfectly legal to root your phone and do what you want with it as of July 26 2010 http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/26/rooting-android-phone-longer-crime/
The only thing it does is void any extended warranty you bought. So do restore to stock for returns to asurion and the likes.
They ask you because the lower tier CS people do not have access to your phone information, if you are escalated enough you will eventually find someone who can and will rattle off all your information to you.

If you can provide proof then I will take back what I said and apologize. I've played dumb before in the past just to see if it was possible for tier 2 and 3 (technical departments) to know this information. I simply stated that I didn't know how to access the about phone section. They tried to "help" me access this section and i pretended I was getting frustrated. I asked them to see if there was a way for them to see it on their systems and they told me no. They couldn't "help" me with my pretend issue unless I gave them this info. So all I was given was generic troubleshooting tips. They then stated to take it to the store for the CSR to look at my phone for the software version. I did this on a couple of occasions just to get a different Rep each time.
Yes, your mobile browser sends browser info to a website, and OS info. User agent strings are sent so that a website will know how to display the website on the browser. You can easily set the user agent to the stock HTC user agent. But this is irrelevant to Verizon as I can install different browsers on my phone which have unique user agents for each one. Just because my phone sends a dolphin user agent or maxathon user agent and not the stock HTC user agent, this does not imply I am rooted.
OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prop and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
All the IP address provides is the owner of the IP address (i.e. verizon) and in some cases, the general location of where the IP is being used. Verizon's LTE/EHRPD network use private IP addresses so it would be difficult to pin point a phone or information based on IP. This network uses Dynamic IPs so your IP will not be the same all the time. You have to pay extra to get a static address (business account). It is illegal to use an IP to gain access to any additional information unless a court order demands this.
The point of this is that you can pretty much make your rooted phone appear stock if it was really necessary to do so. Its a variant of Linux and Linux is very easy to work with if you know what you are doing.
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OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prob and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
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Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.

Milimbar said:
Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.
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If you can root your phone, then its a start. Your typical average user doesn't know what root means or even care what possibilities exist. I am pretty much the only person at my job who is rooted and I've had people ask me how I got my phone to look a certain way and they want their phone like this. When I explain the root process, they say screw that. Most people I know who are rooted know exactly what they can do with a rooted device. And new comers to rooting eventually pick up speed. Linux may be intimidating at first, but once you play around, you see how easy it is.
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Update coming

None of this sounds too exciting.... Never had the no sim error personally.
www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-software-update-fixes-no-sim-error/
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Ryno77 said:
None of this sounds too exciting.... Never had the no sim error personally.
www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-software-update-fixes-no-sim-error/
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well that's underwhelming for people who like to use the stock firmware, wonder if verizon will get jellybean out for the s3 this year...was at my local vzw store yesterday and the sales guy was surprised to see a touchwiz-less S3 running jellybean. then i got an earful about voiding warranty when all i went there to do was get a sim for my wife's nexus. (my old phone, just replaced it with the S3 this week)

Happy to see that error being killed. A couple of areas around Rochester are basically s3 dead zones thanks to that. Not quite as exciting as jb but... enough to make me happy.
galaxy. s3. synergy. yadda yadda.

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well that's underwhelming for people who like to use the stock firmware, wonder if verizon will get jellybean out for the s3 this year...was at my local vzw store yesterday and the sales guy was surprised to see a touchwiz-less S3 running jellybean. then i got an earful about voiding warranty when all i went there to do was get a sim for my wife's nexus. (my old phone, just replaced it with the S3 this week)
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The JB upgrade will most likely come in late 1st Q.

No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...

I had a sim error once, when I went to install my SD card I realized the vzw rep didn't fully insert the sim card... never again since then.
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Elite49 said:
No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...
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This is a Verizon only issue that NEEDS to be fixed. It is bull that Verizon wasted time locking down the bootloader that they screwed up their device... but to people who live in one of the "dead zones" the phone is all but useless as anything except a music player. Just because it's not an issue you have suffered doesn't mean it's not a necessary and needed fix.
galaxy. s3. synergy. yadda yadda.

Elite49 said:
No new radios? Nothing updated that needs to be?
Typical verizon and this ****, didn't a UK Update come out in July that fixed some issues? Where the hell is that one...
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Typically, Verizon updates follow general releases to the international and other carriers by 6 months.

chamberc said:
Typically, Verizon updates follow general releases to the international and other carriers by 6 months.
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The NO SIM error is ridiculous, and I am glad this will fix it. For those who don't know, some people can hardly use their S3 at times. I've had instances where every time I try to send a text for 20-30 minutes, it says sending, I lose all connections (no network at all) for a minute or two, then it reconnects, rinse, repeat. This happens when trying to send texts AND making a phone call. Imagine if you had an emergency and every time you tried to call your network dropped for 2 minutes.
But I don't know what else this will do to the phone. Disable current root methods? Bootloader issues?

Zalithian said:
But I don't know what else this will do to the phone. Disable current root methods? Bootloader issues?
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Yes, many of us have the same issues, even in great 4G areas like DC. No new sim card or handset replacement would ever fix it. Took long enough for VZW to release this fix.
As usual if you are rooted/unlocked/running a ROM do NOT download the OTA update. Wait less than 24 hours for someone on the forums to debloat and flash manually. Obviously if you are stock, rooted, and locked go ahead and take the update VZW pushes out.

fearlesspaula said:
Yes, many of us have the same issues, even in great 4G areas like DC. No new sim card or handset replacement would ever fix it. Took long enough for VZW to release this fix.
As usual if you are rooted/unlocked/running a ROM do NOT download the OTA update. Wait less than 24 hours for someone on the forums to debloat and flash manually. Obviously if you are stock, rooted, and locked go ahead and take the update VZW pushes out.
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Yep, planning on it. I'll wait a little longer to be safe. But I would love to be able to use my phone where I have full bars on campus.

Anybody else surprised there was no leak for this build? Or any other build for that matter? Especially having it go live within the week. I don't know maybe seeing so many leaks on previous devices over the years has left me spoiled. Regardless I am looking forward to some new radios.
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ajd88 said:
Anybody else surprised there was no leak for this build? Or any other build for that matter? Especially having it go live within the week. I don't know maybe seeing so many leaks on previous devices over the years has left me spoiled. Regardless I am looking forward to some new radios.
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It is possible it won't include new radios.

I'm not familiar with how these updates work on a Samsung phone.....I had a droid x2 and when that phone received and OTA update it would prompt you to download and install the update. I am assuming this will work the same way? I'm stock unrooted but don't want to get stuck that way....I'll let a few people here download and install and say it's safe before installing

Ryno77 said:
I'm not familiar with how these updates work on a Samsung phone.....I had a droid x2 and when that phone received and OTA update it would prompt you to download and install the update. I am assuming this will work the same way? I'm stock unrooted but don't want to get stuck that way....I'll let a few people here download and install and say it's safe before installing
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Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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+1

SlimSnoopOS said:
Don't forget it could install without you actively accepting it. Recent Verizon phones have been known to do this.
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That's not good. I really have no desire to root the phone at this point but this may push me in that direction. I'm surprised that's legal.... When updating you typically lose all service briefly, which I would think is a choice up to the user. I would be pissed as hell if this thing updated without me ok'ing it.
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con247 said:
It is possible it won't include new radios.
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there is a new radio VRLG7
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phone search still nerfed, doubt that ones coming back in the USA.

I had this no sim error only in a few places around my home area... but one of those areas included my house. Two new sim cards and two new S3s later, I am extremely happy to hear about this fix! Oddly enough, I never got a no sim error here on a 2 week business trip to Utah.
Had to manually load the update tho, now all is well! Thx for the tip!
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Hrmph. I buy and sell a lot using the ebay app. The update killed the app.

Just got the update pushed to my phone. Deferred until we find out if the new version is rootable/unlockable.

Buying T-Mobile S4 instead of AT&T?

hi guys,
so i am in the market for a new phone and decided to sticking with Samsung and going to an S4. the problem is that with all the bs about the locked bootloader, i do not feel confident about buying the AT&T model and to be honest, i also don't feel like giving AT&T any of my money. so that leaves me with 2 options: go with the GE which is a lot more expensive and also only comes in white or just buy a T-Mobile model and get it unlocked so i can use it on AT&T. so my question is if anybody here did that and just bought a T-Mobile model and runs it on AT&T?
any other advice?

I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for a few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running on or anything like that.
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How much did it set you back the tmobile branded one? Can you just walk into a tmobile store and buy one outright?
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r_diaz13 said:
How much did it set you back the tmobile branded one? Can you just walk into a tmobile store and buy one outright?
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http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-4-tmobile/us
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prata said:
I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for some few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running out on or anything like that.
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Are these roms AT&T roms or tmobile roms? That can be your issue, make sure if you are running tmobile roms to apply the right apn

joshuadjohnson22 said:
http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-4-tmobile/us
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Are these roms AT&T roms or tmobile roms? That can be your issue, make sure if you are running tmobile roms to apply the right apn
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so technically all you need to do is get he t-mobile phone, unlock it and then run whatever t-mobile rom you want and simply manually set the ATT APN?

Rattles said:
so technically all you need to do is get he t-mobile phone, unlock it and then run whatever t-mobile rom you want and simply manually set the ATT APN?
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That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.
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time to do some more reading but i am pretty sure that i will go for the t-mobile one (can you tell that i really really don't want to give AT&T any money?).
edit: looks like you are right and most roms will work on the t-mobile device, you just need the correct kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

Rattles said:
time to do some more reading but i am pretty sure that i will go for the t-mobile one (can you tell that i really really don't want to give AT&T any money?).
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Lets just say if I was in your shoes and had the option of paying for the full price of the phone I would do the same thing.
I am more than satisfied with my active but if tmobile sold the active you bet I would get it

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Lets just say if I was in your shoes and had the option of paying for the full price of the phone I would do the same thing.
I am more than satisfied with my active but if tmobile sold the active you bet I would get it
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trust me, if it was up to me, i would have kicked AT&T a LONG time ago since i really do hate this company and how they treat their customers. however, since i don't actually pay the bill (my company pays for my phone and it is their account), i don't have any other option.

Rattles said:
trust me, if it was up to me, i would have kicked AT&T a LONG time ago since i really do hate this company and how they treat their customers. however, since i don't actually pay the bill (my company pays for my phone and it is their account), i don't have any other option.
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Honestly I do not mind AT&T at this point. Yes, locking down phones and cheating people out of money bugs the crap out of me... but they have been really good to me.
In the last couple of months they have:
1. Let me upgrade to the HTC One for $200 without charging one of my upgrade and waived the activation fee
2. Gave me the option of canceling all my lines early or take credits for my trouble
3. Gave me about $300+ in credits
4. Told me that I can upgrade early on my line that isn't available for an upgrade until May of 2014 (just as long as it is not an iPhone)... I'm going to save it for the next big thing.
How can I complain?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Honestly I do not mind AT&T at this point. Yes, locking down phones and cheating people out of money bugs the crap out of me... but they have been really good to me.
In the last couple of months they have:
1. Let me upgrade to the HTC One for $200 without charging one of my upgrade and waived the activation fee
2. Gave me the option of canceling all my lines early or take credits for my trouble
3. Gave me about $300+ in credits
4. Told me that I can upgrade early on my line that isn't available for an upgrade until May of 2014 (just as long as it is not an iPhone)... I'm going to save it for the next big thing.
How can I complain?
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your experience is much different than mine and i agree, hard to complain after what they did for you.

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your experience is much different than mine and i agree, hard to complain after what they did for you.
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Yeah I got really lucky. Talked to all the right people and they were great. I find that you have to push a little and they will help, don't accept the first thing you hear. Everyone at AT&T will give you a different answer so it can be hard. I also noticed that a lot of them have different policies and things they can do. They have no idea what the other call centers are saying.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah I got really lucky. Talked to all the right people and they were great. I find that you have to push a little and they will help, don't accept the first thing you hear. Everyone at AT&T will give you a different answer so it can be hard. I also noticed that a lot of them have different policies and things they can do. They have no idea what the other call centers are saying.
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looks like i am the new owner of a used T-Mobile Galaxy S4. just bought one off of ebay for $490 unlocked with a case and spare battery.

prata said:
I bought the t-mobile s4. I run it on AT&T and have had no real problems. The one thing that I have noticed, running a few custom roms, is that LTE drops in and out.
I've also noticed some weird behavior regarding talk and data. If I take a phone call, data ceases to work for some few seconds. I'm pretty sure this is an apn setting or a rom issue. Nothing to do with the network I'm running out on or anything like that.
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I have the issue where I can't use data while on the phone as well :/
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toxicpaulution said:
I have the issue where I can't use data while on the phone as well :/
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wait are you using the T-Mobile one like he is?

Rattles said:
wait are you using the T-Mobile one like he is?
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Nope. I'm on att with an att sim. Its weird.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
That or just run a AT&T Rom. I am under the impression they are the same device, once you confirm that I would recommend just running an AT&T rom to avoid issues. If I am wrong please someone let me know. It would have to be the non Loki version.
Their may be some international roms you can flash as well
Please double check this information before flashing, even though they seem to have almost everything in common they may differ in minor ways (radios and so on) I do not have a S4 to test and have not read around.
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I have run AT&T as well as T-Mobile ROMs. I believe you need to (I have been doing so, after getting a black screen) run a T-mobile kernel though. None of the custom roms I have flashed have radios or modems in them. Generally, custom roms don't include them, because well terrible if you flash the wrong thing.