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Anyone else experiencing issues running out of RAM?

Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?

Yes absolutely I am in the same boat. I am running the latest M build of CM10.1 and this is driving me nuts. I think this is a ROM problem I ran stock 4.1.2 for a long time and I could go days without a reboot with a big mem kernel.
Maybe apps are using more and more memory as well now? I just don't remember CM being like this it has only been recently that something has gone horribly wrong.
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My mom uses Nexus S running stock 4.1.2 and she also faces the running out of RAM. The phone is damn slow and most of the time is left with only 20MB of free RAM. I was thinking of installing CM 10.1 to see if it helps.

I have the exact same problem with 4.2.X ROMs. My phone runs out of memory and becomes sluggish. If I reboot it would be fine for a day or two and then slow again. This is why I am still in cm 10 stable.
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Do any of have the "hold back button to kill app" activated. This is truly the best and easiest way to kill the app from using the memory.
Also do u guys have ur apps on ur SD card or on the phone memory. Having the apps on the SD card allows for a better responsive phone.
Try a different ROM that has less on it. Especially"Google now" its a memory hog! Some ROMs like Slimbean have to option to not install it when installing the ROM & Gapps.
Install the ROM without extras. If it works fine before ur added apps then it could be an app that is also killing ur memory.
Also if u read ur ROMs thread, people will recommend a certain kernel that works well with it. A newer kernel can & will improve the phone's performance by far... But tread carefully since it can also cause more issues if used improperly.
Lastly this phone is like any other computer, it needs maintenance so make it a simple habit of rebooting it every night just as u go to bed so it can reset and charge the battery properly without anything extra running in the background.
Good luck
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Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.

onmyouji said:
Yes, I also have the same problem. Right now I'm running CM 10.0 stable.
The ROM is quite stable and the battery life is good. But every 3 - 4 days I have to reboot my phone because it becomes very slow.
I think JB is not meant for our device. I'm gonna try Slim Bean next and see how it performs. If it's still slow, I'm going back to Gingerbread.
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I'm running Slim-Bean 4.2.2 on my Nexus S and it's just as bad as CM 10.1. JB was just not meant for a device that is now 2.5 years old.
GB is really where I have seen optimal performance from my device, but CM 9 works pretty well too.

I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
jokkir said:
Pretty sure the device is just getting old but I've been running out of RAM way too constantly causing many processes (including system processes) to be killed and in a constant restarting state. The only way to fix this is to restart my phone.
I'm on the latest CM10.1 Nightly, using the 7.3 marmite kernel (which I believe has the BIGMEM patch to add a bit more RAM). I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing thing or if it's a ROM problem. And yes, I tend to fully close apps fully before exiting it so it's not hanging around in memory.
Anyone?
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krymson0 said:
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Wow thanks this app seems a life saver.

krymson0 said:
I did have problems. After downloading Greenify my phone stopped acting so slow as well as having about double the battery life.
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Greenify, though seems to work, is one of the apps that gets killed when running out of ram. The apps I'm using to free RAM (Tasker, Greenify, etc) all want to get killed when running out of RAM. :\

Guys just go back to CM10 then you'll have more free ram 4.1.2 is the best os version for our phones!
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Honestly guys try the greenify app it really is magic. Even if greenify gets killed the apps that it has hibernated won't come out of it unless you launch an app. And greenify will start again automatically it won't remain killed.
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Greenify + Seeder
Matr1x kernel

[Q] [Help] phone reboots when using game killer

Whenever i use game killer on an aosp rom and when i look for the values it reboots. i have tried on paranoid android and liquidsmooth and same thing happens. is there any specific settings on how to use it with an aosp rom? it works fine on touchwiz. any help with this will be gladly appreciated.

Did you happen to find out how to fix this?

since1876 said:
Did you happen to find out how to fix this?
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Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
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picarito said:
Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
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I have used it on kairosoft games and never had any problems with it so I can't help you out.

Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.

since1876 said:
Thousands of people do my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.
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You know the old saying "Doc it hurts when I do this" .
Well don't do that then....
If your RAM is half full consistently, then your ROM is broken. The Android (Linux) OS memory manager strives to keep the RAM 80% used /full all the time so that apps load faster. If its less than that you either don't have any apps installed or, you dorkeked something. Lots of times people try to use auto task killers, which work against the OS and cause much memory thrashing and gnashing of teeth and resultant poor performance. Having 60% of the RAM free might make you feel better, but it won;t make your phone faster, just the opposite.

[Q] Xperia J NeutronMP - how to reduce heavy lags?

Hi,
I'm using a Xperia J with Cyanogenmod 10.1(month ago installed) and the NeutronMP, because I have some 24 Bit/96kHz flacs, which only NeutronMP undestands them. The little better Quality is a reason too. But every time, when I'm using this, i get some heavy lags and most of the time listening to music isn't very nice.
Firstly, what's the reason for that? Too low CPU/RAM, low performance on sd card? Every time I've looked in task manager, it seems to be (relative) normal. In addition, i haven't got any performance hungry apps running in background.
Secondly, how can I reduce this? What would be most effective?
Thanks in advance,
Lg

CM 10.1 for J was never stable stick to CM 10 and don't use that crappy audio engine

Racer X said:
CM 10.1 for J was never stable stick to CM 10 and don't use that crappy audio engine
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Do you mean Neutron with "crappy audio engine"? I Haven't found a alternate player, so i can't choose.
I will install CM 10 later. Other things i could do?
thanks anyway.
EDIT: furthermore, i think "that crappy audio engine" is the reason, it can play all of my files.

TheBigApple said:
Hi,
I'm using a Xperia J with Cyanogenmod 10.1(month ago installed) and the NeutronMP, because I have some 24 Bit/96kHz flacs, which only NeutronMP undestands them. The little better Quality is a reason too. But every time, when I'm using this, i get some heavy lags and most of the time listening to music isn't very nice.
Firstly, what's the reason for that? Too low CPU/RAM, low performance on sd card? Every time I've looked in task manager, it seems to be (relative) normal. In addition, i haven't got any performance hungry apps running in background.
Secondly, how can I reduce this? What would be most effective?
Thanks in advance,
Lg
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I stuck with stock when I got my J, I did however flash a new kernel to allow me to overclock to 1.3ghz. Do a search for vengence kernel and flash that. Don't flash the newest one though, stick with v1.40 (later versions do not have oc facility)

You see, most people think OC actually speeds up their phone, well it doesn't. Only wastes battery, get CM 10 and use Riches Kernel or use my ROM if you want a stable and fast jellybean.

Of course overclocking speeds up the phone. You are increasing your CPU speed to the maximum that the hardware will allow. Yes there will be slightly less battery life, but that's a given. Its swings and roundabouts. Personally I find that there isn't a noticeable difference in mine (I still get 2 days on regular usage), but with the extra 300MHz I get from overclocking I no longer have the heavy lagging I had on the stock kernel. If there are no benefits from oc, how do you explain all the tests that prove you wrong?
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Thanks for your ideas, i will test both versions. But i don't know really, what exact is too less.
EDIT: btw, I've installed CM 10, and it isn't really better. But anyway, i didn't thought it would change the world.

which rom you installed CM 10.1 ?

Suxter said:
which rom you installed CM 10.1 ?
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Now I have installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10] (FXP248). I thought, i had installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-1], but i can't find the package; so it could also have been this: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-2] (FXP248).
But it really doesn't matter, what of these versions I had installed, because they have all the same (bad) performance for my NeutronMP. Right?

If you wanted to stick with cm10, I think that Rom supports the vengeance kernel so you could get the best of both worlds
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TheBigApple said:
Now I have installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10] (FXP248). I thought, i had installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-1], but i can't find the package; so it could also have been this: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-2] (FXP248).
But it really doesn't matter, what of these versions I had installed, because they have all the same (bad) performance for my NeutronMP. Right?
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so you tell us, you installed unsupported CM 10.1 / 10.2 & your phone is laggy & not working it;s functions ? :laugh: :laugh:
i loled , because you installed unsupported CM versions to your phone & says its very laggy lol
be careful next time, because maybe it'll end with soft brick or hard brick like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550937 ( phone main board change after he installed that rom )

There are many more ways to improve a phone's performance
Install A Custom Rom,
Mods like Supercharger or Crossbreeder which benfit battery life
OCing is not bad but it is also not beneficiary for the device

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so you tell us, you installed unsupported CM 10.1 / 10.2 & your phone is laggy & not working it;s functions ? :laugh: :laugh:
i loled , because you installed unsupported CM versions to your phone & says its very laggy lol
be careful next time, because maybe it'll end with soft brick or hard brick like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550937 ( phone main board change after he installed that rom )
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My phone only is lagging, when I'm using NeutronMP, never with other apps. (I don't use other performance hungry apps like games, but anyway.)
I asked this, because I've had the same problems when I've used NeutronMP with the stock android.
@ all: thanks for your replies.

Why is there so much hype towards ROMs and kernels?

Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents

I think if varies for the phones and locations, but I was getting some pretty beastly battery life, smooth/fast experience with vanir and Franco. For some reason I just didn't like stock and was not getting as great battery life. I've tried many things and some are good, but there are better (to me at least). I'm just running Lollipop now and can't seem to go back to kk.
It all comes down to ones preference really...
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wait , isn't cm12 for OPO currently a little unstable? i really wanted to give it a shot but i fear that it is too unstable for a daily driver

Working fine for me; I don't think it is to the point where it can't be a daily driver. I'm really liking it so far, the Lollipop experience feels really nice and smooth.
Check comments from others on the threads to see the kind of issues they're having. Devs are doing daily builds so as days pass it gets better and better.
Sent from bacon with lollipop!

tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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Sounds like you didn't do any kernel configurations at all to experience changes.
On AK, with Synapse and UKM, you can change numerical values to configure how the phone handles processes. Default kernel settings aren't optimum for every phone.
My settings consist of: slim (300-2457), CPU boost driver (10ms, 1574MHz, 30ms, 1190MHz), CPU Volt (-35mV), I/O sio @ 1536KB read ahead, drop caches, laptop mode, Vibrator at 25, Fast Charge at 1500mA, C1 (Retention) disabled, 120 second Wifi Scan interval.
With those settings, it makes a HUGE difference compared to stock, as well as fix bugs (screen artifact/tearing) before they were fixed on the latest firmware, and increases battery life by 1.5 times stock.

tohno said:
Hi all
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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I have the same questioning but without any problems that you had/have/ My phone works perfectly ( crossing fingers ) and i've had it since July. I always used to ROM my S3-S4-S5 to get a new feel of the phone, but with the Oppo i don't see the reason to. Maybe it's because CM is pretty near pure stock Android, and that's what we get when we switch ROMs on big brands.

tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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OP, it is not just you. Folks who mess about with custom ROMS, as the other posts here share, do so because they can customize the total phone experience, leaving things off, and putting other items on, to their liking. Giving that the background OS is stable, and the apps a person selects are stable, there should be little to no difference in 'performance', overall, due to the apps. However, you may get performance differences because there are less TSR's currently running in your system, so more memory is available, etc, which can make mainline apps run faster.
So many reasons to do custom apps.
As you said, and I agree, CM is a nice, generally smooth OS/ROM. I am coming from an LG G3, which I like very much, but to customize (remove all the junk), and fine tune (remove Google calling home = less battery live, etc), it take's some time to setup those conditions. With CM, most of the junk is not present at the onset (AT&T largely). Much more clean. I would like Google to be disassociated from CM completely, so that it is an add on only, providing better control of the base CM. I would like this in an official CM ROM/official variation.
That is the reason I have/am switching over to the OnePlus. I have tried a few custom ROMs as well, and the stock CM seems to have the best stability, reliability and consistency, to date. I suspect that will change when a large update comes out, such as L, and a great amount of energy goes into that development. I just changed from 38 to 44 last night on three OPO's. It took 5 minutes, or so, a piece, and all of the data/previous apps, setup etc, stayed with the updates, making for an all too easy update.
Awesome. Next will be "L". I will wait for the CM official, as that will likely be the most stable, as I suspect it is getting the most attention from the CM team, at this time. CM is a pretty nice OS.

[Q] Why is my N5 so slow ?

I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...

mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1

Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.

I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way

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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...

daedric said:
No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?

I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.

What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?

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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x

yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?

Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)

Memory issue
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes​ cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.

daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla

Char_G said:
What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.

daedric said:
And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2

I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0