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Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.
We're not going to get official support for 5.0 if that's what you mean. As for custom ROMs, I'm sure it will happen eventually.
Once Android 5.0 L is officially released, we intend to bring this latest upgrade to many of our other Motorola devices, as well. This includes Moto X (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G with 4G LTE, Moto E, Droid Ultra, Droid Maxx and Droid Mini. We're still working out the details on timing and the upgrade depends on our partners' support so stay tuned to our software upgrades page for the latest and greatest.
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http://www.motorola-blog.blogspot.hu/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html
...and it begins...Took less than a day for someone to ask. It's not even released yet. Coming to the Razrs? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Unofficial, maybe? These things are at EOL and they received a barely functioning official KK update.
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Moto kind of hinted at the possibility of having other devices on Lollipop, but I'm not holding my breath this time.
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Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.
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We're not even going to get KK 4.4.4 officially. The only way we have that is via custom ROMs like CM11.
Those of us in the soak test were told that this latest OTA (.15 release) was the FINAL release for this phone. No more updates. That came straight from a Motorola person in the private soak test forums.
So, don't hold your breath for an "official" Lollipop release. As others have stated, you might see it via Cyanogen or some other custom ROMs, but that will only be for those who have unlocked bootloaders. Those who have already upgraded to the latest OTA without unlocking are screwed forever.
Besides, CM11 for this phone has just recently become completely stable. L isn't even out yet.
here's is how its going to go down.
L comes out nov 3.
cyanoagen inc /PA will merge the code to their repos; take about a month before the first nightly comes out. cm11 is EOL as they move to Lollipop.
gummy slim and others will take the cm base and fork to get their ROMs running too.
then dhacker epinter etc. our great maintainers will port to our devices; first nightly will be for the very brave.
about 2-3 months of bug fixes until it becomes usable.
give or take by feb we have a daily driver of android L
question is with the f* ups of jjbl and kkbl which kernel will be supported to L, i'm sure cm will use a custom kernel just like it did with cm11 before the moto kk ota.
paranoid android to make l for msm8960 unified
just saw a reply from cj360 he will be working on l for msm8960 devices jbbl and kkbl. he said dont hold your breath ait will take a while
Gr8 stuff so far!
I'm enjoying my recently renewed phone anyways!
Btw, this L inspired Nova Pro customizable theme rocks and ART runtime is superb!
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Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon
the build
cartpig said:
Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon
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I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!
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I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!
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No, it has issues. Blue-tooth is wonky and Netflix and Google Play Movies won't work (you can't watch anything).
DHacker told me via Twitter that it's due to the DRM libraries. He hasn't figured out the right combination yet to get it working,
But, other than that, it works well.
11/16 has the battery percentage in the notification icon.
11/17 apparently has radio issues. Some people have reported that it works for 5 minutes and then the radio dies. A reboot fixes it for about 5 minutes, and then it dies again. Might want to stay away. I'm going to test it, and if I see the same issues, I'll go back to 11/16.
On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.
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On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.
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There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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Thanks. Just posted my impressions of running the 11/16 build on that thread.
So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad? Xposed doesn't work on it, and if you're running a custom ROM you're already more than likely modified beyond anything that "Android L" is going to give you...
Other than "material design" and "ART" (along with being near impossible to root without an unlocked bootloader) I haven't even read up on what is so special about L that everyone is creaming their pants over it. Please someone enlighten me to the goodness of L other than "it's Google's lastest software".
EDIT: An acceptable answer would be to get off of the botched up KK Moto gave us... twice... Thus why I am sporting DU now - never going back.
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So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad?
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For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.
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For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.
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Lol I will totally agree with you on the battery life thing! I thought my phone was on its way out with how fast the stock KK versions were draining my battery. Constantly had to keep the phone on a charger when I was in one place. I will say that the battery life on DU was one of the things that really caught my attention from the start. Phone makes it through the day, can make it through the night if I forget to charge it overnight, and no more does the phone heat up to 125-140F. Highest I've seen, even with charging, screen on, streaming movies or TV over LTE, has been 98F. Night and day compared to the stock KK ROMs Moto vomited at us. I'd be surprised if other custom KK ROMs for our phones didn't have much improved battery life over that failed attempt at a PR stunt giving us stock KK.
I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.
+1 for dirty unicorn dev
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I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.
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hey guys i wanted to request a lolipop rom runs on dalvik
why don't we have a port of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762336
From that page:
Port Features: On 4.4.4 ports only!! 5.0.1 ports are pure stock with no tweaks, other than those that you do yourself
Lollipop doesn't use Dalvik--it's ART only.
In the post it says "On 4.4.4 ports only!! 5.0.1 ports are pure stock with no tweaks, other than those that you do yourself".... They haven't magically made a lollipop ROM that uses Dalvik rather than ART
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Lollipop is ART
You want dalvik, then you will need to go back to KitKat
Is your Xposed Framework really that important? I think not.
Why would you want a new rom running on an old runtime
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Lollipop is ART
You want dalvik, then you will need to go back to KitKat
Is your Xposed Framework really that important? I think not.
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For some people it is. I for one would much rather have 4.4.4 with Xposed than Lollipop. I think Lollipop sucks, tbqh. It's buggy as hell, and visually it looks like it was designed to appeal to soccer moms and teenage girls. KitKat's performance is great on all three of my devices (2014 Moto X, N5, 2013 N7), and with Xposed it's perfect. It'll be a long time before I update to Lollipop, and it'll likely only be when I buy a new phone that ships with it.
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For some people it is. I for one would much rather have 4.4.4 with Xposed than Lollipop. I think Lollipop sucks, tbqh. It's buggy as hell, and visually it looks like it was designed to appeal to soccer moms and teenage girls. KitKat's performance is great on all three of my devices (2014 Moto X, N5, 2013 N7), and with Xposed it's perfect. It'll be a long time before I update to Lollipop, and it'll likely only be when I buy a new phone that ships with it.
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I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
pr0ndigy said:
I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
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I have a lollipop ROM as a secondary on my N5 so I've used it quite a bit. I haven't noticed any huge performance jump that is compelling me to switch. Everything is already fast as hell on KitKat, so some apps opening 10 milliseconds faster really isn't anything to write home about.
pr0ndigy said:
I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
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I have a lollipop ROM as a secondary on my N5 so I've used it quite a bit. I haven't noticed any huge performance jump that is compelling me to switch. Everything is already fast as hell on KitKat, so some apps opening 10 milliseconds faster really isn't anything to write home about.
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even i can feel some performance improvement on lollipop ( yah it has some minor bugs but which new rom don't ? and they will be fixed.. i'm sure when n5 shipped with KK it also has some minor bugs otherwise they don't need to go 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 )
now it's upon personal like that you want KK or Lollipop.
anyway this discussion in this thread is completely off-topic...answer of OP was given in 2nd post itself so it's not needed to go delvik-ART-Xposed controversy
No improvement on preformance it lags "lrx22c"
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Post your experience with Lollipop on the Note 3; things you like, things that are different, problems you have had, solutions you have found., so that others can benefit.
I've tried two ROMS based on the leak, echoes and flex. I really like many of the features, but I have reverted back to KitKat for now.
It seems many of the TV-watching applications, such as Disney XD, Cartoon Network, etc. do not support Lollipop yet. For me, they crash on video playback. I ran into at least one game, Crossy Road, that crashes too.
I also had a strange issue with WIFI. I could connect to my 2.4 Ghz band just fine, but could not even see the 5Ghz access point. After I reverted to KitKat it was fine.
When ROMS based on the official release for my region come out, I will try again
@burtcom is it possible to revert back from lollipop?
Can you root it? What about xposed framework?
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@burtcom is it possible to revert back from lollipop?
Can you root it? What about xposed framework?
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Yes -- I ran into a few problems but I managed it.
Essentially I downloaded a KitKat rom from Sammobile, then flashed with Odin. I ran into an issue with the flash, and had to reflash with a PIT file.
That gave me a stock KitKat, which I then had to root by flashing CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx
Finally I flashed philz_touch_6.13.0 for recovery
Took all morning yesterday. I found a few threads on XDA which helped a lot, I'll see if I can dig them up.
I flashed the leak and other than the odd bit of stutter it's been as solid, if not more than kitkat.
One of my favourite new features is the trusted devices. I keep my phone pin locked but I can now set it so I can just swipe to unlock if my smart watch or Bluetooth hands free is connected. I walk out of range and it pin locks again.
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@burtcomWhat about xposed framework?
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xposed will not work with Lollipop, unfortunately.
I liked it so far but until Sammy release the source code then we are limited with mods. The leak is solid with some expected bugs but with more releases it will surpass kit Kat very quickly. ..
I went back kit Kat though just cause no official room is our yet and I like xposed framework mods. ...
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I am very happy and have been since the first leak. Encountered no issues whatsoever, experiencing much better battery life, and other than a fee complaints (white menus etc) it's a solid improvement that makes this feel like a new and improved phone.
I do miss Xposed, but I mainly used it for battery tweaks and notification bar shading, which Lollipop resolves for me anyway.
I've been using Echoe ROM for the past month and I'm very pleased with it.
For me battery life is better than it was with Kitkat, Touchwiz works properly and I've not gone back to Nova.
There are a few things you need to get used to like interruptions, but all in all its an improvement over Kitkat.
As soon as some of the apps catch up with Lollipop it will be perfect.
hi thinking to try lollipop, so what is the most stable rom and less bugs?
I installed the leak on 1st release and found it awesome much better than KK.
However once I got my LG G Watch R for Xmas it was a total disaster
My watch would not stay paired for love nor money rendering it almost useless as a smart watch
I would go back to lollipop in a heartbeat if it worked with my watch ok.
Long story short.
Pros:
+ the thing is DAMN fast.
+ me gusta material design.
+ yes, better battery life.
+ the insane multitasking added from the Note 4. It's like that the Alt+Tab has an Alt+Tab.
Cons:
- WHAT THE **** IS WITH ALL THAT WHITE ON AN AMOLED SCREEN
- Did I mention the white all over the place? And the cyan? That color scheme can make me poke my eyes out just for s**ts and giggles. Don't mistake me, I like the design, but the color scheme is hideous.
- While overall navigation, opening apps and the such, IS fast, Recent Apps can have a bit of an odd delay.
- No Xposed yet. :/ Well, rovo89 warned us we might have to wait.
Also, I must commend Samsung with the Troll OEM of the year award for updating the N900 and the I9500 to Lollipop before any of the Note 4 variants.
P.S. I also hope to all gods that Samsung f***ing implemented Ultra Power Saving Mode that doesn't need a mod to be made available. Such a mode should be made available for any device with an OLED screen.
to all who flashed official 5.0 (XXUEBOA6) by odin, can you check your bootloader version? thank you so much.
Installed the BLN8 which ran fantastic, but what the hole is wrong with the battery usage??? It drane 20% an hour, just laying in my pocket!
Installed CM12 which is awesome, but waiting for a stable Sammy firmware so I can get my S-view functionality back.
Memory Leak and Lags
Can anyone of u who have installed Lollipop confirm that you never experience lags or memory leak after few days usage (continuously without restart) ?
i cant flash philz touch recovery.
flashed rom
flashed cwm
then flashed philz touch
everything is normal for this step.
but when i reboot phone im trying to boot in recovery it boot in stock recovery.
i tried flash supersu stuck on samsung logo.
anyone solve this problems?
Edit : problems are solved
Thanks for making this separate thread:
I am very new to Android devices, Note 3 is my 2nd device.. earlier device Lava IRIS died within a week (it was a very old handset)
Used BB a lot and tried apple as well.
My experience with lollipop as a layman.
Pros:
1. Application loading is bit faster comparatively.. consumes little less battery especially with large apps.
2. Using internet related applications, (playing online games consumes less battery with improved performance)
3. Device gets charged more quickly..
From 0% to 100% in less then a hour. (using official cables)
Cons:
1. The white menus everywhere (too disturbing for eyes, if there is no way to change this. I will get to Kitkat again). I really hate this new interface.
2. Weird brightness issue, its too dim sometimes and gets fixed automatically.. (disabling auto brightness and making it run on 10) wont give that brightness when you are standing on road under sun.. cannot view mobile properly like reading messages etc under sun.
3. Massive battery drain.. not sure when/where its happening..
a. Idle mode consumes lot of battery.
b. Use same old Background applications I suppose, which ran normal on Kitkat mite be consuming more battery now..
4. It takes almost double time to hold home key to kill all recent apps..
5. Device gets charged way too slow (when using unofficial cables from chines mobile phones etc.)
Will share more as comes to mind..
Power button menu
I flashed the Russian ROM without factory reset. Overall it's working fine so far.
WTF with this new power button menu ?!! .. I won't go into the hassle of the missing Silent mode for favor of Priority ... but do I have to unlock the device each time to change the sound mode ?!! ... Who's this idiot in Samsung who came up with this ?!!!
Biso007 said:
I flashed the Russian ROM without factory reset. Overall it's working fine so far.
WTF with this new power button menu ?!! .. I won't go into the hassle of the missing Silent mode for favor of Priority ... but do I have to unlock the device each time to change the sound mode ?!! ... Who's this idiot in Samsung who came up with this ?!!!
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That's really sad. I liked to hold power button and get to mute or vibration mode.
Gone now or ca;not find the best thing
I like Lollipop.
Yes, there are a few Xposed modules, that I do miss sometimes, but I still prefer Lollipop.
The design is nice, white color on that AMOLED screen isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The color in notification area and settings isn't the nicest, but I can live with it. Isn't too much of a problem for me to go and edit it.
Battery life is far superior than on KitKat (honestly, I tried - downgraded to KitKat, ran in same configuration for 1 day, battery life was a lot worse)
Performance-wise I can see some improvement as well (yay for Android Runtime).
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5th day since I had last restart, no issues with that.
Hi there, If I flash it with Odin , will I lose all installed software and configurations?
Also I have Knox Status: 1 .... Does it matter for this kind of flashing?
I don't have that much time to upgrade and then having to install every single app and setup wifi etc..
Thanks!
If not I will just flash it straight away.
I'm usually first in line to update firmware, but when Lollipop first launched I decided to wait until a stable custom ROM was released, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did because from what I've seen and heard, Lollipop has been a big bust.
Now I am getting a little antsy to update, but reading about the 5.1.1 gives me no confidence. Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues? Can anyone attest to this? Should I just stay with KK? Are the custom ROM's any better or do they suffer from the same issues as stock ROM? I'm really disappointed with Google on this. They came out touting this and that about Lollipop, and it seems they've fallen flat on all those promises.
Stay with KitKat. 5.1.1 fixed/improved the memleak, that's it. It's still not as fast as 4.4.4. There are also issues with flashlight, camera, bounce scrolling, etc.
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Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues?
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It's impossible to generalise this statement because our usage and setup is all different.
You also have to remember that the internet is for complaining, and you won't hear about or read equivalent posts with little or no issues...
My view: take a nandroid backup of your current setup. Full wipe and flash one of the latest ROMs and test for yourself.
If you discover any of these issues, then restore. If you like what you discover: win!
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
Anderson2 said:
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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Google ain't listening yo
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Google ain't listening yo
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You got that right. ?
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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You got that right.
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
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Nah, that's a myth. Always has been.
Anyways, thanks for the input everyone. I think I will try dual-booting Lollipop, or whatever we call it on Android
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Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
Lollipop has more eye-candy to offer while performing a lot faster. The whole OS looks more refined by now and ART is a huge step in comparison to Dalvik.
Ofc some Apps might not work on Lollipop yet but I think you would miss out a lot since Android 5.1.1 ( Stock ROM ) is the fastest update I´ve ever tried.
Just downgraded 2 of my N5's to KK.
My wife hated it and I like Xposed too much.
Now that Xposed is working in 5.1.1 I will probably upgrade and give it a try again.
I keep a 3rd N5 on Kitkat and use multiRom to experiment.
5.1.1 is fast and looks good but IMHO its not as stable as KK, at least not yet anyway, i went back to KK on sunday and it was like getting my phone back, feels more solid and battery life is much better, you very well may regret upgrading.
Lolipop for me became an excercise in searching for wakelocks and trying to diagnose leaks and what was draining the phone, with Kitkat theres no hassle, it just works by itself, the way in should.
edit: i also found the signal coverage patchy on Lolipop, phone would take ages searching for a signal if it lost it,
other complaints i had were mystery battery drains and maps stalling when driving, basic stuff really.
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There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
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I think this is the best answer and prospect of the whole Kitkat vs Lollipop talk. I never had any problem when i was running the latest Lollipop and custom roms. Saying that Lollipop isn't stable is just saying "you are ****" to the google developers. I mean they are the best engineering and programmers in the World.
I am really glad that i bought Nexus 5 from Samsung flagship phones because i could really dig up the community of android and indie developers providing something for the community. Hell, i even bought Galaxy Nexus after i realized Nexus line phones aren't that bad.
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
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It feels snappier, I think the upgrade uses less resources
Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo
Ninja_Gundam said:
Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo
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But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.
TheSproker said:
But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.
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I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo
Ninja_Gundam said:
I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo
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Well, then you will have to kindly ask a developer to do this, if he or she is even willing to sacrifice their free time to this. So, unless a dev doesn't agree to build such rom, it is not going to happen, which will most likely be the case.
I too would like this, for two reasons in particular. I find the "old" jellybean GUI much more comfortable and user friendly to use, and with more possibilities for tweaking and modifications (currently to this date). The second reason, after installing Marshmallow on my old S4 it became much slower and "heavy" in every interactive way. Had to stay on kitkat. I would image the same way around with the S7, in that it would be much faster and more editable with an older Android version.
See , im not that insane ^__^; .. Kitkat with Amoled expecially was good all in dark black way... with LP and MM it's just a mess of light everywhere; ok dark themes are avaible and we can use xposed to change a lot.. but its not the same thing. Plus some apps starting to refuse to work if root\xposed found like snapchat :| Im fighting with Doze\Led blinking ecc for example.. and notification... better than LP but still a mess compared to KK. And i love to have LBE still not working on MM SD card still not avaible on all apps, u have to works a lot to flash so many zip from recovery ecc....Plus right, KK on this hardware will rocks even downclocking heavly and battery will last so longer.
Chooo
This will not happen.
KitKat does not have all the APIs to take full advantage and optimizations for 64bit HW. Oh and also the bootloader and boot images changed a lot since 4.4. It is better to give up your hopes.
I stumbled accross your thread here doing some searching.
I am interested in buying the S7 Edge.
However, I really hate Lollipop and MM. I hate touchwiz, knox bootloader, even selinux.
If I could run kitkat 4.4.2 on the S7 edge, I would buy one.
Sticking with the oppo find 7 running modified color os kitkat 4.4.2 and Xposed framework.. May even buy another one once I wear this one out.