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[Q] android 5.0 lollipop on RAZR devices??

Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.

We're not going to get official support for 5.0 if that's what you mean. As for custom ROMs, I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Once Android 5.0 L is officially released, we intend to bring this latest upgrade to many of our other Motorola devices, as well. This includes Moto X (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen), Moto G with 4G LTE, Moto E, Droid Ultra, Droid Maxx and Droid Mini. We're still working out the details on timing and the upgrade depends on our partners' support so stay tuned to our software upgrades page for the latest and greatest.
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http://www.motorola-blog.blogspot.hu/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html

...and it begins...Took less than a day for someone to ask. It's not even released yet. Coming to the Razrs? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Unofficial, maybe? These things are at EOL and they received a barely functioning official KK update.
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Moto kind of hinted at the possibility of having other devices on Lollipop, but I'm not holding my breath this time.

derpyherp said:
Does anyone think that android 5.0 will come to our phones? or are Google Motorola and Verizon going to be an ass and say no. I'm willing to help any development.
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We're not even going to get KK 4.4.4 officially. The only way we have that is via custom ROMs like CM11.
Those of us in the soak test were told that this latest OTA (.15 release) was the FINAL release for this phone. No more updates. That came straight from a Motorola person in the private soak test forums.
So, don't hold your breath for an "official" Lollipop release. As others have stated, you might see it via Cyanogen or some other custom ROMs, but that will only be for those who have unlocked bootloaders. Those who have already upgraded to the latest OTA without unlocking are screwed forever.
Besides, CM11 for this phone has just recently become completely stable. L isn't even out yet.

here's is how its going to go down.
L comes out nov 3.
cyanoagen inc /PA will merge the code to their repos; take about a month before the first nightly comes out. cm11 is EOL as they move to Lollipop.
gummy slim and others will take the cm base and fork to get their ROMs running too.
then dhacker epinter etc. our great maintainers will port to our devices; first nightly will be for the very brave.
about 2-3 months of bug fixes until it becomes usable.
give or take by feb we have a daily driver of android L
question is with the f* ups of jjbl and kkbl which kernel will be supported to L, i'm sure cm will use a custom kernel just like it did with cm11 before the moto kk ota.

paranoid android to make l for msm8960 unified
just saw a reply from cj360 he will be working on l for msm8960 devices jbbl and kkbl. he said dont hold your breath ait will take a while

Gr8 stuff so far!
I'm enjoying my recently renewed phone anyways!
Btw, this L inspired Nova Pro customizable theme rocks and ART runtime is superb!
Sent from my Razr HD, Unlocked KKBL, latest CyanogenMod CM11 KK 4.4.4 ROM, ART runtime.

Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon

the build
cartpig said:
Yeah, it's actually available right now.
Check dhacker29's twitter, he has links up.
Flashing soon
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I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!

derpyherp said:
I flashed the build from the 14th i have no issues besides the power menu and lack of options, it doesnt have root DO NOT get the one from the play store get supersu 2.1.6 flash recovery. if you get anyother it will soft brick or cause fc issues. The wifi activity arrows are out of line. I will provide the zip. Its smooth no battery life issues its absoultley flawless..
GOOD JOB dhacker29 WE ALL OWE YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!
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No, it has issues. Blue-tooth is wonky and Netflix and Google Play Movies won't work (you can't watch anything).
DHacker told me via Twitter that it's due to the DRM libraries. He hasn't figured out the right combination yet to get it working,
But, other than that, it works well.
11/16 has the battery percentage in the notification icon.
11/17 apparently has radio issues. Some people have reported that it works for 5 minutes and then the radio dies. A reboot fixes it for about 5 minutes, and then it dies again. Might want to stay away. I'm going to test it, and if I see the same issues, I'll go back to 11/16.

On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.

Not_A_Dev said:
On the 11/16 build, here's what happens on my xt926M:
Phone > Recents > View full call history (bottom of screen) > Dialer fc's.
Haven't upgraded to the 11/17 build yet, as I don't want to run into any radio issues that I'm reading about here.
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There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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palmbeach05 said:
There's a thread in the dev section that's already dedicated to reporting performance, bugs, etc on the new LP builds....
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Thanks. Just posted my impressions of running the 11/16 build on that thread.

So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad? Xposed doesn't work on it, and if you're running a custom ROM you're already more than likely modified beyond anything that "Android L" is going to give you...
Other than "material design" and "ART" (along with being near impossible to root without an unlocked bootloader) I haven't even read up on what is so special about L that everyone is creaming their pants over it. Please someone enlighten me to the goodness of L other than "it's Google's lastest software".
EDIT: An acceptable answer would be to get off of the botched up KK Moto gave us... twice... Thus why I am sporting DU now - never going back.

LifeAsADroid said:
So here's a question (and I'm being serious when I ask, not trying to be snotty):
What about L is everyone so looking forward to that you all need it so bad?
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For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.

Not_A_Dev said:
For me - in short - battery life. If Android 5.0 hadn't come along soon, I would have downgraded to JB any day now, because that was the perfect OS for my XT926M. For me, KK just does not run right on this device. Why LP? The promise of "Project Volta" and whatnot. Of course, running a pretty much pre-alpha early version of CM 12, battery life is actually worse than it was on KK. I'll chalk it up to the fact that LP still needs development for this device, in hopes of having good battery life, hopefully by next February. Material Design is also pretty to look at.
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Lol I will totally agree with you on the battery life thing! I thought my phone was on its way out with how fast the stock KK versions were draining my battery. Constantly had to keep the phone on a charger when I was in one place. I will say that the battery life on DU was one of the things that really caught my attention from the start. Phone makes it through the day, can make it through the night if I forget to charge it overnight, and no more does the phone heat up to 125-140F. Highest I've seen, even with charging, screen on, streaming movies or TV over LTE, has been 98F. Night and day compared to the stock KK ROMs Moto vomited at us. I'd be surprised if other custom KK ROMs for our phones didn't have much improved battery life over that failed attempt at a PR stunt giving us stock KK.

I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.

+1 for dirty unicorn dev
Not_A_Dev said:
I have to really give major props to the developers of the DU ROM which I ran for a solid 2 weeks, just prior to upgrading to 5.0 They have actually made KK a bearable OS on this device with which I could get 2 full work days out of the XT926M - battery-wise - with moderate use. Still, the MAXX battery is a beast, and less than 2 days should not be acceptable. Under JB that was the case. If LP doesn't deliver soon, I am definitely going back to JB. And right around next March, my contract for this device is up anyway.
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[Q] Stable Lollipop ROM for N5 without memory leak?

I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?

Either downgrade to KitKat (my recommendation) or wait for 5.1.

YassinTP said:
I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?
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There is no memory leak. Most reliable ROM is stock one. I would recommend 5.0.1, root, remove bloatware (yes, even Google can do that) and integrate all updates into system. Off course as @_MetalHead_ said, with 4.4.4 and Xposed you will also get a SuperRom.

_MetalHead_ said:
Either downgrade to KitKat (my recommendation) or wait for 5.1.
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So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
zagorteney said:
There is no memory leak. Most reliable ROM is stock one.
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But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm

YassinTP said:
So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm
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Custom ROM will only bring you more issues.
"The thread reveals that several Nexus devices ranging from the Nexus 7 (2013 model), the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5 were affected by the bug." (from your article) - I own all of them and never ever experienced such a bugs on non of them.
There is a lot off diferent users with their own habits and (no)knowledge. Google must answer some way.

YassinTP said:
I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?
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Frank by Sykopompos .........For the N5

YassinTP said:
So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm
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Honestly, I've had nothing but problems with Lollipop. I've tried stock, and a couple custom ROMs and there was no difference. I don't think it performs that much better than KK and I'm also not a fan of how it looks so I decided to keep all my devices on KK. Hopefully 5.1 will take care of all of the issues, I might upgrade then.

Or stay on LP and use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247

Primokorn said:
Or stay on LP and use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
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Doesn't have much effect, if any at all, people said they still have "memory leak issues".
If anything, there are probably multiple "memory leaks", and non-developers on XDA will spam links to "fixes" in every single thread/forum section, every time they're posted, and are under a placebo effect.
Then there are also the people who spam about Android 5.1 as if it's a huge improvement over 5.0–5.0.2.

The best band aid for this I've found is to use a kernel with zram compression like Faux kernel and the FauxClock app. I never though I'd have to resort to using compressed ram on my Nexus 5 but it was a godsend on reducing launcher redraws on an HTC Evo LTE running Sense with only 1GB of ram. The issue still pops up but much less frequently for me. BTW I have not run any comparison testing and this statement is pure anecdotal. I just have repeatedly observed on the same rom with the same exact setup for 2-3 months that using 3 kernels without zram required a reboot every day. On the same exact setup with zram I could go 3-4 days. A repeatable test for me was to browse on Chrome for a bit then go to the home screen. Without zram the launcher would redraw almost every time which was the same issue I had on Sense. With zram the launcher never redrew. Poo on Google for letting this issue go on this long without a fix.

I finally went back to lot kat for the same reason a month a go and couldn't be happier. The aggressive memory leak caused me to reboot several times a day. I liked cataclysm, but it's a modified stock nexus rom. So it contains all the same bugs the stock nexus rom does like the memory leak. It only adds new features.

Android lollipop memory leak not fixed in cm 12.1 with android 5.1.1 sources!!
I am using cm 12.1 latest nightlies which is based on android 5.1.1 sources and still I am faxing the lollipop memory leak issue and applications are restarting and the free Ram reduces up to 400 mb with no reason and the Apps will start restarting. I don't know when this memory leak will be fixed!

Nexus 5 looking for a ROM...

Hi, I'm looking for a stable ROM, there are tons of ROMs out there based on kitkat 4.4.x and the new Lolipop. I've had a look at some ROM's such as Euphoria and Chroma, I haven't actually flashed them yet as I'm currently running CM11 M11. But unfortunately I have some issues with Greenify and the picture/video quality is bad compared to e.g. stock Kitkat 4.4.4 with HDR+.
If there's a camera module with HDR and better picture quality I don't mind flashing this, as CM11 has more features than I use. But if there's no module than my question is what ROM would you guys recommend?
It has to have/be;
-Stable
-Good GSM/GPS Signal
-Good Battery Life, CM11 running on ART during night in idle only takes arond 2% battery so thats around 8-10h. The battery lasts me around 2-3 days on average, last time I managed to get just over 4 days.
-Good Camera, preferably with HDR+
-Simple, I'm looking for a ROM which is simple and quick/lightweight.
I'm not a fan of lolipop thats why I'm still running CM11 and not CM12, but I'll just use Nova Launcher and get some themes for it to make it look more appearing.

You should be able to flash the google camera addon from pa gapps, if you find it.

As you might know we cannot be judges of 'best' ROMs on XDA (or make competitive comparisons of ROMs to a certain extent e.t.c.), so personally I'm afraid I cannot help you.
If you are really in demand of an answer for this, then try one of the not heavily modified AOSP ROMs, which should do the job on your desired criteria with regards to the choices.
My own personal picks would be Terminus & RastaPop because I have gotten used to the clean work done by the devs, and source code is awesome - however that is my choice and the 'best' ROM for you is only for you to decide for yourself.
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californicated said:
You should be able to flash the google camera addon from pa gapps, if you find it.
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I've flashed the gapps provided by CM for the CM11 ROM and I have installed the Google Camera from the PA. But the HDR option is missing from the menu and the picture quality compared to stock 4.4.4 or 5.0.1 is worse and not as sharp. I've tried to search for a solution to this and some people seem to flash the camera module from Motorolla, but even though some people managed to get the HDR, the camera just crashes once you try to select it or that oprion is just simply missing.
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As you might know we cannot be judges of 'best' ROMs on XDA (or make competitive comparisons of ROMs to a certain extent e.t.c.), so personally I'm afraid I cannot help you.
If you are really in demand of an answer for this, then try one of the not heavily modified AOSP ROMs, which should do the job on your desired criteria with regards to the choices.
My own personal picks would be Terminus & RastaPop because I have gotten used to the clean work done by the devs, and source code is awesome - however that is my choice and the 'best' ROM for you is only for you to decide for yourself.
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Tbh IMHO there's no best ROM, well that's my experiance over the years with different phones. You can have a ROM which suits most of your needs, but it might not do the same for another person that's why we have a great choice of great ROM's to pick from. It's the same with cars, you can't just say that one car is the best. An example would be a performance car which does 80-90mpg with a better sunspension than a e.g. Bentley. That's impossible, you can't have everything so you go for the car whicch ticks most of the boxes on your criteria list. That's why I listed what things I'm looking for from the ROM, I'm not asking for the best ROM, not sure where you got the idea from?
P.s. Thanks for the request, I wasn't sure were to post this. It was either Q&A or General.
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Is the newer lolipop stabler than 4.4.4? I'm not a fan of lolipop as it looks like a bad copy of iOS IMHO and the amount of issues I had with the early versions 5.0-5.0.2 put me off a bit. But thankfully android is a very customizable system and so I can make lolipop look decent, so not that much of a problem.

Stock..?
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Donnie Sins said:
Stock..?
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I was thinking of running 4.4.4 Kitkat stock with Xposed, but I've read that people were having prolems running Xposed with ART...

IIC3 said:
Is the newer lolipop stabler than 4.4.4? I'm not a fan of lolipop as it looks like a bad copy of iOS IMHO and the amount of issues I had with the early versions 5.0-5.0.2 put me off a bit. But thankfully android is a very customizable system and so I can make lolipop look decent, so not that much of a problem.
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5.0 brought me back to 4.4.4, too. But 5.1 improved a lot

californicated said:
5.0 brought me back to 4.4.4, too. But 5.1 improved a lot
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Are you running stock 5.1? ART or Dalvik? Xposed?

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Are you running stock 5.1? ART or Dalvik? Xposed?
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Dalvik is nonexistent in Lollipop.
Due to changes in ART Xposed is RIP in 5.1, but 3.0 alpha 1 & 2 work on 5.0.X

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Dalvik is nonexistent in Lollipop.
Due to changes in ART Xposed is RIP in 5.1, but 3.0 alpha 1 & 2 work on 5.0.X
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I didn't know that, thanks for the info. Is there an alternative to Xposed on Lolipop 5.1 R3?

Tbh, I still haven't flashed anything. I'm thinking of just flashing stock 5.1 R3, but I'm still seeing numbers of threads about the problems with lolipop.
So ultimately what ROM would you guys recommend keeping in mind; stability, good battery life, good signal/gps and decent camera with HDR? I'm not asking for the best one, just for a ROM that ticks those boxes and is not overdone.
I can see quite a few issues with the elementalx that have been appearing for the past couple days, the camera on CM11 sucks especially since there's no HDR option.

Who here is still running KK? aka Thinking of finally upgrading to LP

I'm usually first in line to update firmware, but when Lollipop first launched I decided to wait until a stable custom ROM was released, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did because from what I've seen and heard, Lollipop has been a big bust.
Now I am getting a little antsy to update, but reading about the 5.1.1 gives me no confidence. Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues? Can anyone attest to this? Should I just stay with KK? Are the custom ROM's any better or do they suffer from the same issues as stock ROM? I'm really disappointed with Google on this. They came out touting this and that about Lollipop, and it seems they've fallen flat on all those promises.

Stay with KitKat. 5.1.1 fixed/improved the memleak, that's it. It's still not as fast as 4.4.4. There are also issues with flashlight, camera, bounce scrolling, etc.

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Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues?
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It's impossible to generalise this statement because our usage and setup is all different.
You also have to remember that the internet is for complaining, and you won't hear about or read equivalent posts with little or no issues...
My view: take a nandroid backup of your current setup. Full wipe and flash one of the latest ROMs and test for yourself.
If you discover any of these issues, then restore. If you like what you discover: win!

There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.

Anderson2 said:
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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Google ain't listening yo

beekay201 said:
Google ain't listening yo
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You got that right. ?
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.

Lollipop is working perfectly for me

Anderson2 said:
You got that right.
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
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Nah, that's a myth. Always has been.
Anyways, thanks for the input everyone. I think I will try dual-booting Lollipop, or whatever we call it on Android

dicecuber said:
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.

Lollipop has more eye-candy to offer while performing a lot faster. The whole OS looks more refined by now and ART is a huge step in comparison to Dalvik.
Ofc some Apps might not work on Lollipop yet but I think you would miss out a lot since Android 5.1.1 ( Stock ROM ) is the fastest update I´ve ever tried.

Just downgraded 2 of my N5's to KK.
My wife hated it and I like Xposed too much.
Now that Xposed is working in 5.1.1 I will probably upgrade and give it a try again.
I keep a 3rd N5 on Kitkat and use multiRom to experiment.

5.1.1 is fast and looks good but IMHO its not as stable as KK, at least not yet anyway, i went back to KK on sunday and it was like getting my phone back, feels more solid and battery life is much better, you very well may regret upgrading.
Lolipop for me became an excercise in searching for wakelocks and trying to diagnose leaks and what was draining the phone, with Kitkat theres no hassle, it just works by itself, the way in should.
edit: i also found the signal coverage patchy on Lolipop, phone would take ages searching for a signal if it lost it,
other complaints i had were mystery battery drains and maps stalling when driving, basic stuff really.

Gorgtech said:
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
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I think this is the best answer and prospect of the whole Kitkat vs Lollipop talk. I never had any problem when i was running the latest Lollipop and custom roms. Saying that Lollipop isn't stable is just saying "you are ****" to the google developers. I mean they are the best engineering and programmers in the World.
I am really glad that i bought Nexus 5 from Samsung flagship phones because i could really dig up the community of android and indie developers providing something for the community. Hell, i even bought Galaxy Nexus after i realized Nexus line phones aren't that bad.

Anderson2 said:
What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
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It feels snappier, I think the upgrade uses less resources

[REQ] Kitkat based rom ?

Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo

Ninja_Gundam said:
Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo
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But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.

TheSproker said:
But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.
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I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo

Ninja_Gundam said:
I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo
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Well, then you will have to kindly ask a developer to do this, if he or she is even willing to sacrifice their free time to this. So, unless a dev doesn't agree to build such rom, it is not going to happen, which will most likely be the case.

I too would like this, for two reasons in particular. I find the "old" jellybean GUI much more comfortable and user friendly to use, and with more possibilities for tweaking and modifications (currently to this date). The second reason, after installing Marshmallow on my old S4 it became much slower and "heavy" in every interactive way. Had to stay on kitkat. I would image the same way around with the S7, in that it would be much faster and more editable with an older Android version.

See , im not that insane ^__^; .. Kitkat with Amoled expecially was good all in dark black way... with LP and MM it's just a mess of light everywhere; ok dark themes are avaible and we can use xposed to change a lot.. but its not the same thing. Plus some apps starting to refuse to work if root\xposed found like snapchat :| Im fighting with Doze\Led blinking ecc for example.. and notification... better than LP but still a mess compared to KK. And i love to have LBE still not working on MM SD card still not avaible on all apps, u have to works a lot to flash so many zip from recovery ecc....Plus right, KK on this hardware will rocks even downclocking heavly and battery will last so longer.
Chooo

This will not happen.
KitKat does not have all the APIs to take full advantage and optimizations for 64bit HW. Oh and also the bootloader and boot images changed a lot since 4.4. It is better to give up your hopes.

I stumbled accross your thread here doing some searching.
I am interested in buying the S7 Edge.
However, I really hate Lollipop and MM. I hate touchwiz, knox bootloader, even selinux.
If I could run kitkat 4.4.2 on the S7 edge, I would buy one.
Sticking with the oppo find 7 running modified color os kitkat 4.4.2 and Xposed framework.. May even buy another one once I wear this one out.