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[Q] Backward compatibility to 4.3.2

I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx

brijeshsshah said:
I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx
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Lolol is this a real post?

brijeshsshah said:
I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx
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Hahaaa [emoji23] you are funny. Plz do try lollipop 5.0.1 and you will love it.

Thanks for the reply guys, but....
almaqdad said:
Hahaaa [emoji23] you are funny. Plz do try lollipop 5.0.1 and you will love it.
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Guys, thanks for the response. Unfortunately I am serious. Will wait for 5.0.1 to come out & give it a try, but really wanted to know if its possible to put 4.3.2 on the note edge if I dont like 5.0.1.
Thanks

I heard Gingerbread is super smooth

It is possible, however, you would have to find someone to create a Jelly Bean ROM for you...
I'm curious though as to why you'd even want that.
Kit Kat and Lollipop both outperform Jelly Bean, and that's without Touch Wiz. With Touch Wiz, that's a whole different ball game.
If you're looking for better performance, wouldn't an AOSP Lollipop ROM be better that a Jelly Bean Touch Wiz ROM?
brijeshsshah said:
Guys, thanks for the response. Unfortunately I am serious. Will wait for 5.0.1 to come out & give it a try, but really wanted to know if its possible to put 4.3.2 on the note edge if I dont like 5.0.1.
Thanks
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Thanks Beach_Head
Beach_Head said:
It is possible, however, you would have to find someone to create a Jelly Bean ROM for you...
I'm curious though as to why you'd even want that.
Kit Kat and Lollipop both outperform Jelly Bean, and that's without Touch Wiz. With Touch Wiz, that's a whole different ball game.
If you're looking for better performance, wouldn't an AOSP Lollipop ROM be better that a Jelly Bean Touch Wiz ROM?
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Hi Beach_Head thanks for your response. I know a lot of people had issues with 4.3.2, but not me. I loved it. I loved it in my rooted S3 until Jan of this year when i upgraded to the EDGE. Feel like the ui changes in 4.4.2 (& just from reading about 5.0.1) were done just for the sake of changing. From changing the funtionality of the menu button to the email program within touchwiz. They all are horrible changes to me, making the functionalities more cumbersome than anything else.
Does my Edge reboot faster than my S3 yes, a whole 50 seconds faster. But cumbersome UI negates that perormance gain. My memeory usuage on the EDGE is also the same as my S3 around 80-90%. Further more i still have not seen a rooted stock rom running touchwiz (unfortunately, i happen to like it :/) so my EDGE, is still not rooted
Further more it has been freezing like crazy whenever i am in a chatting app like whatsapp or kik & am reading messages, when the screen turns off. If i try to bring the screen back on right away, the screen goes blank & the phone freezes. Only optio i have at that point is to take the batt out & restart the phone. The other option, when the screen turns off while reading, i have to wait atkeast 5-10 sec before tying to turn the screen back on. Either way VERY cumbersome
Anyways, after reading ur post looks like i am just gonna have to suck it up & wait for 5.0.1 update and hope its better than 4.4.2. Also hope some one posts a rooted version of the stock rom running touchwiz soon after. No other choice. Finally I am not sure what AOSP is or means.

My Edge isn't rooted either. But my problem is that I don't want to trip Knox.
I'm using a different model than yours (I don't think it should matter), but I have never experienced any of the bad experiences you've had. In fact, I don't recall any instance that my Edge has frozen. That is odd behavior. Especially if it happens frequently. Have you tried re-flashing it with the latest firmware to refresh it? That should fix it. Otherwise, if you still encounter those problems and your warranty allows it, you should have it exchanged as it could be a hardware issue.
Oh, and AOSP (Android Open Source Project) means, a pure Android build. No Touch Wiz or any other add-on feature or bloatware that gets attached by either a manufacturer or a carrier.
brijeshsshah said:
Hi Beach_Head thanks for your response. I know a lot of people had issues with 4.3.2, but not me. I loved it. I loved it in my rooted S3 until Jan of this year when i upgraded to the EDGE. Feel like the ui changes in 4.4.2 (& just from reading about 5.0.1) were done just for the sake of changing. From changing the funtionality of the menu button to the email program within touchwiz. They all are horrible changes to me, making the functionalities more cumbersome than anything else.
Does my Edge reboot faster than my S3 yes, a whole 50 seconds faster. But cumbersome UI negates that perormance gain. My memeory usuage on the EDGE is also the same as my S3 around 80-90%. Further more i still have not seen a rooted stock rom running touchwiz (unfortunately, i happen to like it :/) so my EDGE, is still not rooted
Further more it has been freezing like crazy whenever i am in a chatting app like whatsapp or kik & am reading messages, when the screen turns off. If i try to bring the screen back on right away, the screen goes blank & the phone freezes. Only optio i have at that point is to take the batt out & restart the phone. The other option, when the screen turns off while reading, i have to wait atkeast 5-10 sec before tying to turn the screen back on. Either way VERY cumbersome
Anyways, after reading ur post looks like i am just gonna have to suck it up & wait for 5.0.1 update and hope its better than 4.4.2. Also hope some one posts a rooted version of the stock rom running touchwiz soon after. No other choice. Finally I am not sure what AOSP is or means.
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Thanks again
Beach_Head said:
My Edge isn't rooted either. But my problem is that I don't want to trip Knox.
I'm using a different model than yours (I don't think it should matter), but I have never experienced any of the bad experiences you've had. In fact, I don't recall any instance that my Edge has frozen. That is odd behavior. Especially if it happens frequently. Have you tried re-flashing it with the latest firmware to refresh it? That should fix it. Otherwise, if you still encounter those problems and your warranty allows it, you should have it exchanged as it could be a hardware issue.
Oh, and AOSP (Android Open Source Project) means, a pure Android build. No Touch Wiz or any other add-on feature or bloatware that gets attached by either a manufacturer or a carrier.
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Hi Beach_Head,
Think i will try to factory reset the phone. Hopefully that solves the issue. But will get a hold of tmo as well if the problem continues after that. Do have 4 more questions for you:
1. If I go the AOSP way, can I then install individual touchwiz/smasung programs like the email client or printer service, keyboard, etc?
2. Also I know S3 with 4.3.2 had knox as well, however the root did not trip it. What is the advantage of having knox vs not having it, besides loosing the factory warranty?
3. If i do decide to root... do u know of a rooted stock rom (no custom roms) that is available for 4.4.2 or 5.0.1 for the tmo Edge? &
4. FINALLY (lol) have u found a work around for the ext SD card problem in unrooted 4.4.2?
Thank again for being patient with me

Hope all goes well...
To answer your questions:
1. I believe so.
2. Apart from losing warranty, there's no other reason. However, my company is adopting Knox, so I need it intact.
3. You may check here: T-Mobile Note Edge Android Development
4. I don't believe there is a solution that doesn't involve root.
BTW, are you sure you're on 4.4.2? My Edge is on 4.4.4 and I don't believe was ever on 4.4.2.
brijeshsshah said:
Hi Beach_Head,
Think i will try to factory reset the phone. Hopefully that solves the issue. But will get a hold of tmo as well if the problem continues after that. Do have 4 more questions for you:
1. If I go the AOSP way, can I then install individual touchwiz/smasung programs like the email client or printer service, keyboard, etc?
2. Also I know S3 with 4.3.2 had knox as well, however the root did not trip it. What is the advantage of having knox vs not having it, besides loosing the factory warranty?
3. If i do decide to root... do u know of a rooted stock rom (no custom roms) that is available for 4.4.2 or 5.0.1 for the tmo Edge? &
4. FINALLY (lol) have u found a work around for the ext SD card problem in unrooted 4.4.2?
Thank again for being patient with me
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Thanks again Beach_Head
Beach_Head said:
Hope all goes well...
To answer your questions:
1. I believe so.
2. Apart from losing warranty, there's no other reason. However, my company is adopting Knox, so I need it intact.
3. You may check here: T-Mobile Note Edge Android Development
4. I don't believe there is a solution that doesn't involve root.
BTW, are you sure you're on 4.4.2? My Edge is on 4.4.4 and I don't believe was ever on 4.4.2.
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U r right it is 4.4.4. Lol I will follow what you have recommended. Cant thank you enough for taking the time out to help me out. Really appreciate it

No problem! I'm glad I could help. Let me know how it goes...
Hitting the "Thanks!" button is all that's necessary from you.
brijeshsshah said:
U r right it is 4.4.4. Lol I will follow what you have recommended. Cant thank you enough for taking the time out to help me out. Really appreciate it
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Who here is still running KK? aka Thinking of finally upgrading to LP

I'm usually first in line to update firmware, but when Lollipop first launched I decided to wait until a stable custom ROM was released, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did because from what I've seen and heard, Lollipop has been a big bust.
Now I am getting a little antsy to update, but reading about the 5.1.1 gives me no confidence. Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues? Can anyone attest to this? Should I just stay with KK? Are the custom ROM's any better or do they suffer from the same issues as stock ROM? I'm really disappointed with Google on this. They came out touting this and that about Lollipop, and it seems they've fallen flat on all those promises.

Stay with KitKat. 5.1.1 fixed/improved the memleak, that's it. It's still not as fast as 4.4.4. There are also issues with flashlight, camera, bounce scrolling, etc.

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Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues?
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It's impossible to generalise this statement because our usage and setup is all different.
You also have to remember that the internet is for complaining, and you won't hear about or read equivalent posts with little or no issues...
My view: take a nandroid backup of your current setup. Full wipe and flash one of the latest ROMs and test for yourself.
If you discover any of these issues, then restore. If you like what you discover: win!

There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.

Anderson2 said:
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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Google ain't listening yo

beekay201 said:
Google ain't listening yo
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You got that right. ?
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.

Lollipop is working perfectly for me

Anderson2 said:
You got that right.
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
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Nah, that's a myth. Always has been.
Anyways, thanks for the input everyone. I think I will try dual-booting Lollipop, or whatever we call it on Android

dicecuber said:
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.

Lollipop has more eye-candy to offer while performing a lot faster. The whole OS looks more refined by now and ART is a huge step in comparison to Dalvik.
Ofc some Apps might not work on Lollipop yet but I think you would miss out a lot since Android 5.1.1 ( Stock ROM ) is the fastest update I´ve ever tried.

Just downgraded 2 of my N5's to KK.
My wife hated it and I like Xposed too much.
Now that Xposed is working in 5.1.1 I will probably upgrade and give it a try again.
I keep a 3rd N5 on Kitkat and use multiRom to experiment.

5.1.1 is fast and looks good but IMHO its not as stable as KK, at least not yet anyway, i went back to KK on sunday and it was like getting my phone back, feels more solid and battery life is much better, you very well may regret upgrading.
Lolipop for me became an excercise in searching for wakelocks and trying to diagnose leaks and what was draining the phone, with Kitkat theres no hassle, it just works by itself, the way in should.
edit: i also found the signal coverage patchy on Lolipop, phone would take ages searching for a signal if it lost it,
other complaints i had were mystery battery drains and maps stalling when driving, basic stuff really.

Gorgtech said:
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
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I think this is the best answer and prospect of the whole Kitkat vs Lollipop talk. I never had any problem when i was running the latest Lollipop and custom roms. Saying that Lollipop isn't stable is just saying "you are ****" to the google developers. I mean they are the best engineering and programmers in the World.
I am really glad that i bought Nexus 5 from Samsung flagship phones because i could really dig up the community of android and indie developers providing something for the community. Hell, i even bought Galaxy Nexus after i realized Nexus line phones aren't that bad.

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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
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It feels snappier, I think the upgrade uses less resources

5.1.1 users step in.

I've been running Android 5.1.1 for a few weeks now and although it's fast and snappy,it does have it's share of "odd quirks".
The built in security for one seems to be a bit of a pain in the rear ..... crash and restart.
Any thoughts or observations to share?

Can you give some input regarding the UI on 5.1.1? Is it equivalent to 5.1.1 on the Note 5?

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Can you give some input regarding the UI on 5.1.1? Is it equivalent to 5.1.1 on the Note 5?
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I *thought* I already posted back on this thread...my apologies.
To answer your question,I haven't seen the Note 5 yet so I can't comment on that.
One thing I can say is the built in security protocols of my 5.1.1 are a big pain in the butt.
I can't wait to root this thing and clean house!

I doubt Samsung cared enough to change the UI lol. Samsung wants to sell new phones, they are not interested in you keeping the phone you bought last year. I think I've heard that the 5.1 upgrade is just like the 5.0 update. Its mainly an Android thing not a Touchwiz thing. Touchwiz never gets updates except when a new phone is being released

To be honest,the interface is different than 4.4.4 somewhat .... especially the notification drop down.
They also seem to have a better handle on disabling app's than 4.4.4 had.

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To be honest,the interface is different than 4.4.4 somewhat .... especially the notification drop down.
They also seem to have a better handle on disabling app's than 4.4.4 had.
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Again its just Android redesign not TW. Touchwiz doesnt change for any phone. Samsung has been doing this for years now

Guide to root S5 from Lollipop to Marshmallow

Hi. First post and I have never rooted a phone before.
My S5 is a G900F on EE network.
It has an issue where after switching to wifi it cannot switch to mobile data without a restart hence I restart it about 3x a day. Every day. This appears to be an issue with EE on the S5.
The phone is unlocked and I'm not with the EE network for my calls.
I would like to get rid of any trace of EE but also would very much like the sound of marshmallow.
It sound like the touch wiz functionality Is useful so I would like to keep that.
So what are my options and is there a step by step guide to do this for newbies?
Thanks in advance.
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With the restarting issue try airplane mode on/off instead and see if that fixes it.
I'm also with EE on my S5 and as it is there is no Marshmallow Touchwiz for the S5 (apart from the one that'll be built probably tomorrow by the devs on here). You can use an S6 ported ROM themed like marshmallow however I have found they are fast at first but after long usage they seem to slow down a lot. You can get marshmallow via ROMs like CyanogenMod 13 which are crazy fast however that's based on stock Android and not TouchWiz. Rooting is a great idea as you can do just that (rid of all the EE branded stuff like Lookout, Amazon Appstore etc.) and also it doesn't require installing custom ROMs (however awesome custom ROMs are). Or you could install a debloated ROM (Generally makes your phone faster, declutters it).
Right now i'm running on stock 5.0 rooted until a stable 6.0.1 ROM is built, then I'll flash it to check it out.
Hope this helps
Edit: Also buddy you might want to have posted this in the Q/A section for future reference

Shaolin thanks for the reply.
The aeroplane mode on off works which is a bit less of a pita thanks.
Did you not find the cyanogen mod stable or did it slow down?
Any idea when a stable 6.01 will be released?
Any idea when 6.01 with touch wiz will be available?
Maybe it is better for me to wait for one of these also I'm concerned with 6.01 the sd card is integrated which is brilliant but sounds like it is difficult or impossible to get data off the card if I change the rom?
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CyanogenMod is very stable however the cons for me are the lower camera quality (due to the fact it uses the Stock android api) and also the missing cool touchwiz features like air view and gestures
I'm running a 6.0.1 touchwiz build right now but it is harder to install than standard ROM due to the fact you must use ADB to replace your bootloader/system etc.
The 6.0.1 official update will probably start dripping out at the end of the month or its predicted for April think
In my opinion, just wait for the official 6.0.1 touchwiz build because this build I'm running now is the smoothest I've ever had my S5 (so it will probably be even better in official build)
Let me know if you'd like a link the to thread for 6.0.1 touchwiz for S5. If you do wanna install it early then I must urge you BE CAREFUL! Backup everything

Did anyone just stick with the stock Cyanogen OS?

I realise this is probably a bit of a controversial question to ask on XDA, however has anyone else just stuck with the stock Cyanogen OS on their OnePlus One?
I was thinking today when reading about Lineage OS I have pretty much kept my OnePlus One stock since i got it in July 2014, out the box Cyanogen OS had everything i'd otherwise flash a custom rom for. I did try some early Marshmallow roms around February last year, however due to various bugs I went back to stock and waited for the Marshmallow OTA.
These days i'd certainly take stability over having the latest and greatest version of Android. Of course I don't intend that as any disrespect to the developers on here, more than anything I think I just got tired of tinkering with my phone and have enjoyed just using it.
However I do plan on flashing Lineage OS in the future, which seems quite strange after not flashing a custom rom for almost a year.
It's great to see XDA is still going strong, even more so that the OnePlus currently has the most users of unofficial installs of Lineage OS :good:

My father does have the official builds hahahah we both have the opo but he's okay if it works, so keeping it simple is the best way for him.

As far as Cyanogen OS goes
It's bad and bloated
I tried to stay on it, and did for a bit when security updates were being applied
But had a bunch of reboots and overheating issues. Had to dump it.

Was on stock COS till today since i couldnt find a rom that suited my needs and passed safetynet. Today i flashed lineage OS official, everything is smooth and it passes safety net (i can now use my banking app while running nougat). So yeah today is the day i left COS and marshmallow

I don't even know why I'm still on official CyanOS. The screen time is dreadful. I think I'll give LOS a chance in the near future. It can't be any worse than 3-4 hours of screen time, what I'm getting now with official COS.

Cyanogen may be sold in the future and they can push harmful updates to your device, so I'd say updating is a very good choice.

I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.

I do sometimes think maybe I should have stayed stock but then I think of all the fun I've had
Now I need my phone to work for calls and alarms as a minimum so take less risks now
I'm still on marsh 2.0 from way back last august

i would but cyanogen 13.1 has a problem with the mobile network.........

Luck Patcher
Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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You can try Lucky Patcher. They have a custom patch for YouTube background playback. Works on Nougat. Hope this helps

For anyone who wants the best stable experience, I'd suggest sultanxda's CM13 ROM. May it be for girlfriends, dad's, whoever. That ROM will never fall behind.
Cheers.

Well I am still sticking with rooted cyanogen os. I have color camera, viper4android, Sony Media Apps like Walkman and xposed.
Can anyone enlighten me whether noughat build supports viper4android and a good camera mod like color os or cameranext mod? If so I don't mind installing it immediately..

I'm still on stock ROM, because I'm using NFC payments on the tube. Battery life with screen on is dreadful. I would upgrade in a heartbeat should there be any ROM that's signed by Google. Is there any hope to get that ?

My story sounds a lot like the OP. I got my OPO as soon as the invites started going out (I had signed up long before release) and I just couldn't wait to get it and start rooting and TWRPing and ROMing. I tried just about every ROM that was out there including OOS. But, as is often the case with enthusiast ROMS, there always seemed to be some little something somewhere that didn't quite work right. I also had terrible problems with the radios on almost all ROMs including the stock ROM. That got corrected during the second or third update though.
I have a lot of smartphones, so eventually, I moved onto other phones and other tinkering. Then one day, not too long ago, I wondered what it would be like to restore my OPO back to factory stock - no root; reset the tamper bit - and update to the latest official update - so I did.
I have to say that the OPO has never been as stable and reliable as it is in that condition. Best radio reception since I got the phone, silky smooth Android experience (even on two year old hardware), and rarely any crashes or FCs. Truly a STABLE phone.
But even as good as it is running now, I still worry about not getting any future updates and in particular security patches, so I will be looking to flash a good stable build of Lineage OS after reading up on other users' experiences.
Still have to say though that through all of my phones (Galaxy's, Lumias, iPhones, and everything in between), I'd still put my OPO up there with my trusted iPhone 6S for reliability and the "It Just Works" factor.

Hi! I'm running COS, the latest update i received via OTA. I'll wait for a stable build for Nougat, also, there are some xposed modules I cannot live without so i guess i wait for a little bit.

Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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Which Xposed module let's you do that? please let me know. I know I can search but can't get one that works.

Fatsodonkey said:
I am keeping it. I would love that someone could recommend me a 6.0 rom alternative though, because can't switch to Nougat. MM has xposed and i need youtube background playback.
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There's an unofficial Lineage OS 13 for our bacon, here in XDA. Stable no issues and xposed compatible