5.1.1 users step in. - Note Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been running Android 5.1.1 for a few weeks now and although it's fast and snappy,it does have it's share of "odd quirks".
The built in security for one seems to be a bit of a pain in the rear ..... crash and restart.
Any thoughts or observations to share?

Can you give some input regarding the UI on 5.1.1? Is it equivalent to 5.1.1 on the Note 5?

y2jdmbfan said:
Can you give some input regarding the UI on 5.1.1? Is it equivalent to 5.1.1 on the Note 5?
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I *thought* I already posted back on this thread...my apologies.
To answer your question,I haven't seen the Note 5 yet so I can't comment on that.
One thing I can say is the built in security protocols of my 5.1.1 are a big pain in the butt.
I can't wait to root this thing and clean house!

I doubt Samsung cared enough to change the UI lol. Samsung wants to sell new phones, they are not interested in you keeping the phone you bought last year. I think I've heard that the 5.1 upgrade is just like the 5.0 update. Its mainly an Android thing not a Touchwiz thing. Touchwiz never gets updates except when a new phone is being released

To be honest,the interface is different than 4.4.4 somewhat .... especially the notification drop down.
They also seem to have a better handle on disabling app's than 4.4.4 had.

The Radius Kid said:
To be honest,the interface is different than 4.4.4 somewhat .... especially the notification drop down.
They also seem to have a better handle on disabling app's than 4.4.4 had.
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Again its just Android redesign not TW. Touchwiz doesnt change for any phone. Samsung has been doing this for years now

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[Q] Android 4.3 for Nexus 5

Hi to everyone.
It's my first post in this amazing forums!
I use the mobile for internet browser almost all the time, and I'm very disapointed with the new chromiun engine included as default Webview in kitkat version. The web surfing in all browsers are horrible compared with the old webview. The old is more smoothness and have flash support!
Is it possible to compile a 4.3 version or port a nexus 4 rom for nexus 5?
I think that I can live without the new launcher xD
Sorry for my poooor english...
Thanksss!
Harcoreta said:
Hi to everyone.
It's my first post in this amazing forums!
I use the mobile for internet browser almost all the time, and I'm very disapointed with the new chromiun engine included as default Webview in kitkat version. The web surfing in all browsers are horrible compared with the old webview. The old is more smoothness and have flash support!
Is it possible to compile a 4.3 version or port a nexus 4 rom for nexus 5?
I think that I can live without the new launcher xD
Sorry for my poooor english...
Thanksss!
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It would be too difficult and pointless backporting drivers, kernels, etc to an older OS designed to run the newest version. It would have absolutely no advantage. 4.4 is smooth enough.
abtekk said:
It would be too difficult and pointless backporting drivers, kernels, etc to an older OS designed to run the newest version. It would have absolutely no advantage. 4.4 is smooth enough.
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What you you talking about?
The OP gave you one big advantage. There are a ton of threads complaining about the 4.4 Chrome browser vs the old stock version on 4.3.
I really need Flash support for a work website, and it's enough of a problem that I may have to give up the N5.
startngate said:
What you you talking about?
The OP gave you one big advantage. There are a ton of threads complaining about the 4.4 Chrome browser vs the old stock version on 4.3.
I really need Flash support for a work website, and it's enough of a problem that I may have to give up the N5.
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Why don't you just root and flash recovery to fit your needs? Giving up a device over something like that would be upsetting.
startngate said:
What you you talking about?
The OP gave you one big advantage. There are a ton of threads complaining about the 4.4 Chrome browser vs the old stock version on 4.3.
I really need Flash support for a work website, and it's enough of a problem that I may have to give up the N5.
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Umm but there are ways to get the stock browser on 4.4.
Ill even attach one for you that can be installed. Won't even need to be rooted.
Possible? Sure.
Likely? Not so much unless you do it yourself.
You're going to have to convince a developer who sympathizes with you that there is enough demand for 4.3 ROM, otherwise it's a waste of his time. (As I suspect that it might be)
I have yet to find slowdowns on my N5, so I personally don't understand the aversion that some hipsters have to mobile chrome and the webview version of it just for the sake of being different.
brooksyx said:
Umm but there are ways to get the stock browser on 4.4.
Ill even attach one for you that can be installed. Won't even need to be rooted.
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Thanks!
In some ways you can see his point. I'm not aware of a single thing that kit kat does in terms of features that I can click on that I want. I detest google now. Wouldn't touch the GEL launcher for the incredibily stupid choice of fixing the search bar on the home page all by itself. As if the other 3 ways one could initiate a search from home are not enough. Also hate the fact that I cant designate home and then cant set up my pages correctly. In other words wont use it in its current configuration. Ever. On the other hand 4.4 did take a away a few features that I did use.
In my case I'm not too worried about it, just takes a second to kill google now some of these things are already getting fixed in rom with the launcher easily changed. As soon as the better browsers get updated to work so chrome can be dropped its all good.
I can however easily see why someone would want to revert while they wait for things to get working on kit kat. I recognize many of you like it but what I like about android is making it my own and I find its functionality a bad step toward giving the ghost of Steve Jobs a blowjob. That aint my bag.

[Q] Backward compatibility to 4.3.2

I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx
brijeshsshah said:
I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx
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Lolol is this a real post?
brijeshsshah said:
I have tried 4.4.2 now for a few months now & absolutely HATE it. Also have been reading about 5.0.1 & i am sure I am not gonna like that either. On my old tmobile sgh-t999 Galaxy S3, I absolutely LOVED the rooted stock 4.3.2 running the stock touchwiz interface. Is there anyways possible to put that rooted 4.3.2 rom running the factory touchwiz UI on my Tmobile Note edge? ANY advice would be GREATLY appreciated Thnx
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Hahaaa [emoji23] you are funny. Plz do try lollipop 5.0.1 and you will love it.
Thanks for the reply guys, but....
almaqdad said:
Hahaaa [emoji23] you are funny. Plz do try lollipop 5.0.1 and you will love it.
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jdidtht said:
Lolol is this a real post?
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Guys, thanks for the response. Unfortunately I am serious. Will wait for 5.0.1 to come out & give it a try, but really wanted to know if its possible to put 4.3.2 on the note edge if I dont like 5.0.1.
Thanks
I heard Gingerbread is super smooth
It is possible, however, you would have to find someone to create a Jelly Bean ROM for you...
I'm curious though as to why you'd even want that.
Kit Kat and Lollipop both outperform Jelly Bean, and that's without Touch Wiz. With Touch Wiz, that's a whole different ball game.
If you're looking for better performance, wouldn't an AOSP Lollipop ROM be better that a Jelly Bean Touch Wiz ROM?
brijeshsshah said:
Guys, thanks for the response. Unfortunately I am serious. Will wait for 5.0.1 to come out & give it a try, but really wanted to know if its possible to put 4.3.2 on the note edge if I dont like 5.0.1.
Thanks
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Thanks Beach_Head
Beach_Head said:
It is possible, however, you would have to find someone to create a Jelly Bean ROM for you...
I'm curious though as to why you'd even want that.
Kit Kat and Lollipop both outperform Jelly Bean, and that's without Touch Wiz. With Touch Wiz, that's a whole different ball game.
If you're looking for better performance, wouldn't an AOSP Lollipop ROM be better that a Jelly Bean Touch Wiz ROM?
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Hi Beach_Head thanks for your response. I know a lot of people had issues with 4.3.2, but not me. I loved it. I loved it in my rooted S3 until Jan of this year when i upgraded to the EDGE. Feel like the ui changes in 4.4.2 (& just from reading about 5.0.1) were done just for the sake of changing. From changing the funtionality of the menu button to the email program within touchwiz. They all are horrible changes to me, making the functionalities more cumbersome than anything else.
Does my Edge reboot faster than my S3 yes, a whole 50 seconds faster. But cumbersome UI negates that perormance gain. My memeory usuage on the EDGE is also the same as my S3 around 80-90%. Further more i still have not seen a rooted stock rom running touchwiz (unfortunately, i happen to like it :/) so my EDGE, is still not rooted
Further more it has been freezing like crazy whenever i am in a chatting app like whatsapp or kik & am reading messages, when the screen turns off. If i try to bring the screen back on right away, the screen goes blank & the phone freezes. Only optio i have at that point is to take the batt out & restart the phone. The other option, when the screen turns off while reading, i have to wait atkeast 5-10 sec before tying to turn the screen back on. Either way VERY cumbersome
Anyways, after reading ur post looks like i am just gonna have to suck it up & wait for 5.0.1 update and hope its better than 4.4.2. Also hope some one posts a rooted version of the stock rom running touchwiz soon after. No other choice. Finally I am not sure what AOSP is or means.
My Edge isn't rooted either. But my problem is that I don't want to trip Knox.
I'm using a different model than yours (I don't think it should matter), but I have never experienced any of the bad experiences you've had. In fact, I don't recall any instance that my Edge has frozen. That is odd behavior. Especially if it happens frequently. Have you tried re-flashing it with the latest firmware to refresh it? That should fix it. Otherwise, if you still encounter those problems and your warranty allows it, you should have it exchanged as it could be a hardware issue.
Oh, and AOSP (Android Open Source Project) means, a pure Android build. No Touch Wiz or any other add-on feature or bloatware that gets attached by either a manufacturer or a carrier.
brijeshsshah said:
Hi Beach_Head thanks for your response. I know a lot of people had issues with 4.3.2, but not me. I loved it. I loved it in my rooted S3 until Jan of this year when i upgraded to the EDGE. Feel like the ui changes in 4.4.2 (& just from reading about 5.0.1) were done just for the sake of changing. From changing the funtionality of the menu button to the email program within touchwiz. They all are horrible changes to me, making the functionalities more cumbersome than anything else.
Does my Edge reboot faster than my S3 yes, a whole 50 seconds faster. But cumbersome UI negates that perormance gain. My memeory usuage on the EDGE is also the same as my S3 around 80-90%. Further more i still have not seen a rooted stock rom running touchwiz (unfortunately, i happen to like it :/) so my EDGE, is still not rooted
Further more it has been freezing like crazy whenever i am in a chatting app like whatsapp or kik & am reading messages, when the screen turns off. If i try to bring the screen back on right away, the screen goes blank & the phone freezes. Only optio i have at that point is to take the batt out & restart the phone. The other option, when the screen turns off while reading, i have to wait atkeast 5-10 sec before tying to turn the screen back on. Either way VERY cumbersome
Anyways, after reading ur post looks like i am just gonna have to suck it up & wait for 5.0.1 update and hope its better than 4.4.2. Also hope some one posts a rooted version of the stock rom running touchwiz soon after. No other choice. Finally I am not sure what AOSP is or means.
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Thanks again
Beach_Head said:
My Edge isn't rooted either. But my problem is that I don't want to trip Knox.
I'm using a different model than yours (I don't think it should matter), but I have never experienced any of the bad experiences you've had. In fact, I don't recall any instance that my Edge has frozen. That is odd behavior. Especially if it happens frequently. Have you tried re-flashing it with the latest firmware to refresh it? That should fix it. Otherwise, if you still encounter those problems and your warranty allows it, you should have it exchanged as it could be a hardware issue.
Oh, and AOSP (Android Open Source Project) means, a pure Android build. No Touch Wiz or any other add-on feature or bloatware that gets attached by either a manufacturer or a carrier.
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Hi Beach_Head,
Think i will try to factory reset the phone. Hopefully that solves the issue. But will get a hold of tmo as well if the problem continues after that. Do have 4 more questions for you:
1. If I go the AOSP way, can I then install individual touchwiz/smasung programs like the email client or printer service, keyboard, etc?
2. Also I know S3 with 4.3.2 had knox as well, however the root did not trip it. What is the advantage of having knox vs not having it, besides loosing the factory warranty?
3. If i do decide to root... do u know of a rooted stock rom (no custom roms) that is available for 4.4.2 or 5.0.1 for the tmo Edge? &
4. FINALLY (lol) have u found a work around for the ext SD card problem in unrooted 4.4.2?
Thank again for being patient with me
Hope all goes well...
To answer your questions:
1. I believe so.
2. Apart from losing warranty, there's no other reason. However, my company is adopting Knox, so I need it intact.
3. You may check here: T-Mobile Note Edge Android Development
4. I don't believe there is a solution that doesn't involve root.
BTW, are you sure you're on 4.4.2? My Edge is on 4.4.4 and I don't believe was ever on 4.4.2.
brijeshsshah said:
Hi Beach_Head,
Think i will try to factory reset the phone. Hopefully that solves the issue. But will get a hold of tmo as well if the problem continues after that. Do have 4 more questions for you:
1. If I go the AOSP way, can I then install individual touchwiz/smasung programs like the email client or printer service, keyboard, etc?
2. Also I know S3 with 4.3.2 had knox as well, however the root did not trip it. What is the advantage of having knox vs not having it, besides loosing the factory warranty?
3. If i do decide to root... do u know of a rooted stock rom (no custom roms) that is available for 4.4.2 or 5.0.1 for the tmo Edge? &
4. FINALLY (lol) have u found a work around for the ext SD card problem in unrooted 4.4.2?
Thank again for being patient with me
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Thanks again Beach_Head
Beach_Head said:
Hope all goes well...
To answer your questions:
1. I believe so.
2. Apart from losing warranty, there's no other reason. However, my company is adopting Knox, so I need it intact.
3. You may check here: T-Mobile Note Edge Android Development
4. I don't believe there is a solution that doesn't involve root.
BTW, are you sure you're on 4.4.2? My Edge is on 4.4.4 and I don't believe was ever on 4.4.2.
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U r right it is 4.4.4. Lol I will follow what you have recommended. Cant thank you enough for taking the time out to help me out. Really appreciate it
No problem! I'm glad I could help. Let me know how it goes...
Hitting the "Thanks!" button is all that's necessary from you.
brijeshsshah said:
U r right it is 4.4.4. Lol I will follow what you have recommended. Cant thank you enough for taking the time out to help me out. Really appreciate it
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Who here is still running KK? aka Thinking of finally upgrading to LP

I'm usually first in line to update firmware, but when Lollipop first launched I decided to wait until a stable custom ROM was released, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did because from what I've seen and heard, Lollipop has been a big bust.
Now I am getting a little antsy to update, but reading about the 5.1.1 gives me no confidence. Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues? Can anyone attest to this? Should I just stay with KK? Are the custom ROM's any better or do they suffer from the same issues as stock ROM? I'm really disappointed with Google on this. They came out touting this and that about Lollipop, and it seems they've fallen flat on all those promises.
Stay with KitKat. 5.1.1 fixed/improved the memleak, that's it. It's still not as fast as 4.4.4. There are also issues with flashlight, camera, bounce scrolling, etc.
nubreed000 said:
Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues?
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It's impossible to generalise this statement because our usage and setup is all different.
You also have to remember that the internet is for complaining, and you won't hear about or read equivalent posts with little or no issues...
My view: take a nandroid backup of your current setup. Full wipe and flash one of the latest ROMs and test for yourself.
If you discover any of these issues, then restore. If you like what you discover: win!
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
Anderson2 said:
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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Google ain't listening yo
beekay201 said:
Google ain't listening yo
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You got that right. ?
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
Anderson2 said:
You got that right.
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
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Nah, that's a myth. Always has been.
Anyways, thanks for the input everyone. I think I will try dual-booting Lollipop, or whatever we call it on Android
dicecuber said:
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
Lollipop has more eye-candy to offer while performing a lot faster. The whole OS looks more refined by now and ART is a huge step in comparison to Dalvik.
Ofc some Apps might not work on Lollipop yet but I think you would miss out a lot since Android 5.1.1 ( Stock ROM ) is the fastest update I´ve ever tried.
Just downgraded 2 of my N5's to KK.
My wife hated it and I like Xposed too much.
Now that Xposed is working in 5.1.1 I will probably upgrade and give it a try again.
I keep a 3rd N5 on Kitkat and use multiRom to experiment.
5.1.1 is fast and looks good but IMHO its not as stable as KK, at least not yet anyway, i went back to KK on sunday and it was like getting my phone back, feels more solid and battery life is much better, you very well may regret upgrading.
Lolipop for me became an excercise in searching for wakelocks and trying to diagnose leaks and what was draining the phone, with Kitkat theres no hassle, it just works by itself, the way in should.
edit: i also found the signal coverage patchy on Lolipop, phone would take ages searching for a signal if it lost it,
other complaints i had were mystery battery drains and maps stalling when driving, basic stuff really.
Gorgtech said:
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
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I think this is the best answer and prospect of the whole Kitkat vs Lollipop talk. I never had any problem when i was running the latest Lollipop and custom roms. Saying that Lollipop isn't stable is just saying "you are ****" to the google developers. I mean they are the best engineering and programmers in the World.
I am really glad that i bought Nexus 5 from Samsung flagship phones because i could really dig up the community of android and indie developers providing something for the community. Hell, i even bought Galaxy Nexus after i realized Nexus line phones aren't that bad.
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
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It feels snappier, I think the upgrade uses less resources

[REQ] Kitkat based rom ?

Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo
Ninja_Gundam said:
Hello,
is it possible to have a working KitKat rom on S7\S7Edge ?
Marshmallow is such a pain with some apps, and still so many bugs to me.
Don't kill me, I'm just asking
Chooo
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But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.
TheSproker said:
But why would you even want to install old software on a new phone? Just buy a Samsung Galaxy s4 for that.
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I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo
Ninja_Gundam said:
I know someone will ask.....
i was happy on my S5, but S7 take photo far better and more faster for example.. and more powerfull btw ecc.ecc.
but kitkat is fully supported and customized, like lbe , xposed, led notif, fingerprints,greenify,amplify, etc. on this 6.0.1 (for now) all those things do not works or works not well.
Im just asking as temporaly measure till 6.0.1 will be perfect..or 7 at this point.,
kitkat was the last stable and working for me of the android family, lollipop was a mess..marshmallow is a bit better but not perfect yet.
Chooo
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Well, then you will have to kindly ask a developer to do this, if he or she is even willing to sacrifice their free time to this. So, unless a dev doesn't agree to build such rom, it is not going to happen, which will most likely be the case.
I too would like this, for two reasons in particular. I find the "old" jellybean GUI much more comfortable and user friendly to use, and with more possibilities for tweaking and modifications (currently to this date). The second reason, after installing Marshmallow on my old S4 it became much slower and "heavy" in every interactive way. Had to stay on kitkat. I would image the same way around with the S7, in that it would be much faster and more editable with an older Android version.
See , im not that insane ^__^; .. Kitkat with Amoled expecially was good all in dark black way... with LP and MM it's just a mess of light everywhere; ok dark themes are avaible and we can use xposed to change a lot.. but its not the same thing. Plus some apps starting to refuse to work if root\xposed found like snapchat :| Im fighting with Doze\Led blinking ecc for example.. and notification... better than LP but still a mess compared to KK. And i love to have LBE still not working on MM SD card still not avaible on all apps, u have to works a lot to flash so many zip from recovery ecc....Plus right, KK on this hardware will rocks even downclocking heavly and battery will last so longer.
Chooo
This will not happen.
KitKat does not have all the APIs to take full advantage and optimizations for 64bit HW. Oh and also the bootloader and boot images changed a lot since 4.4. It is better to give up your hopes.
I stumbled accross your thread here doing some searching.
I am interested in buying the S7 Edge.
However, I really hate Lollipop and MM. I hate touchwiz, knox bootloader, even selinux.
If I could run kitkat 4.4.2 on the S7 edge, I would buy one.
Sticking with the oppo find 7 running modified color os kitkat 4.4.2 and Xposed framework.. May even buy another one once I wear this one out.

Lollipop users...why aren't you switching to Marshmallow (or vice-versa) ?

I'm just curious about some of my fellow longtime VZW M8 users and why they may be sticking with Lollipop instead of making the jump to Marshmallow.
I've been running MM for 4-5 months now and I'm not a huge fan of it. I've been having some performance issues with the stock/OTA builds and have maybe only now found a workable ROM in the NuSenSeveN build.
There isn't too much I see even in a properly functioning MM that really makes me jump to abandon LP.
For those of you still on LP you have probably noticed that any version of Google Maps released in the past year or so basically locks up your entire phone (some custom ROMS maybe don't experience this?) ...that is one of the prime motivators for me to switch.
I also miss little things in LP...like the fact that the flashlight had 3 brightness settings and there seems to be no way to get that back in Marshmallow.
We are getting to that point where development is at a slow trickle and no real new options will probably be introduced for this phone. I'm trying to settle down on my "final build" to carry me for the next 6-18 months until I am force to get a new phone.
Curious as to other's experiences...

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