Hey all!
I want to ask a question, might be dumb but i just don't seem to get it.
Why doesn't htc release android phones rooted? I read somewhere that the g1 (i think, maybe it was some other model) was for sale fully rooted (a separate developer version) and that the nexus one is also rooted (or am i mistaken? ) I am thinking of getting an htc desire, but am afraid of bricking it while rooting, and if nexus one is unlocked i would gladly buy that, but it is not for sale in my country on contract.
and also, is it safe to try and root? i mean ofcourse there is the risk of it bricking, but i mean is there a possibility to fix the phone after a brick? (sorry, total noob about android phones, coming from using windows mobile for 3 years )
You can't brick it just by rooting it... well, you can temporarily brick it. To put it (extremely) simply, all rooting does is manipulate the files that have been flashed onto your phone to give you root access. If you really screw up, a hard reset will replace all of those files with the stock ones.
It's the flashing to a different ROM that can potentially brick a phone. If you're worried at all about bricking, go for root but don't flash to a custom ROM.
I'm typing this from my rooted Desire
Get one, go to www unrevoked com and you're 2-3 VERY simple steps away from having a rooted Desire, don't need any techie skills or anything. It's just as easy to "un-root" it in case you're worried about your warranty
I just ordered a Motorola Defy, it looks like it takes a bit more effort to root that one, but nothing too scary
thanks for that link, will be of much use to me once i get my desire
Hello,
Is there any chance to root Sensation XE and not to lose warranty? I mean if the device will break in the future... Or there is no way to do this?
FUXAS said:
Hello,
Is there any chance to root Sensation XE and not to lose warranty? I mean if the device will break in the future... Or there is no way to do this?
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Hi,
There are ways to get temporary root HERE,but you lose everything when you reboot.
The short answer is no. Cracking your Sensation and achieving root and/or S-OFF will void your warranty.
That said, there are procedures detailed in this forum about how you can restore your phone to original settings if required.
If you are at all worried, I would do some research and ensure that there is an RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) for your country and/or provider which can be used to revert the phone back to a stock install and review the instructions for setting the phone S-ON before proceeding.
I guess if the phone is damaged so that it can't be booted at all, then there is a reasonable chance that the warranty provider won't be able to know it's been rooted.
As with all things, this is at your own risk. If you wish to be sure your warranty will continue to cover your phone, without the possibility of argument - don't root.
If you do decide to root make sure your insurance covers you for loss and/or damage to your phone. So that you can at least get a new one if it all goes wrong and you can't return it to default.
So if i understand this right, HTC won't get notified if i root my phone with S-OFF?
I thought they could see if my phone has been rooted because my serial number would get flagged in the database.
Or is the root process described in the sticky post on how to root a Sensation not from HTC itself?
Hi a couple of months ago I purchased a HTC one from vodafone Australia it came with warranty but I'm sick of my HTC sense with vodafones apps installed and I want to root but when I look online all I can find is that it may void my warranty and there are tales of people handing there phones in whilst being rooted and having there device fixed if anyone can help me It would be much appreciate because I want to know what part of rooting will void my warranty and what will not .
Thanks
ok what it Means is that if u root or unlock bootloader ur warrenty will be void as said it will not cover any damage on ur phone if it breaks or goes Down when or under rooting the phone if the phone under any way needs to go to service u need to unroot it or Lock bootloader Again before sending it back to service otherwise the is no warrenty there will cover the damage no mater what the error is on the phone
so here is u can easy root it an install custom roms an use rootexplore on it
BUT MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UNROOTED BEFORE SENDING IT FORE SERVICE
Thank you so much I just needed a straight sender and you gave it thanks I'm just reallysick of not having root and I just needed to know if I could just unroot it when sending it back or if they could detect that I did that.
how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?
Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.
raniero1 said:
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more
raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.
This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.
This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.
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I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."
Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.
cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
balajiasmartguy said:
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?
balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.
y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
denzel09 said:
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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