[Q] why not release rooted phones? - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hey all!
I want to ask a question, might be dumb but i just don't seem to get it.
Why doesn't htc release android phones rooted? I read somewhere that the g1 (i think, maybe it was some other model) was for sale fully rooted (a separate developer version) and that the nexus one is also rooted (or am i mistaken? ) I am thinking of getting an htc desire, but am afraid of bricking it while rooting, and if nexus one is unlocked i would gladly buy that, but it is not for sale in my country on contract.
and also, is it safe to try and root? i mean ofcourse there is the risk of it bricking, but i mean is there a possibility to fix the phone after a brick? (sorry, total noob about android phones, coming from using windows mobile for 3 years )

You can't brick it just by rooting it... well, you can temporarily brick it. To put it (extremely) simply, all rooting does is manipulate the files that have been flashed onto your phone to give you root access. If you really screw up, a hard reset will replace all of those files with the stock ones.
It's the flashing to a different ROM that can potentially brick a phone. If you're worried at all about bricking, go for root but don't flash to a custom ROM.

I'm typing this from my rooted Desire
Get one, go to www unrevoked com and you're 2-3 VERY simple steps away from having a rooted Desire, don't need any techie skills or anything. It's just as easy to "un-root" it in case you're worried about your warranty
I just ordered a Motorola Defy, it looks like it takes a bit more effort to root that one, but nothing too scary

thanks for that link, will be of much use to me once i get my desire

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[Q] What part of the software depends on rooting?

So I just got my HTC One M8 last week. After seeing how terrible HTC Sense is, I decided I want to root and then flash CM. I rooted my last phone, the Samsung Galaxy S3, but this seems a little bit harder. I've looked at a few guides, but I'm afraid that there is a certain piece of software that depends if the root will work or not. On my S3 I just had to see what Android version I was using, but this phone has a few different types of software. Which one do I pay attention to? Android version, HTC sense version, software number, PRI, PRL, ERI... Also, when I rooted my S3 and then wanted to flash a rom onto it, I had to reset the flash counter because I was on Verizon. Does it work that way with this phone too? Anyway, what part of the software listed depends on if I can root the phone or not? Is it just Android version, like usual, or are the two pieces I need. And if so, can someone link a guide that works with my current software? I'd really appreciate it.
My understanding is that the Verizon m8 has only had one update. The root exploit (weak sauce) and S-off exploit (Firewater) each work on either firmware versions. Rooting via weak sauce may be enough for you depending on your need to customize your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708628 follow this thread completely.. depending on what you wanna do with your phone you can s-off and unlock the boot loader to flash a custom recovery and roms. Or just weaksauce root to get temporary root. Which is just a simple apk download you install.
HTC ONE M8?

[Q] Considering getting the phone and I have a custom recovery question

I am strongly considering getting the Verizon m8 today, but before I do there is one thing I need to clarify:
If I get this phone today is flashing a custom recovery/ROM possible?
I am asking this because before I got my current phone (Verizon S4) I checked on the forums and saw all the talk about custom recoveries and custom ROMs and got all excited and bought the phone. When I got the phone however I became aware that all of this was only possible up until some OTA update after which custom recoveries became impossible, and since I had a newest phone straight from verizon withg the latest updates I could not do any of those things.
So, can someone confirm that to the best of the publics knowledge all this is still possible? This will make or break my decision to get the phone.
Thanks
P.S. if there anything else that you think I should know, like stuff you wished someone told you before you got the phone, please dont hesitate to mention those things as well.
Yes this phone is able to be unlocked (soff) and load a custom recovery. There are two methods one is free Firewater and the other is $25 sunshine if the Free option fails to work for you for some reason.

[Q] Warranty reset, possible?

Hi all,
I've had a bit of experience in rooting and flashing, back on my old Nexus 4. Haven't done it in awhile due to my 4.4 Nexus 5 stock being bloody perfect in my opinion.
But coming up to Android 5 lollipop... I'm really looking for a new ROM as I believe 5.0 stock is terrible. So my first question: Is it now possible to restore the tablet back to a state that the warranty provider will not be able to tell it's been rooted/flashed (and voided warranty)?
My Second is: How on earth do you chose between ROMs now? I'm thinking of using xTraSmooth 3.1 but OptiPop has also caught my eye!
Cheers.
Tomo8281 said:
Hi all,
I've had a bit of experience in rooting and flashing, back on my old Nexus 4. Haven't done it in awhile due to my 4.4 Nexus 5 stock being bloody perfect in my opinion.
But coming up to Android 5 lollipop... I'm really looking for a new ROM as I believe 5.0 stock is terrible. So my first question: Is it now possible to restore the tablet back to a state that the warranty provider will not be able to tell it's been rooted/flashed (and voided warranty)?
My Second is: How on earth do you chose between ROMs now? I'm thinking of using xTraSmooth 3.1 but OptiPop has also caught my eye!
Cheers.
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First of all, the Nexus 5 isn't a tablet.
It is possible to reset the bootloader tamper flag and relock it, either with a few apps that require root access then removing root with the option in SuperSU, or simply flashing with LG Flashtool. The Nexus 5 doesn't have anything else to show if it has been modified or not, unless you blatantly have the bootloader unlocked or a custom ROM/SuperSU binaries installed (which doesn't matter if the phone can't even boot up at all I guess).
Also, if you bought it from Google via the Play Store, they don't seem to mind any sort of software state if its a legitimate manufacturing defect that the warranty usually covers. People have sent in their devices for legitimate defects with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs + kernels and Google hasn't really cared.
Regarding your second question: you try a few out and find the one you like. Or if that's not possible then some of us end up building our own.
Lethargy said:
First of all, the Nexus 5 isn't a tablet.
It is possible to reset the bootloader tamper flag and relock it, either with a few apps that require root access then removing root with the option in SuperSU, or simply flashing with LG Flashtool. The Nexus 5 doesn't have anything else to show if it has been modified or not, unless you blatantly have the bootloader unlocked or a custom ROM/SuperSU binaries installed (which doesn't matter if the phone can't even boot up at all I guess).
Also, if you bought it from Google via the Play Store, they don't seem to mind any sort of software state if its a legitimate manufacturing defect that the warranty usually covers. People have sent in their devices for legitimate defects with unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs + kernels and Google hasn't really cared.
Regarding your second question: you try a few out and find the one you like. Or if that's not possible then some of us end up building our own.
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My mistake for posting this while thinking of my new Christmas present (Galaxy Tab S tablet) !
Thanks for your reply, really appreciate it!
I think I'll install xtrasmooth today !

Root Droid Mini 4.4

Hi Everyone,
I have a Droid Mini running on Android 4.4. Running on Straight Talk service.
Is it possible to root my device? I am not sure how to determine if my bootloader is unlocked.
I mainly would like to root my device to use TitaniumBackUp to back up and restore my device. I am not sure of another app that will allow me to backup and restore my apps, app data and settings, without my device being rooted.
Any and all help is appreciated.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!
TolaSkamp said:
Hi Everyone,
I have a Droid Mini running on Android 4.4. Running on Straight Talk service.
Is it possible to root my device? I am not sure how to determine if my bootloader is unlocked.
I mainly would like to root my device to use TitaniumBackUp to back up and restore my device. I am not sure of another app that will allow me to backup and restore my apps, app data and settings, without my device being rooted.
Any and all help is appreciated.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!!
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Other than the fact this is not the right section to be posting a question, I'll try and answer it anyways.
No BL unlock, not unless you can get the bootloader unlocked via a tool, verizons website, or the china guys service for ~25$USD which can all be found by a simple google.
You can try the Sunshine Bootloader unlock apk, however at 4.4.4 I am unable to use it (Droid Ultra)
The 4.4 Bounty thread is HERE which appears to have minimal attention at the moment
And HERE is the latest news on the China mans service, which appears to have gone and passed by now.
To root directly, you can give all the tools a try, and all the downloadable apks and give them a run, one by one, until you get to the realization you are stuck with what you have - unless you can downgrade and then root/bl unlock. Which by my knowledge, you can't - but I may be mistaken. Only reason I say you cant though, is if you could so could others, and there would already be more posts about it.
The last and final suggestion, buy a new mobo/chipset that had your OS of your preferred version installed prior so you can have immediate access. This is a tricky one however, due to this requiring you to tear apart your phone which isn't something most people feel comfortable doing. You also are at the mercy of whoever or wherever you buy the mobo/chipset from - as it could have water damage, or other faults negating the idea of having root to begin with (if your phone crashes every 10 minutes or so due to a short).
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TL;DR
You're screwed, for the time being.

ZTE Blade 10 Prime Root Guide?

I have been dying to get into rooting for a while now, and I figured that the low-cost ZTE Blade 10 prime would be a great first device to root. It seems I was mistaken as I have been unable to find a guide for my device. I am also a complete noob, so maybe I have been missing something? I also need to be sure that I can return my phone to its pre-rooted state as it is my daily carry and I cannot afford to have it bricked.
I realize rooting is inherently dangerous to the device, but is there a safe way I can root the device and have the ability to recover it if I screw up?
All advice is greatly appreciated.
The_Inqusitor said:
I have been dying to get into rooting for a while now, and I figured that the low-cost ZTE Blade 10 prime would be a great first device to root. It seems I was mistaken as I have been unable to find a guide for my device. I am also a complete noob, so maybe I have been missing something? I also need to be sure that I can return my phone to its pre-rooted state as it is my daily carry and I cannot afford to have it bricked.
I realize rooting is inherently dangerous to the device, but is there a safe way I can root the device and have the ability to recover it if I screw up?
All advice is greatly appreciated.
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Well unfortunately you'll have to take the risk to screw up your device if you wanna root.
And I'm not sure if you'll be able to unroot properly after you rooted.
But hey, you're free to give it a try: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/zte-blade-10-prime-root-t4092479/
i know its old but you can unlock the bootloader and root with magisk via rom2box.

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