how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?
Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.
raniero1 said:
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more
raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.
This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.
This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.
scott_doyland said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."
Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.
cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
balajiasmartguy said:
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?
balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.
y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
denzel09 said:
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
Pumpiron579 said:
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
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This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
GameGod72 said:
This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
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I know, I didn't want to start a thread asking that. was just wondering since it is not listed. I wouldn't use that yet, seems like within a week, we will have s-off and more
GameGod72 said:
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
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Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
danada said:
Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
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Bummer. Thanks for trying though.
Hopefully the superb devs on board will figure out a way to do this.
I think it's very possible using the same method, it just needs to be adjusted for the new partition layout of the newer HTC devices.
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
I still want to find a way around HTCDev, but, just letting you know what i have read
buddy17 said:
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
On a previous device I'd owned, after S-OFF they found a way to get rid of the device specific "TAMPERED" logo in the bootloader. I suspect there would be a way to do so on this device as well.
I can't remember which device it was, though...
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Its probably a combination of the device being registered for unlock on HTCDev and something on the device.
I'm pretty sure, sooner or later, the devs will figure out a way to return the device to a "clean" state. All the more reason I would love for a way to get this done without going thru official channels.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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When you flash custom software it trips a switch that displays "Tampered" on the HBOOT screen, whether or not you flash stock back on and relock the bootloader.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Actually read the posts though. The guy didn't send it to HTC.
HTC will still service the device, even after an unlock.
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
Pumpiron579 said:
cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
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If you read the whole chat conversation, the tech was instructed to call it "illegal" software. Doesn't mean it was in fact illegal.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
ughhh i cant believe htc is being gay
i guess im not going to buy one and wait for a gs3
Im sure someone will make a software hack or a hardware one like the SGSII.
JeepFreak said:
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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Maybe nobody wants to be on topic? I guess I'll give this a try next week when I get my phone =\
Billy
Hi guys im new getting my one x from ma bell, in a few days. Im coming from an amaze, amaze forums.
You guys need to understand, htc WILL know if anything was "tampered" with.
Most software bares a timestamps, or something similar that will let them know when and what the phone was flashed with. So even if you reflash, its going to show a timestamp of sorts.
Htc put the disclaimer of warranty denial to give them an option im sure.
I returned several phones rooted, bricked to T-Mobile, and they never said anything. Its like a car, the manufacturer can void your warranty for any "mods" you do....
I hope every one here gets some patience, and not worry about rooting, bootloader unlock , bloatware.
For now it is what it is... and it's only been
... a day???
We will get this ***** unlocked, romed and kick some ass... just gonna take time... and from the looks of it we have some brilliant devs here! .
Be patient and give it some time guys, check out the amaze forums and see what happens when people start whining about stuff going to slow or not happening ( not calling any one a whiner, so chill)... the devs start disappearing.
Ok im done... probably not the right place for intros but ah well!!!
And remember
.its just a gdam phone!
.
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I have searched and came up with no results, can the xt926 BL unlock exploit be used in the xt925?
I ask because if I unlock my 925 with the official moto tool it will be blacklisted and i will lose warranty...
The only difference between both is the unlockable BL and the radios so it *should* work, right?
has anyone tried this?
Yes it should work, it is good for any of the Moto phones with the newer snapdragon chipset (Razr HD, Atrix HD and Razr M).
amedeh123 said:
I have searched and came up with no results, can the xt926 BL unlock exploit be used in the xt925?
I ask because if I unlock my 925 with the official moto tool it will be blacklisted and i will lose warranty...
The only difference between both is the unlockable BL and the radios so it *should* work, right?
has anyone tried this?
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You'll still might have a warranty problem if you send it in for a repair. You might not be blacklisted and you might flash a custom logo that doesn't have the bootloader unlocked screen, but that's a superficial and cosmetic fix.
amedeh123 said:
I have searched and came up with no results, can the xt926 BL unlock exploit be used in the xt925?
I ask because if I unlock my 925 with the official moto tool it will be blacklisted and i will lose warranty...
The only difference between both is the unlockable BL and the radios so it *should* work, right?
has anyone tried this?
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Hello, where can i find this exploit?
Thanks
PantsDownJedi said:
You'll still might have a warranty problem if you send it in for a repair. You might not be blacklisted and you might flash a custom logo that doesn't have the bootloader unlocked screen, but that's a superficial and cosmetic fix.
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Not really, over here the warranty is honored by certified 3rd party shops that in most cases repair our phones themselves (instead of the carrier dealing with it), mostly they only check for the warranty status via IMEI number before repairing it (thats from experience). This "cosmetic fix" is exactly what im looking for.
jluiscc25 said:
Hello, where can i find this exploit?
Thanks
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Google "motopocalypse"
coolloser said:
Yes it should work, it is good for any of the Moto phones with the newer snapdragon chipset (Razr HD, Atrix HD and Razr M).
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anyway, since my phone isn't insured, i wont be trying this...
ill either give it some time for possible defects to arise before using the official method OR for someone that actually tries it and posts here his results
amedeh123 said:
Not really, over here the warranty is honored by certified 3rd party shops that in most cases repair our phones themselves (instead of the carrier dealing with it), mostly they only check for the warranty status via IMEI number before repairing it (thats from experience). This "cosmetic fix" is exactly what im looking for.
Google "motopocalypse"
anyway, since my phone isn't insured, i wont be trying this...
ill either give it some time for possible defects to arise before using the official method OR for someone that actually tries it and posts here his results
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I unlocked the bootloader on my 926 on Verizon. I installed the replacement Moto boot image for the cosmetic effect. If you boot the phone into the Fastboot screen the menu does say the phone is unlocked. According to the creator of the unlock exploit, Dan Rosenberg, the unlock blows a fuse inside the CPU chip and the unlocking is permanent. Even Verizon can't re-lock it with a firmware update. Your warranty would be permanently voided. But as was said, if a third party shop is only looking for a covered IMEI you should be good.
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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xmguy said:
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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Sorry bro, when you wish to unlock the boot loader, you send your device id to Motorola, so even if you relock the bootloader, they'll still have it in their records....
To get permanent root, the only current method is through unlocking the bootloader to be allowed to flash root.
Cheers
I used to worry about warranty too.
Now I just don't care anymore, and I've never regretted unlocking, on some 25+ test devices now.
If the device was returned to a store, I don't think they'll check Moto's database.
If I was worried about a bootup warning, and I didn't feel there were any moral issues (device is broken already anyway), I would just brick the phone. They can recover from that at the service centre anyway.
I DID return a phone to a store once which would not boot at all. They FREAKED out because they said they needed to boot it to see a number. Maybe they were just looking for tamper evidence, I don't know.
Anyway, that's 40 minutes of my life (plus the drive) I'll never get back, because they could not follow the normal return procedures.
And in the end they had to accept the return of course. You'd think they must have had SOME returns of completely dead phones before...
I can't seem to find the answer to this question anywhere on the moto g forum, so that means I'll have to ask you guys myself.
I purchased this device after having an s3 mini. On the s3 mini I was able to install the TWRP recovery and some custom roms like cyanogenmod. But if anything would go wrong I would just flash the stock rom and bring it over to the store for repairs.
But after looking on this forum, it seems that whenever you unlock the bootloader on the moto g3 your warranty is permanently voided. So here's my question:
If I unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP, cyanogenmod, etc. and my device breaks. Would flashing stock and relocking the bootloader get my warranty back? ( i don't know if it makes any difference but i live in the Netherlands )
I hope you guys will be able to help me answer this question because i really want to root my device and get cyanogenmod on it.
Warranty is legally void the moment you submit the unlock code to Motorola. They will update their database with your unlock code and provide you the unlock key.
So relocking bootloader or flashing stock rom won't restore your warranty legally. But if lucky, the motocare engineer might proceed to repair your phone by seeing stock rom on board. So keep stock while visiting motocare. But legally it doesn't renew your warranty.
The answer is simple and easy to find... No, once you accept Motorola's T&C for unlocking the bootloader, which are crystal clear if you even glance at them, and receive your unlock token your warranty is void, period. You don't even have to actually unlock the bootloader, just accepting the T&C is enough. At this point your serial number/IMEI are flagged as warranty void in Motorola's database. The actual state of your device doesn't even matter.
BTW, technically what you did with your S3 should have voided the warranty, but depending on who handled the warranty (carrier or Samsung) and their thoroughness, many got through anyway. To the best of my knowledge the only devices you can modify significantly and not void the warranty are Nexus devices.
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acejavelin said:
The answer is simple and easy to find... No, once you accept Motorola's T&C for unlocking the bootloader, which are crystal clear if you even glance at them, and receive your unlock token your warranty is void, period. You don't even have to actually unlock the bootloader, just accepting the T&C is enough. At this point your serial number/IMEI are flagged as warranty void in Motorola's database. The actual state of your device doesn't even matter.
BTW, technically what you did with your S3 should have voided the warranty, but depending on who handled the warranty (carrier or Samsung) and their thoroughness, many got through anyway. To the best of my knowledge the only devices you can modify significantly and not void the warranty are Nexus devices.
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I've already been to the motorola site for unlocking the bootloader before (xda won't let me post the URL) and I have followed the instructions up until step 6: "Check if your device can be unlocked by pasting this string in the field below, and clicking “Can my device be unlocked?”
After that I did NOT click the "REQUEST UNLOCK KEY" button. Is my warranty voided because of following the steps up until step 6?
(because if it is voided, I might as well just root it already)
Djurre2709 said:
I've already been to the motorola site for unlocking the bootloader before (xda won't let me post the URL) and I have followed the instructions up until step 6: "Check if your device can be unlocked by pasting this string in the field below, and clicking “Can my device be unlocked?”
After that I did NOT click the "REQUEST UNLOCK KEY" button. Is my warranty voided because of following the steps up until step 6?
(because if it is voided, I might as well just root it already)
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No, not yet... I don't remember the step #, but Until you accept the T&C and request the unlock token, your warranty is good.
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acejavelin said:
No, not yet... I don't remember the step #, but Until you accept the T&C and request the unlock token, your warranty is good.
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Thanks for the help!
I have desided to request the key, I'll be rooting my device very soon.
Djurre2709 said:
Thanks for the help!
I have desided to request the key, I'll be rooting my device very soon.
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I'm facing the same problem as you. What made you choose to unlock it?
Envoyé de mon MotoG3 en utilisant Tapatalk
vinz244 said:
I'm facing the same problem as you. What made you choose to unlock it?
Envoyé de mon MotoG3 en utilisant Tapatalk
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I decided to root my device because on my other devices I use cyanogenmod as a daily driver. Because of this I'm used to the advantages it has, and the freedom you have over your device. I don't have my warranty anymore, but the fact that my s3 mini actually faced the same problems and I was able to get it repared by just flashing stock made me think that the risk isn't that big. Also the other dude said that by flashing stock the device might stil be repaired. So I decided to take the risk and root my device. After that I flashed cyanogenmod on it and now I use this as daily driver on my Moto G 2015 too.
So the chances are that eventhough my warranty is voided legally, they might stil fix my device if broken. Because of the fact that they did this with my other device once I thought it wouldn't do any harm to root this device too.
Some tips if you do decide to root your device;
go over to the FAQ tab on this forum to find yourself the link to the TWRP recovery. This is as far as I know the best custom recovery for the Moto G 2015.
Also on the beginning of the FAQ it says you need to find out what device you have (personally I've got the XT1541), look this up for your own case and do your research before you start unlocking the bootloader.
After you've unlocked the bootloader your device will be factory reset, so make sure you back up all your data.
When you have installed the TWRP, make sure to make a 'nandroid backup' from your stock rom in case you fail to install any other rom (might you intend to do so). Keep this nandroid backup stored on your computer too.
If you decide to install cyanogenmod (certainly as a beginner) I would recommend to install a snapshot instead of a nightly. Also don't install an unofficial except if your absolutely shure you want to do this.
For the original download page of cyanogenmod go to download.cyanogenmod.org and search for the device 'osprey'
When you install gapps I strongly suggest to install the nano package (the other packages didn't work for me)
Go to opengapps.org and select ARM - 5.1.1 (or 6.0 depending on the android version) - nano
Just a few tips for you ( unfortunately I had to find out some of these things the hard way, so that's why I thought I would leave them here for you )
Good luck with whatever you intend to do with your device and I hope my opinion and knowledge might help you to decide what you want to do with your device
Djurre2709 said:
I decided to root my device because on my other devices I use cyanogenmod as a daily driver. Because of this I'm used to the advantages it has, and the freedom you have over your device. I don't have my warranty anymore, but the fact that my s3 mini actually faced the same problems and I was able to get it repared by just flashing stock made me think that the risk isn't that big. Also the other dude said that by flashing stock the device might stil be repaired. So I decided to take the risk and root my device. After that I flashed cyanogenmod on it and now I use this as daily driver on my Moto G 2015 too.
So the chances are that eventhough my warranty is voided legally, they might stil fix my device if broken. Because of the fact that they did this with my other device once I thought it wouldn't do any harm to root this device too.
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(Sigh)... Of course they will fix your device, just not under warranty and not for free. I don't know how much clearer Motorola can be, if you accept the T&C and get the unlock token, your warranty is void. Period.
Your ESN & serial number are flagged in Motorola's database as no warranty, the actual state of the device is not relevant, they don't care, even if you never actually unlock or modify the device... This is not Samsung, LG, HTC, or any other company, this is Motorola and it's how they do it. They are very clear and don't try to hide it or fudge it, it just is and they make sure you know it.
But at the same time, the failure rate of the Moto G is extremely low, so your probably fine anyway.
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Djurre2709 said:
I decided to root my device because on my other devices I use cyanogenmod as a daily driver. Because of this I'm used to the advantages it has, and the freedom you have over your device. I don't have my warranty anymore, but the fact that my s3 mini actually faced the same problems and I was able to get it repared by just flashing stock made me think that the risk isn't that big. Also the other dude said that by flashing stock the device might stil be repaired. So I decided to take the risk and root my device. After that I flashed cyanogenmod on it and now I use this as daily driver on my Moto G 2015 too.
So the chances are that eventhough my warranty is voided legally, they might stil fix my device if broken. Because of the fact that they did this with my other device once I thought it wouldn't do any harm to root this device too.
Some tips if you do decide to root your device;
go over to the FAQ tab on this forum to find yourself the link to the TWRP recovery. This is as far as I know the best custom recovery for the Moto G 2015.
Also on the beginning of the FAQ it says you need to find out what device you have (personally I've got the XT1541), look this up for your own case and do your research before you start unlocking the bootloader.
After you've unlocked the bootloader your device will be factory reset, so make sure you back up all your data.
When you have installed the TWRP, make sure to make a 'nandroid backup' from your stock rom in case you fail to install any other rom (might you intend to do so). Keep this nandroid backup stored on your computer too.
If you decide to install cyanogenmod (certainly as a beginner) I would recommend to install a snapshot instead of a nightly. Also don't install an unofficial except if your absolutely shure you want to do this.
For the original download page of cyanogenmod go to download.cyanogenmod.org and search for the device 'osprey'
When you install gapps I strongly suggest to install the nano package (the other packages didn't work for me)
Go to opengapps.org and select ARM - 5.1.1 (or 6.0 depending on the android version) - nano
Just a few tips for you ( unfortunately I had to find out some of these things the hard way, so that's why I thought I would leave them here for you )
Good luck with whatever you intend to do with your device and I hope my opinion and knowledge might help you to decide what you want to do with your device
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Thanks I still need time to decide but interesting! My best experience with support is probable with Archos. I sent them my phone bricked 3 times because of bad flashed rom and they would send me a new one
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I can't say I am surprised, but I thought I'd ask and see what they say. Here's an email and the response I received.
Me:
Hello, Before I order the 8, I'd like to know if you provide the means / process to unlock the bootloader for your devices. I typically run stock Android, which I know you provide, but occasionally like to run custom ROM's as well. An unlocked bootloader will allow flexibility, and providing the ability to unlock will gain you a following in the modding community. Thanks!
Nokia:
Regarding your inquiry about the bootloader unlock for the Nokia 8, please be informed that we may not provide this information.
Additionally, please note that unlocking the bootloader for the device will void the warranty and we therefore do not recommend it.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Best regards,
Nokia Mobile Care team
Now, I am really having a hard time coming up with a NEED for the bootloader to be unlocked... unless I need it to flash another region to add bands that aren't available on my device... maybe?
lorditler said:
If you want to root it, duuuh. Like installing SuperSU, dude. :silly:
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Well, the question specifically was not about root, but about unlocking the bootloader, which entirely different... dude.:silly:
This is so God damn bad news!
Really thinking about selling this phone right now...
Alttu said:
This is so God damn bad news!
Really thinking about selling this phone right now...
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I wouldn't jump ship yet. Fact is, it still may be very easy to unlock the bootloader and gain root, as the device is runing bone stock Android. Frankly, there is not much left that I need root for.
For me, however, the 8 presents a specific problem. I live in the US, and the bands that are listed as supported are missing some LTE bands I really need (12 specifically). I am aware that there are ways to enable available bands for some devices, but I think you NEED an unlocked bl to get that done.
Thats likely a deal breaker for me. :crying:
charlatan01 said:
I wouldn't jump ship yet. Fact is, it still may be very easy to unlock the bootloader and gain root, as the device is runing bone stock Android. Frankly, there is not much left that I need root for.
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Well we will see about that...
Thanks for reassuring!
Just taught to have a little chat with support too...
Maybe there's still a way to flash TWRP without unlocking the bootloader. They did it for example on the Nokia 6 by booting into what they call 9008 port mode (EDL in other words) and flashed the recovery with a tool named MiFlash in that mode. (Link to Nokia 6 thread)
Alttu said:
Just taught to have a little chat with support too...
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This is simply ridiculous and not treating the customers serious enough.
Hi all,
i found an option in Developer Options -> OEM unlocking ->allow the bootloader to be unlocked.
To get developer options tap 8 times "Build number" in About Phone section of settings.
I hope this is the right way for unlocking bootloader.
Daniel
Orca74 said:
Hi all,
i found an option in Developer Options -> OEM unlocking ->allow the bootloader to be unlocked.
To get developer options tap 8 times "Build number" in About Phone section of settings.
I hope this is the right way for unlocking bootloader.
Daniel
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We already know that. Enabling that setting doesn't do anything.
anyone tried unlocking bootloader via fastboot?
before i get flamed for being a noob, yes i know you need to enter a code or something to unlock bootloaders unlike pixel/google phones.
no harm trying right?
Hmm. I know some devices in my past have not required an unlocked bootloader to allow root, but I'm not savvy enougb to figure out if its possible on this device.
And rooting will NOT void warranty in EU.
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
Hasn't a case like this have already been handled by a court. Consumer was right.
frostmore said:
anyone tried unlocking bootloader via fastboot?
before i get flamed for being a noob, yes i know you need to enter a code or something to unlock bootloaders unlike pixel/google phones.
no harm trying right?
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I could only get the 8 into Download mode and could not install it as a FastBoot device.
Sure sucks that they seemingly won't allow this. I was interested in a Nokia phone as well. HMD have even said they want their phones to be like the new Nexus. They really need to support the custom ROM community if so!
Ok so, I can get the device to boot into bootloader(download mode) and somekind of a recovery, trough ADB in windows.
But no luck on "fastboot oem unlock" command. --FAILED <remote : flashing unlock is not allowed
Orca74 said:
Hi all,
i found an option in Developer Options -> OEM unlocking ->allow the bootloader to be unlocked.
To get developer options tap 8 times "Build number" in About Phone section of settings.
I hope this is the right way for unlocking bootloader.
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
Does unlocking bootloader violates the guarantee/warranty?
I just purchased Nokia 8 5 days ago.
Thanks.
TorpodeBaas said:
Hi Daniel,
Does unlocking bootloader violates the guarantee/warranty?
I just purchased Nokia 8 5 days ago.
Thanks.
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If you are in the EU, no unlocking the bootloader does not void your warranty. It's protect under EU laws. Someone mentioned that in earlier posts. Unless you are in asia or some other parts of the world where they screw consumers in favor of big businesses.
and if you had read through, there is currently no way to unlock the bootloader on the nokia 8. If there was a way and devs are willing to move over to this beautiful device, i'd get it in a heartbeat.
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If you are in the EU, no unlocking the bootloader does not void your warranty. It's protect under EU laws. Someone mentioned that in earlier posts. Unless you are in asia or some other parts of the world where they screw consumers in favor of big businesses.
and if you had read through, there is currently no way to unlock the bootloader on the nokia 8. If there was a way and devs are willing to move over to this beautiful device, i'd get it in a heartbeat.
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hehe, i like the way you articulated the answer.
Thank you.
I miss FM radio now, i guess have to do something about it
Ok it seems With luck Nokia opens the bootloader after the **** storm...
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