Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
Pumpiron579 said:
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
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This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
GameGod72 said:
This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
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I know, I didn't want to start a thread asking that. was just wondering since it is not listed. I wouldn't use that yet, seems like within a week, we will have s-off and more
GameGod72 said:
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
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Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
danada said:
Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
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Bummer. Thanks for trying though.
Hopefully the superb devs on board will figure out a way to do this.
I think it's very possible using the same method, it just needs to be adjusted for the new partition layout of the newer HTC devices.
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
I still want to find a way around HTCDev, but, just letting you know what i have read
buddy17 said:
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
On a previous device I'd owned, after S-OFF they found a way to get rid of the device specific "TAMPERED" logo in the bootloader. I suspect there would be a way to do so on this device as well.
I can't remember which device it was, though...
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Its probably a combination of the device being registered for unlock on HTCDev and something on the device.
I'm pretty sure, sooner or later, the devs will figure out a way to return the device to a "clean" state. All the more reason I would love for a way to get this done without going thru official channels.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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When you flash custom software it trips a switch that displays "Tampered" on the HBOOT screen, whether or not you flash stock back on and relock the bootloader.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Actually read the posts though. The guy didn't send it to HTC.
HTC will still service the device, even after an unlock.
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
Pumpiron579 said:
cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
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If you read the whole chat conversation, the tech was instructed to call it "illegal" software. Doesn't mean it was in fact illegal.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
ughhh i cant believe htc is being gay
i guess im not going to buy one and wait for a gs3
Im sure someone will make a software hack or a hardware one like the SGSII.
JeepFreak said:
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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Maybe nobody wants to be on topic? I guess I'll give this a try next week when I get my phone =\
Billy
Hi guys im new getting my one x from ma bell, in a few days. Im coming from an amaze, amaze forums.
You guys need to understand, htc WILL know if anything was "tampered" with.
Most software bares a timestamps, or something similar that will let them know when and what the phone was flashed with. So even if you reflash, its going to show a timestamp of sorts.
Htc put the disclaimer of warranty denial to give them an option im sure.
I returned several phones rooted, bricked to T-Mobile, and they never said anything. Its like a car, the manufacturer can void your warranty for any "mods" you do....
I hope every one here gets some patience, and not worry about rooting, bootloader unlock , bloatware.
For now it is what it is... and it's only been
... a day???
We will get this ***** unlocked, romed and kick some ass... just gonna take time... and from the looks of it we have some brilliant devs here! .
Be patient and give it some time guys, check out the amaze forums and see what happens when people start whining about stuff going to slow or not happening ( not calling any one a whiner, so chill)... the devs start disappearing.
Ok im done... probably not the right place for intros but ah well!!!
And remember
.its just a gdam phone!
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Simple question needing a simple answer.
If my phone is unlock by using a code provided by ATT how do I lock back the phone for warranty issues?
Do I just reinstall the original ATT Fuze stock rom?
Thanks...
If it's unlocked through ATT, it's perfectly fine to return it in the same condition for warranty purposes.
Phone unlock
No When you unlock your phone With the Att Sub Sid Code it is forever Unlocked....
nucentury08 said:
No When you unlock your phone With the Att Sub Sid Code it is forever Unlocked....
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yes it is.......
herg62123 said:
yes it is.......
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I think that's what he meant He just forgot to place a comma after no in response to the OP's concern.
if you unlocked by code from AT&T, then you don't need to relock it to return it. not sure why you thought you needed to relock it.
After hours spent talking to ATT to get the code to unlock my full paid phone, I was told once I unlock the phone it voids my warranty.
Thats why I ask..
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After hours spent talking to ATT to get the code to unlock my full paid phone, I was told once I unlock the phone it voids my warranty.
Thats why I ask..
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are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.
HackMimic said:
are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.
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How would I know what code they gave me?
HackMimic said:
are you sure you are CID unlocking or just sim unlocking. if you sim unlock you CANNOT FLASH ROMS. if it is CID unlocked basiclly wide open then your fine to flash roms etc.
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ok obviosuly no one knows what therwe talking about here..but i can give it to californiyay because hes ASKING THE QUESTION..i dont mean to be a jerk but dont give out answers if you dont know what your talking about...sorry that sounded really mean lol
ok sim unlocking is just alowing your device to utilize a different carrier's sim card and the warranty department cant detect if it is unlocked IF yu used the method ON XDA..now if they gave you a code i BELIEVE that is solely based on the rom you are using because one you flash another rom it MAY ask you again for that code when you insert a different sim..i myself have never used codes from carrier reps ive only done it myself through hardware devices and software hacks...so even if your device is SIM UNLOCKED you STILL CAN FLASH ROMS
and you dont need to CID to flash roms..i personally dont cid unlock anymore because on the bootloader screen at the top it wuill say "SECURITY UNLOCKED" and if you want to do a warranty return and even though you reverted your device back to warranty spec rom and spl it still blares that message at the top of the bootloader screen which is a dead giveaway..
just dont trip if you need to do a warranty exchange just call em up (18008011101) and just tell them your isue if and when you have one and they send you a new device and you send yous back..and viola your good..
CalifornIyay said:
How would I know what code they gave me?
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they only give out sim unlock codes...CID unlocking is done through software hacks...
Try emptying your cache immediately before clicking on the link (I needed to do that). You may also want to turn off any anti-virus software (and perhaps pop-up blockers). You also need 7zip or winrar to open up the folder.
BTW, I purchased the unlocker, and then chickened out and didn't use it when I found out (and didn't understand) what it did. So, I also bought the SIM unlock code from htccode.com. If you go that route, the phone does stay unlocked after ROM flashing (there was an earlier Q about that, I just thought I'd address it).
Sorry, still a little confused on the whole SIM/CID Unlocking, so I have to SIM unlock to flash roms? and what benefit does CID unlocking give me? what form of unlocking do I need to change radios?
pazookie said:
ok sim unlocking is just alowing your device to utilize a different carrier's sim card and the warranty department cant detect if it is unlocked IF yu used the method ON XDA..now if they gave you a code i BELIEVE that is solely based on the rom you are using because one you flash another rom it MAY ask you again for that code when you insert a different sim..i myself have never used codes from carrier reps ive only done it myself through hardware devices and software hacks...so even if your device is SIM UNLOCKED you STILL CAN FLASH ROMS
and you dont need to CID to flash roms..i personally dont cid unlock anymore because on the bootloader screen at the top it wuill say "SECURITY UNLOCKED" and if you want to do a warranty return and even though you reverted your device back to warranty spec rom and spl it still blares that message at the top of the bootloader screen which is a dead giveaway..
just dont trip if you need to do a warranty exchange just call em up (18008011101) and just tell them your isue if and when you have one and they send you a new device and you send yous back..and viola your good..
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You need to SIM unlock the phone to use different carriers (t-mobile, orange, etc.). You need the security lock to flash non-raphael radios. You don't need to do anything (except install hard-spl) to flash roms, unless the rom contains a non-raphael radio (most do not change the radio, from what I gather).
When I flash a rom, do I still have the old at&t stuff on there so I can just reboot with the vol down button if I dont like the rom? sorry to be so ignorant, we all have to start somewhere. Ive tried searching but when you type in "flash rom" you end up getting 392 threads to search through.
I'm curious too as I'll be getting my Fuze on Saturday
fatguybp said:
When I flash a rom, do I still have the old at&t stuff on there so I can just reboot with the vol down button if I dont like the rom? sorry to be so ignorant, we all have to start somewhere. Ive tried searching but when you type in "flash rom" you end up getting 392 threads to search through.
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if you want to go back to your original rom, then you'll have to download the stock rom and flash it again. Doing a hard reset will just give you a fresh copy of the cooked rom you flashed.
So, just for saftey I have located the stock rom for my phone, now, it says it has a radio, the radio is the same version as mine, but I have heard not to flash with a radio if your device is locked because it may brick the device, does this apply for using the same radio to flash with? (I just want to be very careful when I do this not to screw anything up)
scotchua said:
if you want to go back to your original rom, then you'll have to download the stock rom and flash it again. Doing a hard reset will just give you a fresh copy of the cooked rom you flashed.
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fatguybp said:
So, just for saftey I have located the stock rom for my phone, now, it says it has a radio, the radio is the same version as mine, but I have heard not to flash with a radio if your device is locked because it may brick the device, does this apply for using the same radio to flash with? (I just want to be very careful when I do this not to screw anything up)
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also how long does it take to flash?
OK people the questions and answers in here have been done MANY MANY MAY times, please read the sticky threads in the various sections before starting a whole new thread....these devices are expensive and a flashing process should NOT be attempted until you are fully aware of what you are doing
heres a starter for 10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
So I just got my new Inspire today in the mail but I have been having a b!tch of a time trying to unlock it!
So far both Cell Unlock Store & HTC Unlock have not been able to find a code to unlock it?
I received a reply back from both and thus far Cell Unlock Store is the only one who refunded me immediately upon finding no code...still waiting on a refund from the HTC place...won't use them again
Has anyone else had success or failures unlocking this device short of rooting it?
Cheers
Udonitron said:
So I just got my new Inspire today in the mail but I have been having a b!tch of a time trying to unlock it!
So far both Cell Unlock Store & HTC Unlock have not been able to find a code to unlock it?
I received a reply back from both and thus far Cell Unlock Store is the only one who refunded me immediately upon finding no code...still waiting on a refund from the HTC place...won't use them again
Has anyone else had success or failures unlocking this device short of rooting it?
Cheers
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Honestly rooting it is the easiest way.
OK but will rooting shaft me on warranty issues?
Can I still run the stock Sense etc minus the bloatware via rooting?
Udonitron said:
OK but will rooting shaft me on warranty issues?
Can I still run the stock Sense etc minus the bloatware via rooting?
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Accidentally hit thanks sorry about that. It will "void your warranty" while it is rooted unlocked and s-off, but to get your warranty back all you have to do is flash the ruu which is in the dev section.
There are a few stock rooted roms that actually improve the speed of the stock rom while removing bloat.
There is a few people on here that have had a rooted inspire then took it in for warranty.
What is the best kit for rooting then?
Never rooted an Android device so how long does it take?
I would want all the HTC drivers, camera apps etc intact as I have no need for ADW etc since I dig the Sense UI
http://www.htcdev.com/
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but HTC's site to unlock the bootloader is live. It doesn't really matter much anymore but in the event someone is interested in trying it out the link is above.
Make sure you follow the instructions and, more importantly, understand the ramifications of what you are doing before you do it.
From what I understand, the Thunderbolt isn't supported
Only the UK sensation.
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Supported Devices for the Bootloader
The following 2011 models (Launched prior to September, 2011) will be supported on this web site. Devices in green are currently unlockable, check back often for updates on the unlock status of additional devices:
HTC Sensation (EU)
FOTA 1.45.401.2
HTC EVO 3D (Sprint)
HTC Sensation 4G (T-Mobile USA)
Jcase says the leak he just received gives the thunderbolt the ability to be unlocked via htc's tool, so they will probably add it when GB is released.
And just to clear this up, I've been reading around and some people think this tool is going root your device. This is not true. All t will do is unlock your bootloader. You will still have to either run an exploit to gain root, or flash a rooted ruu via hboot once the bootloader is unlocked.
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
I've said my peace.
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orkillakilla said:
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
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No doubt that he is completely correct in saying this, Verizon will not be taking the hit to the wallet by letting this people who dont attempt to fix their phone and the first sign their phone may be bricked. Explore all options when it comes to your troubles before calling Verizon for a replacement phone.
Grnlantern79 said:
No doubt that he is completely correct in saying this, Verizon will not be taking the hit to the wallet by letting this people who dont attempt to fix their phone and the first sign their phone may be bricked. Explore all options when it comes to your troubles before calling Verizon for a replacement phone.
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Better yet, if you rooted and you mess up your phone, don't call Verizon at all. It's not their fault, they shouldn't have to fix it.
If it's a hardware problem, call them. If it's software and your not rooted, call them.
If you screwed up, suck it up and fix it yourself...
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And unless you paid for the kick ass insurance or got it through say Best Buy you may end up getting a replacement phone that is in the same boat anyways. Dam how do insurance company's and Verizon get away with sending these "like new replacments" out.
I have had my phone rooted just over a week, and I have been doing nothing but reading and just missing around with ADB and what works for a majority of other users. Keep reading, keep learning, and dont give up.
orkillakilla said:
Better yet, if you rooted and you mess up your phone, don't call Verizon at all. It's not their fault, they shouldn't have to fix it.
If it's a hardware problem, call them. If it's software and your not rooted, call them.
If you screwed up, suck it up and fix it yourself...
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Jcase says the leak he just received gives the thunderbolt the ability to be unlocked via htc's tool, so they will probably add it when GB is released.
And just to clear this up, I've been reading around and some people think this tool is going root your device. This is not true. All t will do is unlock your bootloader. You will still have to either run an exploit to gain root, or flash a rooted ruu via hboot once the bootloader is unlocked.
DO NOT DOUBT YOUR WARRANTY WILL BE VOID AFTER USING THE TOOL. There is no doubt in my mind HTC will flag your device, and that they will share this information with Verizon. We already have an unlocked bootloader, so there is no need to use this tool.
I've said my peace.
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An unlocked bootloader allows you to flash unsigned images. Root becomes as easy as recovery in a PG05IMG.zip, then flashing the package in recovery. No exploit needed.
Also, along with the do not doubt it voids your warranty, HTC adding support does not mean Verizon will allow it. If Verizon says no, HTC will not add support to the web tool.
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Dam how do insurance company's and Verizon get away with sending these "like new replacments" out.
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You aren't giving them a new phone. You are giving a broken one. They in turn are giving you a refurbished used one to put you back AT LEAST in the same position as owning your used phone.
That, and they get away with it because you signed a contract allowing it.
adrynalyne said:
An unlocked bootloader allows you to flash unsigned images. Root becomes as easy as recovery in a PG05IMG.zip, then flashing the package in recovery. No exploit needed.
Also, along with the do not doubt it voids your warranty, HTC adding support does not mean Verizon will allow it. If Verizon says no, HTC will not add support to the web tool.
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You have a point about Verizon allowing it. I did mention the ability to flash a rooted RUU via hboot.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what Verizon does.
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Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
I think since Phones in the future will be shipping with unlocked bootloaders the site will not be needed for those devices for reasons I just wrote, but the site would be past phones that still shipped with the bootloaders locked and those are going to be the one that will be tracked for voided warranty. In the future it will be as easy and the Droid Charge (shipped with unlocked bootloader) Root method (easy and cake) I did one for a friend and was like "thats it" so painless. There will be no reason to show HTC or Verizon that you did anything to future phones it will be so easy to gain SU on the next phone from HTC on America's Favorite Network.
adrynalyne said:
Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
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adrynalyne said:
Yes you mentioned it, but it is not correct.
A PG05IMG.zip is merely a file format for flashing via hboot. Each HTC devce has its own naming scheme. An RUU is a rom update utility and is in executable format. However, what most people do is extract the rom.zip in it, which has images that flash the phone from top to bottom.
With the bootloader unlocked, there is no need to go to such extremes. You can flash JUST a recovery and then use it to install super user and be done.
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I see. Thank you for explaining. I'm no dev, but do enjoy learning new things. That makes sense
To grnlantern79, HTC will not be shipping any devices with unlocked bootloaders, which is the reason for the website tool. I don't think they will be supporting legacy devices with this tool. Only newer and future devices.
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I want to blame the news or lack of LOL this was the last post I read.
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC said, "Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
and now that you brought up your point this is what I found,
HTC will continue to ship all their phones with locked bootloaders, but will be offering a web-based tool for those who wish to have full control over their handsets.
Dam HTC make up your mind LOL.
orkillakilla said:
I see. Thank you for explaining. I'm no dev, but do enjoy learning new things. That makes sense
To grnlantern79, HTC will not be shipping any devices with unlocked bootloaders, which is the reason for the website tool. I don't think they will be supporting legacy devices with this tool. Only newer and future devices.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by Gingeritis 1.2.1
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I want to blame the news or lack of LOL this was the last post I read.
Peter Chou, CEO of HTC said, "Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
and now that you brought up your point this is what I found,
HTC will continue to ship all their phones with locked bootloaders, but will be offering a web-based tool for those who wish to have full control over their handsets.
Dam HTC make up your mind LOL.
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I 100% expected it to be this way when I first heard they will unlock bootloaders. I think its at least a step in the right direction.
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orkillakilla said:
I 100% expected it to be this way when I first heard they will unlock bootloaders. I think its at least a step in the right direction.
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Yes step in the right direction it is but correct me if I am wrong, didnt the Droid Charge ship with an unlocked bootloader?
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Yes step in the right direction it is but correct me if I am wrong, didnt the Droid Charge ship with an unlocked bootloader?
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Samsung phones are always unlocked and easiest to root. HTC ones are generally all locked by the OEM (well until now), but the community finds a way to unlock them.
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Samsung phones are always unlocked and easiest to root. HTC ones are generally all locked, but the community finds a way to unlock them (well until now).
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You wonder if the reason they unlock them is because they know they will never send any updates to the phones LOL.
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You wonder if the reason they unlock them is because they know they will never send any updates to the phones LOL.
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Possibly, lol. Though I just think they're trying to not go the path moto tried and failed with on phones such as the Droid X.
Those that think they really care about you unlocking it on their site can't really explain how their future phones will come unlocked by default without any tools. Still unknown for sure, but I believe they said they would not be locking any new releases from now on as well.
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would still service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone except its harder
McMichael96 said:
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would style service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone accept its harder
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This is more about keeping my options open. I'm not planning on unlocking the bootloader unless I have to. I'm just trying to retain the method of doing so if I ever wanted/needed to while enjoying the latest update. Sorry for not stating my intentions clearly.
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I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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but they would unless you manually went back in and removed supercid. This method will give you supercid which would then tell HTC you altered your phone lol.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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lol
I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
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I want to do this. Is there a way to do so and retain data?
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via fastboot...
fastboot oem lock
I don't recall if it factory defaults, as I rarely lock
bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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Download appropriate RUU from https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/collection-htcu-u11-ruu-firmware-t3612048 place it on SD card, rename to 2PZCIMG.zip, put SD card into phone, press & hold vol down and power button to boot into download mode and confirm RUU flashing (battery should be over 30 or something %)
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I have twrp still installed recovery won't start and it doesn't boot
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I edited my post for better description. You should do what it says there (you need to boot to download mode).
Also relocking bootloader with twrp still installed is a no no
Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Ok. Thanks. I'm charging phone now I got running ruu exe sorted. Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Np.. Hope you get it sorted.
(the steps I described I described are for sd card method, if there is ruu exe for your variant you should just follow instructions once you start ruu exe on your computer)
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
gunnyman said:
I was freaking out because I was getting USB error 170 running the RUU. Got it all sorted out and am back up and running.
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Good to hear :good:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
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There isn't at least for now. And in any case until there is s-off even if there was other way it will show as relocked and modified after you lock it again.
there's no sunshine in the sky for now, but warranty is not voided in most countries/cases anyway.
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Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
tokenbest said:
Thanks but sadly.. the customer support for HTC Singapore said warranty would be void after unlocking bootloader and any issues would not be covered, seriously though -_- sucks to hear that and making me hesitate on purchasing a U11 currently.
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I got the same response from HTC Czech Republic: unlocking the bootloader would instantly void my warranty, plus they said that warranty-keeping bootloader unlock is possible only in that one special case for US customers, the rest of the world voids their warranty by doing so :/
Rant on the side: I truly despise not being allowed to get root privileges without voiding the warranty - it is MY device, yet I can't control the system. I want to do MY own backups, control (or inspect) the data apps save to MY phone, and control the configuration of MY system. I really hate being locked out from even such basic configurations as the hosts file is - I'm effectively barred from some aspects of web development so that advertisements can be shoved down my throat
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bootloader locked now won't boot
All I want to do is run the RUU to get it back to stock
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How did you get it to relock? i keep getting a failed messaged with the command above.
C:\adb>fastboot oem lock
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FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.004s
tokenbest said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but is there any way to unlock bootloader without going through the htcdev method? I believe that the warranty is voided if i unlock my bootloader and the support will not entertain any hardware damage (not caused by me) which is why i wanted to unlock without using htcdev. Any info is appreciated, thanks!
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Hell no, I have no interest in dropping another 175 bucks, I think it's ridiculous but it is currently the only way to do a number of things with the device. I'd consider it if being able to unlock and relock the phone without HTC ever having a clue was a big deal or there was a Google edition and I needed to change the CID and MID or other things but honestly, I still have my 10 if I really need to get at something that was on that phone but not on this one (for example my Battle.net authenticator). I suppose I could always try Helium though with my desktop but I imagine that's a protected app like Google Authenticator which required root to backup and why I switched to Authy.
I mentioned the XTC2Clip because it is the only way to get S-OFF of any kind right now and to point out that even with its temp S-OFF, it still can't restore the bootloader to factory locked status. It's an important thing to point out, not everyone knows that HTC has two different locked statuses, one that proves the phone has been tampered with, and one that is factory locked. A lot of people ask to go back to stock so they can send it in for a warranty claim or a refund to go buy another device. The relocked bootloader obviously kills one or both options depending on the situation.
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Right now it's only with the 175 USD XTC2Clip with all the attachments including the power adapter - and as of my last look, it cannot factory lock the bootloader thanks to temporary S-OFF so it will show up as relocked which will void the warranty anyway. In other words, we are all out of luck for now.
And it remains to be seen if HTC actually lets us keep our warranty in the US... The warranty in the box says otherwise.
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175.00, S-off is not that important. Like you said a relocked bootloader voids your warranty. Why are people bothering to relock bootloader especially the OP to run the RUU, it is not needed. You do mention XTC2Clip a lot in these threads. You holding stock in the company? lol
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Does it void warranty? I returned my bootloader relocked U11 to HTC due to a scratch on the display. Was offered a refund or exchange. I had to go the refund route to swap colours ( I went from Black to Blue). Was accepted without any fuss.
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Yeah, a lot of people are claiming unlocked bootloader voids warranty now, however US is more relaxed. Every single HTC phone I had was returned with Unlocked Bootloader and S-off, never had a problem. Other countries are more strict I guess. I can understand not knowing the return policy and people relock for that reason(for returns) but I see many relocking for flashing RUU or firmware. This is not needed or even should be done. I'm a RUU flasher with each update, so I know no problems arise. This has been the case for the last 8,9 or 10 phones lol.