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Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
Pumpiron579 said:
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
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This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
GameGod72 said:
This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
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I know, I didn't want to start a thread asking that. was just wondering since it is not listed. I wouldn't use that yet, seems like within a week, we will have s-off and more
GameGod72 said:
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
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Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
danada said:
Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
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Bummer. Thanks for trying though.
Hopefully the superb devs on board will figure out a way to do this.
I think it's very possible using the same method, it just needs to be adjusted for the new partition layout of the newer HTC devices.
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
I still want to find a way around HTCDev, but, just letting you know what i have read
buddy17 said:
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
On a previous device I'd owned, after S-OFF they found a way to get rid of the device specific "TAMPERED" logo in the bootloader. I suspect there would be a way to do so on this device as well.
I can't remember which device it was, though...
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Its probably a combination of the device being registered for unlock on HTCDev and something on the device.
I'm pretty sure, sooner or later, the devs will figure out a way to return the device to a "clean" state. All the more reason I would love for a way to get this done without going thru official channels.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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When you flash custom software it trips a switch that displays "Tampered" on the HBOOT screen, whether or not you flash stock back on and relock the bootloader.
redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Actually read the posts though. The guy didn't send it to HTC.
HTC will still service the device, even after an unlock.
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
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If you read the whole chat conversation, the tech was instructed to call it "illegal" software. Doesn't mean it was in fact illegal.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
ughhh i cant believe htc is being gay
i guess im not going to buy one and wait for a gs3
Im sure someone will make a software hack or a hardware one like the SGSII.
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OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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Maybe nobody wants to be on topic? I guess I'll give this a try next week when I get my phone =\
Billy
Hi guys im new getting my one x from ma bell, in a few days. Im coming from an amaze, amaze forums.
You guys need to understand, htc WILL know if anything was "tampered" with.
Most software bares a timestamps, or something similar that will let them know when and what the phone was flashed with. So even if you reflash, its going to show a timestamp of sorts.
Htc put the disclaimer of warranty denial to give them an option im sure.
I returned several phones rooted, bricked to T-Mobile, and they never said anything. Its like a car, the manufacturer can void your warranty for any "mods" you do....
I hope every one here gets some patience, and not worry about rooting, bootloader unlock , bloatware.
For now it is what it is... and it's only been
... a day???
We will get this ***** unlocked, romed and kick some ass... just gonna take time... and from the looks of it we have some brilliant devs here! .
Be patient and give it some time guys, check out the amaze forums and see what happens when people start whining about stuff going to slow or not happening ( not calling any one a whiner, so chill)... the devs start disappearing.
Ok im done... probably not the right place for intros but ah well!!!
And remember
.its just a gdam phone!
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Hi all, any help would be much appreciated.
I'm from Canada and bought the HTC One S from Expansys a few days ago. It was compatible with my Rogers network, however, I JUST switched over to Bell and unfortunately, this version of the phone, while unlocked, is not compatible with Bell's network. As a result, Expansys has agreed to let me return the phone, however, during the short time that I was using it, I had rooted and installed a custom rom (WITHOUT backing up the stock; boneheaded move, I know). The phone seems to be the European version from France, so I was thinking of restoring to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543588 however, I remember reading an article on Rootzwiki about how our phones are marked once we unlock the bootloader. Is there a way to remedy this? I'm afraid Expansys will reject my return if they notice that I've "tampered" with it and would like to return it fully to stock, unrooted, completely original everything.
Again, if anyone can direct me how to proceed, I would be so grateful. I have two weeks to send my phone back.
Thanks guys!
Thanks
I would love to know the answer to this as well. Kinda in the same boat...My main concern is removing CWM..Anyone have any info on this?
xflatlinex said:
I would love to know the answer to this as well. Kinda in the same boat...My main concern is removing CWM..Anyone have any info on this?
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Based on all my readings thus far, it seems removing the "tampered" message is not possible yet.
In order to remove CWM and revert back to stock, I recommend hasoon2000's All-In-One Toolkit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604677
There is an option to flash the stock recovery.
ayato kamina said:
Hi all, any help would be much appreciated.
I'm from Canada and bought the HTC One S from Expansys a few days ago. It was compatible with my Rogers network, however, I JUST switched over to Bell and unfortunately, this version of the phone, while unlocked, is not compatible with Bell's network. As a result, Expansys has agreed to let me return the phone, however, during the short time that I was using it, I had rooted and installed a custom rom (WITHOUT backing up the stock; boneheaded move, I know). The phone seems to be the European version from France, so I was thinking of restoring to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543588 however, I remember reading an article on Rootzwiki about how our phones are marked once we unlock the bootloader. Is there a way to remedy this? I'm afraid Expansys will reject my return if they notice that I've "tampered" with it and would like to return it fully to stock, unrooted, completely original everything.
Again, if anyone can direct me how to proceed, I would be so grateful. I have two weeks to send my phone back.
Thanks guys!
Thanks
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You can just do the following:
Remove root - can be easily done via superSU app from the settings menu, where is mentiones full unroot
Flash stock recovery
Relock bootloader.
After that if you want, just find the correct RUU file for your phone it it will flash it. The word tempered will go away, but it will just say "relocked"
I don't think that expansys will access the bootloader to check....Most employees are not tech savvy...As long as they power the phone on, without problems....you should be fine.
you will always see the brand relocked. untill we have al full s-off it wil be like this always.
just flash the correct ruu it came with,
if the phone works normal they wont have a reason to look at the bootloader.
Hi there,
I am new to rooting devices and have a question.
I had a look in the One X rooting forum but wasn't able to find an answer to my question. I was wondering if I root my Rogers One XL device, will it show a tampered tag similar to that on the AT&T version? Also if it is rooted does this completely void my warranty or is there a way to revert back to unrooted methods if I need to make a warranty claim?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Can anybody answer this?
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I do believe that someone reported wiping/flashing/updating to a new version and losing the tampered = returning back to locked. Although [myself included] have returned the device for a replacement or fix and they never even looked. Just checked to see if it turned on // why its being replaced lol. So I wouldn't be worried about them catching you. Saying you take it into store though; Unsure about mail in.
Good morning,
The tempered that you will see on the bootloader only shows when you have unlocked your bootloader using HTCdev.com . Rooting your phone will not result in that message. Mind you Rogers will not cover your under their warranty plan if you've rooted your phone. If you were to return to stock without root I'm sure they wouldn't be able to see the difference at the store.
Cheers.
Thanks guys. Appreciate the response.
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would still service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone except its harder
McMichael96 said:
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would style service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone accept its harder
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This is more about keeping my options open. I'm not planning on unlocking the bootloader unless I have to. I'm just trying to retain the method of doing so if I ever wanted/needed to while enjoying the latest update. Sorry for not stating my intentions clearly.
Lightfall said:
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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but they would unless you manually went back in and removed supercid. This method will give you supercid which would then tell HTC you altered your phone lol.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
eraste said:
yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
Lightfall said:
I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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lol
I purchased a Verizon htc one m8 off some guy and i went home erased the phone a 2nd time and realized something called SuperSu was installed and i knew right then & there this fool gave sold me rooted phone so i click the app and pressed full unroot then restarted the phone the app was erased... Restarted the phone in bootloader mode or what ever and the top says Unlocked and S-off but no tampered sign and the software status says official so the questions i have are
1) Do i have to re root this phone in order to lock the bootloader and return to S-on?
2) Will re locking the bootloader or returning to S-on brick my device or any chance of bricking my device ?
3)If my software status says official is that good or bad ?
4) Will i be able to install future updates at all if i leave the device like it is now ?
Thnak you for taking your time to read this.
Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.
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silver04v said:
Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.
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well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...
MH1994 said:
well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...
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Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM
Well lol
scrosler said:
Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM
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well software wise i think they would i mean if my software messed up it would be "my fault" lol...i dont think they would replace my phone