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Will flashing an AT&T tilt with the HTC ROM unlock it from the network

I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?

doctorphil said:
I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?
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Nope. Find something/someone/someway to SIM unlock phone. Not possible as of yet. ROM flashing will work only after you CID unlock your phone, which means you can flash different ROMs onto your phone than originally suppied.

Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.

maximuz329 said:
Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.
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haha, yeah, for some reason i never think to call up At&t for anything... i'm sure you can lie to your provider so they will give you the unlock code (at least until enough people use the same story verbatim to where they realize that it must be posted some discussion board as to how to get sim unlocked....)

I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?

lorettaboy said:
I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?
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SIM unlocking and CID unlocking are two different things.
CID unlocking allows you to use OS ROMs from other variants of the same hardware. i.e. HTC TyTn II ROM on a Tilt. CID unlocking can be done easily with HardSPL.
SIM unlocking allows you to use SIMs other than your carrier's. Right now the only way to get a Tilt SIM-unlocked is to get an unlock code from AT&T, or to purchase an unlock code from someone else (who is probably just abusing an "insider" within AT&T to feed them unlock codes.). Flashing an alternative radio ROM can remove a SIM lock, but from a few posts I have read, it is going to be much more difficult/take much longer for our enterprising hackers to figure out how to flash an unsigned radio ROM and have it actually boot, apparently the radio bootloader now does an integrity/signing check against the ROM and will only boot signed carrier ROMs.

Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?

I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?

ziddey said:
I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?
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Don't think it'll work. I think that the ROM has to be signed until the bootloader gets cracked. Not sure. If it worked, we would've heard about it and it would be in all the FAQs.

I wonder how it works though. Definitely am not knowledgeable enough about this yet, but upgrades have come out in the past for older phones. It wouldn't change the lock state though. Why is that? If there's a way to corrupt it and then flash back the original? Are there any signed radio roms out?
What exactly happens when you flash an unsigned one? Brick or just no radio?

Philz said:
Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?
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Can you let me know how it goes with the call to AT&T? I'm going to HK in December and will call AT&T soon. I want to wait a little before calling since I just got the phone last week.

No worries. Tell them just that. You'll be off the phone within 5 minutes. No hassle at all compared to when I called to get my nokia 6682 unlocked a year ago. Just make sure you call international support

flashing tutorial
Hello,
I am very new to this so please forgive me. I did some searches but was unable to find anything complete. So is there any complete tutorial on how i can CID unclock and flash an AT&T Tilt with Dutty_s_TouchFlo_Final_Rom
Thank you

CDMA TP2 from sprint unlocking question

okay so I have searched and searched and all tutorials all point to http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/ for unlocking but the thing is I got my code from htccode.com now I dont know how to enter this code to unlock my device. from my understanding is this not possible? I used my tmobile sim switched to gsm but never get a prompt to enter lock code.
is using rhodiumw the only way yo be able to unlock the Sprint version? I hope I didnt waste my money purchasing a code I cant even use I tried searching online but nothing! im lost and was hoping to unlock my device but now its looking less and less likely.
Any help would be appreciated and hoping someone else has used htccode.com to unlock their TP2 from sprint

If you want to unlock the SPL to flash custom ROMs, you need this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php
If you want to unlock your phone to use a different carrier SIM card use this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
If you use the websites I linked you should not have to purchase a 3rd party code (although the SIM unlock does cost a 'donation').

burtonsnow8 said:
If you want to unlock the SPL to flash custom ROMs, you need this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php
If you want to unlock your phone to use a different carrier SIM card use this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
If you use the websites I linked you should not have to purchase a 3rd party code (although the SIM unlock does cost a 'donation').
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Not what I was asking but what I do understand is that rhodiumw is the only easy way to unlock the phone that doesnt require a code

scuzzy19 said:
Not what I was asking but what I do understand is that rhodiumw is the only easy way to unlock the phone that doesnt require a code
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I've been reading around it seems you need to flash a patched radio as well.
As for a work-around, the only way to do with Sprint is flash a patched radio. However to my understanding in order to flash a GSM radio (even when it's part of a combo radio such as in our case,) the phone must be "security & CID unlocked". I was confused about this until I realized that it is NOT the same thing as HardSPL unlocked. I believe there is more in the Upgrades section regarding the differences between HardSPL and CID/Security unlock.
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Taken from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1353809&postcount=18

burtonsnow8 said:
I've been reading around it seems you need to flash a patched radio as well.
Taken from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1353809&postcount=18
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So once again buying my sim unlock code was a waste of money and SHOULD have went with rhodiumw method instead. Oh well live and learn I guess. now to convince the wife to let me spend another 20$ lol

[Q] Unlocking bootloader without HTCDev

Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?

HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X

Pumpiron579 said:
HTC Dev site does not show One X, Select “All other supported models” if you cannot find your phone in this list
Has anyone done this with the One X
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This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.

GameGod72 said:
This will likely work, but my question was about unlocking the bootloader without using HTCDev.
This is even more important now, as reports are that HTC is denying warranty if the bootloader is unlocked via their site.
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I know, I didn't want to start a thread asking that. was just wondering since it is not listed. I wouldn't use that yet, seems like within a week, we will have s-off and more

GameGod72 said:
Hi,
Would it be possible to unlock the bootloader without going thru HTCDev?
I found this thread regarding a universal HTC unlocker here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24324567
Would this work for the One XL?
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Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.

danada said:
Tried the universal HTC unlocker and it didn't work. Nothing wrong with my phone either after it failed either.
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Bummer. Thanks for trying though.
Hopefully the superb devs on board will figure out a way to do this.

I think it's very possible using the same method, it just needs to be adjusted for the new partition layout of the newer HTC devices.

everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
I still want to find a way around HTCDev, but, just letting you know what i have read

buddy17 said:
everything i have read about HTCDev unlocker is that if you return the phone for warranty work with a custom ROM loaded, they will deny it.
BUT, if you have the bootloader unlocked and running the stock rom (return to stock before sending it in), they will process the warranty work as usual.
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This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?

On a previous device I'd owned, after S-OFF they found a way to get rid of the device specific "TAMPERED" logo in the bootloader. I suspect there would be a way to do so on this device as well.
I can't remember which device it was, though...

redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Its probably a combination of the device being registered for unlock on HTCDev and something on the device.
I'm pretty sure, sooner or later, the devs will figure out a way to return the device to a "clean" state. All the more reason I would love for a way to get this done without going thru official channels.

redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.

redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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When you flash custom software it trips a switch that displays "Tampered" on the HBOOT screen, whether or not you flash stock back on and relock the bootloader.

redpoint73 said:
This person had warranty service denied, despite the fact that he flashed the stock ROM before sending it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
Apparently, they have some way of knowing a custom ROM was flashed, even if its not on there when you send it in. Makes me wonder, even if an alternate method to unlock the bootloader (without HTC Unlock) is developed, will they still know you loaded a custom ROM in the past, and refuse warranty service?
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Actually read the posts though. The guy didn't send it to HTC.
HTC will still service the device, even after an unlock.

OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy

Pumpiron579 said:
cause of illegal software,
Look,
We are contacting you concerning the HTC One X which you returned to us due to there being a yellow tint on the display. As you are aware we sent the handset to the HTC service centre as it was not possible to have it classed as a DOA (dead on arrival), due to the bootloader being unlocked and illegal software having been installed. The HTC service has confirmed that illegal software has been installed on the handset at some time by yourself resulting in the warranty being invalidated. Simply unlocking and relocking the bootloader would not have invalidated the warranty.
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If you read the whole chat conversation, the tech was instructed to call it "illegal" software. Doesn't mean it was in fact illegal.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
ughhh i cant believe htc is being gay
i guess im not going to buy one and wait for a gs3

Im sure someone will make a software hack or a hardware one like the SGSII.

JeepFreak said:
OK, on topic... I just looked through the HTCdev process for the first time. It seems that we should start by comparing device identifier tokens and unlock files, right?
Perhaps there is a pattern to them or we can figure out how to generate one from the other? Maybe the device identifier token has nothing to do with the unlock file apart from HTC wanting to record a unique identifier of the phone?
Has anybody tried using an unlock file from a different user's phone (of the same make/model)? That would be a huge break-through if it was that easy!
I would think somebody would have tried this, but up until now, nobody seemed to have a problem following HTC's process to get their bootloader unlocked.
Thanks,
Billy
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Maybe nobody wants to be on topic? I guess I'll give this a try next week when I get my phone =\
Billy

Hi guys im new getting my one x from ma bell, in a few days. Im coming from an amaze, amaze forums.
You guys need to understand, htc WILL know if anything was "tampered" with.
Most software bares a timestamps, or something similar that will let them know when and what the phone was flashed with. So even if you reflash, its going to show a timestamp of sorts.
Htc put the disclaimer of warranty denial to give them an option im sure.
I returned several phones rooted, bricked to T-Mobile, and they never said anything. Its like a car, the manufacturer can void your warranty for any "mods" you do....
I hope every one here gets some patience, and not worry about rooting, bootloader unlock , bloatware.
For now it is what it is... and it's only been
... a day???
We will get this ***** unlocked, romed and kick some ass... just gonna take time... and from the looks of it we have some brilliant devs here! .
Be patient and give it some time guys, check out the amaze forums and see what happens when people start whining about stuff going to slow or not happening ( not calling any one a whiner, so chill)... the devs start disappearing.
Ok im done... probably not the right place for intros but ah well!!!
And remember
.its just a gdam phone!
.
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Will Gsm unlock remian intact after upgrade to ICS?

so I am using ATT Skyrocket outside USA. The previous owner somehow unlocked it and then sold it to me. The phone is currently running on Gingerbread and I am planning an upgrade to ICS (i know how to do this). What I want to know is that after upgrade will the sim lock be reverted or my phone will remain sim unlocked after update?
please consider that it will be difficult for me to buy an unlock code so please answer only if u have tried or some expert knowledge.
thank you

I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.

Your phone SHOULD remain unlocked. An OS upgrade should not affect that, or else everyone who gets their phone unlocked would have to bring it in/get a new code every time they did an upgrade, which doesn't make much sense. I Mean I can't say this with 100% certainty but I'd be a considerable amount of money that this is the case.

unlocking is permanent ....

cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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^^ this

cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)

mahanddeem said:
unlocking is permanent ....
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is there any proof of what you say?

machiyara said:
will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)
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machiyara said:
is there any proof of what you say?
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is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.

cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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I missed you man lmfao
feeling the skyrocket xperiance

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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.

machiyara said:
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.
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Once unlocked always unlocked.
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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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yes you were right, phone is still unlocked after upgrading
thankyou
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Has anyone unlocked AND used a Custom ROM after?

Hi,
I need to unlock my device and my guess is I need to go back to Stock for the Tmobile Unlock App to work (does this even work in the first place?). So my question is has anyone used this successfully and also rooted/flashed another ROM after the unlock and it stayed unlocked?
If there are things I need to avoid after a successful unlock, please let me know that as well.
Thanks!

interesting

Well I know my N5 is unlocked under stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I lose the unlock. I've posted in other threads about this but there has not been a good answer other then getting an unlock code which I don't know how you would for tmo. But flashing an intl custom rom will let you get to the menu to enter the code to unlock. The question though is how and where would you get an actual numerical unlock code for a tmo device? Cellunlocker and a couple others I've contacted are not able to get an actual code to use for the tmo N5.

DriftorX said:
Well I know my N5 is unlocked under stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I lose the unlock. I've posted in other threads about this but there has not been a good answer other then getting an unlock code which I don't know how you would for tmo. But flashing an intl custom rom will let you get to the menu to enter the code to unlock. The question though is how and where would you get an actual numerical unlock code for a tmo device? Cellunlocker and a couple others I've contacted are not able to get an actual code to use for the tmo N5.
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Thanks for the response. Yeah, my phone needs to get unlocked cause I'm moving to Japan and I rather unlock it than buy a new phone...until the Note 8 comes out.
I tried to Odin back to stock, but I get a DRK fail so I can't lol