[Q] murdering the lollipop guild... - Sprint Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Oh damn. Just damn.
Anyway, you all may have seen/commented in my earlier thread about my new GS5. Thank you if you have.
I had a rooted 4.4.x phone, then stupidly updated using samsung kies to the new version. Of course, that took root, and, gave me loli.
The UI changes in LOLI, and material design in general (no borders? no X to close, no nothing? and it loses the wallpaper constantly) are just stupid. it's like what win8 did to win7. change for the sake of change is STUPID, and if it continues, I may never upgrade my phone again...
So - I want to go back to a rom - maybe MOAR - that's based on 4.4.x
Is there a way to backup my current APK's without root? or do I need to ROOT this / trip KNOX? I ask because some of the apps that I use regularly I have locked on a 'pre-material design' version - like Handcent SMS, for example.
What to do. What to do.
Thanks in advance, ladies and gents, for all your help.

Bigjohn_S said:
Oh damn. Just damn.
Anyway, you all may have seen/commented in my earlier thread about my new GS5. Thank you if you have.
I had a rooted 4.4.x phone, then stupidly updated using samsung kies to the new version. Of course, that took root, and, gave me loli.
The UI changes in LOLI, and material design in general (no borders? no X to close, no nothing? and it loses the wallpaper constantly) are just stupid. it's like what win8 did to win7. change for the sake of change is STUPID, and if it continues, I may never upgrade my phone again...
So - I want to go back to a rom - maybe MOAR - that's based on 4.4.x
Is there a way to backup my current APK's without root? or do I need to ROOT this / trip KNOX? I ask because some of the apps that I use regularly I have locked on a 'pre-material design' version - like Handcent SMS, for example.
What to do. What to do.
Thanks in advance, ladies and gents, for all your help.
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Helium Backup should do the trick!

Bigjohn_S said:
Oh damn. Just damn.
Anyway, you all may have seen/commented in my earlier thread about my new GS5. Thank you if you have.
I had a rooted 4.4.x phone, then stupidly updated using samsung kies to the new version. Of course, that took root, and, gave me loli.
The UI changes in LOLI, and material design in general (no borders? no X to close, no nothing? and it loses the wallpaper constantly) are just stupid. it's like what win8 did to win7. change for the sake of change is STUPID, and if it continues, I may never upgrade my phone again...
So - I want to go back to a rom - maybe MOAR - that's based on 4.4.x
Is there a way to backup my current APK's without root? or do I need to ROOT this / trip KNOX? I ask because some of the apps that I use regularly I have locked on a 'pre-material design' version - like Handcent SMS, for example.
What to do. What to do.
Thanks in advance, ladies and gents, for all your help.
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This all depends on what version of lollipop you have on your phone. If you took the latest od3 update, you can't flash back to an earlier firmware. If it is oa6, then you can flash an older firmware.

1b0a6 is the last digits of the build number.

Bigjohn_S said:
1b0a6 is the last digits of the build number.
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Then you can Odin a Kitkat tar. You will still have to re-root.
May is Motorcycle Awareness Month Sent from my Galaxy Note 3

elwood said:
Then you can Odin a Kitkat tar. You will still have to re-root.
May is Motorcycle Awareness Month Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
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So I could odin to a stock 4.4.x tar and re-run towlroot? all without trippin KNOX?
I only trip KNOX if I go custom - like to MOAR, right?
TY in advance.

Bigjohn_S said:
So I could odin to a stock 4.4.x tar and re-run towlroot? all without trippin KNOX?
I only trip KNOX if I go custom - like to MOAR, right?
TY in advance.
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If knox isnt tripped for you yet you can follow this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3043571
[How-To] Update to G900P_OA6-5.0 and KeepRoot w/Knox(0x0)
Thats only if you want lollipop, but same for using Towel root. Ive never cared about tripping knox myself. 1st thing I do with every sammy device
May is Motorcycle Awareness Month Sent from my Galaxy Note 3

elwood said:
If knox isnt tripped for you yet you can follow this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3043571
[How-To] Update to G900P_OA6-5.0 and KeepRoot w/Knox(0x0)
Thats only if you want lollipop, but same for using Towel root. Ive never cared about tripping knox myself. 1st thing I do with every sammy device
May is Motorcycle Awareness Month Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
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I have no desire to keep lolipop. I hate the UI and other changes, the focus on freeking pastel colors, the flat design...
And I too would not care about KNOX if it were not for the fact that my phone is leased from sprint...
Any link to stock, towlrootable 4.4 firmware?

Bigjohn_S said:
I have no desire to keep lolipop. I hate the UI and other changes, the focus on freeking pastel colors, the flat design...
And I too would not care about KNOX if it were not for the fact that my phone is leased from sprint...
Any link to stock, towlrootable 4.4 firmware?
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Not sure about links, but I know a few people with leased phones and root and have gone back to stock to return for repair and have knox tripped. Sprint never said a word. Even Samsung has done warranty repair with tripped knox.
May is Motorcycle Awareness Month Sent from my Galaxy Note 3

Bigjohn_S said:
I have no desire to keep lolipop. I hate the UI and other changes, the focus on freeking pastel colors, the flat design...
And I too would not care about KNOX if it were not for the fact that my phone is leased from sprint...
Any link to stock, towlrootable 4.4 firmware?
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Traveling right now but all 4.4.x stock firmware are available in the development thread. Each has its own post.
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NE5 is the build you want.
I'm not a fan of 4.4.4, there wasn't any realistic improvement.
[ROM][ODIN]SM-G900P NE5 (NE5 Modem/Kernel/Bootloader/ROM - Full Restore - Unrooted)

whats the easiest way to find a good custom rom based on NE5? Is there a MOAR on NE5? Or a good Rom that uses NOVA as the default, with none of the SPRINT garbage?

Bigjohn_S said:
whats the easiest way to find a good custom rom based on NE5? Is there a MOAR on NE5? Or a good Rom that uses NOVA as the default, with none of the SPRINT garbage?
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Look through the sprint Galaxy s5 development section.

Thanks.
I think I'll go with MOAR for now - I've run MOAR on my GS3, just replaced touchwiz with nova (I just like nova better!) - and I could put MOAR with touchwiz on my wife's phone and she'd never know the difference (except lack of bloat and it would work better...)

Just to wrap up this thread...
Material design needs to die. really. Pastel/plain/flat/boring.
But - I'm on MOAR / kitkat! The lollipop guild is dead!
thanks to all for your help.

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update via kies to 4.0.4 if rooted happen?

do i need to return to stock unrooted to try update via kies or the update via kies if the tablet is rooted and in 4.0.3 happen and only i will lose root ? and will the update via kies if found will appear in it or i will have to return to stock unrooted for it to appear ? in other words do rooting affect update via kies to 4.0.4 in any way or i can update via kies safely and all that happens to me is to lose root ? i do not need ota update i only need kies update
I too am trying to upgrade my Tab 2 7" and my Tab 10.1 to ICS 4.0.4. Both tablets are rooted so I need to either un-root back to stock recovery or flash the new upgrade OS directly. Anyone able to help?
Unable to update with Recovery installed
I have CWM 5.5.0.4 recovery installed and I can't install updates.
Any solutions?
You can grab the new update in the respective tablet development forum and flash it through Odin. The Tab 2 7 has one I just saw that's stock/rooted, most likely the 10.1 has one, too. I had to go back to stock recovery to update. through Kies.
brandontowey said:
You can grab the new update in the respective tablet development forum and flash it through Odin. The Tab 2 7 has one I just saw that's stock/rooted, most likely the 10.1 has one, too. I had to go back to stock recovery to update. through Kies.
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The only Tab2 7 and Tab 10.1 ROMs I can find are those by ROMWELL which are not truly stock and don't use stock recovery. If you have found something else I have not been able to find in my searching I would appreciate a link. Thanks.
cataloochee said:
The only Tab2 7 and Tab 10.1 ROMs I can find are those by ROMWELL which are not truly stock and don't use stock recovery. If you have found something else I have not been able to find in my searching I would appreciate a link. Thanks.
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....Which STOCK version would you like!?
Gizmo said:
....Which STOCK version would you like!?
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For the Tab2 - 7 I am looking for IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5
and for the Tab 10.1 -- IMM76D.UELPL
Thank you.
would love a 4.0.4 clean stock
cataloochee said:
For the Tab2 - 7 I am looking for IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5
and for the Tab 10.1 -- IMM76D.UELPL
Thank you.
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Agreed, I would love a truly stock version of the LG5 or the new one that just came out.
This way when JB does come, I can simply flash this bad boy with Odin to stock and upgrade it to JB
FlynnErik said:
Agreed, I would love a truly stock version of the LG5 or the new one that just came out.
This way when JB does come, I can simply flash this bad boy with Odin to stock and upgrade it to JB
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Will be uploading ALL STOCK firmwares/kernels for the P3113 7" Uploading P3113UEBLG5 right now!
Just posted the NEW firmware here!: P3113UEBLH1
How do I use these?
Gizmo said:
Will be uploading ALL STOCK firmwares/kernels for the P3113 7" Uploading P3113UEBLG5 right now!
Just posted the NEW firmware here!: P3113UEBLH1
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I mean I figure I download all the parts, extract it, and flash the firmware part with Odin (correct? I am still getting used to all the software I use and how to use it, so excuse the stupidity )
What do I do with the kernel? Do I need the kernel file? If I am currently stock rooted on LG5, did the kernel change? For that matter when we get JB, if the kernel changes, what do I do?
Isn't the kernel the core to the device, if that is the wrong one, doesn't it brick in some way? Or am I over simplifying things? Or 100% wrong all together (sorry again for being a moron still learning all this stuff).
FlynnErik said:
I mean I figure I download all the parts, extract it, and flash the firmware part with Odin (correct? I am still getting used to all the software I use and how to use it, so excuse the stupidity )
What do I do with the kernel? Do I need the kernel file? If I am currently stock rooted on LG5, did the kernel change? For that matter when we get JB, if the kernel changes, what do I do?
Isn't the kernel the core to the device, if that is the wrong one, doesn't it brick in some way? Or am I over simplifying things? Or 100% wrong all together (sorry again for being a moron still learning all this stuff).
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Yes, You could extract the archive and flash the (.md5) File via ODIN or Mobile ODIN Pro! (Which i prefer)
The STOCK kernel is included just in case you have a modded kernel, And want the STOCK kernel back!
Not sure about one, But i imagine if you where to flash the wrong file or even the wrong way you would get unwanted error's and possibly SOFT brick it or HARD brick it....
Ok good so I am learning something by being here!
Gizmo said:
Yes, You could extract the archive and flash the (.md5) File via ODIN or Mobile ODIN Pro! (Which i prefer)
The STOCK kernel is included just in case you have a modded kernel, And want the STOCK kernel back!
Not sure about one, But i imagine if you where to flash the wrong file or even the wrong way you would get unwanted error's and possibly SOFT brick it or HARD brick it....
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Good to know I am well on my way to being smarter than the avg noob! Now that brings me to my next question, you mentioned Mobile Odin, I thought I read somewhere that if you use it, it doesn't increase the flash counter, first off, how the hell does it work? How do you make a device rewrite itself? How does it not trip the counter for that matter?
Good to know I don't need the kernel, since I was sitting here really confused on why you had included that. I haven't changed my kernel, and I never will touch that (unless a ROM like CM does that since I am thinking about flashing that if JB doesn't get here soon lol). So I just need the firmware part, and all will be good with Odin.
Since I backed up my device after rooting it, I have a rooted stock back up so thank you for giving us a clean stock as back up Do firmware upgrades ever leak from Sammy like on some of the others? Like Moto for example, they had ICS leaking left and right (thats what happens when you dont freeze them! ). Just curious what the odds were of that happening.
PS sorry to the OP for kind of hijacking this, I hope I am helping you at least with my question asking!
cataloochee said:
For the Tab2 - 7 I am looking for IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5
and for the Tab 10.1 -- IMM76D.UELPL
Thank you.
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I don't have a 10.1"....But i will see what i can "Dig up!"
Here's the one for your 7"....STOCK kernel included in archive!
Firmware Version: P3113UEBLG5
OS: Ice Cream Sandwich
OS Version: v4.0.4
Release Date: 07-19-2012
Build Date: 07-17-2012
Changelist: 911625
Firmware:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mkklk88j45ef7lb
http://www.mediafire.com/?45el4vnir3hzaj6
http://www.mediafire.com/?234tv3gbobgiueg
http://www.mediafire.com/?y1q9q8q79963dtp
http://www.mediafire.com/?nnn1b7p6dype1fa
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FlynnErik said:
Good to know I am well on my way to being smarter than the avg noob! Now that brings me to my next question, you mentioned Mobile Odin, I thought I read somewhere that if you use it, it doesn't increase the flash counter, first off, how the hell does it work? How do you make a device rewrite itself? How does it not trip the counter for that matter?
Good to know I don't need the kernel, since I was sitting here really confused on why you had included that. I haven't changed my kernel, and I never will touch that (unless a ROM like CM does that since I am thinking about flashing that if JB doesn't get here soon lol). So I just need the firmware part, and all will be good with Odin.
Since I backed up my device after rooting it, I have a rooted stock back up so thank you for giving us a clean stock as back up Do firmware upgrades ever leak from Sammy like on some of the others? Like Moto for example, they had ICS leaking left and right (thats what happens when you dont freeze them! ). Just curious what the odds were of that happening.
PS sorry to the OP for kind of hijacking this, I hope I am helping you at least with my question asking!
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LOL! :laugh: I don't know how EXACTLY it works (Since i don't have the source code) But REALLY simple to install/use!, Yup! Just download firmware and ODIN or Mobile ODIN and off you go! Your welcome!....Eventually i will have them ALL uploaded and posted! Stuff gets "Leaked" ALL the time!
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cataloochee said:
For the Tab2 - 7 I am looking for IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5
and for the Tab 10.1 -- IMM76D.UELPL
Thank you.
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What model is the 10.1" Tab?....GT-P7510?
Thanks!
LOL! :laugh: I don't know how EXACTLY it works (Since i don't have the source code) But REALLY simple to install/use!, Yup! Just download firmware and ODIN or Mobile ODIN and off you go! Your welcome!....Eventually i will have them ALL uploaded and posted! Stuff gets "Leaked" ALL the time!
I didn't need the details of it lol I don't expect everyone here to know everything about everything, just an overview, since to me it doesn't make sense. I am curious if I should be using that instead of PC odin as well, which is why I was hoping to get more information about how the 2 differ since from the description in the store, there is no difference lol and thats just not possible.
So things do leak? Since Moto had build leaks weeks in advance of the ICS release for the Razr for example (I have a Razr, hate the battery life as a side though, get a Maxx if anything). So I was wondering do they do Soak Tests on tablets with Sammy? How do you apply for one? How often is there a leak of a new build? Since if JB is coming soon, there should be leaks coming out for it shouldn't there?
FlynnErik said:
I didn't need the details of it lol I don't expect everyone here to know everything about everything, just an overview, since to me it doesn't make sense. I am curious if I should be using that instead of PC odin as well, which is why I was hoping to get more information about how the 2 differ since from the description in the store, there is no difference lol and thats just not possible.
So things do leak? Since Moto had build leaks weeks in advance of the ICS release for the Razr for example (I have a Razr, hate the battery life as a side though, get a Maxx if anything). So I was wondering do they do Soak Tests on tablets with Sammy? How do you apply for one? How often is there a leak of a new build? Since if JB is coming soon, there should be leaks coming out for it shouldn't there?
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Their is difference!, ODIN (PC Version) Requires you to install it (And some drives....I think) On your PC and run it and connect your device via USB to your PC and flash it....Mobile ODIN is an app (.apk) You install on your device and flash it directly from the app! LEAKS just come when the come!
I knew that much!
Gizmo said:
Their is difference!, ODIN (PC Version) Requires you to install it (And some drives....I think) On your PC and run it and connect your device via USB to your PC and flash it....Mobile ODIN is an app (.apk) You install on your device and flash it directly from the app! LEAKS just come when the come!
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I may be a n00b to a lot of this stuff, but I knew that much of a difference lol I was kinda figuring there was more of a difference that I wasn't aware of to it. Like what the benefits were of using mobile over PC or etc lol.
I do thank you for explaining that much though
FlynnErik said:
I may be a n00b to a lot of this stuff, but I knew that much of a difference lol I was kinda figuring there was more of a difference that I wasn't aware of to it. Like what the benefits were of using mobile over PC or etc lol.
I do thank you for explaining that much though
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For starters, Mobile ODIN is easier to use (A simple app) and doesn't "Trip" The flash counter! The PC version does, And is not as easy as the mobile version for some users
cataloochee said:
For the Tab2 - 7 I am looking for IMM76D.P3113UEBLG5
and for the Tab 10.1 -- IMM76D.UELPL
Thank you.
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Here's the STOCK firmware for your 10.1" Tab!
Firmware Version: P7510UELPL
OS: Ice Cream Sandwich
OS Version: v4.0.4
Release Date: 08-08-2012
Build Date: 08-08-2012
Changelist: ?
Firmware:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bxip6zdcy6dv9cl
http://www.mediafire.com/?dtjhbxeh7yu2kst
http://www.mediafire.com/?41o0zc311ivrcft
I wish I could have used Modin then lol
Gizmo said:
For starters, Mobile ODIN is easier to use (A simple app) and doesn't "Trip" The flash counter! The PC version does, And is not as easy as the mobile version for some users
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Since I had read that about the flash counter, Modin is easier than the PC wersion? Hmmmm.... but you can't use it unless your rooted, so how would that work? Don't you have to trip the counter to be able to use it? Or did I trip it because I didn't know any better?
BTW we are horribly off topic on the thread, if you want to msg me, please do, I don't wanna turn this into a different thread than what it was. Even though I have already lol
FlynnErik said:
Since I had read that about the flash counter, Modin is easier than the PC wersion? Hmmmm.... but you can't use it unless your rooted, so how would that work? Don't you have to trip the counter to be able to use it? Or did I trip it because I didn't know any better?
BTW we are horribly off topic on the thread, if you want to msg me, please do, I don't wanna turn this into a different thread than what it was. Even though I have already lol
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[Q] Switching to Cyanogenmod on 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3

Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
ThePagel said:
I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
scarlyowl said:
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
scarlyowl said:
Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
A_Dumas said:
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
landshark68 said:
No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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[Q] Installing Custom ROMs on KNOX-powered Galaxy S3

Hi guys,
I'm new here as a user, but I used xda frequently. I haven't found any info as an answer to my question, so let me ask you:
Is there any way to install a 4.4.2 ROM on Galaxy S3 with KNOX? There are some specifications I want to add to this question:
1. I deleted all KNOX apps using Titanium Backup, so I think on the software side I'm clean.
2. It doesn't matter for me, whether this thing will trip my counter or not, the only thing I need is to install a different ROM.
3. ODIN got stuck in the middle when I tried to install a different ROM so I had to get back. (which on the other side means that I tripped my KNOX counter, I suppose)
4. I used Safestrap w/ a different partition on it, where I installed CM11, but it only showed me black screen.
5. I rooted my phone using saferoot application.
I would be very grateful if you could help me. The problem is that other threads that I saw only deal with avoiding KNOX tripping. In my case, I don't really care about the warranty. I only demand freedom in installing any ROM I want.
Thanks in advance.
ghostlinking said:
Hi guys,
I'm new here as a user, but I used xda frequently. I haven't found any info as an answer to my question, so let me ask you:
Is there any way to install a 4.4.2 ROM on Galaxy S3 with KNOX? There are some specifications I want to add to this question:
1. I deleted all KNOX apps using Titanium Backup, so I think on the software side I'm clean.
2. It doesn't matter for me, whether this thing will trip my counter or not, the only thing I need is to install a different ROM.
3. ODIN got stuck in the middle when I tried to install a different ROM so I had to get back. (which on the other side means that I tripped my KNOX counter, I suppose)
4. I used Safestrap w/ a different partition on it, where I installed CM11, but it only showed me black screen.
5. I rooted my phone using saferoot application.
I would be very grateful if you could help me. The problem is that other threads that I saw only deal with avoiding KNOX tripping. In my case, I don't really care about the warranty. I only demand freedom in installing any ROM I want.
Thanks in advance.
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Once you are on 4.3 you can only run safestrap and flash 4.3 based touchwiz ROMs only. This thread will give you the info you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
[GUIDE][ML1/NC1] TW 4.3 Sticky Roll-Up Thread (5-24-14)
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landshark68 said:
Once you are on 4.3 you can only run safestrap and flash 4.3 based touchwiz ROMs only. This thread will give you the info you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639337
[GUIDE][ML1/NC1] TW 4.3 Sticky Roll-Up Thread (5-24-14)
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Great! Thanks, man!
Could you also provide a link to the list of TouchWiz Verizon Galaxy S3 ROMs on 4.3?
ghostlinking said:
Great! Thanks, man!
Could you also provide a link to the list of TouchWiz Verizon Galaxy S3 ROMs on 4.3?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t= check here
Never mind...link broke or something
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ghostlinking said:
Great! Thanks, man!
Could you also provide a link to the list of TouchWiz Verizon Galaxy S3 ROMs on 4.3?
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Everything you needed was in the link I provided. In the OP (Original Post, or first post) of the thread I linked, the fifth link provided is titled "TW 4.3 Download list." Click on that link and you will see a list of 4.3 Touchwiz ROMs that are safestrap compatible. Here is the link to that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50448953#post50448953
You need to make sure to read everything liked so you are completely knowledgeable about what you are doing before you do it.

Who's still unrooted & on 4.1.2??

Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I'm rooted and on 4.1.2 deodex stock. The kernel is unlocked still. I got rid of the constant update warning by deleting the one recommended file. This phone is so old I don't remember all the steps to get here anymore. I'm sure the threads that I followed are still here buried so deep cause they're so old and ancient. Sorry, can't help you find them.
I'm super happy with it and with my unlimited data and a fully working TiBU Pro and tethering, I have no reason to update. Until I'm ready for the next greatest phablet sometime after next month.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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Wow man, I kept my backup for 4.1.2 but never looked back on rooting and unlocking, which you still have the option to do. I would not take any OTAs as the BootLoader will be locked permanently and word is verizon has been finding ways to block root
Here's the thread for those of you still on 4.1.2 and looking to unlock and root, this tool is pretty simple but you need a pc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
LLStarks said:
People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
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Agree somewhat with that. Casual works just fine for those on 4.1.2 also. I used it when I unlocked and rooted and never looked back, it's also in the previous post before yours
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Alternatively you...
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
woody165 said:
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
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Some 1-click methods are quite questionable and dangerous though
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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TheAlmightyBob said:
Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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Some people just choose not to root but most take the OTA, props to you for not taking the ota though
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
anyone using Evdo? can you share your configuration ?
Still rockin' Cleanrom 7! No joke..
My wife's been using the GS3 I gave her and I had it flashed to the stablest rom at the time.
It's getting some age on it for sure and acting wonky so I'm trying to figure out what I should do with it.. In the hunt for what to do to keep it a solid worker for the Mrs. Heck, last time I flashed anything it was that rom on this old GS3 to get her going. Yes, I went to the dark-side, so haven't been a flashoholic like my previous android days. So now I gotta learn up so I can fix this thing. Been a while.. huh
A testament though for Scott's kicking Cleanrom for this phone. What a beast to hang on so long and fairly decently on this phone.
What to do?
Considering trying to odin to a stock rom or something to do an OTA, which I know will lock it's b-loader, or some other option for a pretty solid TW updated rom of some kind.
Reading up now in here to find out.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I am rooted on Kitkat 4.4.4
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
mwebb34 said:
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
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Yup it sure can. As long as it's on 4.1.2 or earlier the bootloader can be unlocked. As far as rooting it can be rooted even up to 4.4.2
From my CM11 S3
Jealous!!!
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
santanac said:
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
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Sadly I've read a lot of people updating it by mistake to 4.3, your not the only one
From my CM11 S3
just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
Croda said:
just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
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That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
From my CM11 S3
ShapesBlue said:
That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
From my CM11 S3
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I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
kgirlx said:
I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
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Good for you. I never looked back when I unlocked my bootloader. I love being able to flash nearly any custom rom there is
From my CM11 S3

should i keep stock or root and flash stuff?

i just got an s6 and enjoy it stock but it does have tons of bloatware and is a little hard to manage (status, verizon messager app, etc)
what did you guys do that you enjoyed and didnt regret on your phone? i used to have xposed but it doesnt work here
wetshrimp said:
i just got an s6 and enjoy it stock but it does have tons of bloatware and is a little hard to manage (status, verizon messager app, etc)
what did you guys do that you enjoyed and didnt regret on your phone? i used to have xposed but it doesnt work here
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Depending on what firmware version you have you may not even be able to root. But personally I did it so I could get rid of the massive amounts of bloatware
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wetshrimp said:
i just got an s6 and enjoy it stock but it does have tons of bloatware and is a little hard to manage (status, verizon messager app, etc)
what did you guys do that you enjoyed and didnt regret on your phone? i used to have xposed but it doesnt work here
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I rooted my s6 and am running a slim version of the stick rom. I found that the battery is slightly better without all the other Samsung apps.
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Rooted and on clean rom lite 1.1.
Rooted on stock ROM but removed bloatware, unwanted ringtones and notifications.
If you're on OC3 or OE2 and you know and fully understand the rooting process and the pros and cons that come along with rooting, GO FOR IT!
Debloat and have more control of your device.
If I weren't stuck on OF1, I'd be abusing the [email protected]#t out of my phone right now.
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If you're on OC3 or OE2 and you know and fully understand the rooting process and the pros and cons that come along with rooting, GO FOR IT!
Debloat and have more control of your device.
If I weren't stuck on OF1, I'd be abusing the [email protected]#t out of my phone right now.
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ugh i think im on of1
i installed that 10min ota update because i wasnt thinking straight. cant tell if i had of1 already or it updated me to of1
Sucks for us then.

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