Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
ThePagel said:
I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
scarlyowl said:
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
scarlyowl said:
Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
A_Dumas said:
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
landshark68 said:
No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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I always hate asking questions like this, because someone inevitably points me to a link that was super-easy to find and I scratch my head wondering how I missed it! But, I am looking for a rooted stock ROM (latest) download link.
I recently upgraded my phone and made the mistake of selling it to someone with the latest CM ROM on it. Although I informed them that it wasn't 100% functional and of course once they had problems with it they returned it to me.
Hence the request for the latest rooted stock rom. I want it rooted since people do look for that and it's on them if they decide to try out new ROMs.
As always, thanks for the assistance.
Does the person you're selling the phone to want it rooted? Cuz they can't flash roms if the bootloader is not unlocked which means you would need to do both.
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It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Does the person you're selling the phone to want it rooted? Cuz they can't flash roms if the bootloader is not unlocked which means you would need to do both.
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Sisren said:
It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
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I would not give someone a rooted and unlocked phone unless they request it. If they request it then fine. Bit otherwise it's a very bad idea. They could be someone who had no idea what root means and screw their phone up. They would take it to Verizon to have it fixed and then Verizon would say "Sorry we don't help people who has modified their software" (root and unlocked).
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Sisren said:
It is unlocked and rooted at the moment. I only want to put a stock rom on there to ensure that there are no technical issues that a potential buyer might have running a custom rom (and that they can take it into a verizon store for support).
If necessary, I guess I could unroot it by putting the stock rom back on it and then go through the motions of re-rooting and unlocking. I just assumed that there was a rooted stock rom availble I could flash.
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Aight, here it is then. Credit goes to Scrosler for the work. I do agree with @Sandman-007 though, I'd set it back to stock, unrooted and be done with it all. Leaves no stone unturned. Just make sure it is openly stated that the device is rooted and unlocked but with the stock rom installed. Anything less would be negligent.
Sandman-007 said:
I would not give someone a rooted and unlocked phone unless they request it. If they request it then fine. Bit otherwise it's a very bad idea. They could be someone who had no idea what root means and screw their phone up. They would take it to Verizon to have it fixed and then Verizon would say "Sorry we don't help people who has modified their software" (root and unlocked).
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I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
importiconep3 said:
I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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4.3 OTA is LOCKED down! If you attempt to flash a ROM or recovery, you WILL HARD BRICK your phone
Doubtful because it hasn't happened to the s4 people. I would say hope for safestrap.
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I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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jjosph said:
I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
landshark68 said:
That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
omniball3000 said:
If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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Yes, if you took the 4.3 OTA and try to flash an older stock build, you will brick your phone. As it stands right now, if you took the OTA you can root it, but you are still stuck on that stock ROM.
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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ATGkompressor said:
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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As of right now if you took the OTA update to Android 4.3 your hopes of doing anything custom other than rooting your phone are hopeless.
In order to flash a ROM such as Android 4.4.X aka KitKat you need a custom recovery manager. To be able to flash anything the first thing you need is an unlocked bootloader. The OTA update has locked the bootloader down so that you if you were to try and install CWM or TWRP recovery as soon as you boot into recovery mode you are going to get a Yellow Triangle that says "Verizon has detected unauthorized software on this phone, please turn off your phone and take it in to your nearest Verizon Store.
If you turn off your phone and power it back on you will keep getting that message...
The only way around it is to boot into Download Mode -> Vol Down + HOME for 2 Seconds then hit Power (if i remember correctly). After you boot into download mode you can then boot your phone back up regularly.
If you have made the mistake of trying to put a custom recovery on your phone you can put the stock recovery back on your SGS3 (stock recovery is better than no recovery) by downloading the recovery image and overwriting your custom recovery with the command "dd" in Android Terminal Emulator. For this to work you must be rooted.
Here is a link to the tutorial which shows you how to write the stock bootloader and stock recovery back to your Verizon (d2vzw) SGS3 in case you have made this mistake...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
In that thread pay close attention to the 2nd post as it shows you the commands to use to write your stock recovery or stock bootloader back to your phone.
I know it sucks that we can't put custom ROM's or a custom recovery (this hurts the most!) on our Verizon phone for now at least...
COME ON VERIZON EMPLOYEES! LEAK THE UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! WE WONT TELL!
Maybe we will get lucky and some international version will come out and we can use that...
I remember awhile back that ASUS locked their bootloader on their Transformer tablet and you could request it from ASUS and they made you fill out this form saying that you understood by unlocking your bootloader you could not make a claim for a warranty. Why can't Verizon do that!?
I pray someone works this out eventually...
"Hope for the best prepare for the worst" - ?
-droidshadow
ATGkompressor said:
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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That would still require you to have a custom recovery. Also that would still most likely brick your phone cause the only 4.4 ROMS are AOSP based, meaning it installs a different kernel than the stock one. Thus when when the phone would boot up it would check the the kernels signature and would brick upon not finding one.
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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ATGkompressor said:
Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Safestrap is not available for the s3. It would have to be ported.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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ATGkompressor said:
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
wenzer said:
You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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Probably not, it's a 14 day return window now.
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They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
I've looking for one and I bricked my phone twice. It looks likes it's going to be a min before we see one.
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danielevon said:
They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
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There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
Via Solitary Confined SGS3
ATGkompressor said:
There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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Cleanrom 8 and samstock.
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And most of them say specifically that they are for unlocked bootloaders or not compatible with safestrap. Is there some trick I need to know to flash these roms in safestrap on 4.3 with a locked bootloader?
I just received my warranty replacement S3 from verizon and noticed it came with 4.3 installed. I looked around to find out how to root it and unlock the bootloader and from what I've read, the bootloader is locked completely, for now... Is there a root method I can use that won't trip this Knox crap? Sorry, I tried googling and searching but couldn't find a whole lot. I didn't even know about this Knox crap since I was always on CM11.
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I just received my warranty replacement S3 from verizon and noticed it came with 4.3 installed. I looked around to find out how to root it and unlock the bootloader and from what I've read, the bootloader is locked completely, for now... Is there a root method I can use that won't trip this Knox crap? Sorry, I tried googling and searching but couldn't find a whole lot. I didn't even know about this Knox crap since I was always on CM11.
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The only root method we have for VRUCML1 4.3 update is Saferoot. As you can see, it is in the S4 section but has been confirmed to work for the S3 on 4.3 plenty of times. You will obtain root access if you follow this.
SlimSnoopOS said:
The only root method we have for VRUCML1 4.3 update is Saferoot. As you can see, it is in the S4 section but has been confirmed to work for the S3 on 4.3 plenty of times. You will obtain root access if you follow this.
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Thank you, I'm rooted now. Hopefully someone will find a way around this knox security thing verizon's got going on. Otherwise I'll be on stock rooted 4.3 for awhile. Thanks again, rooted is a lot better than nothing
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Thank you, I'm rooted now. Hopefully someone will find a way around this knox security thing verizon's got going on. Otherwise I'll be on stock rooted 4.3 for awhile. Thanks again, rooted is a lot better than nothing
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No problem! Would you like to run custom TW VRUCML1 roms? Cuz Hashcode ported Safestrap over to the S3 which allows one to flash roms based on the same kernel as the VRUCML1 OTA.
Edit: Safestrap http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605648
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I received my warranty replacement too and it had 4.12. I rooted it right away.
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Reading this thread reminds me wen i was at a corp vzw store noticed some of there display devices didn't have the 4.3ota and also noticed a customers getting new fone(s4) and not having the 4.3ota he was able to ignore it. I guess its luck
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Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I'm rooted and on 4.1.2 deodex stock. The kernel is unlocked still. I got rid of the constant update warning by deleting the one recommended file. This phone is so old I don't remember all the steps to get here anymore. I'm sure the threads that I followed are still here buried so deep cause they're so old and ancient. Sorry, can't help you find them.
I'm super happy with it and with my unlimited data and a fully working TiBU Pro and tethering, I have no reason to update. Until I'm ready for the next greatest phablet sometime after next month.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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Wow man, I kept my backup for 4.1.2 but never looked back on rooting and unlocking, which you still have the option to do. I would not take any OTAs as the BootLoader will be locked permanently and word is verizon has been finding ways to block root
Here's the thread for those of you still on 4.1.2 and looking to unlock and root, this tool is pretty simple but you need a pc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
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People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
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Agree somewhat with that. Casual works just fine for those on 4.1.2 also. I used it when I unlocked and rooted and never looked back, it's also in the previous post before yours
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Alternatively you...
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
woody165 said:
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
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Some 1-click methods are quite questionable and dangerous though
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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TheAlmightyBob said:
Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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Some people just choose not to root but most take the OTA, props to you for not taking the ota though
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
anyone using Evdo? can you share your configuration ?
Still rockin' Cleanrom 7! No joke..
My wife's been using the GS3 I gave her and I had it flashed to the stablest rom at the time.
It's getting some age on it for sure and acting wonky so I'm trying to figure out what I should do with it.. In the hunt for what to do to keep it a solid worker for the Mrs. Heck, last time I flashed anything it was that rom on this old GS3 to get her going. Yes, I went to the dark-side, so haven't been a flashoholic like my previous android days. So now I gotta learn up so I can fix this thing. Been a while.. huh
A testament though for Scott's kicking Cleanrom for this phone. What a beast to hang on so long and fairly decently on this phone.
What to do?
Considering trying to odin to a stock rom or something to do an OTA, which I know will lock it's b-loader, or some other option for a pretty solid TW updated rom of some kind.
Reading up now in here to find out.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I am rooted on Kitkat 4.4.4
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
mwebb34 said:
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
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Yup it sure can. As long as it's on 4.1.2 or earlier the bootloader can be unlocked. As far as rooting it can be rooted even up to 4.4.2
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Jealous!!!
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
santanac said:
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
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Sadly I've read a lot of people updating it by mistake to 4.3, your not the only one
From my CM11 S3
just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
Croda said:
just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
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That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
From my CM11 S3
ShapesBlue said:
That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
From my CM11 S3
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I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
kgirlx said:
I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
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Good for you. I never looked back when I unlocked my bootloader. I love being able to flash nearly any custom rom there is
From my CM11 S3
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
Trafalgar747 said:
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
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If on stock 4.4.2 you can't unlock the bootloader or run CM
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ShapesBlue said:
If on stock 4.4.2 you can't unlock the bootloader or run CM
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Wht not?
Owl_ said:
Wht not?
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The bootloader is locked on 4.4.2
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Trafalgar747 said:
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
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There is absolutely no way to unlock bootloader on kit kat or newer, period. Attempting to use anything custom of any kind will only lead to a brick and then it requires JTAG to recover the device but even that isn't guaranteed.
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Droidriven said:
There is absolutely no way to unlock bootloader on kit kat or newer, period. Attempting to use anything custom of any kind will only lead to a brick and then it requires JTAG to recover the device but even that isn't guaranteed.
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Question: If I never intend to use the phone on a cell tower again - meaning I'm just using it at home on wifi - does that somehow allow me to do more than just root on 4.4? Even after debloating, this thing is getting really clunky and slow.
I wish there was a way to revert to a less-resource-demanding OS so that this phone could be faster for browsing, watching Netflix, controlling smart home stuff, etc.
tbtregenza said:
Question: If I never intend to use the phone on a cell tower again - meaning I'm just using it at home on wifi - does that somehow allow me to do more than just root on 4.4? Even after debloating, this thing is getting really clunky and slow.
I wish there was a way to revert to a less-resource-demanding OS so that this phone could be faster for browsing, watching Netflix, controlling smart home stuff, etc.
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If you have 4.4 then you're stuck with it. Your only other options are using Xposed or using Safestrap Recovery with modified stock ROMs but I think Safestrap is no longer available unless you find someone that has a copy somewhere, I think the modified stock ROMs are still available, not sure, I have the Straight Talk S3 and use the Verizon custom ROMs, never used Verizon S3 or Safestrap but I'm familiar enough with the Verizon S3 to know what you can and can't flash it with.
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ShapesBlue said:
The bootloader is locked on 4.4.2
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I always thought my locked bootloader was pre-locked by the company I bought it from! What was the reason they locked it?
Owl_ said:
I always thought my locked bootloader was pre-locked by the company I bought it from! What was the reason they locked it?
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Um no. It was locked down by Verizon. You can thank them for it. The real reason is because they like to make customers miserable. But no the real reason is they want to have control of everything and don't like it when customers can take control of their own devices
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