I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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4.3 OTA is LOCKED down! If you attempt to flash a ROM or recovery, you WILL HARD BRICK your phone
Doubtful because it hasn't happened to the s4 people. I would say hope for safestrap.
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I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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jjosph said:
I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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Yes, if you took the 4.3 OTA and try to flash an older stock build, you will brick your phone. As it stands right now, if you took the OTA you can root it, but you are still stuck on that stock ROM.
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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As of right now if you took the OTA update to Android 4.3 your hopes of doing anything custom other than rooting your phone are hopeless.
In order to flash a ROM such as Android 4.4.X aka KitKat you need a custom recovery manager. To be able to flash anything the first thing you need is an unlocked bootloader. The OTA update has locked the bootloader down so that you if you were to try and install CWM or TWRP recovery as soon as you boot into recovery mode you are going to get a Yellow Triangle that says "Verizon has detected unauthorized software on this phone, please turn off your phone and take it in to your nearest Verizon Store.
If you turn off your phone and power it back on you will keep getting that message...
The only way around it is to boot into Download Mode -> Vol Down + HOME for 2 Seconds then hit Power (if i remember correctly). After you boot into download mode you can then boot your phone back up regularly.
If you have made the mistake of trying to put a custom recovery on your phone you can put the stock recovery back on your SGS3 (stock recovery is better than no recovery) by downloading the recovery image and overwriting your custom recovery with the command "dd" in Android Terminal Emulator. For this to work you must be rooted.
Here is a link to the tutorial which shows you how to write the stock bootloader and stock recovery back to your Verizon (d2vzw) SGS3 in case you have made this mistake...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
In that thread pay close attention to the 2nd post as it shows you the commands to use to write your stock recovery or stock bootloader back to your phone.
I know it sucks that we can't put custom ROM's or a custom recovery (this hurts the most!) on our Verizon phone for now at least...
COME ON VERIZON EMPLOYEES! LEAK THE UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! WE WONT TELL!
Maybe we will get lucky and some international version will come out and we can use that...
I remember awhile back that ASUS locked their bootloader on their Transformer tablet and you could request it from ASUS and they made you fill out this form saying that you understood by unlocking your bootloader you could not make a claim for a warranty. Why can't Verizon do that!?
I pray someone works this out eventually...
"Hope for the best prepare for the worst" - ?
-droidshadow
ATGkompressor said:
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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That would still require you to have a custom recovery. Also that would still most likely brick your phone cause the only 4.4 ROMS are AOSP based, meaning it installs a different kernel than the stock one. Thus when when the phone would boot up it would check the the kernels signature and would brick upon not finding one.
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Safestrap is not available for the s3. It would have to be ported.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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ATGkompressor said:
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
wenzer said:
You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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Probably not, it's a 14 day return window now.
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They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
I've looking for one and I bricked my phone twice. It looks likes it's going to be a min before we see one.
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danielevon said:
They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
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There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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Cleanrom 8 and samstock.
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And most of them say specifically that they are for unlocked bootloaders or not compatible with safestrap. Is there some trick I need to know to flash these roms in safestrap on 4.3 with a locked bootloader?
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So if i unlock my bootloader will i be able to take the JB OTA when it arrives? If not how do i restore the locked bootloader? Also what if my phone has issues.. Would vzw notice i have this?
Sorry if these r dumb questions. I am not 100% on unlocking it.
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Adam outler specifically stated to not do any ota's after unlocking the bootloader...besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways. Im not 100% but Adam has a stock bootloader.tar posted in the op of his thread. I believe you would flash that in the bootloader function of odin and that will relock your bootloader...now I am not 100% on this, hopefully others will confirm!
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
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So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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voodoomanx said:
At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand. I tried finding the original thread i read that on but came up short so if I'm wrong someone please correct me as I don't want to spread false information).
And honestly I'm sure almost every rom will be updated within 24 hours to reflect this if not sooner and development will be full steam ahead! Just beware of an OTA cause you know Verizon is not gonna be happy we broke out of their sphere of influence. You can prolly guarantee this "issue" will be towards the top of their to-do list.
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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That's not always the case anymore. I've noticed Rezound users have been forced OTA's (update installs without your explicit approval) which means we very well could see the same as well.
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asmallchild said:
Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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Phew good, I'm on Synergy, I think they've blocked OTAs
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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even if you unlock the bootloader and are worried about OTA's just install clockwork mod or team win. the custom recovery will stop the installation of the files. last line of defense as some phones will download and OTA and install it regardless of what you do (rezound, thunderbolt, etc)
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besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways.
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Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
llama555 said:
Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand.
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That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Off topic, sorry, but GO NINERS!!!
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lazarus2405 said:
Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Good to know thank you
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so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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Hulk0069 said:
so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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My best guess would be to find out what files are responsible for it and see if they are safe to remove via root explorer or something.
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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The OTA's also fail once they boot into recovery if the stock recovery isn't there. So it's not likely you'll get a forced OTA that works.
I haven't been prompted to update to VRBMF1 yet and haven't manually updated. I am still on VRBMB1. Ready to try Beans' one click root method but not sure whether to take the update first or not. Anyone have any suggestions?
Pretty sure it'll work, it doesn't really matter if you're going to end up flashing a custom rom; but it's all preference maybe if you want the new modems just take the update.
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Can you provide info if the one click method works for you. I am on VRBMF1. Never rooted before.
Just root. The newest update had signal and battery issues, along with many other issues. Verizon even pulled the OTA. Flashing a newer ROM will give you the newer features anyways, and it will be better.
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RBarnett09 said:
Just root. The newest update had signal and battery issues, along with many other issues. Verizon even pulled the OTA. Flashing a newer ROM will give you the newer features anyways, and it will be better.
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That's exactly what I did. Haven't flashed a custom ROM yet - still deciding which one to try first.
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Can you provide info if the one click method works for you. I am on VRBMF1. Never rooted before.
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It was incredibly easy. Only thing that tripped me up at first was that I didn't have the Samsung drivers installed on my PC. Since the thread didn't mention installing them I was assuming they weren't needed. You can get them here. Once I installed them and went through the steps in the thread, I was rooted and unlocked in a few seconds.
I highly recommend LiquidSmooth v2.7 if you'd like to get rid of TouchWiz.
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I used the one click from Bean Town, everything went alright . I was having issues with an app just now and rebooted the phone manually... now I got the Verizon detected unauthorized software crap. Be careful. I am also on MF1, now I got to try and figure out a way out.
um now what?
what if you're already rooted?
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what if you're already rooted?
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I too am rooted and I am seeking the answer to this question. Personally I just want the annoying window to stop attacking me. It's assaulting me all day, but it won't install the update. Has someone setup a download that I can manually force to my SG3? (I have been searching but I admit I get lost reading other posts and then I'm outta time)
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Just root. The newest update had signal and battery issues, along with many other issues. Verizon even pulled the OTA. Flashing a newer ROM will give you the newer features anyways, and it will be better.
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What method do you use to root? I'm on the VRBMF1 build already, on Verizon. I have the S3 toolkit from mskip, but it says it can't do anything until I get the bootloader unlocked. Now I can't find any method to unlock the bootloader for this build. I feel I'm just missing something stupid, but I can't find it :crying:
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What method do you use to root? I'm on the VRBMF1 build already, on Verizon. I have the S3 toolkit from mskip, but it says it can't do anything until I get the bootloader unlocked. Now I can't find any method to unlock the bootloader for this build. I feel I'm just missing something stupid, but I can't find it :crying:
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I used beans casual method. One click was done. Also on the MF1 update, it updated when I was leaving VZW store, 5 minutes after got home was running Revolt rom. Make sure to have correct divers and set screen on time to 5 minutes and to have java runtime environment installed on your computer.
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Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
scarlyowl said:
Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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Hi,
I just got my 4.3 update on the VZW SCH-I535 phone! Then I decided to try CM10.2 and didn't realize that my phone was re-locked because of the OTA update! Now my phone is stuck with the message "System software not authorized ..." To move past this issue, I have tried (and failed) the following:
- Tried to flash stock rom using ODIN (withSamsung-Updates.com-SCH-I535_VZW_1_20120705143513_fti2qg2lmf-stock-rom-4.0.3). It goes all the way through and I get a PASS! But after the phone reboots I get the "System error ... " again
- Tried to flash stock rom using ODIN with stock.vzw_root66.tar file and got the same result as above.
- I have also tried installing with Nand Erase All and Re-Partition checked, with PDA selected using the first rom, but I still get the same error
- I have read and tried some of the thread on this site with no luck either.
Any clue how I can get past this issue? Thanks for all your help in advance.
gs3-learning said:
Hi,
I just got my 4.3 update on the VZW SCH-I535 phone! Then I decided to try CM10.2 and didn't realize that my phone was re-locked because of the OTA update! Now my phone is stuck with the message "System software not authorized ..." To move past this issue, I have tried (and failed) the following:
- Tried to flash stock rom using ODIN (withSamsung-Updates.com-SCH-I535_VZW_1_20120705143513_fti2qg2lmf-stock-rom-4.0.3). It goes all the way through and I get a PASS! But after the phone reboots I get the "System error ... " again
- Tried to flash stock rom using ODIN with stock.vzw_root66.tar file and got the same result as above.
- I have also tried installing with Nand Erase All and Re-Partition checked, with PDA selected using the first rom, but I still get the same error
- I have read and tried some of the thread on this site with no luck either.
Any clue how I can get past this issue? Thanks for all your help in advance.
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Did you take the OTA?
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Did you take the OTA?
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Yup, I took the OTA. Didn't realize that it would un-root. I have tried various things at this point to get it back, but nothing has worked so far. Now when I try to use ODIN to do a CF-Auto-root, i see the "Secure Check Fail: recovery", at the Downloading screen. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
To my knowlage I am the only one hosting the tar file you need. Samsung updates doesn't have it because the file hasn't been officially released other than ota. If this dosnt work for you try flashing the pit file with the tar. It is one of the last replys in this thread. Ill be posting links in the op later http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
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To my knowlage I am the only one hosting the tar file you need. Samsung updates doesn't have it because the file hasn't been officially released other than ota. If this dosnt work for you try flashing the pit file with the tar. It is one of the last replys in this thread. Ill be posting links in the op later http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
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Downloading it now. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks
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Downloading it now. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks
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Worked! Thank you! I hope this post helps others in this situation as well. With 4.3 installed, does that mean I can't unlock the SIM at this point? I am trying to get ATT to work on this phone.
thanks once again!
gs3-learning said:
Worked! Thank you! I hope this post helps others in this situation as well. With 4.3 installed, does that mean I can't unlock the SIM at this point? I am trying to get ATT to work on this phone.
thanks once again!
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Happy to help! I think the sim comes unlocked since a few ota's ago. you need to put in a code or something along that nature.
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Happy to help! I think the sim comes unlocked since a few ota's ago. you need to put in a code or something along that nature.
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Turns out, after working with the ATT folks for a while, that the IMEI number that my phone has comes up incorrectly in their database. It shows up as a Samsung Tab. Checked with Samsung and my IMEI number is correct, so ATT will have to fix it on their end to get my phone to work correctly. I don't know why they make it so hard to migrate phones across service providers.
I've got my phone bugging to update but I haven't done it yet because I don't want to lose root. if I understand this right I can update and then re root with that download? or is there another method?
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homeskool said:
I've got my phone bugging to update but I haven't done it yet because I don't want to lose root. if I understand this right I can update and then re root with that download? or is there another method?
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From my understanding u can root it and safetrap (I read not that stable) but you CANNOT flash a custom recovery nor Rom it will brick your ffone I j
homeskool said:
I've got my phone bugging to update but I haven't done it yet because I don't want to lose root. if I understand this right I can update and then re root with that download? or is there another method?
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The only working root method is currently saferoot if you take the OTA. Personally I wouldn't take it. I'd suggest keeping your unlocked bootloader in tact and running a custom 4.3 rom.
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homeskool said:
I've got my phone bugging to update but I haven't done it yet because I don't want to lose root. if I understand this right I can update and then re root with that download? or is there another method?
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You van root 4.3 after ota or that link, but if I was you I would try to use the ota first. If it works you will keep all installed apps and settings (but it might be buggy). If you follow that link you will loose current setup, apps and it will format internal sd (but it will be clean and hopefully bug free ). Make sure you are home with access to a pc before you try ota. If you changed to much of the workings of your phone the ota may not work or could even brick you. In that case you will need to use that link.
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ShapesBlue said:
The only working root method is currently saferoot if you take the OTA. Personally I wouldn't take it. I'd suggest keeping your unlocked bootloader in tact and running a custom 4.3 rom.
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Honestly I'm glad I took the ota on accident. The past few weeks my phone has worked without a hitch. Some people just do not need custom ROMs and I think I am one of them. I'm pretty sure everyone who complains about how 4.3 is buggy and a battery hog just needs to use Odin to get a clean fresh start. I am disappointed that I can't install cyanogen when I turn this into my mp3 player after I get a new phone but its not like tw is bad. It just has a few annoying things that I can change with root access.
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I dnt hate tw ..I think is a good Rom in general .all that bloatware what got me to root and then lead to custom roms .like mention not everyone needs cuztom things.I do agree that a clean install of TW runs great .but I like options .and to each there own
ThePagel said:
You van root 4.3 after ota or that link, but if I was you I would try to use the ota first. If it works you will keep all installed apps and settings (but it might be buggy). If you follow that link you will loose current setup, apps and it will format internal sd (but it will be clean and hopefully bug free ). Make sure you are home with access to a pc before you try ota. If you changed to much of the workings of your phone the ota may not work or could even brick you. In that case you will need to use that link.
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Honestly I'm glad I took the ota on accident. The past few weeks my phone has worked without a hitch. Some people just do not need custom ROMs and I think I am one of them. I'm pretty sure everyone who complains about how 4.3 is buggy and a battery hog just needs to use Odin to get a clean fresh start. I am disappointed that I can't install cyanogen when I turn this into my mp3 player after I get a new phone but its not like tw is bad. It just has a few annoying things that I can change with root access.
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That's good. I've seen the OTA in action as my girl has it on her phone and she's complained about it every day since she took it. I've running wicked sensations 4.3 and it runs like a champ.
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ShapesBlue said:
That's good. I've seen the OTA in action as my girl has it on her phone and she's complained about it every day since she took it. I've running wicked sensations 4.3 and it runs like a champ.
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OK I just installed safestrap and I kid you not the theme of wicked sensation made me swap back to my stock slot immediately. I'll use it all day tomorrow and tell you what differences I notice. Right off the bat it just looks like a ROM made from a recovery backup and customized with xposed. I can't wait for beans to make a 4.3 rom.
ThePagel said:
OK I just installed safestrap and I kid you not the theme of wicked sensation made me swap back to my stock slot immediately. I'll use it all day tomorrow and tell you what differences I notice. Right off the bat it just looks like a ROM made from a recovery backup and customized with xposed. I can't wait for beans to make a 4.3 rom.
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Haha that's funny, better you than me try!!
ThePagel said:
OK I just installed safestrap and I kid you not the theme of wicked sensation made me swap back to my stock slot immediately. I'll use it all day tomorrow and tell you what differences I notice. Right off the bat it just looks like a ROM made from a recovery backup and customized with xposed. I can't wait for beans to make a 4.3 rom.
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Seriously? They put a ton of work into theme on this rom. I've seen 4.3 stock and I'm not impressed. It's boring and pretty basic. Wicked is an awesome rom. I've run just about all of them. Beans rom isn't bad at all but I seemed to have a ton of issues with it
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ShapesBlue said:
Seriously? They put a ton of work into theme on this rom. I've seen 4.3 stock and I'm not impressed. It's boring and pretty basic. Wicked is an awesome rom. I've run just about all of them. Beans rom isn't bad at all but I seemed to have a ton of issues with it
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I like it, but it certainly doesn't have quite the same cleanliness as a good AOSP theme. It's all personal preference.
At least we know safestrap is working consistently.
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For d2vzw SCH-I535 ONLY
This is the official tar ball for VRUDNE1. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE UNLESS YOU ARE 100% SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. Any locked bootloaders are not my fault.
THIS WILL LOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER FOREVER
4.4.2 VRUDNE1 full wipe tar download HERE
No Wipe HERE
4.4.2 Update Zip
For reasons that should be obvious I recommend not to update yet unless you really cant wait. This zip was ripped out of the ota download folder I have not applied it myself so use at your own risk.
There has been successful upgrades using this update zip.
I am assuming you must be on a untouched version of nc1 for this to work (no root) apply update zip in stock recovery.
Download the 4.4 update zip from HERE
techfreak243 said:
i played the stupid card and softbricked my S3. i was in a curious mood and wanted to go back to a fresh 4.3 to get to a fresh 4.4.2. is there anyway for me to unbrick it with or without losing my data (preferrably losing because i want a fresh start). Does anybody know when a tar will be ready or when the file will be available through the Verizon Repair Assistant?
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flash this via odin if you bricked your bootloader!
contain: tz.mbn sbl3.mbn sbl2.mbn rbm.mbn aboot.mbn
flash on VRUDNE1 kitkat tw only
Thanks @ThePagel! Can't wait for the Tar file
I'm on the newest clean Rom but badly want tw kit Kat. I don't care about losing the ability to flash aosp or flash kernels. So when the tar comes out I will be able to just load that into Odin and put on my phone?
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yonith said:
I'm on the newest clean Rom but badly want tw kit Kat. I don't care about losing the ability to flash aosp or flash kernels. So when the tar comes out I will be able to just load that into Odin and put on my phone?
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Yes sir
yonith said:
I'm on the newest clean Rom but badly want tw kit Kat. I don't care about losing the ability to flash aosp or flash kernels. So when the tar comes out I will be able to just load that into Odin and put on my phone?
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You really can't wait a few more days for a new CleanROM?
Are you really that desperate to permanently lock down your phone in such a way that only a hard-wired JTAG procedure can undo?
If you lock your bootloader, you are stuck with SafeStrap and needlessly wasting space on your phone to accommodate ROM slots.
LLStarks said:
You really can't wait a few more days for a new CleanROM?
Are you really that desperate to permanently lock down your phone in such a way that only a hard-wired JTAG procedure can undo?
If you lock your bootloader, you are stuck with SafeStrap and needlessly wasting space on your phone to accommodate ROM slots.
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Agreed.
It worked for me. Thank you
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I messed something up, now I can't odin back to 4.3 and all I get is the firmware upgrade encoundered an issue... when I try to odin back to 4.3 it fails.. oops.
reno218 said:
I messed something up, now I can't odin back to 4.3 and all I get is the firmware upgrade encoundered an issue... when I try to odin back to 4.3 it fails.. oops.
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Were you on KitKat? Cuz that's not possible to do.
LLStarks said:
You really can't wait a few more days for a new CleanROM?
Are you really that desperate to permanently lock down your phone in such a way that only a hard-wired JTAG procedure can undo?
If you lock your bootloader, you are stuck with SafeStrap and needlessly wasting space on your phone to accommodate ROM slots.
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My understanding is that this is going to be similar to the gs4 where there are frankenkernels and frankenroms hacked together to keep our bootloader unlocked. This isn't as reliable as the straight kernel. Correct me if I'm wrong that was just the impression I got.
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I have a locked boot loader, I took t the 4.3 ota. If I take this new ota is there a way to root once it updates?
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greatdaneduke said:
I have a locked boot loader, I took t the 4.3 ota. If I take this new ota is there a way to root once it updates?
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Yes - search for Towelroot in this forum, works great - and super easy.
yonith said:
My understanding is that this is going to be similar to the gs4 where there are frankenkernels and frankenroms hacked together to keep our bootloader unlocked. This isn't as reliable as the straight kernel. Correct me if I'm wrong that was just the impression I got.
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This is FUD. You've been misled. Custom roms do not touch unlocked bootloaders or require exotic engineering to keep things that way.
If you've unlocked your bootloader anytime within the past 2 years, you're set. You don't need to do anything. Just don't take the damn OTA. You should be on a custom rom or have already disabled such OTA functionality manually. If you take the OTA, you are screwed no matter what.
There's no frankenkernels or frankenroms. If you want to make a rom based on the update for normal folks who were smart enough to keep their bootloader unlocked, you simply remove the bootloader files altogether from the OTA tar/zip and begin customizing. You can use the stock kernel or compile your own using the source Samsung provided. For the poor souls who are locked down, they are stuck with the stock kernel and SafeStrap. Only thing they can modify is the system partitions they create.
There's nothing "franken" about either approach.
The only people with weird bootloader configurations are those who dipped in and out of OTA sequencing. Maybe their SBL or RPM/TZ partitions are stuck at LF2 or something just as ancient.
Ideally, every binary partition should be at firmware MF1 except for the aboot at LE6. My modem is at ML1 for the hell of it since flashing modems (even from the locked down 4.3 OTA) is safe.
tl;dr The unlocked rom scene is not impacted by Knox or anything OTAs lock down. It exists outside of the walled garden Verizon and Samsung are trying to create.
Well thanks for enlightening me! I will hold out until one of or beloved devs cook up a rom.
If I were everyone in this thread...
I would just chill out for a while...
scrosler said:
If I were everyone in this thread...
I would just chill out for a while...
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This man right here...listen to this man.
Woot woooooooo.
Chillin like it's my job.
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open1your1eyes0 said:
This man right here...listen to this man.
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Good to see your still floating around the s3 threads which device are you using as of late
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
Good to see your still floating around the s3 threads which device are you using as of late
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I'm currently on the S5 as my daily driver but I bought an S3 again a few months ago as a backup phone/desk clock if something happens to my daily. It's really nice to see how far this device progressed over this time (it beat a Nexus as far as OS updates...namely Galaxy Nexus) so I just had to get it again after hearing it would get KitKat. From 4.0.4 all the way to 4.4.2 now. That is a beautiful thing to experience. :good: