So if i unlock my bootloader will i be able to take the JB OTA when it arrives? If not how do i restore the locked bootloader? Also what if my phone has issues.. Would vzw notice i have this?
Sorry if these r dumb questions. I am not 100% on unlocking it.
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Adam outler specifically stated to not do any ota's after unlocking the bootloader...besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways. Im not 100% but Adam has a stock bootloader.tar posted in the op of his thread. I believe you would flash that in the bootloader function of odin and that will relock your bootloader...now I am not 100% on this, hopefully others will confirm!
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
manaox2 said:
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
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So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
llama555 said:
I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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voodoomanx said:
At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand. I tried finding the original thread i read that on but came up short so if I'm wrong someone please correct me as I don't want to spread false information).
And honestly I'm sure almost every rom will be updated within 24 hours to reflect this if not sooner and development will be full steam ahead! Just beware of an OTA cause you know Verizon is not gonna be happy we broke out of their sphere of influence. You can prolly guarantee this "issue" will be towards the top of their to-do list.
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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That's not always the case anymore. I've noticed Rezound users have been forced OTA's (update installs without your explicit approval) which means we very well could see the same as well.
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asmallchild said:
Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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Phew good, I'm on Synergy, I think they've blocked OTAs
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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even if you unlock the bootloader and are worried about OTA's just install clockwork mod or team win. the custom recovery will stop the installation of the files. last line of defense as some phones will download and OTA and install it regardless of what you do (rezound, thunderbolt, etc)
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besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways.
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Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
llama555 said:
Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand.
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That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Off topic, sorry, but GO NINERS!!!
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lazarus2405 said:
Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Good to know thank you
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so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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Hulk0069 said:
so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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My best guess would be to find out what files are responsible for it and see if they are safe to remove via root explorer or something.
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Sccrluk9 said:
If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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The OTA's also fail once they boot into recovery if the stock recovery isn't there. So it's not likely you'll get a forced OTA that works.
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Im using CMW Recovery 6.0.1.0, when I install a rom and reboot I get this message, "Rom may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?" I said yes... Does saying yes or no make a difference?
OCD madness.
I was assuming that I don't want the stock kernel with my cm10 so I said no.
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Can someone give me an in dept answer?
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Can someone give me an in dept answer?
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I would like to know also. I still have the stock rom, just rooted and was going to get ready for a new rom when I saw this.
dTardis said:
I would like to know also. I still have the stock rom, just rooted and was going to get ready for a new rom when I saw this.
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This is an outdated thread from before the bootloader was unlocked. Basically, disregard what they are implying because the way flashing roms used to work is "different" than how it is now. Our bootloader was unlocked on August 15th, since that date, when you flash a rom the kernel is flashed as well. It's my understanding that this was not the case when our bootloader was locked prior to August 15th, only a rom was flashed not a kernel. The kernel remained the same throughout all the roms, it was the touchwiz stock kernel. As I said already, this is no longer the case.
Ignore this thread and read DroidStyle's guide in the Development Section if you have any questions regarding the flashing roms process. Also, backup your IMEI.
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^what he said!
and to the op, Forever LS1
loveubuntu said:
I was assuming that I don't want the stock kernel with my cm10 so I said no.
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the recovery is not the kernel
say yes
The question has no relevance when running a custom rom. It's there for reverting back to stock on a stock rom/returning original recovery.
Saying yes or no has zero impact unless your on stock rom.
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If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
Download ez unlock from the market to lock and re-lock.
dunderball said:
If I'm not big on flashing roms at the moment, is there any good reason to unlock the bootloader? The only benefit I've read so far is that booting up is a bit faster.
Also, seeing as how rooting and unrooting is pretty easy without the use of odin/flashing, is there a way to re-lock the bootloader without odin (in case an OTA update comes along the way)?
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To answer your question, there is no reason unless you want to flash a ROM with a custom kernel (eg CM or AOKP).
You can backup your bootloader and restore using terminal / dd, and I think some of 'one click' tools also are doing this now sounds like.
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So bootloader needs to be unlock more for kernel, right?
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From here on out, i would think that 90% of kernel and rom development will be aimed towards unlocked bootloaders.
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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djisia87 said:
download app from market to unlock. One click. Easy!
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It even says "that was easy" lol
that was easy
If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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If for no other reason but to tell Verizon FU Icehole's.
Power to the People.:highfive:
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This.
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ExodusC said:
Any OTAs that come along are likely to break the insecure bootloader.
If you ever intend to use custom ROMs I would suggest not accepting any OTAs regardless.
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Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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pyrostic said:
Wouldn't a person be able to Odin the stock .tar that we have now to overwrite any **** Verizon tries to push on us?
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Where is this .tar located?
You have to unlock the bootloader to change boot images... right?
The Unified Kernel can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273437
I clicked the link but there isn't one for AT&T or the Canadian Variant. Did you need the complete boot for the Canadian variant as well? I could upload it for you.
I think faux needs the boot.img for ATT/Can
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The Unified Kernel can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273437
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I've uploaded it to my drive for you. Here is the SGH-I337M boot.img as request.
Really looking forward to a custom kernel!
Official ATT version is out. Unified OP updated with official ATT zip
Is there anyway to get the kernel to work without twrp/cwm?
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Official ATT version is out. Unified OP updated with official ATT zip
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Why no Canadian Version? It was originally in the post and now it's gone as unsupported?
stevehkim said:
Is there anyway to get the kernel to work without twrp/cwm?
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I tried flashing this kernel on my AT&T SGH-I337 in recovery mode and the signature check failed. This causes the phone to reboot with the stock kernel still but with a lot of fc's and at the Samsung startup settings that Bootloops.
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Underworld79 said:
I tried flashing this kernel on my AT&T SGH-I337 in recovery mode and the signature check failed. This causes the phone to reboot with the stock kernel still but with a lot of fc's and at the Samsung startup settings that Bootloops.
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No offense but are you an idiot? Our boot loader is still locked so this kernel is useless for us right now.
ATT users have to wait until Dan releases his exploit, then you can flash a custom recovery and kernel.
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stevehkim said:
Is there anyway to get the kernel to work without twrp/cwm?
ATT S4 Rooted. Beastin.
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No. Locked boot loader.
Thanks dude. Thats what I figured. I just thought maybe we could have replaced the boot.img in the stock odin packages. Still learning. Either way thanks for this Faux. Patiently awaiting....
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c0ldburn3r said:
No offense but are you an idiot? Our boot loader is still locked so this kernel is useless for us right now.
ATT users have to wait until Dan releases his exploit, then you can flash a custom recovery and kernel.
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No. Locked boot loader.
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Lol... Are you an idiot? I'm well within the 14 day return policy. If I bricked my phone, I'll simply return for a new one.
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Underworld79 said:
Lol... Are you an idiot? I'm well within the 14 day return policy. If I bricked my phone, I'll simply return for a new one.
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...You missed the point. :banghead: You need to start searching and reading before you post a question that's been addressed.
If you do those simple things you will discover how to fix your problem and learn about our locked boot loader.
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...You missed the point. :banghead: You need to start searching and reading before you post a question that's been addressed.
If you do those simple things you will discover how to fix your problem and learn about our locked boot loader.
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What question did I ask? Everything I said was a statement. The only question I asked was... are you an idiot? I am aware of AT&T locked bootloader. That's why I posted here so that other individuals wouldn't attempt to flash themselves and inherent the opposed risk.
What you are doing is trolling by saying nothing that is productive to development of this kernel and calling people idiots. I have no problem. I just flashed back to stock rom via Odin, OTA update, Root, freeze apks that prevent future updates, and de-odex my rom...
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What question did I ask? Everything I said was a statement. The only question I asked was... are you an idiot? I am aware of AT&T locked bootloader. That's why I posted here so that other individuals wouldn't attempt to flash themselves and inherent the opposed risk.
What you are doing is trolling by saying nothing that is productive to development of this kernel and calling people idiots. I have no problem. I just flashed back to stock rom via Odin, OTA update, Root, freeze apks that prevent future updates, and de-odex my rom...
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You've obviously proved my point.
Stop posting useless statements in this forum when we already know flashing a custom kernel on a locked boot loader doesn't work!
Canadian version ! :d
Since no one was willing to upload a modified ATT faux kernel that worked with Canadian versions I thought I would! enjoy! Runs beautifully. I just simply removed the getprop line!
Click here for link to Canadian S4 Faux kernel!
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Since no one was willing to upload a modified ATT faux kernel that worked with Canadian versions I thought I would! enjoy! Runs beautifully. I just simply removed the getprop line!
Click here for link to Canadian S4 Faux kernel!
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Thanks dude. Finally
Underworld79 said:
Lol... Are you an idiot? I'm well within the 14 day return policy. If I bricked my phone, I'll simply return for a new one.
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I wish companies would verify stupidity before accepting returns. People who break their phone and return it are why we get charged so much for these things. So thanks for costing us all money.
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I wish companies would verify stupidity before accepting returns. People who break their phone and return it are why we get charged so much for these things. So thanks for costing us all money.
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+1
_Dennis_ said:
I wish companies would verify stupidity before accepting returns. People who break their phone and return it are why we get charged so much for these things. So thanks for costing us all money.
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Actually I think attempting to flash a different kernel might have tripped his monotonic counter and with no way to fix it yet, when they receive and check his device for warranty they will see this and cancel the claim and most likely return the phone as is and make you return whatever device you swapped it for.
I saw a post from a very respected dev say the same thing about returning his phone and everyone was like "yeah you are the man, do it rah rah rah" and everyone is killing the guy here...hilarious really.
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I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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I have upgraded to the Verizon 4.3 release for the GS3 and have also rooted the phone using the safe root method. Now I am wondering if I will be able to flash a ROM since upgrading and will the ROM have the same move 2 sd card feature that the 4.3 OTA has... Thanks In advanceee:good:
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4.3 OTA is LOCKED down! If you attempt to flash a ROM or recovery, you WILL HARD BRICK your phone
Doubtful because it hasn't happened to the s4 people. I would say hope for safestrap.
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I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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jjosph said:
I took the ota. I'm only looking to flash update zips(apks), does this mean I can't even install a custom recovery?
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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That is correct, you cannot install a custom recovery on the 4.3 OTA.
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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If you flash an older stock ROM, will this also brick the phone?
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Yes, if you took the 4.3 OTA and try to flash an older stock build, you will brick your phone. As it stands right now, if you took the OTA you can root it, but you are still stuck on that stock ROM.
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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As of right now if you took the OTA update to Android 4.3 your hopes of doing anything custom other than rooting your phone are hopeless.
In order to flash a ROM such as Android 4.4.X aka KitKat you need a custom recovery manager. To be able to flash anything the first thing you need is an unlocked bootloader. The OTA update has locked the bootloader down so that you if you were to try and install CWM or TWRP recovery as soon as you boot into recovery mode you are going to get a Yellow Triangle that says "Verizon has detected unauthorized software on this phone, please turn off your phone and take it in to your nearest Verizon Store.
If you turn off your phone and power it back on you will keep getting that message...
The only way around it is to boot into Download Mode -> Vol Down + HOME for 2 Seconds then hit Power (if i remember correctly). After you boot into download mode you can then boot your phone back up regularly.
If you have made the mistake of trying to put a custom recovery on your phone you can put the stock recovery back on your SGS3 (stock recovery is better than no recovery) by downloading the recovery image and overwriting your custom recovery with the command "dd" in Android Terminal Emulator. For this to work you must be rooted.
Here is a link to the tutorial which shows you how to write the stock bootloader and stock recovery back to your Verizon (d2vzw) SGS3 in case you have made this mistake...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
In that thread pay close attention to the 2nd post as it shows you the commands to use to write your stock recovery or stock bootloader back to your phone.
I know it sucks that we can't put custom ROM's or a custom recovery (this hurts the most!) on our Verizon phone for now at least...
COME ON VERIZON EMPLOYEES! LEAK THE UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! WE WONT TELL!
Maybe we will get lucky and some international version will come out and we can use that...
I remember awhile back that ASUS locked their bootloader on their Transformer tablet and you could request it from ASUS and they made you fill out this form saying that you understood by unlocking your bootloader you could not make a claim for a warranty. Why can't Verizon do that!?
I pray someone works this out eventually...
"Hope for the best prepare for the worst" - ?
-droidshadow
ATGkompressor said:
What would happen if we managed to flash a stock ROM like 4.4.x? I've seen so much talk about going backwards, they've locked us out of going backwards so let's go forward...maybe.
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That would still require you to have a custom recovery. Also that would still most likely brick your phone cause the only 4.4 ROMS are AOSP based, meaning it installs a different kernel than the stock one. Thus when when the phone would boot up it would check the the kernels signature and would brick upon not finding one.
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Is there anyway you could post the link for the safe strap recovery option? I am rooted on 4.3 but I want a recovery that may work so that if this thing gets cracked be that much closer to freedom.
Verizon is doing us like Andy Dufrane...locks us down forcing us to tunnel a hole in the wall and crawl through 3 football fields sh!t to free!
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Safestrap is not available for the s3. It would have to be ported.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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ATGkompressor said:
So I guess all hopes of finding a way around this are hopeless...for now. If u remember, a few months ago, President Obama signed a bill for Verizon Wireless to monitor all cell phone activity without the consent of the user, in conjunction with the NSA. I suspect that this is the reason why only Verizon has opted to completely lock down the bootloader because it contains code embedded in the bootloader (or partitions pertaining to bootloaders, aboot, and such) that allow National Security Agencies to implement spyware and tracking or listening programs. This is a testament to the sub-communist movement that is slowly taking hold in this so-called "free" society that was brought forth by our forefathers.
But back on subject - I just upgraded from a HTC Thunderbolt to SGS3 because most development for the Thunderbolt was few and far between. Upon purchasing my shiny new device, this Abomination of Android that is 4.3 was already being OTA'd. Had I known then....man, had I known then. It's a sad time for superusers all-over Verizon's crummy wireless empire.
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You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
wenzer said:
You might still be in your window to return the device. Don't they give you like 30 days to try it out and if you don't like you can return for free and try another?
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Probably not, it's a 14 day return window now.
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They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
I've looking for one and I bricked my phone twice. It looks likes it's going to be a min before we see one.
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danielevon said:
They do have safestrap for i535 for people who have the 4.3 OTA update. I have been looking for a TouchWiz based 4.3 rom to flash in safestrap but have not been successfull. I would love to find one.
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There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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ATGkompressor said:
There are 3 or 4 - 4.3, Touchwiz ROMS. Old&Slow's stock, rooted ,deodexed; Wicked Sensations; Slapnuts; M.O.A.R (Mother of All Roms). If I missed any I'm sure someone can correct me.
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Cleanrom 8 and samstock.
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And most of them say specifically that they are for unlocked bootloaders or not compatible with safestrap. Is there some trick I need to know to flash these roms in safestrap on 4.3 with a locked bootloader?
So my last s3 stopped working and I got a new one sent via my extended warranty. Previously I had an unlocked bootloader and root running gummy 4.4 which was awesome! My new phone came stock with 4.3 touchwiz which I am reading might be bad news. So here are my questions:
1) Is there really no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
2) What are my alternatives to installing custom roms?
3) Is safestrap a stable/safe option even though its in beta?
4) Can safestrap be reversed if a method for unlocking the bootloader is revealed?
5) Where can I find a rooting tutorial for 4.3? Can I lose root easily/ corrupt my phone if a Samsung update is applied?
6) Should I wait for a downgrade option? Slash is it supposedly possible (twitter update)?
jl2222 said:
So my last s3 stopped working and I got a new one sent via my extended warranty. Previously I had an unlocked bootloader and root running gummy 4.4 which was awesome! My new phone came stock with 4.3 touchwiz which I am reading might be bad news. So here are my questions:
1) Is there really no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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Nope.
2) What are my alternatives to installing custom roms?
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As of this minute, one option: Saferoot then Safestrap.
3) Is safestrap a stable/safe option even though its in beta?
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Yup. Read the replies in Safestrap if you need reassurance.
4) Can safestrap be reversed if a method for unlocking the bootloader is revealed?
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Yup, you could even Odin flash VRUCML1 4.3 tar and be back to "normal" again. However, don't count on the 4.3 bootloader being unlocked. There's no guarantee anyone is even utilizing their time to find an exploit and its entirely possible no one is.
5) Where can I find a rooting tutorial for 4.3? Can I lose root easily/ corrupt my phone if a Samsung update is applied?
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Read me. Use Saferoot, then SafeStrap. Yes, much worse could happen in a future update as well.
6) Should I wait for a downgrade option? Slash is it supposedly possible (twitter update)?
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That's your call. It's possible, but whether it comes to fruition is entirely different.
Will xposed module work using safestrap safe ROM? Gotta get my greenify experimental features back! And keep chat!
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jl2222 said:
Will xposed module work using safestrap safe ROM? Gotta get my greenify experimental features back! And keep chat!
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They should
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SlimSnoopOS said:
They should
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Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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omair2005 said:
Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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I think flashing a custom kernel isn't suggested with SafeStrap. I don't know the specifics, maybe @BadUsername or someone else can expand on that? I thought I read that you are still running the stock kernel even if you flash a custom kernel when using SafeStrap. Someone was discussing this before but it was not explicitly proven they were in fact running the custom kernel.
omair2005 said:
Im in the same situation as OP.. Xposed works. I'm on alliance 23.
I was wondering can we flash custom kernels then flash the dependencies or are we stuck with the safestrap kernel?
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Good deal! Glad xposed works. How you liking alliance by the way? I'm torn between that and clean rom. I'm actually not the most familiar with TW roms currently. Before this replacement phone I was all ASOP.
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jl2222 said:
Good deal! Glad xposed works. How you liking alliance by the way? I'm torn between that and clean rom. I'm actually not the most familiar with TW roms currently. Before this replacement phone I was all ASOP.
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I've come to the conclusion I want to use my partitions to the full capacity so I'm sticking with stock rom + xposed for any modifications I need..
Yeah same here, I was AOSP for awhile soon as I discovered Quantum Kernels..
omair2005 said:
I've come to the conclusion I want to use my partitions to the full capacity so I'm sticking with stock rom + xposed for any modifications I need..
Yeah same here, I was AOSP for awhile soon as I discovered Quantum Kernels..
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Quantum Kernels huh. Not familiar with those kernels. Ill have to check them out. I would use the stock rom as well Im just worried about a random automatic update that would kill root and make my replacement phone even more useless than it already is without an unlocked bootloader. Do you know if there a way to disable the Samsung update center on the stock rom using root?
jl2222 said:
Quantum Kernels huh. Not familiar with those kernels. Ill have to check them out. I would use the stock rom as well Im just worried about a random automatic update that would kill root and make my replacement phone even more useless than it already is without an unlocked bootloader. Do you know if there a way to disable the Samsung update center on the stock rom using root?
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Use TiBu and freeze SDM, FWupgrade