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Broke my standard headset, what to buy?

Hey guys I've been searching around and haven't been able to find a lot of info.
I broke the headset that comes with the Desire. Now I want to buy a new headset that's cabled and have the same three buttons as the standard one.
Instead of just buying the stock one again, I hope to find something wtih better sound, does anyone know where to find that?
Regards!

Broke how? Do the controls still work?

accidentially pulled one of the earbuds of, so that I now only have one earbud.

If the controls still work you could solder a standard earphone plug insted of the earbuds, so you could connect any other headphones to it. I'm actually thinking of doing this so I can use the controls both with the headphone that in my car (line in). If you can wait I will do this to mine next week, so I could tell you how it goes.

balerio said:
If the controls still work you could solder a standard earphone plug insted of the earbuds, so you could connect any other headphones to it. I'm actually thinking of doing this so I can use the controls both with the headphone that in my car (line in). If you can wait I will do this to mine next week, so I could tell you how it goes.
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Do a google search for "diy-merge-original-headset-with-the-headphones-of-your-choice" to find a post on the modaco forums (I can't post the link). This should give you some tips - not great photos, but you can see the general idea. If you go this route it would be great if you could take some photos, especially on how the controls come apart.
Good luck! AD

not really good at solding so I'll rather buy new ones and further the cord out from the unit with the controls, so I don't think it's really difficult for me to do it.

I'm using a sony bluetooth headset with controls (MW600)
Volume sensor is fiddly (I rarely change vol so I dont mind) and it's nice and loud (louder than the stock headset). It pairs beautifully (real quick and easy) and the sound quality is good, I feel it could be slightly better though..
Receiving calls works as you would want, 1 press answer, mic works great, 1 press hang-up and autoswitch back to media.
Over all I'm happy with it

I'm starting to think the stock headset is a very bad design.
The control section with the buttons and mic should have tapered ends where the wires come out so it can't get caught on anything.
I have got mine caught on stuff twice, the second time the wire ripped the pad off the PCB which is no longer serviceable.
I've bought a new headset off ebay, this time Im going to get some black epoxy resin and make a tapered end so it cant get stuck on things.

AlienDonkey said:
Do a google search for "diy-merge-original-headset-with-the-headphones-of-your-choice" to find a post on the modaco forums (I can't post the link). This should give you some tips - not great photos, but you can see the general idea. If you go this route it would be great if you could take some photos, especially on how the controls come apart.
Good luck! AD
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Correct! That is where I got the idea. But insted of soldering the new headphones to the pcb of the controls I was thinking of cutting the wires of the earbuds and soldering a female connector instead. So I would not need to open the controls/cut my headphones jack and I could use any kind of headphones since swapping would be very easy. Also I would have external controls in my car using the line in.
Do you guys want / need pictures (even though it is only a simple connector)?

Joopvan, sent you a pm

i'm designing a new device

Hi,
I'm currently designing a completely new android device and would like some feedback on the hardware designs. (It is a phone with a 4.2" screen.)
I will build a working prototype from an old Zte blade and 3d printed bits at some point.
Update: the hardware i'm thinking of for a product final isn't like the blade's, it would be higher end.
Update 2: The apk thing was kind of a separate note, this phone would initially be AOSP i was just thinking of something separate I'm working on.
Please don't steal my idea, and credit this source if you build upon it.
Any way
please let me know what you think:
docx format concept attatched below

Not something u see everyday, will definitely take a look
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How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.

Joel5121 said:
How about stereo speakers? You should design it like this; one on the bottom left (speaker A) & one on top right (speaker B). In portrait, speaker A is the left channel, speaker B the right channel. This is ideal for listening to music. But when the user switch to landscape for example to watch movies, speaker B becomes the left channel, speaker A becomes the right channel. I know it's quite hard to imagine but it totally makes sense. Also, it distinguishes your device from others in the market.
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Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?

votum said:
Why though? Who listens to music from the speakers anyway?
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Not always, but I do.

About the speakers:
good idea but i don't know if it's plausible to have two sets at the top, what if the mic was two way? then it has two larger speakers on the front for stereo playback?
attached below:

Both speakers should be on the back, not in front. That would be ridiculous LOL. Also, how about a kickstand so you don't always have do hold it when watching movies.

You always have to have a speaker on the front, it's a phone. there wont be room to have it at the back at the top as well as the two cameras, proximity, ambient light sensor, and front calling speaker.
about the kickstand; I've already been thinking about that, but where would it go? I'm building up some models for one with a kick stand now.

I think you a referring to the speaker for phone call. I'm talking about speakers that you listen to when you play music. Almost all phones have it on the back, but only 1. My idea is to put 2 of them.
Edit: An example of phone with stereo speaker http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w595-pictures-2469.php

right new picture; this one incorporates the idea of a kickstand with two speakers, although they are on the sides they wrap around to the back.
My comment on the front speakers was an idea that you could use the calling speaker as a music/ other audio speaker, as well, for movie playback.

Great! Are you really building this phone for the market or just designing for fun?

Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc

Sound like a good ideai would love to see how this turns out
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TobiasV said:
Looks like a weird version of the Xperia Arc
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Also xperia s
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If you fancy some crit, (BTW I'm a 3D artist of 16 years in games/film as a TD so I often only see the bad points of design or function)
1. "Edge to Edge" screen. Although I've often thought about a phone with this, from a design standpoint it becomes a little impractical for a number of reasons.
a) The users hands activate the areas on the edge just by holding it.
b) The problem of a) becomes much greater when holding the phone and operating it with one hand (it near enough means you can't, because of your palm or lower finger/thumb)
c) Any case or protection that one would want for the phone has a problem of not being able to wrap at the sides to create better grip to the unit.
2. Curved screen. Most curved screens work from a convergence angle based of the "average" eye distance in use. I think the curves are just too much for a device of this size. I personally only see a need and or advantage for screens of 15" + to be curved.
3. The volume/power button arrangement seems inconsistant with the actual design flow of the phone. Me personally would have them following the profile of the phone (curved)
4. Front speaker position not being centered would mean the use of the phone as a phone would require you to hold it at a rather odd angle for optimal function. Thats why most ear speaker outs are centered with sensors / camera surrounding them.
5. Depth/feel I could imagine this phone if held would be almost as annoying to me as an iphone4, maybe more. The angled edges and depth mean it would feel more like a slab of metal than something I would be using every day.
Just a few thoughts for an "angry" Yorkshireman

Cup holder!
Lol, sorry couldn't resist.
Make it contoured for a natural feel.
Decent aspect ratio for gaming/movies
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Right, so I'm taking all of your ideas into play (sorry no cup holders though )
I'll post back in a bit with 3 new, different, concepts. If you could vote on them it will be most appreciated.
FYI: This is initially for fun but if there is enough interest I might try to release a couple of low end working phones to the market.

If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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eoghan2t7 said:
If you did release a version of your phone how much do you expect it to be to a consumer?
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Depending on what i did for the guts; somewhere between £150 and £250

Rule 1: no rectangular shape.
Rule 2: no rectangular home button.
Or be prepared to be sued.
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Something loose inside pixel's body?

Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?

joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Hi, I have found something curious. When I start shacking my phone I can hear noise coming from the top part of it, it sounds like a loose screw or something like that do you also have it? Is it a camera stabilization or my device is broken and I should replace it?
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Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.

I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough.
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I just now picked up my Nexus 5x and shook it, and it seems you are correct - it makes a rattling sound also (as if something is loose). It's not surprising though, considering how many times I've dropped/tossed it, both accidentally and purposefully. I wonder if it made that noise when I first got it...

Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol

giant22000 said:
Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Yes, replacement is same

I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.

cb474 said:
I noticed a loose sounding noise if I tap the top of the phone on the left or right edge or behind the earpiece. At first I also thought it might be the OIS. But then I notice I get a similar sound from the speaker at the bottom, if I tap the phone on the bottom edge.
Then I checked on my old Nexus 4, which does not have OIS, and it makes exactly the same type of slight rattling sound if I tap the phone on the top edge by the earpiece.
So I think there is some sort of moving part in cell phone speakers (after all something has to move to create sound waves) that rattles a little if you tap or shake the phone in the right way.
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Haptic feedback
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Tidbits said:
Haptic feedback.
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Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)

cb474 said:
Are you joking? Because that makes no sense. I hear this type of rattling coming from the top speaker. And I hear it separately coming from the bottom speaker. There is only one haptic feedback engine in the phone so it could not produce a rattling noise in two different places in the phone. (Also from Jerry Rig's teardown, we know the haptic feedback engine is in the bottom of the phone, so it can't explain a rattling noise coming from the top of the phone.)
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I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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Tidbits said:
I assumed it was that.
You said the top which could be the camera the. You mention a second one at the bottom and why u said haptic feedback. [emoji3]
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I didn't say haptic feedback, you said haptic feedback.
I also clearly said that it was the same type of noise coming from both the top and bottom of the phone, which means it would have to be the speakers, since that's the only thing there are two of, one in each of those positions. And I said that I had the same type of noise coming from the earpiece on my Nexus 4. So the whole point of my first post was that I was ruling out OIS, which others had suggested, and felt pretty confident the sound comes from the speakers. I wasn't looking for suggestions. I was explaining my reasoning for why it seems like it's the speakers that make the sound.

guysalami said:
Likely the camera OIS module, I find just about any phone makes some sort of loose item noise if you shake it hard enough. My Pixel 2 also has a rattle though it's pretty muted compared to other phones I've had.
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My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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Stop shaking your phone!
Seriously though, just the ois module. Your phone is fine. lol
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Why are you saying its fine when its not? lol... other phones with OIS don't make the noise.. Stop justifying for google's manufacturing defects.

LimitsX said:
My LG K4 2017 ($100 smart phone with headphone jack) phone doesn't. Galaxy S6 doesn't. Galaxy S8 doesn't. Lol, so no, not all phones do it. Only google specifically ones (that are defective) which make these noise lol.
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As I explain in my posts, I think the slight rattling noise actually comes from the speakers, not the OIS. I think the OIS guess is wrong. I've explain my reasons in more detail above.
However, in order to get the sound you have to tap the edge of the phone in just the right place and just the right way. It's easy to shake or tap the phone and not get the sound at all. So I'm pretty sure I could get this sound on all of the phones you mentioned. In fact, next time I'm in a carrier store I'll try the S8. I think it's just something speakers do. I've tried several different model phones and they all do it.

Camera mechanism very rattly, anyone else?

My camera is really rattly and doesnt secure in the closed position!
Its ****ing disgusting of a sound when I put in down on a table, is this normal?
Really kills ALL fun I can have with this device

Mine seems pretty OK. No rattling when I control the camera.

There might be some quality control issues. I've seen a few mention rattling but most say theirs is fine. So with that in mind it sounds like you risk having to RMA the device when you get it.

My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.

The same problem with my flipcam.

Mine works fine.

Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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I was thinking into a similar direction... Good to hear this works.

facepalm lol

Dasswable said:
My camera was rattling too if I did not use the Quick Control Button to retreat the camera regularily because the camera is hitting the case even when shaking it.
I fixed it by placing a strip of duct tape under the camera and now it is silent.
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Duct tape on a phone? 2019.?
No thanks

My camera is firm and doesnt rattle, it does make some noise when the camera moves but thats to be expected I think.

Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.

jaseman said:
Well, it seems as if it's going to be a crap shoot whether you get one that rattles or not? Too risky unless we get way more reviews saying that it doesn't rattle.
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Difficult to say with such a small sample size.
Could be 1%, 5%, 20%, 50% or 90% with issues. The quality control might get better or the mechanism might just have that bad yields. So right now we have to assume it's either a small number of devices or first batch problems. I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.

T I find it hard to believe they'd bring a device to market with glaring issues. You never know though.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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jaseman said:
Ummm, ever hear of the Galaxy fold???
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Yes and it isn't comparable.
This is a quality control issue from the factory. I haven't heard anyone say it started rattling later (nor does it seem there would be time to start breaking the device through regular use unless it's sensitive and starts rattling from dust and debris).
The Fold worked fine at the factory and testing in a controlled environment did not reveal the fragility of the design. Otherwise we may as well bring up Note 7 too. That's also a design flaw.
Since not all models rattle it isn't necessarily a design flaw but one of quality and yields. Of course Asus is welcome to make a statement on what causes the issue.

Mine also rattle when put down on table and same with just tapping the screen. Otherwise it is good. Weird that no review mentioned this, not even tech tablets. If the phone didn't cost 570 euro, but 250 euro I would not mind, but I'm going to return it, it is unacceptable for the price.

Mine doesn't rattle when closed, but also doesn't open fully. It sits at a slight angle when open, so I have to press "volume up" for a second to straighten it. As far as I can see there's no calibration tool for camera angle. This might help solve both problems.

Mine rattle to
the camera opens a little whenever I was fast walking with the phone in my pocket or when I wear lose pants but I fixed it by adding 2 strips of tape behind the camera :/
I found out that the rattle is coming from the hinge at the side where the volume buttons are

picked it up from table https://youtu.be/QcbjNwhLVIE ...
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To clarify - this is how it always is, but it happens - lets say once a day - camera just get _more_ loose by itself. I will create another video how it is all the time (it is still pretty bad in quiet environment) - but it will be harder to catch with one hand holding camera phone.

evlo said:
picked it up from table
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Can other users of this phone confirm if it is a faulty unit or it is "normal" behaviour? Camera module seems to be wonky and loose, not firmly closed/locked. No reviewers mention this problem.

Mine moves a little bit too.
And 2 strips of tape help. I'm fine with it.

What is it?

Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.

kxdaorbit said:
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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It's a spycam....no, just kidding, just kidding - it was reported to be a 3rd microphone for cutting out any background noise.

I've never seen one before - no one has - but I'm guessing it's a white hole.
A *white* hole?
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. A black hole sucks time and matter out of the Universe; a white hole returns it.
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Some say a mic and some say a small speaker, waiting on reviews now

kxdaorbit said:
Can anyone please tell me what that 2nd cutout on the top is, it's driving me crazy.
There were rumours that it's an 'IR' blaster, yet not a mention of it at the unpacked event and no subsequent 'hands on' videos have even mentioned it's existence.
Does it beam 'DeX' wirelessly to a TV/monitor, is it a secret weapon?
Please, someone, anyone, put me out of my misery.
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The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.

Charkatak said:
The bigger cutout on top is a speaker as well as at the bottom of the phone.
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Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.

kxdaorbit said:
Sorry, maybe my question wasn't as clear as it could have been.
I was questioning the cutout on top of the phone, next to the sim tray hole. Since found out that it's another microphone, used in the 'sound focus' (or zoom sound) feature.
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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras

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I understood you correctly. Next to the sim tray hole to me is the speaker. The device to my knowledge has stereo speakers, as S10, but since the earpiece cutout is so small, I don't think Samsung would make it a speaker as it is on S10.
One mic is on top, another one is at the bottom and another one(Sound focus mic?) is located next to the 3 camera lenses(on the edge of the camera housing/frame) - can't find that video that showed the location of the mic next to cameras
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Sorry dude, the video you're talking about doesn't exist, there's no mic next to or anywhere near the camera array.
The cutout in question is absolutely a mic, and the earpiece does indeed doubles as the secondary speaker.

Microphone
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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/

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try this ....
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-new-features/
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This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.

kxdaorbit said:
This is getting more confusing by the minute, even Sammobile seem confused, having updated their story on this twice already.
Some Youtube reviewers saying yes, others saying no, a lot of fake news floating around this feature.
Will just have to wait till I hold it in my own 2 (or is it 3?) hands.
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I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic

Charkatak said:
I was in Best Buy store and did try opening YouTube to hear the speakers. So the earpiece and the top hole are both speakers. Also on the white color(easier to spot), there is a small slit in the side of the 3 cameras frame(closed to the side where flash is) - I think it is the zoom mic
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You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.

kxdaorbit said:
You're right, there now seems to be a consensus amongst the early reviewers, and posts by 'XDA' members such as yourself, who've seen it in person.
The mic in the camera frame slit is such an elegant work of engineering, that I can't understand why 'Samsung' wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops, but yet it's nowhere mentioned in marketing or spec infographics.
I do wonder though whether it impacts (however slightly) on the waterproofing of the device, maybe the reason it didn't achieve the IP69 rating as earlier touted?
Apologies for my dismissal of your earlier post, you were right all along.
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I was curious too about the speaker placement and mic's location when Samsung unveiled devices. I wanted the top hole to be IR Blaster, but at least we get nicer sound. I doubt the earpiece slit would be enough to act as an upper speaker, but they Samsung came up with the idea of making additional hole on top Oh and I do remember some years ago when Nokia came out with zoom mic in their phone, the mics pointed towards the object, so that might explain why Samsung had to make a slit in the camera frame. Now that I have seen Note 10 in person, I am happy that I pre-ordered it. I don't think I would have done it if Samsung wouldn't offer $600 trade in for my S10e. I really don't like the idea of buying expensive phones, let alone replace them every year.

There's 3 microphones :
- top
- bottom
- in the bevel of the camera.