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Trinity/ P3600 Car kit

Anyone tried this yet?
http://www.xpda.de/shop/oxid.php/si...17.14987246/k4mobile-Handsfree-Kit-HTC-P3600/

Is that the same as those selling on ebay for only about 20US?

Rafiki said:
Anyone tried this yet?
http://www.xpda.de/shop/oxid.php/si...17.14987246/k4mobile-Handsfree-Kit-HTC-P3600/
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BIT EXPENSIVE

goodie said:
BIT EXPENSIVE
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It cheaper than a fine using a phone while driving ! so I have ordered one today!
Rafiki

I would not recommend buying a wired car holder altogether.
I used to use several Seidio holders and all of them had bad plug-in connections after some time (usually right after warranty is up).
I really like the Brodit car holders.

Have a look at this ... I have one, and it is excellent.
http://www.carcomm.nl/carcomm/webshop/index.cfm?page=productDetail&ModShopCatId=F611B46B-3048-737E-4E08AFECF77CC09D&ModShopProductId=F622E5AA-3048-737E-4E8CDDB605F89451
You can buy it from Expansys in your local store, but the link below is to the Australian version:
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=145626

I find it really hard to find a holder to suit these phones....
Seidio seem to have gone blackberry only these days although they still cater for older PDA's but to be honest they are over priced for what they are. And yes mine broke just after the warranty.... what a waste of £100 (G2500s converted to stereo output for MDA Compact). I'm thinking of using its case waith a 3 in 1 adapter as the Trin is the same size as teh compact.
The only alternative i have seen upto yet is the this mount (sometime refered as the TomTom Car Mount) http://pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=263
Has anyone purchased one of these ?? Does it have an audio out (stereo), MIC out ? How loud is the speaker ?
Cant seem to find any reviews on it either.....
Nogs

nogs said:
I find it really hard to find a holder to suit these phones....
Seidio seem to have gone blackberry only these days although they still cater for older PDA's but to be honest they are over priced for what they are. And yes mine broke just after the warranty.... what a waste of £100 (G2500s converted to stereo output for MDA Compact). I'm thinking of using its case waith a 3 in 1 adapter as the Trin is the same size as teh compact.
The only alternative i have seen upto yet is the this mount (sometime refered as the TomTom Car Mount) http://pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=263
Has anyone purchased one of these ?? Does it have an audio out (stereo), MIC out ? How loud is the speaker ?
Cant seem to find any reviews on it either.....
Nogs
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I have also ordered this from pdamods ( now I will have two - one for him one for her! )
I will let you know as soon as I recieve both versions!
Greetings
Rafiki

Rafiki said:
I have also ordered this from pdamods ( now I will have two - one for him one for her! )
I will let you know as soon as I recieve both versions!
Greetings
Rafiki
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That would be super Rafiki. If it hasnt got an audio out then it shouldn't be to hard to mod it.
Nogs

I recieved this one in the weekend and tested it.
http://pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=263
The sound is ok for navigation . A little on the low side.
As a carkit for the telephone...hopeless! THe other party hears an echo and the sound is too low . I tried everything but this cannot be solved. I also get a low level humming from the speaker!
So its back to the drawing board and wait for the other version that I ordered.

Has anyone tried this! I just ordered it this morning.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/item.aspx?itemid=852

Rafiki said:
I recieved this one in the weekend and tested it.
http://pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=263
The sound is ok for navigation . A little on the low side.
As a carkit for the telephone...hopeless! THe other party hears an echo and the sound is too low . I tried everything but this cannot be solved. I also get a low level humming from the speaker!
So its back to the drawing board and wait for the other version that I ordered.
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Cheers Rafiki,
Will be staying clear of this then.... Just curious if there was an audio out jack ?
Nogs

alnajmi said:
Has anyone tried this! I just ordered it this morning.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/item.aspx?itemid=852
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Hi Alnajmi,
Would you mind giving us a quick review once you have tested it ?
Wouldnt mind knowing if the device have a volume control, audio out and a mic in.
Nogs

nogs said:
Hi Alnajmi,
Would you mind giving us a quick review once you have tested it ?
Wouldnt mind knowing if the device have a volume control, audio out and a mic in.
Nogs
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Sure I will but only if I receive it before July 5th, casue after that I'll be away for the next 2 months.

Rafiki said:
I recieved this one in the weekend and tested it.
http://pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=263
The sound is ok for navigation . A little on the low side.
As a carkit for the telephone...hopeless! THe other party hears an echo and the sound is too low . I tried everything but this cannot be solved. I also get a low level humming from the speaker!
So its back to the drawing board and wait for the other version that I ordered.
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I modified one of these replacing the internal speaker with an external one (an old car stereo speaker) - it works very well as long as the speaker is kept well away from the mic and with careful control of the volume.

anyone tried this?
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=9054
I would like to get 1 to try but I can't seem to find 1 that delivers to Australia

I ended up getting a 3 in 1 adapter.
I use the standard Holder that came with the Orange M700.
Connect the 3 in 1 which in turn has:
1: the power to the cigarette socket connected.
2: Tape adapter connected to the 3.5" Jack.
3: HTC earphones connected to the HTS mini USB with the earpeice and cables snipped at the mic.
The mic is then routed through the dash to where ever you need. I have mine in the cockpit display area.
If you dont connect the HTC mic then you wont be heard.
All i do when a call comes through is press the casette button on the stereo (VW Gamma) and answer the call either with the phone or the mic adapter.
Sometimes have to ajust the volume on the stereo as having the stereo too loud will give the caller an echo but you are able to have it loud enough to hear well.
With the 3 in 1 attached the phone still rings on the external speaker aswell as though the adapter.
Would be nice to use some expoy resin to atach the adapter to the holder in some way saving you connecting the plug manually every time you slot the trin in. Might give this a go some time.
Oh and i also use SPB phone suite so i can set a profile for the car which consists of Loud ring + vibrate but a low speaker volume. Having full volume through a tape adapter seems to give a crackly effect.
Nogs

[Fix] Raphael speaker volume hard mod (+pics&vids)

Hi, i've seen a lot of request for a raphael speaker hardmod and also tried to find one myself, well.. As you thought, no luck.
So I decided to make one of my own, and yes, it works!
So here's what i've done (every piece makes it a bit better, so, choose the ones you wish to do, or do all of them like i did!):
1. Cut the back cover to look similiar to the original desing from htc (Picture 1)
Just throw the first metal grill (the one on the back cover) to garbage, that's what i did As the speaker has a cloth on it, you don't need those grills.
2. Make some room for sound to echo inside the back cover (Picture 2)
I did 1. and 2. with normal household scissors.
3. Prevent the sound from the front of the speaker going to the back of the speaker and thus undoing some sound. Try to insulate the back a bit (Picture 3) I did it with 2-sided 1mm thick tape and left the protecting layer on the tape (green) so it doesn't stick to the back cover.
4. Open up the phone (Help to disassembly here), lift the speaker and the.. uh.. thing on top of the speaker off from the back housing carefully (2-sided tape keeping it in place) so you wont break it. Time to throw away the second metallic speaker grill! Use scissors to carve the speaker hole bigger (see speaker in picture 3), use the tape that kept the speaker in it's place as a guide to how big to carve the hole, but don't cut any tape off, the hole becomes too big if you do that!
Video 1 : Results of the mod, you should hear the difference clearly! Too bad i didn't have a video of an original Raphael, but i think you do have one there as you're reading this.
Video 2 : Comparing the results with and without the back cover. This shows how big difference does the "sound echoing space" inside the back cover (Whatever) do!
And last side note before you begin, i will not take responsibility of ANY damage etc you manage to do to your precious phone. I've broken one already, did the mistake to grab the speaker wires and the speaker stopped working as the wires cut off.
Also, be VERY careful with this mod, you're working with the interior of the phone! Please don't do this if you don't have any experience disassembling/reassembling mobile phones.
Hope this helps you as much as it did me! It actually sound better live than on the vid, too bad my camcorder saves the vid to some ****ty format when recording to SD.
(Did i rickroll you btw? )

My apologies to the OP, I inadvertently merged this thread with my Q&A's thread. Enjoy this speaker fix.

is it just me or am i not hearing any sounds at all in those videos? (unless it uses a special type of codec..)
id love to hear the difference

Is the speaker volume really to quiet to justify a hardCORE mod that could ruin your phone?

Rottis said:
Hi, i've seen a lot of request for a raphael speaker hardmod and also tried to find one myself, well.. As you thought, no luck.
......format when recording to SD.
(Did i rickroll you btw? )
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GR8 work!
it's nice to see you can fix the very low system volume.
I was especially amazed from the echo box effect on the rear housing.
thanks!

ndda said:
Is the speaker volume really to quiet to justify a hardCORE mod that could ruin your phone?
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Initially, I was not going to reply to this, but it seems to me that you may be in the process of buying a Fuze and this may be very important for you to know.
No, the system volume is not that low, and frankly speaking, it is an issue which exists in some phones, not all. And, if it's possible for you to take a look at the phone at an AT&T store, do so, and decide for yourself (take a look at more than one Fuze).
@Rottis: Would you disagree that the low volume problem does not exist on all phones?

incisivekeith said:
Initially, I was not going to reply to this, but it seems to me that you may be in the process of buying a Fuze and this may be very important for you to know.
No, the system volume is not that low, and frankly speaking, it is an issue which exists in some phones, not all. And, if it's possible for you to take a look at the phone at an AT&T store, do so, and decide for yourself (take a look at more than one Fuze).
@Rottis: Would you disagree that the low volume problem does not exist on all phones?
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I didn't know that the volume problem exists on some phones. I own a HTC Touch Pro by Vodafone with no issues related to the volume (other annoying issues though).
I thought that the phones should be technically similar only with different brandings.
Do they use different hardware?

incisivekeith said:
Initially, I was not going to reply to this, but it seems to me that you may be in the process of buying a Fuze and this may be very important for you to know.
No, the system volume is not that low, and frankly speaking, it is an issue which exists in some phones, not all. And, if it's possible for you to take a look at the phone at an AT&T store, do so, and decide for yourself (take a look at more than one Fuze).
@Rottis: Would you disagree that the low volume problem does not exist on all phones?
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No, not all phones have the problem. I had an Sony Ericsson P1i before this raphael, and its speaker was truely amazing! And you could make it even better with a softmod.
That's the main reason i did this mod, as I have gotten used to a good quality speaker.
@Giannis86: try to install FFDSHOW (google for it) and it should work. Do not use Windows Media Player though. Sorry, i don't know the codec it uses for sound, but it should be some popular one, i didn't have to install any codecs for it (Using ubuntu btw).
@ndda: Yes it is, have you ever heard it? Or if you have, have you ever compared it to, for example the P1i?
If you ask me, the mod was worth it!

@ndda: Sorry, i missed a part in your message, yeah, i think they DO use the same hardware, it wouldn't make any sense if they didn't.
Well, the sprint version is different, but that does make sense.

I've done something similar to this with my old Dell Axim x5 to fix a touch-screen issue, but I did this knowing my Axim was worth only $50. I think it would have been more helpful if you showed a picture of the speaker wire and the connector, because I had to deal with that with my Dell and it wasn't as delicate as you describe the one on the Raphael.

Here's some pics of the speaker, it's wire and connector as requested.
The pics I took from the Raphael service manual, sorry for low quality.
Pic 1 (MB Connector)
Pic 2 (Speaker connected)
Pic 3 (Speaker + wire)

Btw, as said here earlier, the service manual can be easily found from the internet

None of your links go through any more... could you post new links for the mod pics & vids please?

gdbnet said:
None of your links go through any more... could you post new links for the mod pics & vids please?
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That must have been a temporary problem, as they all work perfectly fine at the moment. Please try again

[Q] Headphone Jack is incredibly sensitive to movement, just mine?

So I use the FM tuner... a lot. Like 5 days a week 4 - 7 hrs a day and then some on the weekends whenever I'm working in the garage or out hiking around. As such I find it is incredibly hard to find headphones that work with our phone. Sure any set of 3.5mm jacks will work but it doesn't take much to disconnect the FM Tuner and depending on what FM Tuner app you're using really changes what results of that jostling. A lot of headphones, especially the straight jack style are nearly incompatible. Just walking is enough to create the disconnect. It's almost like I can't get the plug in all the way but the thing is bottomed out when I look at it. Fixing it usually involves a short unplug and reinsert then waiting for the FM Tuner app to reactivate. However depending on the headphones being used this could work for 5min or 5s (and lately it seems to be the latter more and more often). I do have much greater success when using 90 degree plugs, although lately even with that I've been using a rubber band to sure that the plug isn't being tugged and disconnecting.
So I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar issues, I kind of wonder if maybe I got some lint in there or something but I use an otterbox with the nice silicon plugs that covers the jack up when not in use so that seems like a stretch.
Dogan
I did search!

I meant reply but oops you get a thanks! Bonus!
I use an FM tuner (both from Sense ROMs and CM7) and have not had the issues you've described. I don't use it nearly as frequently as yourself though as it sounds progressive it's likely not a manufacturer defect. I'd vote something wrong with the jack whether blockage or HW wearing out.
Try cleaning it.
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Sonkway said:
I meant reply but oops you get a thanks! Bonus!
I use an FM tuner (both from Sense ROMs and CM7) and have not had the issues you've described. I don't use it nearly as frequently as yourself though as it sounds progressive it's likely not a manufacturer defect. I'd vote something wrong with the jack whether blockage or HW wearing out.
Try cleaning it.
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Use a q-tip and rubbing alcohol of you are gonna clean it. I've never had those issues either. I use mine every day, mine is a little sensitive, a small tug will stop the music but not near as bad as you are experiencing.

I had this same issue on a friends Shift. After a lot of trial and error, we figured out that it was the Tip of the Headphone Jack. It was too long in some cases. So we started to compare a bunch of them. What we found was really weird, but interesting. It seems there is no continuity between Headphone Manufacturers as to how long the Tip of the Jack is. Some were as much as an 1/8" longer. Which is an issue because the jack never seats. So it will pop out at odd times. Basically what we did to solve the issue in his case was find one that worked, and seated well in the socket. Then we measured it, and filed down one of the ones that didn't work correctly. As soon as we did that it was all good. But beware some of the cheaper ones also distorted the sound after we did that. In a few cases we were able to solve that by smoothing the end with progressively finer sand paper. But it was a lot of work. Much easier to just buy the correct size. Just wanted to share a bit of info. Hope that helps .

I have had a problem like this in the past too. For me it was the brand of headphone jack that I was using. I found that some plugs were not going in far enough and contact was not being maintained. Also, make sure your case, if you have one on, is not preventing the plug from inserting all the way.

Prboy is right on. I have also had to file down some of my headphones. Careful not to get em too short though if you do.

Still haven't gotten around to trying any of these suggestions. Working for a brown clad shipping company gets kinda hectic in December.
Dogan
People and der boxes.

WIP Modding the mod. JBL speaker mod thread

Figured why not since it has been asked. Here are some images before i start work.
Disassembly requires removal of the back sticker. Its very thick held on by some pretty strong adhesive. It will come off one time and its not going to be able to be reused. I am working on a file for those with die cutters or a cricut like my self to remake a new rear sticker.
Back looks very promising. Test points and lots of them. And look at that. We have GND, outs for both AMP's AUDIO in and all that good stuff as well as full points for the ARM micro in it.
Mods. 3.5mm in and 3.5mm out. So it can be stand alone or you can make use of the mods amp and what not for some better audio. Micro switch to set it from the mods speakers, line in and line out.
Note.
Speakers are set up so they are sealed. You do not want to mod this area. JBL did all the math for this and you will alter the sound. Good news is there is a fair amount of room in the bottom of the unit. Also the kick stand can be easily replaced as well as the usb type c. Very well engineered unit. And no you can not add a larger battery. Thats the biggest that will fit.
This will not be a find the test point and solder a wire. It just will not work with how its layed out. It will all be done from the underside but sould be pretty easy. Hell you can relocate the type c under the kickstrand if you are skilled.

Awesome initiative. Keep it going!

Yeah, keep us posted for sure!
What are your goals/objectives for the mods? I'm very curious to see what can be done myself.

Interesting... I may open mine and turn it into a boom box.

I'll be working on this more this weekend. Did some measurements with the test points and got a sloppy and quick 3.5mm on it that worked. Now to start tracing the traces and planing it out.

bignazpwns said:
I'll be working on this more this weekend. Did some measurements with the test points and got a sloppy and quick 3.5mm on it that worked. Now to start tracing the traces and planing it out.
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Any updates? I haven't had time to mess with mine at all.

bignazpwns said:
Figured why not since it has been asked. Here are some images before i start work.
Disassembly requires removal of the back sticker. Its very thick held on by some pretty strong adhesive. It will come off one time and its not going to be able to be reused. I am working on a file for those with die cutters or a cricut like my self to remake a new rear sticker.
Back looks very promising. Test points and lots of them. And look at that. We have GND, outs for both AMP's AUDIO in and all that good stuff as well as full points for the ARM micro in it.
Mods. 3.5mm in and 3.5mm out. So it can be stand alone or you can make use of the mods amp and what not for some better audio. Micro switch to set it from the mods speakers, line in and line out.
Note.
Speakers are set up so they are sealed. You do not want to mod this area. JBL did all the math for this and you will alter the sound. Good news is there is a fair amount of room in the bottom of the unit. Also the kick stand can be easily replaced as well as the usb type c. Very well engineered unit. And no you can not add a larger battery. Thats the biggest that will fit.
This will not be a find the test point and solder a wire. It just will not work with how its layed out. It will all be done from the underside but sould be pretty easy. Hell you can relocate the type c under the kickstrand if you are skilled.
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Hello,
I'm currently trying to mod my JBL soundboost 2 to add a jack input because my custom rom doesn't support audio routing for moto mods, but I can't find where to make a connection to the amplifier input. I found something to make a connection at amplifier output, but if I use this the sound will be very low,like in headphones. that's why I'm searching for the amplifier input.
I know it was long ago, but I just found your work on xda and I would like to know if you remember where the amplifier input is located. Thanks !
If you can't or don't remember don't worry

Hello, how are you? I hope you have had an exit, for weeks I have been measuring in free time to try to add a 3.5 mm jack or a bluetooth module, but I can not achieve it since it has an i2c and an i2s bus and I do not know how to connect it , do you have any idea how? Thanks a lot

Microphone not working after repair

I've had my Nexus 5 for over 3 years now and it has seen countless ROMs, Kernels, rooting, all that kind of stuff. I also bought it in white and decided after some time that I want a black one so I bought a frame and a back panel and moved everything over to the new assembly. Shortly, it has seen a lot of mods.
My father used it for some time and one day he droped it and the microphone didn't work anymore in calls.
The problem was simple: in calls or while recording audio on whatsapp and such, the mic didnt work. While playing back the recording, there was a slight noise, just as you would keep the record button pushed but not talk and let it record only background noise. I can't remember, though, if while in call and on speaker the mic worked.
I bought a used flex cable with mic, charging port and everything on it (of which I was told was new), switched the old one with it and while playing back the recorded audio you can hear an awful distortion with slight oscilations as where the words should fit in.
However, the other person can hear me while in call and on speaker, but the sound is very, very bad.
My guess is that the mic on the flex cable that I bought was broken as well.
I thought of going ahead an buying another flex from a more trusted seller, but I'd like to get some advice firstly.
I tried anything that could be done with the software, this clearly is a hardware problem. What do you think I should check? What could be broken besides what i already know?
Thank you and have a lovely day!

I don't know if this will help but this guy seems to have a similar problem you can try his solution.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....nexus-5-microphone-speakerphone-t3043151/amp/
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Hey!
Audio rec and calls use different microphones, however, I believe your problems are due to the connector slot on the PCB itself not due to flex cables. Just visually inspect your flex cables, do you see any strong fold lines or torn sections? If not it is quite unlikely.
Regarding the connector slot, find some repairmen who is able with a heat gun and flux, who can lift things from a pcb without damaging stuff. They can either reposition it or replace it.
Best of luck and I completely share your pain.
andreizet96 said:
I've had my Nexus 5 for over 3 years now and it has seen countless ROMs, Kernels, rooting, all that kind of stuff. I also bought it in white and decided after some time that I want a black one so I bought a frame and a back panel and moved everything over to the new assembly. Shortly, it has seen a lot of mods.
My father used it for some time and one day he droped it and the microphone didn't work anymore in calls.
The problem was simple: in calls or while recording audio on whatsapp and such, the mic didnt work. While playing back the recording, there was a slight noise, just as you would keep the record button pushed but not talk and let it record only background noise. I can't remember, though, if while in call and on speaker the mic worked.
I bought a used flex cable with mic, charging port and everything on it (of which I was told was new), switched the old one with it and while playing back the recorded audio you can hear an awful distortion with slight oscilations as where the words should fit in.
However, the other person can hear me while in call and on speaker, but the sound is very, very bad.
My guess is that the mic on the flex cable that I bought was broken as well.
I thought of going ahead an buying another flex from a more trusted seller, but I'd like to get some advice firstly.
I tried anything that could be done with the software, this clearly is a hardware problem. What do you think I should check? What could be broken besides what i already know?
Thank you and have a lovely day!
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keoxkeox said:
Hey!
Audio rec and calls use different microphones, however, I believe your problems are due to the connector slot on the PCB itself not due to flex cables. Just visually inspect your flex cables, do you see any strong fold lines or torn sections? If not it is quite unlikely.
Regarding the connector slot, find some repairmen who is able with a heat gun and flux, who can lift things from a pcb without damaging stuff. They can either reposition it or replace it.
Best of luck and I completely share your pain.
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Thank you for your answer. I know I'm replying after almost one year, but I have given up fixing the old Nexus. Maybe I will try opening it up again and checking what you said, but I don't think it is worth it anymore. I still power it up from time to time, just for the old days. Heh. ?