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someone selling xda-developers free software @ handango!!!!!!

Hi all,
i was googling for tweakui and came a result from handango.com => http://www.handango.com/SoftwareCat...Id=2&N=96806+4294910762&showBreadCrumbs=false
Check this guy is selling the tools he got free here at xda-devs.
the people who made the soft should do something about it...

I've just written to Handango. Please write to them to and get this thief off their books.
I have noticed that your vendor T.N Vietaus Trade (Australia) is selling a number of illegal (ie pirated or stolen IP) products, including Microsoft ROMs for Windows Mobile phones.
Also, he is reselling free products written by members of the xda developers forum at a significant mark up, free software for example being sold for $49.99.
Please ask this vendor to remove this software, or remove it for him.
Kind regards,
vijay555 (moderator at xda-developers.com)
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What a ****en Lame ass *****. THat is just the lowest you can go to, selling stuff that is offered to us here for free. **** him, ive written to them also to get this ***** from selling stuff on there. Good eye and thanks for making everyone aware of this.

I've sent handago an email as well. Keep the emails going.

what is the email?
Found the HQ phone number, will try to call (cant call anymore sorry) but will need more info on this like what app and other stuff that you can give
305 NE Loop 820
Suite 600
Hurst, Texas 76053
Corporate Office: 817-280-0129
Fax: 817-280-9628

He has ebooks in http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=1129&av=14-275257
And same app's come up in the Microsoft handango page that is linked to the Microsoft Windows Mobile Product page Site http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformTopSoftware.jsp?siteId=75&platformId=2&title=T.N+Vietaus+Trade+(Australia)&authorId=1811375

Mod needed
Can a mod post this in other forums so that everyone that has made a app can check if their app is in the selling list

Email of the supposed developer tnvietaus AT gmail dot com
And if im doing something wrong in giving this out, this info is on the web

This is insane.

haha I just left HORRIBLE reviews warning people on all of the links you just provided Mike.. lol.
I also emailed HIM... and Handango.

no, I just let them know that this stuff was available for free ...
The thing that IRKS me is he doesnt explain that there is MORE to just downloading and running the update to these.. so alot of people are probably ruining their devices.

FYI, this is one instance where the DMCA can be used to your benefit (if you are one of the software authors).
Do NOT write to Handango, et al, complaining that someone is selling free software.
Do write to the resellers and state, factually, that this person is selling software that *you* wrote without your permission or authorization. Also state, very factually, that you want the software pulled and any monies charged for the software to either be refunded to the purchasers or forwarded to you.
What would also help out is if all the software authors were to allow one person (perhaps vijay would be a good choice as he is both a mod and a software author) to act on their behalf so there is a single point of contact for XDA.

Tell me the address of Handago (and Microsoft, If I have read and understand well) and I also send an email.
Just a thought: many here (maybe me too?) searchin' and using no purchased software, and therefore one of us (or one of those having this "habit", if you like more saying so) has found not violating any legal or moral law. World goes around...
Gubbài.

He is selling over 90 titles, and they are ALL available here for free just about.. he is selling the dang HTC X-button for 24 dollars! lol.

derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
V

Understanding doesn't mean accepting
vijay555 said:
derma, I think everyone here is realistic about software availability and software use... read around for my personal views on warez etc.
The board however has a strict policy on banning for distributing warez.
But, it takes some particularly spiteful cojones to steal someone else's work and then put your name on it and sell it. And then selling at an absurd markup... come on. There's reasonable cheekiness, but that's just taking the micky.
V
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Just to explain my position about this.
As I wrote on the title of this post, I figure out what it can be the reasoning of this person but meanwhile I absolutely don't accept what he did (or it's better saying "what he didn't do" 'cos what he's selling it's not stuff of his own).
My thought doesn't want to be a provocation, at least not a gratuitous provocation, but a simple-soft thinking about a hard problem: copy-right (and use-wrong).
Obviously this is a real theft, more odious than that "normally" made to the detriment of that author of the software who sell his creation having the conceptual rights to do that. In this case we can see instead a double somersault: he sell something not of his own that originally is (was) free.
Hope being plain.
PS: "cojones"?! Maravilloso! ¡Hasta la revolución, siempre!
Gubbài.

It isn't just the markup, its the flagrant lack of informing people of the consequences of attempting to use those warez without having ample experience with their device. He just says 'For expert. Use at your own risk' he doesn't say .. 'If you don't know what you are doing your phone is dead.. d .. e .. a .. d' .. I feel bad for the people who have purchased these and tried to run them not knowing about unlocking and what not.. it's a shame

OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881

Where can i find the tweakUI here?

hanmin said:
OMG, another one.
http://shop.my-symbian.com/Platform...0&productType=2&platformId=2&productId=208881
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Review added saying it's free here.

Open Android Alliance has moved

OAA has been having some problems this week.
Right now I realize that I have been deleted from my own site, which I spent hours working on and getting to look nice.
Basically, the day I went to register the domain, a user on XDA by the name of 'akapoor' hijacked the domain right before I got it (due to my webhost delaying registration). I messaged him about it and was quite mad, but we worked together to get a site up.
He provided the domain and hosting, which I was kind of weary of but we went with it:
akapoor said:
evilpig said:
akapoor said:
evilpig said:
Hey man, I was just reading the thread and I'm curious if you somehow snatched the domain before my webhost did.
If so just let me know I can give you the nameservers to connect it to the site. http://android.teamriot.net
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Yeah man, not sure how it happened. Because when I saw your post on XDA saying that you registered it, i had JUST hit the submit button on Godaddy for the domain.
It was taking a while (4-5 minutes) but then it finally came through.
That's very weird though, I'll admit
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Hmm well would you be able to point it to my nameservers once the domain finalizes? That would work great
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I think I'll stick with my current host for now - but if anything goes awry, you'll be the first in my mind to come to.
Btw : What's your Gtalk. I'll hit you up and we can collaborate on this.
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He gave me admin access and I went straight to work. Now go to log in today and see my account is gone, all my posts are deleted. And threads thanking ME have been renamed to akapoor.
Also the news on the front page is changed to his name and I have been locked out of my own site.
This makes me angry, and would like help from you guys to do something about it. Even though the project is slow right now, the fact that someone would do this is evil.
I contacted him and he said it was someone else blah blah blah. Yea a hacker will hack into the site and delete my accounts, and rename everything to you. He got me admin panel back, so I went and backed it all up and deleted it from his servers. And then I moved it back to mine. I don't trust this asshole.
Also I need someone to help manage the project, the person who originally started the project just disappeared, and I am just a webdev.
The project is up @ http://android.teamriot.net (I gotta fix the look of the forums later on in the week.)

that is some shady stuff right now. what's up with xda and all this shaddy stuff going on lately. anyways, glad u got it back up and running.

I dealt with this in the past, the forum I founded a few years back had a very slow start, it was just my playground really to post up project i've been working on while also be able to discuss things with users, didnt want a blog.anyway, a started a project that was unique in my field, only other person doing it was charging insane pricing to a teen crowd, I spent 6 months reversing a certain phones firmware and writing code for said project and after it was done was contacted by someone to team up....long story short things were going great until one morning I was locked out of my own system(I paid hosting, owned/ceated domain, did all the behind the scene projects and other guy handled the public forums). we got into vicious hacking wars lasting a few days while arguing with the hosting company back and forth over who actually owned the site. host locked both out until I proved I owned everything as well as paid the bills, all proven with receipts, emails, etc. I did eventually get back control and still have the site but its been a ghostown ever since. I only keep it up for the same purposes it was for originally....my playground. guy was trying to turn this into a profitable business but thats not why I do the things I do online., I do this stuff because I enjoy it.
If this is whats going on with you and this guy pulled a similar stunt I would walk away and never return. if you owned the domain, as well as legal rights to the database fight it, otherwise theirs going to be 2 sites with the same usersbase only 1 will be larger in the end...one will die. I know the situatation as to why It was started and honestly dont see a real need for it. it would be nice to replace all the closed portions but continuing the project would only come back later when HTC decides to crack down on drivers which unless you guys have the datasheets and skill/time to rewrite will take longer than its worth, which will need to be redone as new models come out. just gottta decide for yourself if its worth continuing with it.
Good luck, ****ty situation I know.

BinaryDroid said:
I dealt with this in the past, the forum I founded a few years back had a very slow start, it was just my playground really to post up project i've been working on while also be able to discuss things with users, didnt want a blog.anyway, a started a project that was unique in my field, only other person doing it was charging insane pricing to a teen crowd, I spent 6 months reversing a certain phones firmware and writing code for said project and after it was done was contacted by someone to team up....long story short things were going great until one morning I was locked out of my own system(I paid hosting, owned/ceated domain, did all the behind the scene projects and other guy handled the public forums). we got into vicious hacking wars lasting a few days while arguing with the hosting company back and forth over who actually owned the site. host locked both out until I proved I owned everything as well as paid the bills, all proven with receipts, emails, etc. I did eventually get back control and still have the site but its been a ghostown ever since. I only keep it up for the same purposes it was for originally....my playground. guy was trying to turn this into a profitable business but thats not why I do the things I do online., I do this stuff because I enjoy it.
If this is whats going on with you and this guy pulled a similar stunt I would walk away and never return. if you owned the domain, as well as legal rights to the database fight it, otherwise theirs going to be 2 sites with the same usersbase only 1 will be larger in the end...one will die. I know the situatation as to why It was started and honestly dont see a real need for it. it would be nice to replace all the closed portions but continuing the project would only come back later when HTC decides to crack down on drivers which unless you guys have the datasheets and skill/time to rewrite will take longer than its worth, which will need to be redone as new models come out. just gottta decide for yourself if its worth continuing with it.
Good luck, ****ty situation I know.
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Well lucky for me, I talked to him and he played dumb saying it wasn't him. I convinced him to give me passwords to the admin panel and got all my files and databases and deleted it from his server. So he has nothing but an empty domain now. He also logged into another admin account when I was moving it to my site and started deleting forums and users, I had to add the database to my site a 2nd time and instantly delete him and ban him.
I moved it back to my hosting (which I really wanted in the first place) and I will get a new domain in the near future.

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Well lucky for me, I talked to him and he played dumb saying it wasn't him. I convinced him to give me passwords to the admin panel and got all my files and databases and deleted it from his server. So he has nothing but an empty domain now. He also logged into another admin account when I was moving it to my site and started deleting forums and users, I had to add the database to my site a 2nd time and instantly delete him and ban him.
I moved it back to my hosting (which I really wanted in the first place) and I will get a new domain in the near future.
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is he willing to transfer the domain name? you can always do that if you wanted to maintain the same name .. he just has to give authorization in the registrar for you to take the domain .. just a thought

LucidREM said:
is he willing to transfer the domain name? you can always do that if you wanted to maintain the same name .. he just has to give authorization in the registrar for you to take the domain .. just a thought
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I have the .org version, and I will transfer it to evilpig. Or I will point it to his DNS servers if he wants. I got it in the beginning before the .com site went up. So I just have it sitting there. I don't give a damn about the $10, so if the community will use it, I'll donate it.
evilpig: PM or email me and let me know if you want to use it. You can run the hosting so this can't happen again. I'll email you the transfer code or just change the DNS, whatever you want.

Evilpig (i love your avatar by the way) have you brought this to the attention of a forum Moderator? They should definitely be aware of anyone using this site to take advantage of other people. And what you've explained was a blatant disregard for any of us...
I believe what he did was intentional, from the beginning when you announced your intentions. This is unacceptable...
I hope something is done about it....

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I have the .org version, and I will transfer it to evilpig. Or I will point it to his DNS servers if he wants. I got it in the beginning before the .com site went up. So I just have it sitting there. I don't give a damn about the $10, so if the community will use it, I'll donate it.
evilpig: PM or email me and let me know if you want to use it. You can run the hosting so this can't happen again. I'll email you the transfer code or just change the DNS, whatever you want.
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Thanks man. The .org should be up in 24-48 hours.
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Evilpig (i love your avatar by the way) have you brought this to the attention of a forum Moderator? They should definitely be aware of anyone using this site to take advantage of other people. And what you've explained was a blatant disregard for any of us...
I believe what he did was intentional, from the beginning when you announced your intentions. This is unacceptable...
I hope something is done about it....
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I hope a mod will catch this thread and do something about it.

Ok so it's been brought to my attention that Evilpig's, accusations are purely FRAUD.
I agree that I had registered the domain - but I did not STEAL it. Since your host had not registered the domain in time, I had taken the opportunity to do so.
I'd like to clarify that Evilpig's was the one attempting to take over the hosting and domain the entire time. (see convo's below)
As per the logs, it turns out that Jared's IP was registered as last logged-in.
The biggest complication with the accusations that Jared is imposing is my own benefit of providing him with the administrator access after the situation.
As anyone can verify, I had not been an "active" member on the site. (in the sense that I would not log in everday.) I would visit the site on a weekly basis.
There would be no need for me to get into the site, change everything as Jared claims, and make the site my own.
You've been trying to persuade me for the hosting since day one.
9:08PM 9:08 PM
would you mind if I hosted the site and set up the domain to point to it?
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Oh and Jared, I'd like to remind you that you are failing to stay upto your word.
Jared: with this project
any money is going to you for hosting and the rest could be saved up for who knows what
3:25PM Jared: woot already $1.13 on ads
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I haven't received any compensation, as you stated would occur.
I've tried to contact you, but I get no response.
All in all : These actions were clearly done by him as his motive was to migrate the site/domain to his own hosting so that he could take total control.
His accusations toward me are considered defamation, and I hope this gives you a sense of the actual character of Evilpig's.
I do legally own the domain and what he has done is effectively theft of the site which is my intellectual property.

Actually, as he is the web dev and I see no contract, he owns anything he personally works on regardless of what domain he uploaded it to.
Period.
So... you own no intellectual rights to anything. You own no copyright, nor do you own any form or fashion anything carried on under the domain name.
You simply own a .com. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I don't want to get in the middle of this, but I work in the industry as a developer for web applications, graphic design, and minor creative development of projects. Without a contract, copyright, or trademark (in the case of logos or other property) all you can do is thank him for the work he did and move on.
This is why if you register a domain and collaborate with someone, you always have it in writing. Otherwise, when you try to screw someone, they can just walk away and take everything.
All you can do is feel bad that you didn't think it through first.

Well, I think Jared's role needs to be clarified then.
As far as web development goes, I had installed and configured all of the applications used, i.e. WordPress and phpBB.
All Jared had done was have someone create a banner and add it to the site, which I really don't consider to be "web development."

It would still be his content if he added to your wordpress in the form of posts and uploads. Regardless of his role. Again meaning that without a contract or some other legally binding action, you can't accuse him of stealing intellectual property.
I'm not picking sides, I just want to clarify to everyone before people start throwing mud in each others faces.
Last thing this community needs is people being shady and going behind each others backs. Open source is not about who did what and who gets the most fame and notification. It's about working on something for a greater cause as a community. Those who deserve it will get their recognition without stealing, threatening, or taking anything.

DropBox lovers be aware: http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/2295006

Be aware if you are too happy with Dropbox!
http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/229500683
I hope you are not pushing your too private info to DropBox...undo it if you already did...Good luc!
rcjpth

I don't think someone else is uploading the same "special" photo of me to dropbox to share among my boxes, so I should be safe

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Be aware if you are too happy with Dropbox!
http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/security/229500683
I hope you are not pushing your too private info to DropBox...undo it if you already did...Good luc!
rcjpth
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I was warning people about them weeks ago. But that was because they had admitted they will share your files and info about them with just about anyone with some semblance of official office.
That was enough for me. I removed all files, cancelled my account and uninstalled everywhere.
Read their T&C and you will too ... if you are smart.

isn't this only important for those with sensitive data.
all i store is music, movies and school projects.
who cares if someone sees that?

Good to know. Thanks.

honestly, what files can you possibly have stored there that authorities can use as evidence against you in a court of law?
and second why warn people? unless you believe a good percentage of people on this forum are criminals in some shape, way or form AND you're okay with crimes they have or will commit like pedophiles or identity thieves... not cool!

DiGiTY said:
and second why warn people? unless you believe a good percentage of people on this forum are criminals in some shape, way or form AND you're okay with crimes they have or will commit like pedophiles or identity thieves... not cool!
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Actually, yeah - according to current IP laws - I think quite a few are. I can well imagine that many here have some app, program, song, movie or something that is not 100% legal.
As to perverts and thieves, this is not that kind of forum, so I think there are few of them here. However, just sharing an APK that is not 100% free is a crime, according to the letter of the law.
The reason I say anything at all is that quite a few otherwise good people are suffering from our current archaic and antiquated legal system.
Ignorance of the real world and how it really works is also not cool, as it can land you in jail.

nunjabusiness said:
I can well imagine that many here have some app, program, song, movie or something that is not 100% legal.
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I know this might be viewed as crazy, but unencrypted cloud storage should be viewed as unsecured no matter who provides it. Because it is.
I had heard about the dropbox thing a month ago, and was not in the least surprised. Needless to say it had no impact at all on my use of dropbox.

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Actually, yeah - according to current IP laws - I think quite a few are. I can well imagine that many here have some app, program, song, movie or something that is not 100% legal.
As to perverts and thieves, this is not that kind of forum, so I think there are few of them here. However, just sharing an APK that is not 100% free is a crime, according to the letter of the law.
The reason I say anything at all is that quite a few otherwise good people are suffering from our current archaic and antiquated legal system.
Ignorance of the real world and how it really works is also not cool, as it can land you in jail.
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Trust me; they can give a rat's ass about IP laws. When I got busted running a server, the FBI were only called in because they thought I had child porn too. When they realized their mistake... nothing. All those IP law infractions in my possession and nothing happened. Their real concern is people using technology like this to further their crimes against REAL people. I say go ahead and peek.

A sad sad day for Android and pokemon fans alike

Nolan lawson's great pokedex app is being requested off of the android market by nintendo, lawson has agreed to do so and stop all work on his program
details as follows
A legal representative of The Pokémon Company has responded to me via email. He has confirmed that TPC would like Pokédroid, and all similar apps, to be removed from the Android Market. TPC’s stance is apparently that they don’t want any Pokémon-related apps at all for the Android platform. They feel that such apps infringe upon their copyrights and compete with the print versions of their strategy guides. I will make a proper post about this once I’ve gathered enough information.
Today I received an email from Google explaining that Pokédroid Donate was removed from the Android Market due to a DMCA takedown notice from The Pokémon Company (a subsidiary of Nintendo). The email begins:
This is a notification that the application, Pokédroid (Donate) with package ID com.nolanlawson.pokedex.donate has been removed from Android Market due to a violation of the Developer Content Policy. Please review the Content Policies and Business and Program Policies before you create or upload additional applications. Note that repeated violations may result in a suspension of your Android Market Publisher account.
http://nolanlawson.com/
http://www.appbrain.com/app/pokédroid-pokédex/com.nolanlawson.pokedex
Anybody using the app has known about the chance of this happening. I Want to thank Nolan Lawson for making me feel like a real pokemon trainer while having this amazing app

pokemon sucks.

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pokemon sucks.
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Haha lawlzz. I kinda like Pokemon. I mean who didnt at one point?
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If I were Google, I'd tell the guy, it's not because you violated policy, more because Nintendo didn't like it, be more modest.

I'm a Pokemon fan, and annoyed by Nintendo's attitude to this, they aren't going to make people suddenly rush out and buy an official strategy guide. People will just fire up their browsers and look at one of the millions of fan-made pages to get their information.
I would also like to thank the devs that made these apps, Nintendo should be hiring them and making an official Pokemon app, as it's clearly what people want rather than having to carry a large paperback book just to check what level a pokemon evolves at.

I just downloaded it and backed it up for the hell of it, maybe it can still be distributed that way.

I Am Marino said:
I just downloaded it and backed it up for the hell of it, maybe it can still be distributed that way.
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Would ask the dev first as it's technically piracy.
My phone is off for repair and I won't get it back until this has vanished, would like a copy of it to reinstall once my phone is back, but don't want to disrespect the dev by getting a dodgy copy.

Tachikoma_kun said:
Would ask the dev first as it's technically piracy.
My phone is off for repair and I won't get it back until this has vanished, would like a copy of it to reinstall once my phone is back, but don't want to disrespect the dev by getting a dodgy copy.
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Wrong.
Its available on Slideme market for free.
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Post up the apk
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thats a shame, its fun app. i backed it up myself.
i wonder if nintendo will go after iphones pokedex app(s)
whos it hurting? i mean its not like nintendo has their own pokedex app in the market or something...oh well. in a way i guess he can feel complimented that his app got popular enough for nintendo to notice!

I prefer Chimpokomon myself.

Found the reason they were so pro-active in getting rid of the guides:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/nintendo-3ds-eshop-packs-solid-features-skimpy-lineup.ars
Official Pokemon guide on the 3DS store.

What is the best Parental Control app?

(this is not a commercial thread)
I'm a father of two and they have been using the net since young age as I think the sooner they would understand the dangers and the positives it would be better than delaying the inevitable.
The backslash was that the oldest gain too much knowleged and has been online not behaving well.
I've surf around the XDA and Google and have not found an actual Android app that is cost effective and actually reliable enought to allow them to continue without supervision of all what they do.
Any suggestions out there, even from the more "dark side" ?
What I've found so far and a few comments on my opinion:
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I tend to go to the highstermobi app but not sure if there could be a better app with the missing features this one has.
Any comments or additional suggestions are so welcome!

according to Forum Rules
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and to offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Do not post press releases, announcements, links to trial software or commercial services, unless you’re posting an exclusive release for XDA-Developers.com.
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I know you stated
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but it looks like it

xanthrax said:
according to Forum Rules
I know you stated
but it looks like it
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I understand, that is why I posted saying non commercial, how to you suggest me to make this question?
I definitely have no affiliation with any of this companies and actually I'm looking for something other than this as these do not fullfill my goal.
I can erase the reference to all apps. I wanted to avoid members to say "I did not google or search around".
Thanks for the help!

pauloviegas said:
(this is not a commercial thread)
I'm a father of two and they have been using the net since young age as I think the sooner they would understand the dangers and the positives it would be better than delaying the inevitable.
The backslash was that the oldest gain too much knowleged and has been online not behaving well.
I've surf around the XDA and Google and have not found an actual Android app that is cost effective and actually reliable enought to allow them to continue without supervision of all what they do.
Any suggestions out there, even from the more "dark side" ?
What I've found so far and a few comments on my opinion:
mod edit - paid services links and descriptions removed
I tend to go to the highstermobi app but not sure if there could be a better app with the missing features this one has.
Any comments or additional suggestions are so welcome!
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Here is the issue that you will face. In many places apps like the ones you want are deemed illegal. Even if installing on your child's device. Might want to look into the laws where you are.
Apps like that are also not allowed to be talked about here so I hate to say it but you won't be finding any help on the matter here.
As a parent of twin teen boys. All I can say is sometimes you have to let them learn things on their own. You can't protect them forever.

pauloviegas said:
I understand, that is why I posted saying non commercial, how to you suggest me to make this question?
I definitely have no affiliation with any of this companies and actually I'm looking for something other than this as these do not fullfill my goal.
I can erase the reference to all apps. I wanted to avoid members to say "I did not google or search around".
Thanks for the help!
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you can discuss about this apps but not linking them as you did with prices as well, are you interested on the price or usability , I would say the last so you can discuss about this. You already have an advice above so you can get feedback without linking them

zelendel said:
Here is the issue that you will face. In many places apps like the ones you want are deemed illegal. Even if installing on your child's device. Might want to look into the laws where you are.
Apps like that are also not allowed to be talked about here so I hate to say it but you won't be finding any help on the matter here.
As a parent of twin teen boys. All I can say is sometimes you have to let them learn things on their own. You can't protect them forever.
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Thanks for the time to reply. You're right on all comments, but one is always afraid, specially because they are pre-teen.
Thanks.

pauloviegas said:
Thanks for the time to reply. You're right on all comments, but one is always afraid, specially because they are pre-teen.
Thanks.
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The one that has gained knowledge from using the Internet would probably circumvent anything you did anyway, in a way, your plan would only fuel his fire to learn more to bypass whatever you do, so in effect, you'd be pushing him the direction you don't want him to go even faster than if you just left it alone. With that particular child, you'd have to completely restrict their access to the internet, which is virtually impossible in today's world.
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Droidriven said:
The one that has gained knowledge from using the Internet would probably circumvent anything you did anyway, in a way, your plan would only fuel his fire to learn more to bypass whatever you do, so in effect, you'd be pushing him the direction you don't want him to go even faster than if you just left it alone. With that particular child, you'd have to completely restrict their access to the internet, which is virtually impossible in today's world.
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Exactly. Not to mention that with the schools and topics of learning these days. They probably already know how to bypass it. I was amazed the first time I caught my boys sending messages encrypted in their pictures. When I asked where they learned it, they learned it in school. This is when came to understand that there was nothing I could really do about it.
We always want our kids to surpass us. Which they normally do but that comes with some hard pills to swallow as a parent lol.