Tell my why I shouldn't return my One M9 for an S6 - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've had my HTC One M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?

...You came to the S6 forum to ask fans of the device to talk you into NOT getting it?
Seriously? -_-
Nah, this is definitely an April Fool's post.

I was torn between the m9 and s6..after watching the keynote and seeing hands on videos, I quickly decided on the s6. I'm glad I did. Pictures look better than my g2 (the phone I came from). The screen crispness, colors and brightness is superb! Didn't mind not having micro SD or removable battery since I didn't have it before.
The only thing I find weird to adjust is that whites seem to have a yellow tint, where as on my g2 they were more blue or white (in my opinion).
The front facing camera is really nice quality too.
S6,higher res screen in a slightly bigger screen size. The size of s6 is smaller and lighter than the m9.

Poetique said:
...You came to the S6 forum to ask fans of the device to talk you into NOT getting it?
Seriously? -_-
Nah, this is definitely an April Fool's post.
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Sure, why not? There's folks here that can tell me real life pros and cons.

ledvedder said:
Sure, why not? There's folks here that can tell me real life pros and cons.
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Well... the only cons are the same cons that every review mentions. Lack of SD card slot and price. Also the speaker quality is obviously lesser on the S6 if that matters to you.
The only other consideration is how much you care about rooting/unlocking/custom ROM support, which will certainly be stronger on the M9 just because it's a Snapdragon device. At least that's how it'll be initially.
Other than those, the M9 loses in every other measurable area.
So really the M9 Vs. S6 issue comes down to how much the price difference matters, how much you care about "3rd party" support, and whether or not you need a SD card slot.
Edit: Suppose the M9 warranty program is worth considering as well.

tlxxxsracer said:
I was torn between the m9 and s6..after watching the keynote and seeing hands on videos, I quickly decided on the s6. I'm glad I did. Pictures look better than my g2 (the phone I came from). The screen crispness, colors and brightness is superb! Didn't mind not having micro SD or removable battery since I didn't have it before.
The only thing I find weird to adjust is that whites seem to have a yellow tint, where as on my g2 they were more blue or white (in my opinion).
The front facing camera is really nice quality too.
S6,higher res screen in a slightly bigger screen size. The size of s6 is smaller and lighter than the m9.
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How's battery life compared to the G2? My M9 doesn't come close to my previous G2.

ledvedder said:
How's battery life compared to the G2? My M9 doesn't come close to my previous G2.
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We'll, my G2 was running aicp 5.0.2 with custom rom which I could easily go 24hrs and be fine.
So far my s6 has slightly less battery life. But i can quickly go from 15% to 100% in an hour. Balances out. I'm using the s6 a lot to get things setup and such, so not quite a fair comparison. Letting the battery settle in for a week.
I do see a speed difference between my g2 and the s6 though
I'm even kinda been on the fence to keep my G2 and hold out what's to come in the fall, but that is very unlikely for me to do.

tlxxxsracer said:
We'll, my G2 was running aicp 5.0.2 with custom rom which I could easily go 24hrs and be fine.
So far my s6 has slightly less battery life. But i can quickly go from 15% to 100% in an hour. Balances out. I'm using the s6 a lot to get things setup and such, so not quite a fair comparison. Letting the battery settle in for a week.
I do see a speed difference between my g2 and the s6 though
I'm even kinda been on the fence to keep my G2 and hold out what's to come in the fall, but that is very unlikely for me to do.
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The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.

ledvedder said:
The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.
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Here's my thoughts on the s6, instead of me writing a long post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089

tenxo said:
Here's my thoughts on the s6, instead of me writing a long post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089
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Thanks, I've read it already [emoji106]

ledvedder said:
The s6 is faster, or the g2? Same here with waiting. I wanted to wait for the g4, but with T-Mobile's jump, I'm able to upgrade every 6 months. So, no biggie if I wanna go back to LG at the end of the year.
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I haven't gotten the S6 yet since I'll have to wait until April 10th, and I'm also coming from a G2.
The S6 will definitely be faster- even though I really do enjoy my G2.

All the Bestbuy locations have the S6/Edge on display. I suggest you check them out in person.

If you are coming here to ask you have already made your decision. To be honest if you are interested in a G4 id wait until its announced and compare that to the S6 then get a device.

I'll tell you why you SHOULD return your One M9. The S6 is by far the biggest leap I've ever seen in a phone, and I've had every major LG/HTC/Samsung phone from the past 3 years lol.
It truly is a home run.

Keep m9 for a bit longer to see if anything changes in terms of camera and battery performance. I think a person should keep a phone for a least two weeks to get a good impression. Also go on HTC thread to see camera tricks. I'm getting m9 tomorrow and I will see if it will meet my great expectations as I'm coming from a phone that's three years old.
I would only buy s6 if camera was the main thing but for me it isn't and the negatives of the s6 outweigh my liking for the device. The soc difference isn't big in reality and I think they both have inconsistent battery reviews from people, so they are similarly disappointing. Design and ui are a personal opinion but I think m9 is better.
Go with whatever you like tbh and I hope whichever phone you choose you have a great experience
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This thread is unnecessary. The M9 is a major fail

ingenious247 said:
This thread is unnecessary. The M9 is a major fail
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I think that's a bit harsh. My only gripe with the phone is the camera.

ledvedder said:
I think that's a bit harsh. My only gripe with the phone is the camera.
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Only Gripe? Having a camera THAT bad is a HUGE fail on HTC's part, when the biggest weakness they've had since the M7 fiasco was their camera
All they had to do to save their company was fix their camera and put a 2K screen in their new flagship.
Instead, they did neither. I predict either a buyout from Samsung to grab patents or HTC simply going out of business in a year.

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Only Gripe? Having a camera THAT bad is a HUGE fail on HTC's part, when the biggest weakness they've had since the M7 fiasco was their camera
All they had to do to save their company was fix their camera and put a 2K screen in their new flagship.
Instead, they did neither. I predict either a buyout from Samsung to grab patents or HTC simply going out of business in a year.
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Screen is a moot point no real difference with 1080p its just a numbers game tbh. iPhone 6 has a lower resolution screen and funnily enough it also looks fine.

Thank god they didn't put a 2k display and the camera isn't an epic fail. They haven't pushed the sensor to what it is capable of. Also manual control says a different story. I doubt they are going bust this year and I think they would rather die then sell themselves to Samsung. I do hope they do get bought by another respectable company so they can be in a better position. They just need more money in R&D and marketing.
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Nexus 5 vs G2? Which to go for?

Hi guys,
Ordered a Nexus 5 black 32GB to be dispatched for 5th Nov - that's almost £350. Still need to order a bumper - which brings cost to close to G2's £400 price tag. I know the spec is great all round - the only thing to watchout for is the battery.
Just a bit concerned on the battery. Not sure if Google's own optimisation is enough to compensate for its smaller battery.
Would you get G2 or Nexus 5? :silly:
Set8up said:
Hi guys,
Ordered a Nexus 5 black 32GB to be dispatched for 5th Nov - that's almost £350. Still need to order a bumper - which brings cost to close to G2's £400 price tag. I know the spec is great all round - the only thing to watchout for is the battery.
Just a bit concerned on the battery. Not sure if Google's own optimisation is enough to compensate for its smaller battery.
Would you get G2 or Nexus 5? :silly:
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Depends on what is important to you.
N5 wins on software (updates/roms), wireless charging, price
G2 wins on screen size, battery, and Camera.
Dimensions are very close, 1mm diff all around (roughly). Weight is negligible.
Honestly overall the G2 is a better specced phone, but if software is important to you then the N5 wins hands down. Or if saving 50 is important.
The G2 is a BEAST when it comes to battery though, so I think the N5 will be fine, though likely not a superstar.
I have a G2 and still ordered an N5 and will decide which is the winner for me later. It is a very tough call IMO. I am waiting to see how it feels in hand and the difference in pictures and just how long the N5 lasts on battery. Also to see how the software runs. When the N4 came out it felt blazing fast with an older CPU than what I had due to software, so I am hoping/suspicious that the N5 will feel much faster than the G2 even though they have the same hardware.
crawlgsx said:
Depends on what is important to you.
N5 wins on software (updates/roms), wireless charging, price
G2 wins on screen size, battery, and Camera.
Dimensions are very close, 1mm diff all around (roughly). Weight is negligible.
Honestly overall the G2 is a better specced phone, but if software is important to you then the N5 wins hands down. Or if saving 50 is important.
The G2 is a BEAST when it comes to battery though, so I think the N5 will be fine, though likely not a superstar.
I have a G2 and still ordered an N5 and will decide which is the winner for me later. It is a very tough call IMO. I am waiting to see how it feels in hand and the difference in pictures and just how long the N5 lasts on battery. Also to see how the software runs. When the N4 came out it felt blazing fast with an older CPU than what I had due to software, so I am hoping/suspicious that the N5 will feel much faster than the G2 even though they have the same hardware.
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Upgrading from S3 - which has been buggy lately so hoped to get a Nexus 5.
Vanilla Android sounds fantastic - and 32GB means I won't need memory card.
Nexus 5 would still be a upgrade from S3 right?
Set8up said:
Upgrading from S3 - which has been buggy lately so hoped to get a Nexus 5.
Vanilla Android sounds fantastic - and 32GB means I won't need memory card.
Nexus 5 would still be a upgrade from S3 right?
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N5 will be a HUUUUUGE upgrade from an S3 .
Vanilla is available on both (Rom's for G2), BUT will be far better/more supported on the N5.
crawlgsx said:
N5 will be a HUUUUUGE upgrade from an S3 .
Vanilla is available on both (Rom's for G2), BUT will be far better/more supported on the N5.
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Have you seen the G2 development forums? They have blown up over the past week and every major custom ROM is now available for it. CM has no deal breaking issues on it so far.
AndroidUser00110001 said:
Have you seen the G2 development forums? They have blown up over the past week and every major custom ROM is now available for it. CM has no deal breaking issues on it so far.
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I think that many of the people who have been holding out for the N5, but now find it underwhelming (for whatever reason) probably considered the G2 as "plan B" since G2 is the most similar and may have the missing features that they wanted that the N5 didn't. So there should probably be more traffic at the G2 forums sooner or later.
OP,
As a previous N4 owner, I got the G2 2 weeks ago, primarily for the battery, but also ordered the N5 (within 15min of launch). The N5 will be my backup/tinkering phone, while the G2 will be my primary since it has most of the important stuff I need.
On top of what crawlgsx has said, here's something to consider. The G2 has narrow "flat" sides, so the curved back starts closer to the edge, and ends deeper into the back, creating a more ergonomic shape. The N5, though slightly slimmer than the N4, now has thicker sides, making it "block-ier". As a medium - heavy user, this matters to me
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Have you seen the G2 development forums? They have blown up over the past week and every major custom ROM is now available for it. CM has no deal breaking issues on it so far.
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Oh yeah I'm loving it! PA is running flawlessly on mine.
But we both know the N5 will surpass it in no time and obviously AOSP will run 100% flawless on an AOSP device, as where we may end up with lingering bugs or whatever. Not saying it is there just a generalization.
The development has gone way up / awesome on the G2 though.
crawlgsx said:
N5 will be a HUUUUUGE upgrade from an S3 .
Vanilla is available on both (Rom's for G2), BUT will be far better/more supported on the N5.
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Cancelled my order.
Plain Android on N5 would have been very nice, getting all the new features as its rolled-out, etc - but I decided that G2 has a considerably better battery - micro SD, etc. Spending £350 is okay on N5 had G2 not existed - since G2 does exist, it doesn't make sense to get something that's not quite as good for almost the same amount. Can't imagine Snapdragon 800 running off 2300mhz battery to be honest. At £239 I could have lived with that - but £350 delivered is well into the flagship price range - can't justify it.
Well back to square one now.
Any chance the battery on the G2 can fit in the N5 (perhaps with a little shaving off the edges, etc...)?
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Have you seen the G2 development forums? They have blown up over the past week and every major custom ROM is now available for it. CM has no deal breaking issues on it so far.
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For the life of me I don't see an Optimus G2 subforum here at XDA, must be getting older than I thought... or is this some forum located elsewhere? Link would be appreciated, thanks.
br0adband said:
For the life of me I don't see an Optimus G2 subforum here at XDA, must be getting older than I thought... or is this some forum located elsewhere? Link would be appreciated, thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2?nocache=1&z=89210264850407
Thanks, apparently they're just referring to it as the LG G2, not LG Optimus G2 which was throwing off the search.
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Have you seen the G2 development forums? They have blown up over the past week and every major custom ROM is now available for it. CM has no deal breaking issues on it so far.
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you tell em ps thanks for all the ports
Set8up said:
Cancelled my order.
...but I decided that G2 has a considerably better battery - micro SD, etc.
Well back to square one now.
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I assume you are aware by now that the LG G2 does not have a microSD slot (except the South Korean version).
I'd personally go for G2 if it was no more than £400 for 32GB version but that's not available!
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Set8up said:
Hi guys,
Ordered a Nexus 5 black 32GB to be dispatched for 5th Nov - that's almost £350. Still need to order a bumper - which brings cost to close to G2's £400 price tag. I know the spec is great all round - the only thing to watchout for is the battery.
Just a bit concerned on the battery. Not sure if Google's own optimisation is enough to compensate for its smaller battery.
Would you get G2 or Nexus 5? :silly:
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Battery is my only concern. Now that camera samples are showing up it seems as if Google finally may have gotten the camera right.
But the battery....
Hopefully the OS is well optimized. We all know that's actually more important than battery size, right?
Fingers crossed.
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br0adband said:
For the life of me I don't see an Optimus G2 subforum here at XDA, must be getting older than I thought... or is this some forum located elsewhere? Link would be appreciated, thanks.
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It is not called Optimus, just LG G2 (D800/D801/D803, etc)
Edit: Sorry I see you already saw this, I missed the latest page! *doh*.

incredibly disappointed in the M8...

So, after spending a few years using HTC products (coming from Apple)...I have to say that I am increasingly disappointed with my "NEW" M8... And I'm sure all the die yards out there (which I was up until the M8, will attack me for saying this...) But, this phone is singularly the most disappointing thing that has ever happened to me.
I went from the iPhone 4 to the desire to the DNA to the M7 to the M8... And for the first 3 jumps, was incredibly pleased... Until now.
I have essentially spent $600 on a bigger M7. With the loss of the capacative buttons, and addition of the soft nav keys, I am left with the same size screen... Stock kernel adds almost no performance increase over a nodded M7 kernel... And the "actions to wake/sleep" aren't really that exciting coming from my M7..
The ONLY two things that I see as an upgrade are the battery (to be fair, is WAY better) and the option to use an AD card. There still is NO inductive charging in HTC's flagship... Yes, the screen size is increased, but lost to the soft nav keys, the camera that was garbage in the M7 is garbage in the M8... And the addition of a depth sensor satisfies exactly 4 people on the planet...
Pile that on top of the fact that I am now writti g from my 3rd M8 (I've had the phone(s) for a whopping 17 days...And am on my 3rd... My first had some messed up LCD bleed out of the box... My second wouldn't detect headphone removal... So... 17 days and $1800 worth of phone later, I'm still left with a feeling of jealousy as I look at my girlfriend's unrooted S5, seeing her using her full screen, inductive charging, a phone that weighs WAY less, and still has just as goon battery life and an infinitely better camera... Save for her lack of front facing camera... I am routinely jealous... And it's sad... Sad to have whY should be an amazing device, constantly showing that so little attention was given by the engineers at HTC as to what their customers wanted.. Sad..Sad...Sad...
So... Patiently waiting for the VZW S5 to get root, and I think I will leave this HTC trend behind...
I can relate to the headphone issues, that was very irritating.Now I am scared to plug any head phones in ... That was my second device.. My first device had air bubbles under the screen... HTC quality inspection sucks IMO.
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This is all under 15 days btw.
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Are you really suprised that the m8 is basically a m7 I mean anyone that looked at the specs should have reallized the m8 was a m7 with a bigger battery and a second crappy camera lol??? I mean come on lol having said that the s5 is a cheaply made piece of crap HTC may have issues out of the box but build quality is on a different level compared to Samsung anything.
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I've had zeros issues with mine and everything has been working great. The S5 looks good too, but touch wiz and a locked up bootloader with probably no way to unlock completely kill any samsung for me. I understand the camera isn't the best. but it works well enough for a phone and is fast and better in low light than any of my previous phones. If I wanted to take good pictures I'd use my DSLR anyways. Sound's like you've had some bad luck and like the S5 more anyways. Get whatever makes you happy no reason to spend so much on it if it doesn't.
Had mine since day one and haven't had one single issue. Used to be a Sammy fanboy before I traded my S4 for an M7 last year and I haven't looked back since. The S5 doesn't even interest me. Lol
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I have had HTC phones for a long time running and have also (and still do) have phones from Samsung (Note 3) and Sony (Xperia Z). It sounds to me like you have had some bad luck when it comes to the M8 and I certainly can understand why you are upset. One of my favorite things to do is to Mod my phone in various ways and I have always had that ability when it comes to HTC unlike Samsung. As the other poster said, The M8 is an updated version of the M7 not a ground breaking jump to something new. Apple is the reigning king of this by far. This is not a completely new model just an update of an already popular phone. One thing I do totally agree with you is about the camera. Many people believe the higher the megapixel the better picture will be. This is far from the truth. All a higher megapixel rating does is add pixels to an image which is useful for printing large format photos and cropping. That all being said, I feel like HTC could have done more to enhance the camera taking abilities of the phone. If I want to take a picture that counts I reach for my real (DSLR) camera. I love my M8 and loved my M7. I am certain that if the S5 is what you want there will be many willing buyers of your M8 to allow you to switch over to the S5. Everyone has different experiences and opinions so I am by no means going to say you are wrong. What I will say is as far as my M8 is concerned I am completely satisfied. Good luck jumping on the Samsung train.
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I have had HTC phones for a long time running and have also (and still do) have phones from Samsung (Note 3) and Sony (Xperia Z). It sounds to me like you have had some bad luck when it comes to the M8 and I certainly can understand why you are upset. One of my favorite things to do is to Mod my phone in various ways and I have always had that ability when it comes to HTC unlike Samsung. As the other poster said, The M8 is an updated version of the M7 not a ground breaking jump to something new. Apple is the reigning king of this by far. This is not a completely new model just an update of an already popular phone. One thing I do totally agree with you is about the camera. Many people believe the higher the megapixel the better picture will be. This is far from the truth. All a higher megapixel rating does is add pixels to an image which is useful for printing large format photos and cropping. That all being said, I feel like HTC could have done more to enhance the camera taking abilities of the phone. If I want to take a picture that counts I reach for my real (DSLR) camera. I love my M8 and loved my M7. I am certain that if the S5 is what you want there will be many willing buyers of your M8 to allow you to switch over to the S5. Everyone has different experiences and opinions so I am by no means going to say you are wrong. What I will say is as far as my M8 is concerned I am completely satisfied. Good luck jumping on the Samsung train.
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I too have a DSLR camera (Canon T4i... and i DIDNT buy the T5i because canon admitted that the T5i JUST added really good movie quality... quality that you can obtain by adding magic lantern... AND THEY ADMIT IT!!! (google it if you dont believe me)... and i didnt buy a D60 BECAUSE im not an amazing photographer, looking to get on the cover of NatGeo... and i knew i would get what i expected because canon was honest.. and i spent what i spent... because canon was honest... The garbage that HTC spews about their camera is nothing more than that.. its garbage... You CAN NOT refocus a shot with your M8.. you can add blur to it.. and it takes about 30 seconds to do so.. but i can do the same in photoshop in about half the time... and have been able to do so WITH ANY PHOTO EVER TAKEN... without 2 cameras...
As for megapixels.. you are right, to a degree.. megapixels are over rated.. you know what is under rated? adding a BETTER camera to a phone that is replacing its predecessor... they could have called it a 6MP CMOS.. and i would have felt better... but, to add exactly the same camera, with exactly the same screen size (after the soft nav) as my old phone? WTF!!! and, you know... if they hadnt used the same size HTC border at the bottom, but rather had given me edge to edge screen... fine.. but frankly, HOW DO YOU NOT FEEL RIPPED OFF? (seriously... put your M7 next to your M8... and start doing REAL comparisons... stop being biased because it's an HTC product...)
and im not saying the S5 is my direction... frankly, im leaning more severe.. thinking an i product... at least when they steal all of my money, i know im getting a remake of the last model because they added an S to it and charged $300 more for it...
FYI... I have since switched back to my M7... i really did love it as a phone... wasnt a fan of losing inductive charging... but, whatever.. the rest made up for it from the DNA... The M8 though... GARBAGE
(On a side note.. yes, the headphones.. F*ing AMAZEBALLS!!!... they actually do sound better on my M8 and M7 than my beats in ear buds do)...
I don't have much to dispute about what your saying about the camera. But if I was buying a phone for only a camera it wouldn't be an HTC or a Samsung. Overall I knew what I was getting into and I am pleased.
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Yeah, I feel your pain. I've accepted the downsides to the M8, and if the purchase of it has taught me anything, it's made me aware of what I'm really looking for in a phone. I'm really really hoping Verizon picks up the Sony Z2, and that development is not locked down. Until the next big thing comes along, I'm ok with the M8.
Strange, isn't there supposed to be an onslaught of hate posts defending the M8 because you expressed a completely justified dissatisfaction? Aren't moderators supposed to be blathering on about how a "general" thread is apparently not place to discuss such things?
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Yeah, I feel your pain. I've accepted the downsides to the M8, and if the purchase of it has taught me anything, it's made me aware of what I'm really looking for in a phone. I'm really really hoping Verizon picks up the Sony Z2, and that development is not locked down. Until the next big thing comes along, I'm ok with the M8.
Strange, isn't there supposed to be an onslaught of hate posts defending the M8 because you expressed a completely justified dissatisfaction? Aren't moderators supposed to be blathering on about how a "general" thread is apparently not place to discuss such things?
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I am hereby renaming the M8 ... the Heavier M7... the HM7 for short...
It is a little sad that the defense for the M8 thus-far is "I'm generally satisfied" with mine...
RBThompsonV said:
I am hereby renaming the M8 ... the Heavier M7... the HM7 for short...
It is a little sad that the defense for the M8 thus-far is "I'm generally satisfied" with mine...
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What did you want us to say? I'm completely satisfied with mine.
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I love mine. I've had almost every single phone Verizon has offered in the past five or six years since I worked for them. M8 is definitely the best phone I've ever owned.
The color of the camera and dynamic range are spectacular. People wonder why the s5 has brighter pictures and its because of software post processing which degrades the quality of the image. The HTC One series is truly a photographer's phone. It takes beautiful raw images and then let's you, the user, post process the way you like.
As for the build vs the m7, the m8 is far better feeling and sturdier.
I understand what you are saying with your original post. But, there aren't going to be mind blowing new things every year. If that's what you want, then but a phone every second or third year. Don't post disappointments on here, bashing a perfectly good phone for the following year. HTC did great, you just don't know how or what to expect from mobile technology.
To add, sorry you had some lemons, but you're one of few. It happens. Move on. And the weight..it's 15 grams. Do you know how little a gram is?! Stop majoring on the minor my friend.
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The M8 is an upgraded M7... Period! Just like the S5 is an upgraded S4 and so on. If you are looking for something to blow your mind, it is not yet available. This market is getting to a point where you will probably only see minor spec bumps with ANY manufacturer. I love the M8 cause of the build and overall snappiness of the device. It is much quicker than the M7 in all tasks due to the upgraded hardware. Just sold my T-Mobile S5 and I am very grateful I did cause TouchWiz is hideous! I realized why I ditched Samsung long ago. There really is no other competition as far as Verizon phones go IMO. This has and will have a huge development following and that is few and far between nowadays, especially with Verizon. You can always wait for the iPhone 6?? Lol
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The M8 is an upgraded M7... Period! Just like the S5 is an upgraded S4 and so on. If you are looking for something to blow your mind, it is not yet available. This market is getting to a point where you will probably only see minor spec bumps with ANY manufacturer. I love the M8 cause of the build and overall snappiness of the device. It is much quicker than the M7 in all tasks due to the upgraded hardware. Just sold my T-Mobile S5 and I am very grateful I did cause TouchWiz is hideous! I realized why I ditched Samsung long ago. There really is no other competition as far as Verizon phones go IMO. This has and will have a huge development following and that is few and far between nowadays, especially with Verizon. You can always wait for the iPhone 6?? Lol
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And quick charge 2.0!!! It's insanely fast charging!! There are so many nice upgrades to this gorgeous phone. And, unlike the s5, they are well put together lol.
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And quick charge 2.0!!! It's insanely fast charging!! There are so many nice upgrades to this gorgeous phone. And, unlike the s5, they are well put together lol.
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Yup!
I'm digging my m8, Completely happy with it. Besides having to play with the camera settings for my best photo.
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Hope you enjoy the s5. It will get root sometime in the next few months in sure but with that gawd awful safe strap and no CM. The s4 was made by playschool but holy sh*t the s5 takes it to a whole new level. It feels so cheap that it could pass for a fake toy if you put a sticker on the screen. Not too mention is probably slow and clunky with its awful touchwiz ui. Don't get me wrong, TW has potential, but they need to hire some real programmers to write their software because there is no excuse for the s4 or 5 to be as slow as they are when the m7 and m8 blaze through everything with the exact same hardware. Is the m8 a worthy upgrade from an m7? I think so. It's not a night and day difference but anyone that can read should have known that.
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I am hereby renaming the M8 ... the Heavier M7... the HM7 for short...
It is a little sad that the defense for the M8 thus-far is "I'm generally satisfied" with mine...
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The "defense"... Uhhhhhhhhhh... Sounds like you're trying to bait for something..
Also, the weight thing is negligible at best... If you truly can tell a night and day difference? You've gotta work out some more.
The M8, in my opinion, is far better than the Samsung's I've sporadically owned.. And as for just an "upgraded" m7? Let's talk about Samsung.... And Apple... And LG.......... Uhhhhh
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Nah, the M8 is the best smartphone experience available right now. Samsung's Touchwiz is marred by issues in its design and performance. Stock software is VERY important nowadays since getting root, let alone a stable AOSP ROM for said device, is much more difficult nowadays. Samsung has shown that they refuse to evolve in this way and will eventually fall behind. Even Apple managed to update their user interface.
I agree that HTC needs to step up their quality control. I understand they're trying to get back into the black but I too went through 2 devices prior to having this third acceptable one.
The Z2 comes close, but I find Sony's overlay to be behind as well. HTC really knocked it out of the park with Sense 6.
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This is all personal preference. If you're so disappointed with your m8 you probably should've researched more before buying it. Possibly looking at reviews that literally all pointed out the capacitive button change and same camera quality as the m7.
Every device is going to have quirks about it that isn't perfect, so what? This phone is fantastic in every way, and nitpicking little details like the weight of the device or camera quality are things you should've researched before making a $600 purchase.
By the way, a little note on the camera, every single person who have seen some of the photos I've taken have been amazed at the quality. 70% are iPhone users. I just took a group photo yesterday with my phone, and my friend used her iPhone 5s. Everyone in the group liked my photo more, with both photos in the exact same conditions.
Give the camera a chance before you knock it, I've had nothing but great results.
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m8

im currently thinking about getting the htc m8 or waiting for the lgG3. Seen a couple reviews about the g3 having a really dim screen and that would be a deal breaker. So my question to you guys is how much does everyone like there m8? i had the m7 and it was a great phone, loved blinkfeed.
A-m-a-z-i-n-g device. That's all I have to say.
Review after review call it "the best Android phone on the market" for a reason - until the next "best" thing comes along!
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im currently thinking about getting the htc m8 or waiting for the lgG3. Seen a couple reviews about the g3 having a really dim screen and that would be a deal breaker. So my question to you guys is how much does everyone like there m8? i had the m7 and it was a great phone, loved blinkfeed.
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I was right where you are right now and I put a ton of time reading and watching reviews, doing my own pros and cons of each, and I am very happy with the M8. Literally the only draw back I have with this device is the camera. That being said, it still takes great shots as long as you don't plan on making them your HD wallpaper on your 23" monitor. I went back through all of my previous photos on old devices like the Moto X and the LG G2 and noticed that most all of my shots didn't require cropping at all or were close-ups. And personally, the extra camera features on the M8 actually enhance these types of photos that I take. So for me, it's all around great.
I was torn for 3 reasons. One was the camera which I just covered. The other was battery life, but the M8 just sips juice. Doesn't use hardly anything while not in use. And the final reason was the screen. I'm a sucker for a good screen, so naturally the G3 was calling my name; however, the 441 pixels per inch on the M8 is absolutely gorgeous. If you glue your eyeball to the screen, you may be able to convince yourself that you see pixels, but coming from a huge screen critic, you won't be displeased in the slightest.
Finally, the build quality and just overall good looks of the phone is something that people, even iPhone users, envy. Plus the sense ui on the Android OS has been greatly improved to the point where it's faster than stock android and I personally haven't experienced any lag. And let's not forgot the dual front-facing speakers which are wonderful for watching any videos or listening to music. So unless you want a ginormous screen or are a professional photographer taking photos on a smartphone for some reason, I would push you to get the M8.
so after visiting the LG G3 forums and reading some things i went and ordered the htc m8 in hot rod red, it will be here wednesday. I just dont think LG paired the right processor with the display, think they should have waited for the 805. If the battery life is as good as everyone says i should be extremely happy with the HTC m8. How is the standby battery life?
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so after visiting the LG G3 forums and reading some things i went and ordered the htc m8 in hot rod red, it will be here wednesday. I just dont think LG paired the right processor with the display, think they should have waited for the 805. If the battery life is as good as everyone says i should be extremely happy with the HTC m8. How is the standby battery life?
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Fantominal. Yes. I made a new word. Fantastic and phenomenal. In all seriousness though, overnight uncharged I averaged about -2 to 3% on stock. I let me device charge overnight now so I no longer have that stat but the battery life on this phone is overall phantabulous.
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Mine was finally delivered today and man this thing is nice. The red metal looks awesome! Fast and smooth experince.
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Mine was finally delivered today and man this thing is nice. The red metal looks awesome! Fast and smooth experince.
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Device can be s'off, rooted with custom recovery which is what drove my choice along with features and design. Custom roms have exploded for this device with stock, gpe and some cm options. I have tried most roms and am very pleased with this device... had the m7, s4 honestly my only issue with the phone is that it satisfies my need to want a newer phone lol.
Seems like the M8 development has really taken off compared to the Samsung devices. I love the design of this phone. Haven't been able to really judge battery life today, been where there isn't good service all day.
It's probably like that cause the m8 is newer then the galaxy devices.. No excuses but it seems like that.. I still have a locked bootloader been a while
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It's probably like that cause the m8 is newer then the galaxy devices.. No excuses but it seems like that.. I still have a locked bootloader been a while
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Locked because you haven't got around to it or because your running into issues?
Amazing device. Camera is awesome but scratches very easily. I can no longer use mine, need to replace it
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Locked because you haven't got around to it or because your running into issues?
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MWC released phones

Don't get me wrong, I really do enjoy my LG G3. I cant help but to want the new HTC One M9. I was debating between the G3 and the M8 earlier during the year, but went with the G3 because of the better camera. The M9 camera should be up to par and the material they use are much better. What did you guys think of the phones released today? Im just curious and wanting to start a new conversation.
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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I agree having the bigger screen and less bezels was a nice addition... At first I didn't think having a bigger screen was not going to make much a difference, but I am a little worried, now, about thinking of going back to a smaller screen... Unless the G4 comes up with something that completely wows me I think I'll get the m9... Everything I look at the pics or videos of the m9 I drool, like eye candy lol...
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It is super sexy... That's for sure
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I had the M8 at launch. But could not get use to the bezel to screen ratio. And the HTC bottom band feels so unnecessary.
I'm liking the look of the S6's internals, and it's good to see Samsung making a return to chart-topping specs (well, except the battery life) after the G3 stole the spotlight last year and Samsung released the utterly mediocre S5. Of course I'm bummed about the non-removable battery and lack of an SD card, but it's about time that they made a more premium-feeling device. My S4 is the first smartphone that I've owned that "broke", with the chrome trim coming off everywhere (ew, white plastic), and enough flex that my power button got jammed in.
The M9 looks absolutely awful, not cosmetically, but specwise. No 1440p, (another) lacklustre camera (though not as bad as the ultrapixel trash they were using before), and they don't have the uprated RAM from the S4. Pretty much the only thing this has over the S6 is battery life, as I'm really skeptical whether the DDR4 and 14nm Exynos in the S6 will be really as efficient as they allege. After getting used to the LG's phenomenal (albeit dim and power-wasteful) screen, there's no way I'm backtracking, especially since one year of development should have improved battery efficiency.
I'm eager to see what LG will churn out in the G4, since it seems like my hopes of an Xperia Z4 phone aren't going to be fulfilled.
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I'm liking the look of the S6's internals, and it's good to see Samsung making a return to chart-topping specs (well, except the battery life) after the G3 stole the spotlight last year and Samsung released the utterly mediocre S5. Of course I'm bummed about the non-removable battery and lack of an SD card, but it's about time that they made a more premium-feeling device. My S4 is the first smartphone that I've owned that "broke", with the chrome trim coming off everywhere (ew, white plastic), and enough flex that my power button got jammed in.
The M9 looks absolutely awful, not cosmetically, but specwise. No 1440p, (another) lacklustre camera (though not as bad as the ultrapixel trash they were using before), and they don't have the uprated RAM from the S4. Pretty much the only thing this has over the S6 is battery life, as I'm really skeptical whether the DDR4 and 14nm Exynos in the S6 will be really as efficient as they allege. After getting used to the LG's phenomenal (albeit dim and power-wasteful) screen, there's no way I'm backtracking, especially since one year of development should have improved battery efficiency.
I'm eager to see what LG will churn out in the G4, since it seems like my hopes of an Xperia Z4 phone aren't going to be fulfilled.
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense...
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense... The ram was increased to 3GB... the octa core processor is a beast... I really hope the camera gets better with software
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense...
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Oh no, I fully agree with you on the battery life aspect. I'm just not interested in moving back to 1080 after the G3, and I'm likely upgrading to a phablet after this phone.
I think the S6 looks mediocre, but the Edge looks really nice. Based on my previous experience with TW, Sense, and the G3, I've found OEM skins to have become genuinely more palatable, so I'm not too concerned. Sense is a hell of a lot nicer, but regardless of skin, deleting the launcher (for Nova or GNow, depending on your inclination) removes 30-40% of the skin, and almost all of the lag, if any exists in the first place.
I am keen on seeing the RAM, Exynos, and design improvements on the S6 line. I remember my old Wolfson DAC powered SGS, and want to see how far the Exynos has come since then. Especially if the M9's 810 is as prone to heat as the G3's 801 (and the subsequent battery life and performance drops), I'm a tad wary. Though, I can't believe they removed SD card support, which legitimately annoys me.
My biggest issue with the M9 is that it looks exactly like the M8 (save for the Duo Camera eyesore), which looked worse than the M7 right before it; the way I see it, S6<M8<M9<M7<S6E. As someone who trialled and traded an M8 for my G3, that doesn't have me enthused. Also, reviews have allegedly been against the new camera setup, still panning it relative to its flagship competitors (though not as bad as the Ultrapixel Duo trash), especially for its lack of OIS. Its spec sheet also is perfectly mediocre for what it is, with the only real gain over our G3 being the 810 v. the 801.
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Oh no, I fully agree with you on the battery life aspect. I'm just not interested in moving back to 1080 after the G3, and I'm likely upgrading to a phablet after this phone.
I think the S6 looks mediocre, but the Edge looks really nice. Based on my previous experience with TW, Sense, and the G3, I've found OEM skins to have become genuinely more palatable, so I'm not too concerned. Sense is a hell of a lot nicer, but regardless of skin, deleting the launcher (for Nova or GNow, depending on your inclination) removes 30-40% of the skin, and almost all of the lag, if any exists in the first place.
I am keen on seeing the RAM, Exynos, and design improvements on the S6 line. I remember my old Wolfson DAC powered SGS, and want to see how far the Exynos has come since then. Especially if the M9's 810 is as prone to heat as the G3's 801 (and the subsequent battery life and performance drops), I'm a tad wary. Though, I can't believe they removed SD card support, which legitimately annoys me.
My biggest issue with the M9 is that it looks exactly like the M8 (save for the Duo Camera eyesore), which looked worse than the M7 right before it; the way I see it, S6<M8<M9<M7<S6E. As someone who trialled and traded an M8 for my G3, that doesn't have me enthused. Also, reviews have allegedly been against the new camera setup, still panning it relative to its flagship competitors (though not as bad as the Ultrapixel Duo trash), especially for its lack of OIS. Its spec sheet also is perfectly mediocre for what it is, with the only real gain over our G3 being the 810 v. the 801.
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OK I see your point... The design is not for everyone... I am excited to see what LG has in store... My biggest problem is that I'm impatient... But even though the edge really intrigued me when I first seen it, then I read that the edge only shows time and notification... That was a disappointment to me because now I feel like all its going to do is drain the battery... They could have used that edge to be more practical... Idk I think I'm still going with the m9 bit I'm really trying to wait to see what LG has in store
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There is little gained by always chasing the latest and greatest "thing". Sure the new phones are arguably better than the G3, but is it really worth the cost? I really doubt it. Trading for a new phone every 6-12 months makes as much sense financially as trading in for a new car every 1-2 years....... Ride the G3 for at least one more cycle of flagship phone releases and then consider getting something new. Just my 2 cents....... :good:
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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I was a big HTC fan, absolutely loved my One XL and even the Aria. Tried to like the M8 but could not get over the stupid logo strip. Not only are the aesthetics weird but it gets in the way of using the phone. Touching the logo strip generates the equivalent of soft button actions but the behavior is very inconsistent.
At the time I was told that the logo strip is there because they need the room to cover up some of the hardware that drives the speakers. Which brings me up to another objection - those damn speakers that make the phone much bigger and heavier than it needs to be. As far s I am concerned a phone needs to have just enough of a speaker to produce well audible beeps and buzzes. Anything more is pointless, that's what headphones are for.
Got the G3 because of the near non existent bezels. The power and volume buttons on the back are pure genius for a phone this size. The launcher is fugly but the first thing in do with any phone is put Nova on, so that does not matter. And once you root and get rid of crap there is hardly any lag. Battery life has proved to be decent despite the QHD screen.
Which brings me to my biggest complaint about the G3 - the QHD screen. 1080p would have been perfectly fine and the battery life would have improved. What a waste. Unfortunately I can't see the G4 coming with a lower res screen from a purely marketing point, and now that Samsung has gotten on the bandwagon HTC cannot be far behind. Pitty. Maybe a motto X is in my future.

Pixel xl vs essential

Anyone make the switch? To be honest, I'm still very happy with my pixel xl. Camera is relevant and the ux/ui performance is still top notch.
I'm thinking this would be a side-grade and not really an upgrade?
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I just picked up an Essential to replace an HTC 10. For me, I was looking at used Pixel XL's (128GB) and new Essential Phone since they're around the same pricepoint.
What came down to it for me was the Snapdragon 835, new/fresh battery, and probably less warranty issues with a brand new phone.
I have a Nexus 6p and I bought an Essential phone and I'm selling the Essential because the camera quality was poorer (even with g cam trying optimizing it, pictures have a slight yellow hue and the picture is a little bit less sharp, while the Nexus 6p often have the best colors right off the bat) and the passage from AMOLED back to LCD was meh. Plus you gonna still have the update faster if you stick to the Pixel. But the build quality is fantastic.
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Plus you gonna still have the update faster if you stick to the Pixel. But the build quality is fantastic.
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Yeah, the Pixel got the November update on Monday. We had to wait until Tuesday.
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Yeah, the Pixel got the November update on Monday. We had to wait until Tuesday.
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But there is still no Oreo, while i have it on my Nexus 6p since September (and I need the LDAC support of Oreo)
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Yeah, the Pixel got the November update on Monday. We had to wait until Tuesday.
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Yeah, I was surprised how quickly essential got that out. But I think he is also referring to os updates. I'm running 8.1 on my pixel. It'll be a while before essential pushes that out.
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I sold my pixel for the essential.
The pixel camera app is much quicker and more reliable than essentials. As far as picture quality goes, indoors, when trying to capture more fine details the Pixel camera definitely wins. In good lighting and outdoors I can't tell a difference between the 2.
In terms of everything else the essential is better. Build quality and materials are better. More storage for less money. Performance is better on the essential. The essential is easier to tote around and use one handed because the bezels are smaller. If it wasn't for essential taking so long to improve the camera app then I would say it is the best smartphone experience I have had. And I have had a lot. Like over 20 easily.
Also I went through 6 pixels. The first one had paint chipping issues like nothing I have ever seen. The second one had a faulty speaker. The third one had radio issues. The 4th had fast charge issues. The 5th had issues with overheating to the point where I couldn't hold the device. And I am not a heavy user. And the 6th I sold as soon as it came in.
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I sold my pixel for the essential.
The pixel camera app is much quicker and more reliable than essentials. As far as picture quality goes, indoors, when trying to capture more fine details the Pixel camera definitely wins. In good lighting and outdoors I can't tell a difference between the 2.
In terms of everything else the essential is better. Build quality and materials are better. More storage for less money. Performance is better on the essential. The essential is easier to tote around and use one handed because the bezels are smaller. If it wasn't for essential taking so long to improve the camera app then I would say it is the best smartphone experience I have had. And I have had a lot. Like over 20 easily.
Also I went through 6 pixels. The first one had paint chipping issues like nothing I have ever seen. The second one had a faulty speaker. The third one had radio issues. The 4th had fast charge issues. The 5th had issues with overheating to the point where I couldn't hold the device. And I am not a heavy user. And the 6th I sold as soon as it came in.
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Xl
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Original or 2nd gen? I had my earpiece speaker blow on my og xl.. had it bl unlocked but it was a Verizon model.. replacement from google had updated bl so i couldnt unlocked and i dumped it.. pre-order 2 xl.. then cancelled a few days before it shipped because of all of the screen issues.....my ph-1 will be here Monday.. cant wait
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The original. I thought about getting the Pixel 2 but the high price and screen issues keeps me away. If a phone cost nearly $1000 it better be perfect.
I think I ended up with the Essential Phone partly by choice and partly by accident. I'm a Sprint customer. My old Galaxy S5 was broken, I needed a phone that was cheap, as up to date as possible, and available NOW. That was early September. The PH-1 was by far the cheapest option for me to buy through Sprint.
There's a lot to love and a lot to hate. The camera app has gotten better but won't be winning any awards pretty much ever. That said, it's decent. The phone's form factor is small, which means it can fit into a pocket where a Pixel XL won't. As a longtime Samsung owner I love the pure android ability to get rid of bloat, but I'm used to a much more reliable experience and a much better looking screen. I love the huge screen on a tiny phone, but LCD is just so pedestrian at this point. I was always running out of internal space on my Samsung, so it's awesome to have 128GB internal. It's annoying that SD card support and phone jack weren't included. It's probably the best looking phone out there right now, which is kinda cool. Sadly, it's very buggy. It loses connection with my android watch and I've had to completely wipe and reconnect it a few times already. There is no "press the _____ button" to activate Google Assistant" option (as least not that I know of) which is a bit of a downer. Voice recognition is super buggy. The phone says it's listening, but you have to wait of few seconds because it will miss the first few words you say. It also takes about 5 words voice-to-text, then just simply stops taking/writing anymore words. You have to cancel and hit the microphone icon again to get it another 5 words , wash rinse repeat. The touchscreen tends to be unresponsive. It's gotten a bit better since the last patch, but it's still not great. It would have been nice if the fingerprint scanner doubled as a home button like LG does. Finding a case for the Essential Phone was a nightmare, but they're pretty easy to find now. The phone SHOULD BE one of the fastest phones on the market, but instead it's laggy. And one of the biggest reasons to get the Essential Phone -- clip on modules -- is kindof a nothingburger at this point. Honestly, I wish I could have held out for an LG V30+, but it wasn't out yet.
i'm also hesitating...
Just to chime in I got this coming from the pixel, not XL. I really like this phone, especially on the 8.1 beta. Its a great little handset, feels awesome, much better battery than anything Google has, and very snappy. I also had wicked issues flashing anything on my pixel. No trouble so far with the essential for me.
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Just to chime in I got this coming from the pixel, not XL. I really like this phone, especially on the 8.1 beta. Its a great little handset, feels awesome, much better battery than anything Google has, and very snappy. I also had wicked issues flashing anything on my pixel. No trouble so far with the essential for me.
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What do you think about the photo and video?
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Despite all the negative press, the pictures aren't bad. Their not as good as the pixel, true, but I don't use a phone as my main source for high quality pictures. I know many folks do simply because they always have their phone on them. The bottom line is, no one is going to look at a picture you took with this phone and think, "ew, did your 5-year old draw that?" It works just fine.
I heard about this phone early this year did some research and decided to buy it from Amazon on Jan 24th. I came from a Galaxy S6 and it was a good phone (battery was getting bad) but this phone is head and shoulders better! Especially now that we are running the Oreo B8.1! It is super stable and smooth much more than my old Galaxy S6. I was thinking of trying the Oneplus 5t or maybe the new Huawei Mate 10 pro but I am not sure I will be any happier. Never had the Pixel or 2 If they looked this good I'd buy tomorrow!
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with gcam its very good but very bad stabilization for videos
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with gcam its very good but very bad stabilization for videos
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What app has good stabilization?
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