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[Q] HOX or SGS3

So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?

Both phones will be just as fast as each other, if you ask me. The only difference is the 2gb of RAM.
But let me say this again. 2gb of RAM is unecessary for a mobile platform like Android. Not bad, but unnecessary. The only reason why Samsung put the 2gb of RAM in it is to market it as a better feature, as it can't market the processor as the average public sees dual core as average right now. 2gb of RAM is appealing to the average consumer, but for us, we know it really won't do much in terms of processing power on Android.
This is how I see it:
You want a cheap and ugly device? Get the SGIII
You want a beutiful device? Get the HOX
I don't mean to sound biased, but I'm coming from the GSII and I loved it because it was fast. Not because of the quality, but because of the speed. The fact was that I was sick of Samsungs crappy build quality; it just doesn't feel right. Thats why I jumped ship to HTC and let me say that I am very impressed.
And now that we have bootloader unlock, theres none of that "HTC sucks a$$" because even though they do in terms of giving in to AT&T's demands, firstly theres no saying that they won't do the same for the GSIII and that we won't be seeing a lot of development.
In terms of the removable battery and SD card slot, niehter of those are a problem for me. SD Card = Only if you go crazy with storing stuff. Removable battery = You won't be able to run down the battery life on this thing easily.
In my opinion, the One X is the superior device. But really, it comes down to what you want.
And don't let that whole multitasking issue fool you for the HOX. It will be remidied soon with an AOSP build of ICS.

I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.

SilentLunatic said:
I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.
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Unroot is easy....if you unlocked the bootloader there's nothing you can do about that. It will say either unlocked or relocked.

its using the same s4 chip, same phone, just more ram?

Not giving up on my One X, but more ram would be very beneficial for the One X. Sense is killing this phone. Although I'd like to have an AOKP or CM9 build....sense is nice.
And what happened with Google saying that they were gonna require all ICS phones to have the ability to run stock Holo. Did someone make that up or did Google go back on it?

One x.
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Saying this since no one else has. The android 4.0 OS uses ram like windows. For android its beneficial has it makes opening apps quicker. Hence why a lot of ram is being used. Technically the gsIII will show roughly 1.5 gigs for use for the system since 400 MB will be for the GPU another 100-300 for UI rest for apps.
So far 2gb ram is a good thing. But, not always is more good. More ram equals more power equals less battery life especially if its unused. Even the heaviest user won't use more than a gig of it.
Basically how you see free ram on the HOX will be the same on the GSIII. Also The GSIII needs that ram to run all the little animations for touchwiz. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority is allocates just for SVoice and TW.
IMHO, the GSIII is step backward from forward innovation of Android 4.0. Since it wasn't deisgned for 2gb ram. The S4 is but looking at its specs 5% more power is used to run the read write to that extra gig.
Look at the power specs. Do it by match. There's less battery time to power to usage ratio on the GSIII with the ram and the amoled then with the HOX
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Guster730 said:
So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?
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If the international version had a screen as nice as our One X, I would get it in a heart beat. The Pentile is the major killer for the SGS3. Secondary to that is the design, the phone looks like something old and weak. The fact that the stateside versions got an S4 just like One X, the SGS3 just became worthless to me. The 2Gb of ram is not enough to make up for the flaws of the SGS3.
With the Exynos processor and true RGB display. I would be on the International SGS3 forums instead of One X.

From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.

redpoint73 said:
From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.
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I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.

I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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Guster730 said:
I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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The display on the HOX has been called the best display anyone has seen on any phone period. The Verge did a review of the SGS 3 and said that the display on the HOX is better.
IMHO the US version of the SGS 3 is the same as the AT&T HOX only with more internal RAM, an SD Card and slightly better camera.
I'm not returning my HOX.

Guster730 said:
I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.

i would definitely return the HOX if I still had that choice. The SG3 has better features and does not appear to be as crippled in terms of future software development.

robstunner said:
I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.
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Interesting, but partially true. I found an article on this below. Apparently the same sensor as the iPhone, but different optics. Sensor and optics are not the same thing. Sensor is the electronic portion, optics is the glass lens.
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-has-same-camera-sensor-as-iphone-4s
Don't have time to look for it now, but a review I read of the GS3 described it as having a "last gen" sensor and same as previous Galaxy devices. Apparently this is not true, and the teardown definitely shows what the hardware is.
EDIT: Here's the article that called the sensor "last gen":
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-1078667/review/page:9#articleContent

Sorry, I just don't see it. The only things the SG3 has over the HOX is removable storage (not a big deal for me) and maybe the 2GB of ram. Other than that I think the HOX is superior in every other way.
Also for those of us who actually care about design and how your phone actually looks, there simply is no comparison there, the HOX was clearly designed and the SG3 seems very average in terms of looks and the wording of their colors like "pebble" blue, won't save them there.

Tinyboss said:
I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.
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IMO the major difference between the screens is the resolution, though. I don't really see a lack of "pentileness". I think the thing is just that S1 and S2 looked horrible because of their low resolutions, regardless of pentile display. People see a Samsung phone with a higher resolution finally, and don't know what to do about it. Pentile is still there just as much as before.
As for the 2 GB of RAM, if you want to degrade your battery power for unnecessary RAM, go for it.
I'm not going to be dumb and say the SGS3 is a bad phone, but both phones are so close it's going to come down to personal preference for many. The way I see it, the benefits to the SGS3 are an SD card slot and removable battery, while the HOX sports a nicer display and is arguably "better looking" (obviously looks are subjective, but I've heard way more people rave about the looks of the HOX, and I've yet to hear anyone say they DON'T like the way it looks... have heard a lot of people say they don't like the look of the SGS3, and I agree that it is underwhelming at the very least, especially considering all the hype).
So, if you can live with using the cloud for storage, and don't have an issue with appx 15-16 hrs of battery life under normal usage with around 4 hrs of screen time on avg, then HOX is probably the better choice. If you need to be able to store backups of 4 ROMs on your phone and don't trust cloud networking or just don't have a good internet connection in most places, or expect to play games on your phone all day long and swap batteries without skipping a beat, or if you just plain feel that the SGS3 looks better, then SGS3 is clearly the better option for you.

I'm kind've leaning towards the SGS 3 and returning my One X (have 3 more days for the return window) based off of battery life alone. I can not get more than 2.5 hours of on screen time, and it usually averages around 2 hours max on screen time before it's dead. I've been on stock...1.83 stock...and 1.83 Clean Rom. Battery life hasn't changed between any of the roms. This is with screen brightness set to auto, but that is a requirement for me. I hear the SGS 3 really has some great battery life. If I could get 4 hours of on screen time on my One X it would be no competition but I'm only seeing HALF of that battery life...not very good.
Anyone have some recommendations? I've ran Battery stats and cpu spy and it's sleeping like normal. best performance wifi is off. The screen seems to be taking up the most power, but if I can't keep it on auto and get more than 2 hours of on screen time I'm not sure I'll be keeping the phone.

I am probably returning my HOX as well. The PHONE portion of the HOX is just poor compared to my last two phones (atrix,3gs) in regards signal, voice quality, and speakerphone. The clincher was when my wife noticed it.
That is probably the weakest thing about the phone. I also see this phone being a red headed step child with devs, due mostly to the availability issues. I'm new to HTC and i can say I don't care much for sense. It does not seem very well thought out. It just does not flow for me and comes off awkward.
I think HOX is a good device but the phone issues are inexcusable for me. Everything I've seen about touchwiz i like over Sense which just feels messy.
S3
+ better battery
+ better phone quality
+ easily replace battery when worn out
+ better dev support
- worse screen
- slightly less attractive case
ONEx
+ better screen
- poor phone quality

This or the S3, please help me decide

Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys!

Tegra is more than cape able
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y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX

Come one One X board, Bump!

I just got the S III. I compared it to the One S (different than the One X I know) and was disappointed in the HTC. Not having a memoir card slot was a deal breaker.
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muid02 said:
y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX
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When using the phone the majority of power is used on the screen, so I can't see how any update can make the screen use less power unless it turns it down to such a low brightness it can hardly be seen, and you can do that yourself without waiting for new software. Waiting for an OTA that is suddenly going to make the battery last a lot longer is going to be a long wait. Yes it might get tweaked to give a few more minutes here or there, or contain fixed software bugs that was causing the phone to draw too much power in standby, but it can only do so much.
You can get attachable battery backs for the HTC One X now which will greatly extend the runtime, but it will make the phone physically larger.
If you can't live with the HTC One X battery runtime, stop contemplating it and get the S3. If there is something you don't like about the S3 which makes you favour the HTC One X, then sometimes you have to have accept one limitation over the over and just make a decision.
Regards
Phil

I have had the S3 for a week and love the phone. However I am switching back to my international one x. The biggest reason for me is connectivity and I miss the screen on the one x. The screen on the S3 is nice, but when you put it side by side with the one x the one x just pops. Samsung incorporated a lot of very nice software customization however the one x feels a bit more refined. Both are dynamite phones, I do find that the one x drops calls much less than my S3 which has become very frustrating to me.
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If you are looking for a phone that is completely lag free out of the box go for the s3.

IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Joshua3109 said:
Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
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Battery depends on how to use it. Since you're going to unlock the phone there are lot of stuff you can do to improve the battery life. I can easily get 3.5 to 4 hours of screen time and last more than a day. The standby time of One X is great.
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
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Now we have achieved GPU overclock so gaming performance will improve much more than before. I'm a minimalistic lover so lesser widgets and apps never had any lags. When comparing with the leaked firmware the UI is butter smooth and we have a lot of tweaks to make it even better.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
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It again depends on how you use it. We have tweaked the auto brightness values to even lesser to improve the battery so Yes it's better.
[/QUOTE]Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys![/QUOTE]
We are atleast 7 to 8 custom ROM's, 3 different variants of CM9 and AOKP, then MIUI as already have a early port of JB. So I can proudly we have best set of developers here :good:
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hapticc said:
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Dude what's up with the caps ... Caps mean your yelling at the OP

Edit: multi quote didn't work out that well.
Good points made, I'd like to add that battery life of both phones is nearly the same, sIII has an edge by a margin. Danes goes for benchmarks.
I was chatting with this friend of mine who just got an SIII, he was whining about the battery life after having his brightness at lowest and sync off.
Developer support is great like ShyamSasi mentioned.
Choose after keeping in mind what's more important to you
1)Design
2)removable battery
3)expandable memory
4)sense vs touchwiz
5)tegra powered games
6)amoled vs slcd2?
hapticc said:
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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What's with the caps lock?
Body like hot curvy babes xD lol!
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Go into a store with both the S3 and the one x and try them. I prefer the one x personally because it looks nicer, the screen is far better and in my opinion htc sense > touchwiz. But you might think differently so id recommend trying them out.

Got to play with a white GSIII alongside a white HOX yesterday (mine is grey).
Here are my two cents:
Looks
Visually, there's just no comparison between the two. On comparing the two devices side by side, HOX smokes SIII. Even all my friends who were with me thought the same. HOX looks infinitely better than GSIII.
Performance and Processors
Performance wise, the Exynos on the GSIII is a tad faster than the Tegra3 on the HOX, but honestly with such a high processing power, the differences in performance will be negligible, if at all visible.
One thing worth considering here is that with Tegra3, you get the advantage of a lot of great games that are optimized for it and offer a much better visual experience than on other processors.
Display
Now the display. Both are very high resolution, but the one on the SIII is a pentile one and is AMOLED. Now I know that the ppi on both are extremely high, but to the eyes of a discerning user, the difference in sharpness is visible. The display on the HOX looks sharper.
Some people prefer amoled, others prefer LCD. Personally, I find the colors to be a little too "punchy" on AMOLEDs. But you may have a different preference. Try playing with it before making a decision.
Now to the most important part and the reason most of us are here:
Custom ROMs
S-OFF hasn't yet been achieved by the HOX community, and that makes flashing custom ROMs a tad more tedious. Flashing custom ROMs on SAMMY devices is generally more hassle free.
Quality wise, the HOX community has some truly amazing devs and the ROM scene is very exciting.
User Experience
In the end, both of these are amazing devices. Play with both of them and decide which one you like better. TouchWiz vs. Sense is another very subjective topic and you'll have to judge on your own. But if you're planning on running AOSP, they don't really make a difference.
Camera
Haven't tested the camera on the GSIII, but I'm sure it's amazing. But so is the one on HOX. I think you could pick either one of them without really looking into this. If you're looking for serious photography however, I'd suggest you look for a good DSLR instead.

Guys thanks so much for the awesome replies! No S-off, oh no I don't like that; the S3 has S-off I'm assuming?
I think I am leaning towards the S3 though; the removable battery is making the difference for me. Also, coming from a laggy Sensation I want all the processing power I can get to avoid any lag in the future; I hate lag!

Both phones have a quad core processors. Idk why anyone even says theres possible lag on quad core phones. The Samsung has an amoled screen which means any white pictures or anything white that pops up drains battery amazingly faster. Sense 4 is rock solid and just flows good. Touchwiz is all over the place with cool features that you'll probably forget you have eventually. I feel like the gs3 to the gs2 is like the iphone4s to the 4. Its just a better looking gs2 with more **** on there., but unorganized. The galaxy s 4 will definitely be amazing because Samsung vowed to work on their software more than anything.
Battery wise, the gs3 seems like it takes up more resources than the one x because the u.s version has an extra gig of ram. My friends gs3 from att has **** battery life compared to my one x variant.
HTC is also obviously the underdog in phone sales so it would make sense that they would put more effort in building a high quality phone, which they clearly did. Samsung knows there on top so they overly marketed their phone everywhere and now its really popular, still top notch, but it was released before it was perfected.
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I came from a i9100. I sold it before the i9300 came out so I could get more for it. I got a One X but planned on selling it once the SGS3 was released. I used a S4 SGS3 in Japan for two days and decided to keep the One X. There are 162 pages of debate on the SGS3 forum discussing both phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
Here's why I kept the One X vs. getting a SGS3 as posted in that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27663514&postcount=1525
Keep in mind that the first 2/3's of that comparison thread was written before the SGS3 came out when people were comparing a utopian vision vs. the One X which had been out for a few months. Things have changed because the SGS3 has its share of issues. Most center on the display (defects, dimness), available RAM (the S-Crap reserves a large amount of memory), battery drain (wakelock issues), fragility (the edge-to-edge glass panel breaks easily), and QC (bezels cracked, hyperglaze defects, and the physical home button being recessed instead of raised).
At least to me, the One X's most outstanding feature is its display. I wasn't impressed with the SGS3's; especailly side-by-side. Displaymate is a professional display testing and evaluation company. They wrote up a review of the SGS3's display. It's not too flattering.
http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Galaxy_S123_ShootOut_1.htm
The One X was rushed to market by HTC, probably to get there ahead of Samsung and the SGS3. There were build issues, s/w and driver bugs, and some h/w problems. The launch didn't go exceptionally well. Some issues still exist but the chatter's died down considerably so you can assume things have improved as more phones have been built.
If you look at the way the One X is put together, the "phone" is a single unit and slides in to the single-piece polycarbonate body. Tolerances are pretty tight and probably difficult to achieve in mass assembly. The biggest issue is a Wi-Fi fault created when the connectors on the body aren't correctly aligned with the antennas on the shell during assembly. The connectors use dynamic tension so compressing the back of the phone can also affect Wi-Fi performance. Based on a rough tally, 200-400 owners on the forum are affected against a total of about 5K. The "fix" put in place by HTC are spacers to keep the back from being compressed. Where the connectors are isn't an area likely to be compressed (unless someone intentionally compresses it) and the fix is more of a safeguard. The design itself hasn't been changed and the majority of phones aren't affected. I'm sure HTC's adjusted the assembly process either through better training or new methods of getting the phone body in to the shell. HTC phones have their build month identified in their serial number. The "3" in XX23 means March and so on. I have a early-build HT23 and it's been pretty much flawless in every way so not all early-build phones had problems. A poll that was run with 1K people voting where the question was asked “is your One X perfect?”, 70% said yes. As in anything mass produced, later versions tend to have better tolerances through tuning of the build process over time.
There's been a leak of a pretty substantial update to the One X that's due out soon. It moves the phone to 4.0.4, improves battery life, performance and benchmarks, enhances the browser, and addresses a lot of little issues that bugged people. Read that thread and it'll give you an idea of what to expect.
Keep in mind that if you intend to root your phone you'll be completely giving up your warranty on the One X where Samsung's still pretty liberal. More people need to take that in to consideration before they buy the One X.
Overall, I'm happy and there's no phone out there right now I'd rather have. Friends I've recommended the phone to are happy also. Good luck with your decision.

@Op, did you duplicate the same thread in S III forum because that's not allowed neither by forum rules but
the most fair thing don't you think? Otherwise you should have used general section.
I'm a pain I know but reading the forum rules or use your common sense is probably a pain too.
Another 'SPOON FEED' thread, aargh !!!
Look how many threads about the same subject exist, '2 sec using the >>> SEARCH BUTTON'
@Moderators,
Thanks for moving thread. :good:

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Trying to decide between S4 HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro

These seem like the three hottest phones right now, and i know i throw this up in the S4 forum so i am sure to get a bit biased replies, i am curious about comparing all 3.
To me it seems like the One has better sound quality and screen, the S4 supposedly has a bit better speeds (and probably best development) and the OGP has biggest screen size.
I don't love the interface design on the One, specifically no menu button or ability to see recently used apps, could be a deal breaker on it's own. The LG phone is an interesting one...seems like a nicely designed phone, and if you don't really have a need for most of Samsung's zany apps and stuff, it might be a great phone. Biggest problem i am worried about is - lack of development. I got burned on an OG Note when the Note 2 arrived and Samsung basically moved on, never to release an official JB version. I would hate to buy into another great phone only to get burned by lack of a following or something.
I'm sure anyone would be happy as a clam with any of these three bad boys, but anyone have an opinion when comparing them first hand?

Dillsnik said:
These seem like the three hottest phones right now, and i know i throw this up in the S4 forum so i am sure to get a bit biased replies, i am curious about comparing all 3.
To me it seems like the One has better sound quality and screen, the S4 supposedly has a bit better speeds (and probably best development) and the OGP has biggest screen size.
I don't love the interface design on the One, specifically no menu button or ability to see recently used apps, could be a deal breaker on it's own. The LG phone is an interesting one...seems like a nicely designed phone, and if you don't really have a need for most of Samsung's zany apps and stuff, it might be a great phone. Biggest problem i am worried about is - lack of development. I got burned on an OG Note when the Note 2 arrived and Samsung basically moved on, never to release an official JB version. I would hate to buy into another great phone only to get burned by lack of a following or something.
I'm sure anyone would be happy as a clam with any of these three bad boys, but anyone have an opinion when comparing them first hand?
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I owned the One for a week and switched it for GS4. The Audio on the One sounds better(double front facing stereo speakers > single backfacing speaker) although the volume is about the same, and the screen is brighter, However the 4MP camera couldn't get enough detail for me and the photos looks really fuzzy on my 1440p screen. The AMOLED screen on the GS4 is beautiful and not too bad in sunlight either(One'LCD is better under the sun, but not much better).
Another benefit of GS4 is that the battery life is significantly better than the One, even when I run the GS4 at max brightness(Dynamic Mode) at all times,

Haven't used an Optimus G Pro, but I have both the One and S4. You're right about the button placement on the HTC, it's infuriating. There are custom kernels that allow you to sweep the capacitive buttons or hold the HTC logo to wake and sleep the phone, but they don't work as reliably as I'd like. The S4 is much better in that sense, in my opinion anyways. I prefer the screen on the HTC. I do a lot of Web browsing and I find it's much easier on the eyes. I've done a factory reset, turned off animations, and disabled S-Voice, but my S4 is noticeably more laggy than the HTC. It's actually shockingly laggy given the hardware. I don't take a ton of pictures, but when I do it's almost always in good lightning conditions, so for me the S4 camera trounces the camera on the HTC.
At this point you honestly can't really go wrong. Battery life is similar for my usage, maybe marginally better on the S4. If you can live with 32gb of storage (realistically about 26gb) I'd go for the HTC.
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I used the Optimus G Pro (OGP) for 2 days before exchanging for a GS4. I exchanged because the battery life on the Optimus G pro was horrible. I had a NOTE II before and that battery would go all day & some. The screen did get a little brighter than the Galaxy S4, but that was the only benefit for me. I changed because of the battery drain, the lack of assessories, and the predicted lack of development. Both have locked bootloaders, but I figured I would get that unlocked sooner on the GS4 and have more ROMS available to me. I did like the customizable options included with the OGP, but I would choose the GS4 over it again if I had a chance.

I have all 3 phones. I use the LG Optimus G Pro as a daily driver at this point as my sgs4 lags big time and battery life sucks. My batter life on LG Optimus G Pro is very good and I have a note 2. I can go two days with heavy usage no issues. The screen is the best on LG Optimus G Pro compared to HTC one and sgs4.
HTC one build, look and feel is the best it is the iPhone of the android world. However I had the capacitive buttons they suck. The sound is better then any phone out there and I think screen looks good but battery life sucks. Will have decent dev support and comes in 64 or 32gb. No removable battery or sd card.
Sgs4 has nice big screen, 16gb storage total crap as 9gb is only use bale, you can get 32gb now. Cheap plastic build feels worst from all 3 phones. The phone is not as smooth as HTC one or LG Optimus G Pro unless you use a custom rom like CM. The size and screen is perfect if you want a bigger screen but not a big phone. Will have decent dev support. Removable battery and sd card slot.
Lg Optimus G Pro comes in 32gb with micro sd and Removable battery. Has best screen from all phones I have. It is super fast and battery is great. Boot loader is locked with no info if it will ever be unlocked so development is none at this point. Screen is 5.5 and 1080p. I like note 2 so this is a direct replacement for it until note 3 comes out. The phone is actually lighter and not as wide as note 2 so easier to hold single handed.
Hope this helps.
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Galaxy s4 Octa is better than all others... GRAPHIC CPU SCREEEN RAM MEMORY DDR2 ETC ETC
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Galaxy s4 Octa is better than all others... GRAPHIC CPU SCREEEN RAM MEMORY DDR2 ETC ETC
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To bad it's not lte and costs a lot in US to folks like negri or expansys but yeah I agree the intl sgs4 is better always is the case with samsung they give us in US the crap version.
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Of you are looking for development then the answer is simple, GS4. Reason being is Google is releasing an S4 with stock Android and it is supported by Google, not Samsung. We should have the best of both worlds. Pretty easy decision if you ask me
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Have all three, imo its S4, G Pro, One in that order. Ever since development took off for the S4 and the lag was removed, S4 hands down is the best phone on the market (again, imo)...Optimus G Pro was a huge surprise as its an EXCELLENT phone with a great screen and decent battery (nowhere near as good as Note 2, right on par with S4)...the only issues I have with G Pro is reversed capacitive buttons and the screen is impossible to see outdoors, which is when I simply grab my S4 and go...the One is a great phone, I just got too used to physical home button and multi-tasking (through multi-window or Q Slide), plus I really, REALLY don't care for Sense in any of its iterations...G Pro volume is low even with an aux cable in my car, but fine with Bluetooth, S4 is loud, and One is loud. Clearly One wins design, but if functionality is what you want, I'd go with S4 and G Pro every time.
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Of you are looking for development then the answer is simple, GS4. Reason being is Google is releasing an S4 with stock Android and it is supported by Google, not Samsung. We should have the best of both worlds. Pretty easy decision if you ask me
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HTC one is also releasing a Google edition this summer so choice is narrowed down again.
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I was another one of those guys on the fence between these three phones. Ended up ruling out the LG for two reasons: I can't stand the gov't issue LG phones they gave us to use at work and I really don't think I can handle lugging around a phone with a 5.5" screen in my uniform all day.
So that put me between the One and S4. While the one is favored for its front-facing speakers and LCD3 screen, it features no removable storage or user-accessible parts. Have a failed battery? Too bad, need to replace your entire phone. Need more space? Too bad, you only get what's on it (even though 64GB isn't too shabby). So, yes, the One is basically the iPhone of the Android world that just so happens to already have a decent amount of development now, but what will it be like when HTC moves on to whatever new phone it chooses to support? Those of us who owned an Evo knows exactly what I'm talking about.
That being said, the consumer-level development on the One is impressive. They've managed to remove the menu bar for apps that aren't ICS-compliant (Viper will, for one) and allowed you to finally bring the clock speeds back up to be comparable to (if not better than...at your own risk) the S4.
I will personally stick with the S4. There's always a bigger push for development for Samsung's phones, they tend to have better resale potential, and I will actually benefit from a user-accessible battery and SD card storage. Since the S4's SD slot is SDXC-compatible, should they manage to find an ability to have a cards' size in excess of 64GB, you've got MONSTER potential for storage.
One more vote for the S4, and not one from a Samsung fanboy. I was reluctant to decide on it after my Epic 4G was an Epic FAIL, but I feel it's the superior phone for me.

I would opt for the Samsung Galaxy S4 just because there is more development in it other then the other two phones. Also IMO the phone is much easier to use and has a smaller learning curve then the HTC One. The lag on the S4 truly sucks but for some reason I feel the lag is going away with time or as apps update so maybe the problem is getting taken care of. I primary feel the lag when receiving text messages. I use the iPhone as my benchmark for software and smoothness and the Galaxy Note 2 was the closest android phone to iPhone in terms of stability lack of lag and reliability. I thought samsung was taking things in the right direction but I feel they took a step back with the S4. Hopefully they redeem themselves!

For me, it came down to how I was going to use the device. Rarely do I play games or watch movies/tv on my phone, so why would I need front facing speakers anyway? I have a bluetooth stereo speaker if I want to listed to music with friends (jawbone). The ability to replace the battery, sd-card, and the lack of a MENU button pushed me over the top for the ONE. With the LG, it ended up just plain being too large, I have enough tablets in my life. The S4 actually isn't that big, the screen is just bigger because there's a smaller bezel. That left me with one choice, the S4, as much as I hate the rounded corners and plastic feel, the first thing we all do is put a case on it anyway.

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HTC one is also releasing a Google edition this summer so choice is narrowed down again.
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Really? Cause there's no proof of that rumor. HTC denied it anyways so yeah.
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I would opt for the Samsung Galaxy S4 just because there is more development in it other then the other two phones. Also IMO the phone is much easier to use and has a smaller learning curve then the HTC One. The lag on the S4 truly sucks but for some reason I feel the lag is going away with time or as apps update so maybe the problem is getting taken care of. I primary feel the lag when receiving text messages. I use the iPhone as my benchmark for software and smoothness and the Galaxy Note 2 was the closest android phone to iPhone in terms of stability lack of lag and reliability. I thought samsung was taking things in the right direction but I feel they took a step back with the S4. Hopefully they redeem themselves!
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The note 2 was laggy as first too. It'll be fixed.
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S4 is a piss poor release from Samsung. Let's all get our fanboy hats off for a minute. It will be a good phone do to custom roms and devs supporting like CM. People jumped all over apple for releasing iPhone 5 which was similar to iPhone 4s. Samsung copied and did same thing with s4 compared to s3. Note 2 was stable and lack free from day one I had it and used it every day from first day of release until sgs4 was released. I do have an sgs4 and samsung could have done much better.

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S4 is a piss poor release from Samsung. Let's all get our fanboy hats off for a minute. It will be a good phone do to custom roms and devs supporting like CM. People jumped all over apple for releasing iPhone 5 which was similar to iPhone 4s. Samsung copied and did same thing with s4 compared to s3. Note 2 was stable and lack free from day one I had it and used it every day from first day of release until sgs4 was released. I do have an sgs4 and samsung could have done much better.
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The gs4 and gs3 was a pretty decent jump. you talk about it so negatively... why do you have it
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jetlitheone said:
The gs4 and gs3 was a pretty decent jump. you talk about it so negatively... why do you have it
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I have all the newest phones but I also am unbiased and don't stick to one brand or phone and call it like it is. With time and with custom roms sgs4 will be good. It is not my daily driver until cm10.1 comes out for it.

It just blows my mind how Samsung got it so right with the Galaxy Note 2 and couldn't replicate it with the Galaxy s4. I would assume all they had to do was take a product or software that was one of their best and improve it but instead they made it worse. I am really hoping for an update to be released soon to fix many of the software glitches. I am also wondering if this is more of an American galaxy s4 problem that's the international version does not suffer from or A cross-platform problem. But other than the occasional lagginess the Galaxy s4 blows away the competition.

sabre31 said:
I have all the newest phones but I also am unbiased and don't stick to one brand or phone and call it like it is. With time and with custom roms sgs4 will be good. It is not my daily driver until cm10.1 comes out for it.
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Same for me. I had the One IPhone 5 and the galaxy note 2 and this is my favorite by far. The lag isn't too bad at all especially with custom kernels and such. Why use cyanogenmod with this though?
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jetlitheone said:
Same for me. I had the One IPhone 5 and the galaxy note 2 and this is my favorite by far. The lag isn't too bad at all especially with custom kernels and such. Why use cyanogenmod with this though?
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To be honest my phone is really lagging I may have a bad unit to be honest I am hoping cm10 will fix this or some custom tw rom. But phone is perfect screen size and size for phone.
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Any regrets?

Any one coming from an S4 regrets getting the nexus 5?

None! It was my biggest worry but I defnintely don't regret it. I love not having all the bloat that the S4 had. Even with a smaller battery, I'm getting better battery results than I ever did on the S4 as well. I honestly don't see a difference in the camera either.
My absolute biggest worry was losing all the space. Coming from a phone with a 64gb external sd card worried me a lot, but I finally gave in and subscribed the the Google Music service and I couldn't be happier.
Once all the ROM's fix the Sprint data issue, this phone will be even better, but I have no regrets.

Coming from an S4 too, gods I hated that phone, the bloatware, the knox (introduced after I bought it).
The battery life i find is better on my Nexus 5, seem strange but it's true, it waste very little battery power when on stand by.
The only thing I miss of the S4 is the camera. the Nexus' one is a clear step back, but I don't mind really I don't take many photos.

now i currently have an htc one with a cracked screen and i want to replace it.. Im an att user and well can get the s4 for like $150 but can always sell it buy the nexus and still have money left.. But one of the main issues i had with the HTC one is that no one! made accessories for it... like i was never able to find a waterproof cover, etc etc.. Im a bit worry that it will be the same with the nexus 5, that because it is not as popular it wont have many accessories

The only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen from my S3. It's a far better quality of colour reproduction. The N5 is a bit washed out.... but it is far sharper. Oh... and the camera SUCKS on the N5 in anything but perfect lighting conditions. I miss the shutter speed on the Samsungs. But this should be fixed in the next update.
Battery life isn't nearly as bad as I was lead to believe.

I like my S4 better. My S4 has better reception, I stripped off the extras I did not like. I currently have a 4.4 rom on my S4 so spare me the updates line, I unlocked it and added the TMobile band. What I hate about N5 is the body. Its a nightmare. Sharp edges where the glass meets plastic, the lens mount, power button is too high, feels cheap and feels horrible in my hand. As for price, with etf+tax+1st month, my S4 was only $30 more. Not much in savings
It's not a bad device once you get past the body, seems plenty fast, takes ok pics, battery life is ok. So it's not horrible and is starting it's life with top end hardware specs unlike the N4. It's just not for me. If it came in a similar body to the N4 or would have shaped the glass like the S3, it would have been a home run.

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The only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen from my S3. It's a far better quality of colour reproduction. The N5 is a bit washed out.... but it is far sharper. Oh... and the camera SUCKS on the N5 in anything but perfect lighting conditions. I miss the shutter speed on the Samsungs. But this should be fixed in the next update.
Battery life isn't nearly as bad as I was lead to believe.
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From the S3? I had 2 of those and came to this. Not even comparable. The N5 destroys the S3 in EVERY way. Low light pictures, sunny day pictures, the camera is better on the N5. The S3 is supersaturated and does not reproduce color accurately at all.

I've had a n4, s4 and now have n5. Think they are all brilliant phones. I think I can certainly feel the performance on the n5 though and I really like the screen. It has such an understated no frills look about it and that really appeals to me. I loved the s4 but it was a bit blingy for my liking and I didn't feel like it was so much as a blank canvas as what the nexus 5 is if that makes sense.
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Alo also trying to get into custom room and apps development... Is there any advantages on using the nexus instead of the samsung? I

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Any one coming from an S4 regrets getting the nexus 5?
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I'm on my 2nd day with the 5 coming from an S4 running and early CM build of Kit Kat. So far, the only thing I really miss about the S4 is the screen. I guess I'm used to that super saturated AMOLED display. The Nexus display is sharper but like some others have said, a little washed out looking by comparison. The Nexus is noticeably faster and the battery life is about the same which is impressive considering I had a 3000mah battery in the S4. I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins. The Nexus will be much more future proof than the S4. Getting new versions of Android on the Samsung will always be a bit hacky.

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I'm on my 2nd day with the 5 coming from an S4 running and early CM build of Kit Kat. So far, the only thing I really miss about the S4 is the screen. I guess I'm used to that super saturated AMOLED display. The Nexus display is sharper but like some others have said, a little washed out looking by comparison. The Nexus is noticeably faster and the battery life is about the same which is impressive considering I had a 3000mah battery in the S4. I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins. The Nexus will be much more future proof than the S4. Getting new versions of Android on the Samsung will always be a bit hacky.
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any issues running this phone on att? and how come only tmobile and sprint got it?

My S4 had better/stronger signal and a more HD intensive screen. I don't know how to explain it.
My N5 is faster definitely, but camera is kind of laggy though. The vibration motor is weaker, but still good.
Depends on budget, I'd go for a Note 3 over S4 for the price range.
But for $350, there is nothing better than the Nexus 5.

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I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins.
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I think this is a great comment. Coming from the Sprint S4, for some reason, the dev community never really sped up like I thought it would. Sure, there were some great ROM's, but it was pretty much between a couple Touchwiz ROM's and hoping that 3minit would work, or you had AOSP based ROM's where you were happy to have working data.
While working data on Sprint with some ROM's is an early challenge, it doesn't look like it will be an issue long term (there's already a flashable fix) and we already have a wide variety of ROM's available.
I definitely don't miss Touchwiz whatsoever.

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My S4 had better/stronger signal and a more HD intensive screen. I don't know how to explain it.
My N5 is faster definitely, but camera is kind of laggy though. The vibration motor is weaker, but still good.
Depends on budget, I'd go for a Note 3 over S4 for the price range.
But for $350, there is nothing better than the Nexus 5.
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Im eligible with att for upgrade, so i can get the S4 for like $150, either way ill get it... Then sell it and back the rest, while i care about dev, im more worried about accessories availability, like for example a waterproof cover, i take my phone alot in my boat, and its wet alot..

I am starting to have regrets as I'm having issues with push notifications that I can't resolve. I might end up having to return the phone for a refund. If that issue can be fixed though, then I would have no regrets at all. I think the Nexus 5 is an otherwise great phone.

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Im eligible with att for upgrade, so i can get the S4 for like $150, either way ill get it... Then sell it and back the rest, while i care about dev, im more worried about accessories availability, like for example a waterproof cover, i take my phone alot in my boat, and its wet alot..
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Funny you say that, because my first S4 was water damaged in a boating incident lol. it was deemed unrepairable by 5+ cell phone repair shops. So I purchased a Note 2 afterwards. Sold that and bought another S4. I loved that device too much. My device was then stolen so I had to use a old POS non-smartphone for 2 months. I couldn't see myself spending another $600+ to buy another S4. So I jumped on buying a nexus 5. I love the Nexus 5 now. 1080p 5inch screen quad core processor 2gb ram to name a few.

I have the n4 and s4 sitting next to me currently my s4 is on sprint while my n5 is on straight talk att. And I can tell you IMO that my n5 in ALL areas is better than both devices. One area that is extremely noticeable is the all around speed and smoothness of the n5 when compared to the other phones. Also typing and touch seems a lot more responsive on this device as well. Often times I would find typing on the s4 to be choppy and laggy and often couldn't keep up. And I am running the latest official 4.3 release from sprint all stock. Tried swapping keyboards too on it and its just not the same as the n5. I do a ton of multi tasking on my phone. And this is where the n5 really shines. I can jump between texting and surfing the web and checking emails without a single hitch. And I really love that. I have owned all the major Samsung phones and after the n4 I have been pretty much hooked on nexus devices. As for the camera I actually find it on par with my s4 a lot of people talk about shutter lag but I find the shutter speed to be about the same as it is on the s4. So not much of a difference there. And in a lot of my low light shots my n5 out performed my s4. So all around I am a pretty happy camper. Oh and service on at straight talk is so much better than sprint for me. I get consistent LTE everywhere.
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From reading the more in-depth reviews the Nexus 5 screen has some of the most accurate colours on an LCD beating out iPhone models even which are known for their calibration. It however does not have as high of a contrast ratio as even the LG G2 or the saturated colours AMOLED screens are known for. That mixed with the slightly smaller usable screen space when including the Home bar on the N5 would give the S4 the brighter and more stand out screen at first glance and on store shelves.
Myself I prefer accurate colours versus over saturated ones and only use high brightness settings when being used in direct sunlight. That being said after seeing AMOLED's "completely off" black levels (and the features it can bring such as Glance support and 24/7 Daydream) no black screen on IPS can ever look as dark.

I hated how weak the s4 would feel. I was afraid to put it in my pocket becausw it would break. And i hated the screen. You could see there were 2 0arts of the screen and the digitixer was glued under a piece of plastic. While with the nexus everything is so nice. I know in 4 months I will get bored of aosp roms and miss some tw features but whatever there is time till then.

i just found out that the S4 is at a very bad spot at the moment, if you have their latest baseband you cant use custom kernels, etc.. So that may lean me more towards the s5

M8 good enough to pull me away from '13 Moto X?

Currently have a Moto X Dev Edition, bought it back almost a year ago I believe. I like the phone but the camera sucks and the battery could be better. It's super slick and smooth, rarely have any issues with it except for Bluetooth from time to time. But I'm also already noticing a little bit of screen burn-in, and I'm not on my phone 24/7 either. I've always questioned Motorola's AMOLED screen quality, I had an S3 and S4 and those screens were great. Plus I miss having expandable memory so I don't have to stream all of my 20+ GB of music through Google Play Music...
Long story short, it's time to replace the X. I thought about the Turbo but the lack of voice/data usage, the marginally better camera, and reports of poor wifi reception are keeping me away, not to mention the brightness also is subpar. After having the S4 and all it's laggy problems, I said no more Samsung phones, but it seems the S5 is greatly improved. However I've always had my eye on the G3, seems like LG has stepped up their game. I also had the Rezound when it came out and it was probably one of the best phones I've owned, and I didn't know the M8 supported expandable memory, I thought it was built-in only. My choices right now are the One M8, S5, G3, and possibly the Note 4 but that's pushing the size limit a little bit. My only concern with the M8 is possibly battery life and the fact that it's a tall phone.
Thoughts?

Only down side of purchasing the m8 at this point is that it's been out quite awhile and the next version of this phone will be out shortly. Battery life is no concern as it does great. The camera is nothing to write home about so the g3 wins that battle. I don't like all the bezel on the m8. The screen size is rather small for how large the phone is. I've had a lot of different devices and it's been one of my favorites but its just hard to recommend a device getting close to being replaced with a newer version. If you have to have a phone right now I guess I'd say go check out the g3 and m8 in store and see what feels better to you. I wish the phone had a bigger display and a slimmer size but other than that is been a great device. The g3 does have a removable battery which is nice after six months or so once they start losing battery performance they can be replaced. I'm moving to the nexus 6 just waiting for my order to arrive.
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First off, I'll say that the camera on this phone is unfairly maligned just because it's only 4mp. Honestly, I've been very happy with it. Over Thanksgiving, my brother-in-law (who uses a 2013 Moto X) was blown away by how clear my photos were turning out compared to his. I'm pretty picky about cameras, and I've found very little to complain about with this phone.
I also owned the G3 for about a week before ultimately going back to the M8, and I gotta say, I really miss the larger screen. The overall quality of the G3's display isn't as good as the M8, but the size really makes a difference. One thing I don't miss about the G3 is how laggy it is compared to the M8. The G3's UI drops animation frames like it's going out of style, and it just doesn't feel as fast as it should. Then again, the M8 is easily the fastest-feeling device I've ever owned (even compared to the Nexus 5), so I guess I'm a little spoiled.
The M8 also has a much better in-hand feel in my opinion. One thing I couldn't stand about the G3 is how plasticky it feels.
That said, I'm still torn between the M8 and G3. I'll probably end up just sticking with the M8 for a while, but I'm seriously tempted to go back to the G3 just for the screen size if nothing else. Plus, based on videos I've seen, it looks like LG has mostly taken care of the G3's lag issues with the upcoming Lollipop update. So who knows what I'll end up doing.