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Any one coming from an S4 regrets getting the nexus 5?
None! It was my biggest worry but I defnintely don't regret it. I love not having all the bloat that the S4 had. Even with a smaller battery, I'm getting better battery results than I ever did on the S4 as well. I honestly don't see a difference in the camera either.
My absolute biggest worry was losing all the space. Coming from a phone with a 64gb external sd card worried me a lot, but I finally gave in and subscribed the the Google Music service and I couldn't be happier.
Once all the ROM's fix the Sprint data issue, this phone will be even better, but I have no regrets.
Coming from an S4 too, gods I hated that phone, the bloatware, the knox (introduced after I bought it).
The battery life i find is better on my Nexus 5, seem strange but it's true, it waste very little battery power when on stand by.
The only thing I miss of the S4 is the camera. the Nexus' one is a clear step back, but I don't mind really I don't take many photos.
now i currently have an htc one with a cracked screen and i want to replace it.. Im an att user and well can get the s4 for like $150 but can always sell it buy the nexus and still have money left.. But one of the main issues i had with the HTC one is that no one! made accessories for it... like i was never able to find a waterproof cover, etc etc.. Im a bit worry that it will be the same with the nexus 5, that because it is not as popular it wont have many accessories
The only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen from my S3. It's a far better quality of colour reproduction. The N5 is a bit washed out.... but it is far sharper. Oh... and the camera SUCKS on the N5 in anything but perfect lighting conditions. I miss the shutter speed on the Samsungs. But this should be fixed in the next update.
Battery life isn't nearly as bad as I was lead to believe.
I like my S4 better. My S4 has better reception, I stripped off the extras I did not like. I currently have a 4.4 rom on my S4 so spare me the updates line, I unlocked it and added the TMobile band. What I hate about N5 is the body. Its a nightmare. Sharp edges where the glass meets plastic, the lens mount, power button is too high, feels cheap and feels horrible in my hand. As for price, with etf+tax+1st month, my S4 was only $30 more. Not much in savings
It's not a bad device once you get past the body, seems plenty fast, takes ok pics, battery life is ok. So it's not horrible and is starting it's life with top end hardware specs unlike the N4. It's just not for me. If it came in a similar body to the N4 or would have shaped the glass like the S3, it would have been a home run.
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The only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen from my S3. It's a far better quality of colour reproduction. The N5 is a bit washed out.... but it is far sharper. Oh... and the camera SUCKS on the N5 in anything but perfect lighting conditions. I miss the shutter speed on the Samsungs. But this should be fixed in the next update.
Battery life isn't nearly as bad as I was lead to believe.
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From the S3? I had 2 of those and came to this. Not even comparable. The N5 destroys the S3 in EVERY way. Low light pictures, sunny day pictures, the camera is better on the N5. The S3 is supersaturated and does not reproduce color accurately at all.
I've had a n4, s4 and now have n5. Think they are all brilliant phones. I think I can certainly feel the performance on the n5 though and I really like the screen. It has such an understated no frills look about it and that really appeals to me. I loved the s4 but it was a bit blingy for my liking and I didn't feel like it was so much as a blank canvas as what the nexus 5 is if that makes sense.
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Alo also trying to get into custom room and apps development... Is there any advantages on using the nexus instead of the samsung? I
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Any one coming from an S4 regrets getting the nexus 5?
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I'm on my 2nd day with the 5 coming from an S4 running and early CM build of Kit Kat. So far, the only thing I really miss about the S4 is the screen. I guess I'm used to that super saturated AMOLED display. The Nexus display is sharper but like some others have said, a little washed out looking by comparison. The Nexus is noticeably faster and the battery life is about the same which is impressive considering I had a 3000mah battery in the S4. I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins. The Nexus will be much more future proof than the S4. Getting new versions of Android on the Samsung will always be a bit hacky.
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I'm on my 2nd day with the 5 coming from an S4 running and early CM build of Kit Kat. So far, the only thing I really miss about the S4 is the screen. I guess I'm used to that super saturated AMOLED display. The Nexus display is sharper but like some others have said, a little washed out looking by comparison. The Nexus is noticeably faster and the battery life is about the same which is impressive considering I had a 3000mah battery in the S4. I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins. The Nexus will be much more future proof than the S4. Getting new versions of Android on the Samsung will always be a bit hacky.
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any issues running this phone on att? and how come only tmobile and sprint got it?
My S4 had better/stronger signal and a more HD intensive screen. I don't know how to explain it.
My N5 is faster definitely, but camera is kind of laggy though. The vibration motor is weaker, but still good.
Depends on budget, I'd go for a Note 3 over S4 for the price range.
But for $350, there is nothing better than the Nexus 5.
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I think I'll be sticking with the 5 mostly for the dev community. I've always been a fan of straight AOSP and can't stand the OEM skins.
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I think this is a great comment. Coming from the Sprint S4, for some reason, the dev community never really sped up like I thought it would. Sure, there were some great ROM's, but it was pretty much between a couple Touchwiz ROM's and hoping that 3minit would work, or you had AOSP based ROM's where you were happy to have working data.
While working data on Sprint with some ROM's is an early challenge, it doesn't look like it will be an issue long term (there's already a flashable fix) and we already have a wide variety of ROM's available.
I definitely don't miss Touchwiz whatsoever.
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My S4 had better/stronger signal and a more HD intensive screen. I don't know how to explain it.
My N5 is faster definitely, but camera is kind of laggy though. The vibration motor is weaker, but still good.
Depends on budget, I'd go for a Note 3 over S4 for the price range.
But for $350, there is nothing better than the Nexus 5.
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Im eligible with att for upgrade, so i can get the S4 for like $150, either way ill get it... Then sell it and back the rest, while i care about dev, im more worried about accessories availability, like for example a waterproof cover, i take my phone alot in my boat, and its wet alot..
I am starting to have regrets as I'm having issues with push notifications that I can't resolve. I might end up having to return the phone for a refund. If that issue can be fixed though, then I would have no regrets at all. I think the Nexus 5 is an otherwise great phone.
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Im eligible with att for upgrade, so i can get the S4 for like $150, either way ill get it... Then sell it and back the rest, while i care about dev, im more worried about accessories availability, like for example a waterproof cover, i take my phone alot in my boat, and its wet alot..
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Funny you say that, because my first S4 was water damaged in a boating incident lol. it was deemed unrepairable by 5+ cell phone repair shops. So I purchased a Note 2 afterwards. Sold that and bought another S4. I loved that device too much. My device was then stolen so I had to use a old POS non-smartphone for 2 months. I couldn't see myself spending another $600+ to buy another S4. So I jumped on buying a nexus 5. I love the Nexus 5 now. 1080p 5inch screen quad core processor 2gb ram to name a few.
I have the n4 and s4 sitting next to me currently my s4 is on sprint while my n5 is on straight talk att. And I can tell you IMO that my n5 in ALL areas is better than both devices. One area that is extremely noticeable is the all around speed and smoothness of the n5 when compared to the other phones. Also typing and touch seems a lot more responsive on this device as well. Often times I would find typing on the s4 to be choppy and laggy and often couldn't keep up. And I am running the latest official 4.3 release from sprint all stock. Tried swapping keyboards too on it and its just not the same as the n5. I do a ton of multi tasking on my phone. And this is where the n5 really shines. I can jump between texting and surfing the web and checking emails without a single hitch. And I really love that. I have owned all the major Samsung phones and after the n4 I have been pretty much hooked on nexus devices. As for the camera I actually find it on par with my s4 a lot of people talk about shutter lag but I find the shutter speed to be about the same as it is on the s4. So not much of a difference there. And in a lot of my low light shots my n5 out performed my s4. So all around I am a pretty happy camper. Oh and service on at straight talk is so much better than sprint for me. I get consistent LTE everywhere.
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From reading the more in-depth reviews the Nexus 5 screen has some of the most accurate colours on an LCD beating out iPhone models even which are known for their calibration. It however does not have as high of a contrast ratio as even the LG G2 or the saturated colours AMOLED screens are known for. That mixed with the slightly smaller usable screen space when including the Home bar on the N5 would give the S4 the brighter and more stand out screen at first glance and on store shelves.
Myself I prefer accurate colours versus over saturated ones and only use high brightness settings when being used in direct sunlight. That being said after seeing AMOLED's "completely off" black levels (and the features it can bring such as Glance support and 24/7 Daydream) no black screen on IPS can ever look as dark.
I hated how weak the s4 would feel. I was afraid to put it in my pocket becausw it would break. And i hated the screen. You could see there were 2 0arts of the screen and the digitixer was glued under a piece of plastic. While with the nexus everything is so nice. I know in 4 months I will get bored of aosp roms and miss some tw features but whatever there is time till then.
i just found out that the S4 is at a very bad spot at the moment, if you have their latest baseband you cant use custom kernels, etc.. So that may lean me more towards the s5
Hey all,
An unfortunate accident with a flight of concrete stairs has pretty much destroyed my LG G3. It was a very nice device, but the size of it was a little too much I think. This was the second time it flew out of my hand because of the width of it. I'm a little paranoid about device size now, so I'm definitely looking to get something smaller than the G3.
I'm with Bell in Canada, so it will have to either be a device from their stock, or one that comes unlocked. Since my company will cover the cost for replacement, it needs to be a direct point of sale with a receipt.
My basic criteria right now are:
One handed use. Because of this, the size range that seems to make the most sense is 4.7-5.0 inch display.
Either a minimum of 32GB of built in storage, or 16GB + expandable storage. I don't tend to have a ton on my device, but I want room for apps and music.
Battery life should be decent. I don't need it to be super amazing. My useage is light to moderate, and anything that gets me through a work day is fine.
Anything else on top of that is gravy.
Right now, these are the devices I am looking at:
Samsung Galaxy Alpha: I really like the size and the feel in the hand. Very compact, and one handed use should be a breeze. My two issues though are Touchwiz (I just have never been a huge fan of how every thing is just crammed in) and the 720p pentile display. Ordinarily the display wouldn't be that big of a problem, but I'm worried as I'm coming from the G3 as my primary device.
HTC One M8: Build quality is really nice, and the UI feels lite and snappy. The concerns here are that it is a pretty big device overall. About the same height, though a decent bit wider. Not convinced that it's good for one handed use. Also, the camera is a sore spot, but admittedly I'm not a shutter bug.
Google Nexus 5: Clearly the Nexus 6 is out of the question because of the size, but the Nexus 5 still seems like a good phone. I like the look of it (especially the red model), and the size might be just about perfect. Having a quick update to Android 5 is a nice thing as well, as is the $300 or so savings on the device that my work will appreciate. The downside here is that the device is a year old now, and the specs are aging. It should still be very snappy, but will that change in a year from now?
Honestly, any advice that anyone has had with these devices, or any stories related to their use is greatly appreciated. I pretty much need to get/order the device this weekend, so there won't be the ability to wait for any new devices to creep out.
Thanks all!
Hi. I know this has been brought to question many, many times, but still, i'm having a hard time deciding. I got a Black Friday Code, which is valid until December 15. So i could get my hands on a Moto X (32gb) for around 420$. I've used the Moto X (2nd gen) and it's a beautiful phone. Feels premium in my hands and the screen and operating system is beautiful, Moto Voice is accurate and snappy, i loved the phone overall. On the other hand, there is this OnePlus One. 0.3 inches larger, but not sure if the proportion is the same (seems taller, but not wider, might be due to the capacitive buttons on the bottom). What i like about the OnePlus One better? - Capacitive Buttons, not a fan of of on-screen buttons, they take quite a chunk of my screen size. - Slightly large screen. (My note 3 suffered an accident, and its the phone i am looking to replace, i am used to the 5.5 inches, even if 0.3 difference inches is negligible, i can surely feel it between a 4.7 inch and a 5 inch phone). - Larger Battery. 'nuff said here. - 64 vs 32 GB Storage, neither of them has SD card slots, but 64G is huge for me.
"Higher" Levels of customization are irrelevant to me. I am a power user, and i've been around android since the times of the Motorola Milestone (Android Eclair 2.1) so i really like customization, but i could achieve that on a rooted Moto X and Xposed Modules and Such.
I am aware of some defective units being shipped, the yellow bleed on the bottom of the screen and the "already solved" black bar bug.
So question is, from you users, who have had both devices in hand, which one would you keep and why.
I am aware of the superior Customer Service by Motorola, but, is really the defective percentage of OnePlus One phones high? Is it really unstable to be your daily driver?
For me it comes to reliability vs power using. I wish both came in the same package, and they probably do, but surely outside my price range.
Thanks for your help!
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Because nobody wants them or because of the issues with the phone itself?
There really isn't a problem with this phone. You'll hear more complaints than praises, like anything. Battery life is a big thing for me. So I choose the one plus.
Go with the oneplus one man. Happy person over here, been having mines for 3 months and no issues other than some bugs from hardcore flashing...
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What ever blows your dress up. If you don't mind dumping the money for the X get it. If you want to save your money and still have a great phone get the 1+.
I have a Opo and considering the switch mostly for the software additions that Moto added. My wife just ordered one and once she gets hers I'll play with it and make a determination.
If I could make the decision again, it would be for the moto x... Yes, more expensive and a smaller screen, however at least I KNOW that I will be getting a quality unit with some level of manufacturer support... OPO said my dead pixel is normal and it shouldn't bother me that much... Do yourself a favor and get the moto x
Yeah, if you can afford it get moto x. And I been pretty happy with my One. But the warranty issues are concerning.
Thanks guys.
I asked myself the same question some time ago and I got the OPO.
I wanted yo try something different, and I'm pretty happy with my OPO, no problems at all.
My wife's Moto X arrived. It's a beautiful phone. The screen is (inaccurately) punchy. The added Moto software tweaks are pretty fantastic. The build is phenomenal. And it already has Lollipop. Performance is super snappy--noticeably better than the OPO.
Battery life, however, is a big step down from the OPO. And obviously it's more expensive. Camera looks to be about the same.
The One is really cool. I use mine since 6 months and it runs perfectly!
Comparison of specs: gsmarena .com /compare.php3?idPhone1=5601&idPhone2=6327
The OPO beats the MotoX hands down. I find the build quality to be really good, I love the soft back (Sandstone black edition) and metal strip running around the phone edges. Luckily, I haven't had any issues with the phone so can't say much about how helpful Oneplus is with warranty.
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My wife's Moto X arrived. It's a beautiful phone. The screen is (inaccurately) punchy. The added Moto software tweaks are pretty fantastic. The build is phenomenal. And it already has Lollipop. Performance is super snappy--noticeably better than the OPO.
Battery life, however, is a big step down from the OPO. And obviously it's more expensive. Camera looks to be about the same.
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My current daily driver is a Moto X Pure Edition. I'm in possession of a OPO for a little while (another strange story that I'll elaborate on later if anyone's interested) so I decided to do a little A-B comparison. I have to say that I am very impressed by the OPO. But as Stories pointed out, I too found the Moto X to be much snappier and responsive. This surprised me, a lot because they have identical processors, and the OPO has 3gb ram vs 2gb for the X. Am I missing something here? FWIW: the OPO is brand new, box stock, locked bootloader etc....
Edit: I'm not dissing the OPO, rather I'm looking for suggestions to close the gap with the X.
When I first receive the OPO the size a big bit hard getting use to coming from Nexus 5. But after a month with this phone it's hands down the best phone out there. Ridiculous battery life tons of support and developments. It's like a nexus 5 with double the battery life
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I'm kind of fighting with a similar issue; Nexus 6 or OPO. I have both and have been using the N6 as my daily driver for the past week and 1/2. Great phone, love the big screen, super fast even with encryption on. The OPO just keeps drawing me back, its really that good. If you go over to the N6 thread you will see the same kind of issues that you see in the OPO thread, so I always take that with a grain of salt, neither pf the phones had any issues at all.
Either of your choices are good ones for sure. The OPO has the best battery life I've used in the last 5-6 years, I came from a N5, HTC One. It boils down, for me anyway, what features do you want and who best can fulfill it.
Ultimately you have to make the choice, but honestly you can't go wrong with the OPO.
I have owned both devices and I would go OnePlus one simply because the battery life of the Moto X is just not good at all. It does get you through a work day but some days I need more juice and I have to charge the phone several times a day. I recently went to NY and I had to charge the phone 3 times that day. That sucks to me. If it wasn't for battery life then it'll be a harder choice. Oh yeah, if camera is something you really need then Moto X is a no no. Here are my pros and cons between both devices:
Moto X pros over One +1:
-Fits much better in hand
-Very stylish, customizable look
-Extremely fluid performance, zero lag
-front facing speaker are only bested by The boomsound speakers
-The Motorola features are the best features added to android
Cons:
-Mediocre battery life
- crappy camera
- very limited storage options
- Development is almost non existent
One +1 pros over Moto X:
- bigger display, more screen real estate
- Much better battery life
- Much better camera
- Development is pretty good
- more storage
- Price
Cons:
- warranty issues
- yellow tint issues on many panels
- HArd to purchase ( fixed?)
- CM has some bugs (fixable with roms)
The best way to compare devices is to pretend they came out the same day. The One Plus is a few months old but if it was released today alongside the Moto X, considering the price, specs, development, battery life, performance and all, honestly I think the OnePlus would be the best option IMO.
I had all moto phones and I bought the oneplus one and I am very happy. I had the droid maxx (newest version of the max line) and other moto/droid phones before the 1+ one I'm glad that in switched. I have acdisplay to get my active display. The only thing I miss is the twist to activate camera.
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Moto X pros over One +1:
-Fits much better in hand
-Very stylish, customizable look
-Extremely fluid performance, zero lag
-front facing speaker are only bested by The boomsound speakers
-The Motorola features are the best features added to android
Cons:
-Mediocre battery life
- crappy camera
- very limited storage options
- Development is almost non existent
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I have to agree with your assessment of both devices. The decision relative to which criteria are most important is obviously a personal one. Thanks for your input.
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A question for you. Do any of the custom ROMs available for the OPO significantly improve the responsiveness and fluidity, vs stock CM11S?
Don't get me wrong, I really do enjoy my LG G3. I cant help but to want the new HTC One M9. I was debating between the G3 and the M8 earlier during the year, but went with the G3 because of the better camera. The M9 camera should be up to par and the material they use are much better. What did you guys think of the phones released today? Im just curious and wanting to start a new conversation.
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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I agree having the bigger screen and less bezels was a nice addition... At first I didn't think having a bigger screen was not going to make much a difference, but I am a little worried, now, about thinking of going back to a smaller screen... Unless the G4 comes up with something that completely wows me I think I'll get the m9... Everything I look at the pics or videos of the m9 I drool, like eye candy lol...
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It is super sexy... That's for sure
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I had the M8 at launch. But could not get use to the bezel to screen ratio. And the HTC bottom band feels so unnecessary.
I'm liking the look of the S6's internals, and it's good to see Samsung making a return to chart-topping specs (well, except the battery life) after the G3 stole the spotlight last year and Samsung released the utterly mediocre S5. Of course I'm bummed about the non-removable battery and lack of an SD card, but it's about time that they made a more premium-feeling device. My S4 is the first smartphone that I've owned that "broke", with the chrome trim coming off everywhere (ew, white plastic), and enough flex that my power button got jammed in.
The M9 looks absolutely awful, not cosmetically, but specwise. No 1440p, (another) lacklustre camera (though not as bad as the ultrapixel trash they were using before), and they don't have the uprated RAM from the S4. Pretty much the only thing this has over the S6 is battery life, as I'm really skeptical whether the DDR4 and 14nm Exynos in the S6 will be really as efficient as they allege. After getting used to the LG's phenomenal (albeit dim and power-wasteful) screen, there's no way I'm backtracking, especially since one year of development should have improved battery efficiency.
I'm eager to see what LG will churn out in the G4, since it seems like my hopes of an Xperia Z4 phone aren't going to be fulfilled.
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I'm liking the look of the S6's internals, and it's good to see Samsung making a return to chart-topping specs (well, except the battery life) after the G3 stole the spotlight last year and Samsung released the utterly mediocre S5. Of course I'm bummed about the non-removable battery and lack of an SD card, but it's about time that they made a more premium-feeling device. My S4 is the first smartphone that I've owned that "broke", with the chrome trim coming off everywhere (ew, white plastic), and enough flex that my power button got jammed in.
The M9 looks absolutely awful, not cosmetically, but specwise. No 1440p, (another) lacklustre camera (though not as bad as the ultrapixel trash they were using before), and they don't have the uprated RAM from the S4. Pretty much the only thing this has over the S6 is battery life, as I'm really skeptical whether the DDR4 and 14nm Exynos in the S6 will be really as efficient as they allege. After getting used to the LG's phenomenal (albeit dim and power-wasteful) screen, there's no way I'm backtracking, especially since one year of development should have improved battery efficiency.
I'm eager to see what LG will churn out in the G4, since it seems like my hopes of an Xperia Z4 phone aren't going to be fulfilled.
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense...
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense... The ram was increased to 3GB... the octa core processor is a beast... I really hope the camera gets better with software
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We would have to agree to disagree... As it is nice to see Samsung come out with something decent for better competition, I don't think know it's better than the m9... The QHD or full HD won't make a difference in a small 5" screen, but it will make a difference in battery life... The design of the s6 is lack luster from pics, and touch wiz is still 5 steps behind sense...
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Oh no, I fully agree with you on the battery life aspect. I'm just not interested in moving back to 1080 after the G3, and I'm likely upgrading to a phablet after this phone.
I think the S6 looks mediocre, but the Edge looks really nice. Based on my previous experience with TW, Sense, and the G3, I've found OEM skins to have become genuinely more palatable, so I'm not too concerned. Sense is a hell of a lot nicer, but regardless of skin, deleting the launcher (for Nova or GNow, depending on your inclination) removes 30-40% of the skin, and almost all of the lag, if any exists in the first place.
I am keen on seeing the RAM, Exynos, and design improvements on the S6 line. I remember my old Wolfson DAC powered SGS, and want to see how far the Exynos has come since then. Especially if the M9's 810 is as prone to heat as the G3's 801 (and the subsequent battery life and performance drops), I'm a tad wary. Though, I can't believe they removed SD card support, which legitimately annoys me.
My biggest issue with the M9 is that it looks exactly like the M8 (save for the Duo Camera eyesore), which looked worse than the M7 right before it; the way I see it, S6<M8<M9<M7<S6E. As someone who trialled and traded an M8 for my G3, that doesn't have me enthused. Also, reviews have allegedly been against the new camera setup, still panning it relative to its flagship competitors (though not as bad as the Ultrapixel Duo trash), especially for its lack of OIS. Its spec sheet also is perfectly mediocre for what it is, with the only real gain over our G3 being the 810 v. the 801.
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Oh no, I fully agree with you on the battery life aspect. I'm just not interested in moving back to 1080 after the G3, and I'm likely upgrading to a phablet after this phone.
I think the S6 looks mediocre, but the Edge looks really nice. Based on my previous experience with TW, Sense, and the G3, I've found OEM skins to have become genuinely more palatable, so I'm not too concerned. Sense is a hell of a lot nicer, but regardless of skin, deleting the launcher (for Nova or GNow, depending on your inclination) removes 30-40% of the skin, and almost all of the lag, if any exists in the first place.
I am keen on seeing the RAM, Exynos, and design improvements on the S6 line. I remember my old Wolfson DAC powered SGS, and want to see how far the Exynos has come since then. Especially if the M9's 810 is as prone to heat as the G3's 801 (and the subsequent battery life and performance drops), I'm a tad wary. Though, I can't believe they removed SD card support, which legitimately annoys me.
My biggest issue with the M9 is that it looks exactly like the M8 (save for the Duo Camera eyesore), which looked worse than the M7 right before it; the way I see it, S6<M8<M9<M7<S6E. As someone who trialled and traded an M8 for my G3, that doesn't have me enthused. Also, reviews have allegedly been against the new camera setup, still panning it relative to its flagship competitors (though not as bad as the Ultrapixel Duo trash), especially for its lack of OIS. Its spec sheet also is perfectly mediocre for what it is, with the only real gain over our G3 being the 810 v. the 801.
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OK I see your point... The design is not for everyone... I am excited to see what LG has in store... My biggest problem is that I'm impatient... But even though the edge really intrigued me when I first seen it, then I read that the edge only shows time and notification... That was a disappointment to me because now I feel like all its going to do is drain the battery... They could have used that edge to be more practical... Idk I think I'm still going with the m9 bit I'm really trying to wait to see what LG has in store
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There is little gained by always chasing the latest and greatest "thing". Sure the new phones are arguably better than the G3, but is it really worth the cost? I really doubt it. Trading for a new phone every 6-12 months makes as much sense financially as trading in for a new car every 1-2 years....... Ride the G3 for at least one more cycle of flagship phone releases and then consider getting something new. Just my 2 cents....... :good:
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The deal breaker for me is the HTC logo strip between the bottom speaker and screen. I know it's trivial, and first world problems, but it's so ugly and unnecessary. One selling point of the g3 was the small bezels and the maximum screen space efficiency. The m8 was a better device IMO... But the g3 was a close second with slightly better specs and a better screen
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I was a big HTC fan, absolutely loved my One XL and even the Aria. Tried to like the M8 but could not get over the stupid logo strip. Not only are the aesthetics weird but it gets in the way of using the phone. Touching the logo strip generates the equivalent of soft button actions but the behavior is very inconsistent.
At the time I was told that the logo strip is there because they need the room to cover up some of the hardware that drives the speakers. Which brings me up to another objection - those damn speakers that make the phone much bigger and heavier than it needs to be. As far s I am concerned a phone needs to have just enough of a speaker to produce well audible beeps and buzzes. Anything more is pointless, that's what headphones are for.
Got the G3 because of the near non existent bezels. The power and volume buttons on the back are pure genius for a phone this size. The launcher is fugly but the first thing in do with any phone is put Nova on, so that does not matter. And once you root and get rid of crap there is hardly any lag. Battery life has proved to be decent despite the QHD screen.
Which brings me to my biggest complaint about the G3 - the QHD screen. 1080p would have been perfectly fine and the battery life would have improved. What a waste. Unfortunately I can't see the G4 coming with a lower res screen from a purely marketing point, and now that Samsung has gotten on the bandwagon HTC cannot be far behind. Pitty. Maybe a motto X is in my future.
The point of this post is just to share my thoughts about the direction Motorola has taken with flagships. After using this phone for more than a year I can conclude:
Besides near stock Android and Turbo charging, the phone is mediocre at best. I have never felt as good as what i felt with my previous flagships (a Oneplus One).
The Battery life is way below average. After using the phone for a year the battery has really started to show its age and its not lasting as long as it should.
Another annoying issue I noticed is the fact that Motorola implements almost the same design language for their lower end G series and X series. Apart from the size, someone who isn't a tech geek can easily mistake my Pure for a lower end Motorola phone. The new Z series has fixed this, but again it would be difficult for the uninitiated to tell the difference between a Moto Z Play and the more premium Moto Z. Samsung, LG, HTC, Xiaomi go to great lengths to ensure that their flagships stand out and look very different from the budget phones.
I dont think i need to mention the fact that ever since Lenovo has taken over, the update wait time has increased a great deal, new reports suggest that the Pure will only get Noughat in May 2017
The developers that choose to work on the Pure deserve a lot of credit, but the fact is that a lot of developers chose to develop for other devices rather than the Pure.
A lot of accessory manufacturers decided that the moto X Pure didn't deserve any attention. To find a decent case was not very easy, (I especially missed using a Spigen case) and the fact that there is not a single working tempered Screen glass protector proves this. (I know the Pleson works almost 100% but its not available freely in all countries neither is it perfect.)
In conclusion I'm pretty sure this will be my last Motorola phone simply because it would be smarter to spend a little more and get a Galaxy, and with phones like the Oneplus 3T it makes little sense to buy a phone like the Moto Z which is priced considerably higher.
Would love to hear from other people what they think and if they are going to stay loyal to Motorola.
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The point about sharing design with mid range Moto phones is dope. People often ask if it's a Moto X Play or a Moto G 3rd Gen and then we need to tell them it's X Style ??
Well ... I understand your point of view, but what I think is that you chose badly the device, since you found him "mediocre at best"
The points listed:
Comparing the most powerful AND STABLE 32-bit processor to the second in line of Qualcomm's 64-bit generation SOC's with new architecture and everything else, I believe to be extremely wrong, since after the SD810 fiasco the creation of the SD808 was the fix the company used (and i think it was a good one, but this is something mostly disagree with me '^^)
About the OnePlus One, it is really a beast phone with the SD801 (the 32bits GOD) and i understand that you had a remarkable experience with it, since i had (now it is with my girlfriend) an Xperia Z3 with the same SD801 as the OnePlus One i understand when you say it was a more fluid usage, since i think the same, but... I don't think you can compare something that is pretty stable with some new technology.
I never had any problems with the battery because i use as a normal phone and i play games only at home and waiting in lines (bank/medic/...), it gives me something next to 18 hours (stock ROM/kernel) of use with 3 hour SOT or 7 to 8 hours SOT when i use it to watch movies/series/animes in my bed, mostly at weekends. Through the week i unplug it from charger at 6:30, go to work, and at 18:00 i go back home (40 ~ 35% left), the weekend is always a mess for battery stats,
As for the design I don’t have much to say, because I find it very beautiful, and being same design language is a plus for me, i like to have a “invisible phone” in the croud, only people that asks me what is my phone should know the answer.
Now the two really bad points ...
As for Lenovo acquiring Motorola, I fully agree that it was dumb, at least it should keep Motorola working as it always did.
And the lack of smartphone accessories really is laughable
We can keep talking about it, but i really think is a good phone and the testing Nougat ROM's are amazing, i can't wait for the official Nougat update.
btw all samsungs look the same too, comapre new A series with S: very simmilar glass on glass design.
other than that, you're right there are some dissapoitments but it's not real flagship phone, it's more like very good mid-end device, It was never priced like a flagship so don't expect it to be real flagship - that's my opinion. OPO is a differen't story, they managed to get price down with other ways like it's distribution, services ect.
It is a flagship phone. Why would you think otherwise? SD 8xx, 5.7" 2K screen, 21 MP back camera, etc. Upon release the starting price for 16gb was $399, while most mid range phones hit at $250-$300. At this point, nearly 2 years later, it could be considered a mid range but that is because hardware moves forward.
As to my thoughts: I think this is a great phone, even now. I run unrooted stock and pretty much it is a Nexus device with a few extras for customization thrown via Moto apps. These apps are few and I appreciate that they add actual additional features and not just replicate what Android and Google actually does already. The phone runs smooth, has a good camera for good lighting, and handles everything I throw at it. I will admit that battery life could be better, but it is acceptable and at least the turbo charge makes up for this shortcoming. I don't regret this purchase, even if the update process is dismal.
Update: I have hit the end of my warranty period, so I unlocked the bootloader and rooted. I have applied my favorite rooted apps and settings (Xposed, amplify, Greenify, TiBu to disable/uninstall certain apps and services, BBS to track wakelocks, and AdAway) so hopefully I will see improved battery life.
I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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I bought the phone 6 months ago and I love it. I always used to be a android tinkerer. But recently most of the features that I used to root for have become stock. All I really need in a phone is stock android (although I wish we would get updates sooner) and the front facing speakers (because anything else is stupid). While I will probably be buying whatever google has out when I decide that it is time to upgrade in a year or two. It isn't due to anything motorola did wrong in particular. I also tend to keep phones a long time and upgrade to a tried and tested phone (which 6 months ago was the moto x pure, getting great reviews.) I upgraded from the Galaxy Note 2, and this was a wonderful step up.
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I bought mine used last summer, upgrading from a Galaxy Note II. I'm a little disappointed in the battery life, but it gets me through most days. I agree about the lack of accessories and the slowing speed of updates. I'm also amazed at how well my Note II still stands up while running a custom MM Rom. I hope the X Pure works that well when it is that old.
But there are things that I really love about this phone too. I am amazed at how good the front speakers sound. I never thought I would care this much, but they are really good. I'm happy with the camera, since most of my photography is in good lighting conditions. This is my first phone with a camera that was good enough to not bother with a point and shoot. I'll move to a custom ROM if the updates stop altogether, but they haven't stopped yet. I'm happy that it still has a headphone jack, I use it all the time. Speed is fast enough to never annoy me, where my Note 2 was fast enough to rarely annoy me.
I choose this phone as an aging flagship instead of a midrange (Honor 5X, Asus Zenfone Laser 2, Moto G 3rd Gen) and I'm glad that I did.
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Note 2 holdout here too . I'm just finishing up my first week since the upgrade and am quite pleased so far. I have the feeling that the MXPE is going to be a good low maintenance, long haul phone that I can get a few good years of service out of without too much hand-holding, just like with the Note. And with a nice, bright LCD screen instead of Led, I won't ever have to worry about burn-in or custom kernels to help correct green tint; pretty much everything just works. In fact, there's a ton of features that used to require a special app or a custom rom on the Note 2 that are built right in to the X, so there was a lot less effort required out-of-the-box to get everything to work, and on the stock Rom, no less! Even tethering works on the stock rom, which is something that I've never seen on any smartphone in my life.
Comparing the battery life of the two devices, I have yet to conclude any formal tests, but so far, the Pure Edition looks like it's going to be delivering 3-4 hours of screen-on time at best, while the Note 2 delivered as much as 4-5 hours on a good day. That said, I used that phone much more conservatively, so that could have something to do with it, but overall, the runtime of the Pure Edition isn't looking all that great. I think it's just got too much power for its own good, and when you combine that with a ludicrously-high screen resolution, (which demands more effort to render those high-resolution fonts and animations) it strains the CPU and GPU more. Time will tell if things improve after I settle in with it.
Overall I am happy with my X pure, though I share some of the others gripes.
Pros
-Screen
-Above average camera
-Good front camera with flash
-Good CPU, 3GB RAM
-front speakers
-no complaint on call quality
-Sd card slot - I have a 64GB card split as 20GB adopted and 40GB external
-moto ROM is near stock
-Moto features are well done (lock screen notifications)
-Simple unlock/root process
-GSM & CDMA = yes on VZ
-Quich charge 2
-understated design (I like it, others not as much)
- PRICE for these features unmatched
Cons
-Gets hot under load
-Battery life could be better - depends on how much I use it. GPS OFF helps. QC is a necessity with this phone
- lack of choice for accessories
- curved back - one handed is a chore and can't use on the table face up. It does feel nice to hold for a call though.
Other
- upgrade cycle has been slower than some would like. However it still exists at least. Other phones would be dead by now, this one is still alive.
Overall, Pros outweigh the cons and there is a lot for me to love about this phone.
I think I have been spoiled, because I'm finding it hard to find a device to upgrade to without sacrifices. The only phones I would consider are the Pixel and Moto G4 and one is expensive and the other underpowered.
well, i did the poll but i did it as a yes i would buy another, with condition of course.
i came from the original disappointed motorola fans, the Photon 4G fan. back then... it was the photon of the era. It had the ability to work as a PC, GSM capabilities, 4G wimax and at the time was the best performance with dual core 1 gigahertz and qHD. really a prime of a phone at that time compared to the S2 and the evo. cyanogenmod came out and did wonders on that phone because moto blur was so trashy. Then... the worst happened. Sprint ordered motorola to lock down the bootloader to 2.3.6 which is severely locked and no modifications were allowed to be done anymore. those who were lucky to not have 2.3.6 were able to mod to ICS but those who had 2.3.6 had to bootstrap the phone to work with cyanogenmod and that even was a piss poor attempt at making it work.
now i buy the moto x pure with alot of resentment from the photon but after hearing the reviews is when i bought it. after plagues of hardware problems with hte nexus 5 i simply needed a way to go back and the best device was the moto x. i was so sure i wanted this phone i custom ordered it (after reading rave reviews), i ordered the black leather with red accent 64 gig with 2 years protection. with over a year on this phone... i will admit i still love it.
there were a few hardware problems but i do have the 2 year protection and they did repair it for me... replaced the screen and the battery and wireless modules. i since then have not had problems with it (and believe they remedied the issues that i had with the older devices). i own an HTC M9, and my sister has the s7 edge. the only thing i like about the m9 is the dolby atmos and the carrier aggregation (hoping for a wireless update for the X). other than that... my phone is still superior despite older technology.
why?
i love my moto x because of the moto display. my absolute favorite! i also love the flash light and camera gestures.
the camera works great, signal is still better than most other phones, it barely crashes, the speakers still work very well, still speedy, turbo charge is still an amazing product and i bought the car charger for it. battery had 90 mins on screen time and still has 41% battery and i like the fact its unlocked gsm. i tried freedom pop a few weeks ago and i put that sim in. switched over quickly and it worked great then when i was done... i put my sprint sim back in and it worked just as great too.
the reason i dont see much to switch to however is because samsung, LG, and HTC hasnt really enticed me yet as to why their phone is better. samsung i have to see what will make them different... but LG really hasnt enticed me and im curious on what HTC does, though im not a metal phone fan (feel the feraday cage idea disintegrates the signal, IMO). Pixel is nice... but i simply dont have the money.
what would make me switch to another phone...
1) 4 gig of ram (preferably 6 gigs)
2) HPUE has to be baked in for Sprint LTE at a minimum but 5 channel aggregation would be amazing, AND GSM UNLOCKED
3) best camera software
4) minimum 5.5 inch screen
5) battery that will last for full 24 hours without need of charge or quick charge 4.0 with dual pol
6) shatter resistance and waterproof
for now... the moto x meets my demands without incremental improvements until i see whats next. hopefully a moto z successor that actually works on sprint
In the 2 years it has been out the update cycle has been slower than Samsung's Motorola did not deliver on the support side the main selling point they had with this device was it was going to be similar to the Nexus upgrade cycle well my warranty was up before the first update came out... In addition to the fiasco that is accessories for this phone I am really regretting not going with the LG v10
I don't know why everyone still complains about the accessories. This was never a mainstream device since it was completely carrier independent and sold unlocked. The previous Moto X (and Moto G) line was sold as both branded and unlocked so they were actually seen at pretty much any company that sold cellular service. For those looking for contract or payment plan pricing, they could get it from the carrier. With limited visibility, and the lack of payment plans through carriers the Pure was just not that popular. Companies that make accessories are going to focus on popular selling phones first as that is where they will make the most money... At least we have some options.
I sold my Moto X Pure to buy a Google Pixel XL.
If I were to sell the Pixel XL, then the Moto X Pure is the only phone I'd consider buying.
It was the best all-around phone I've ever had.
I'd even go with it over the new OnePlus 3 second edition or Galaxy S7 variants.
Regardless of price.
Moto Z. lmao what a stinker that phone is compared to Moto X Pure.
Unless you want pretty. Then you shouldn't even be on XDA if that's all you care about.
Interesting comments. I've been a Nexus owner for years, with the 6P being my prior phone. It became my prior phone due to the all too common Boot Loop of Death (BLOD) that seems to be impacting more and more owners. While Huawei did replace it with a refurb'ed model, not in mint shape like the one I sent, but it did come back with 128g instead of the 32g I sent. The battery is terrible as compared with the MXPE, I've been through most of the custom roms/kernels and nothing has really helped and I don't do social media nor play games on it. The built in features of the Moto really impressed me, they are actually functional and add value. The Moto Display is excellent as is the voice recognition of the Moto voice. The bluetooth stack seems to have issues (with me at least), my cell signal is a bit worse and the lack of updates is sad.
I've considered the Pixel, but the price is insane and after having the Pixel features on the 6P I'm happy with the Moto.
When I got my 6P back, it took about a week to change my sim back to it from the Moto, I put it back in the Moto the next day and don't plan on taking it out.
I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
3. The camera now fails to operate because of a "lack of disk space" -- although I have more than 24GB available.
Like you, I will never buy another Motorola phone.
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I've had several issues with my Moto X Pure:
1. Frequent static emanating from the headphone jack, which puts a real damper on quiet classical music. I've read on discussion boards that this is a known problem with jacks on the Moto X.
2. Failure to recognize SD cards. I'm now on my third card, and the phone is less than a year old.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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1. This is interesting and must be sample-specific. I'm a pretty avid music listener and haven't had any problems with the headphone output on either of my MXPEs (had to RMA my first toward the end of the warranty period). I'd definitely notice and complain if there were any perceptible noise.
2. This one I do have experience with. I bought a brand new Samsung EVO 64 GB mSD card at the same time as the phone, and it gave me fits, but seems to work in other devices. Tried an older SanDisk I had laying around and it's worked fine.
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I've had issues with static, but only on some select 3.5mm plugs. I just figure it was that specific plug itself.
Have had no issues with my SanDisk plus. I use it as removable storage and not as adopted storage. But going back to your statement, I have owned a multiple phones and have noticed some don't play well with certain brands of cards but do well with others. I'm not sure why this is but it does happen.
I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
Times have changed
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I really hope I don't get SD slot troubles. My Note 2 did that and it drove me crazy. Maybe next time I should just shell out for a 64+ GB phone.
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Newer versions of Android (and their apps, along with the stock Rom apparently) are not nearly as frugal with the 16GB of storage as the Note2 was. I'm already at 7.8/9.6GB used with just a basic load of apps and data (music is on the card and camera photos are also directed to be stored there) on the MXPE.
For comparison, my Note2 has a massive load of software & data, plus a ton of camera photos, all on the main storage volume, and only 6.26GB out of the total 10.95GB available are used.
All that to say that 16GB used to be plenty, but "modern" software is just too bloated for that. If I do upgrade phones anytime in the next ~2 years, it'll probably be to a larger Moto X Pure Edition, but for now, that 64GB MicroSD card should be plenty adequate.