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Ditch One S for Nexus 4?

I placed an order for the Nexus 4 16GB on the Play Store last week for around 380 including tax and shipping. It will still take two weeks before it ships, and now I am having second thoughts. I like my One S and am not too impressed by the Nexus 4 specs. Any personal thoughts / opinions?
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The only things it has over the one s is double the speed/ram and stock android updated by Google, other than that the one s has a better build quality better camera
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I've heard bad things about the N4's battery life. And I am very sceptical to any phone with a back made of glass. That said, it is really cheap for the specs it has. Snapdragon S4 Pro is pretty sexy.

Yea I'm not into the back being made of glass, the galaxy note 2 to me is the best on the market but until I get onto a new carrier which won't be for awhile I'm stuck on the one s
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Wait everyone.....
Does the HTC one S have lte technology?

cannondale0815 said:
I placed an order for the Nexus 4 16GB on the Play Store last week for around 380 including tax and shipping. It will still take two weeks before it ships, and now I am having second thoughts. I like my One S and am not too impressed by the Nexus 4 specs. Any personal thoughts / opinions?
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Cannondale, it is only thanks to you that I stuck with the One S. I only had it for 2 days and thought I had bricked it until I found your post on repairing a soft brick.
My opinion is that a LG phone will never have as good a build quality as a HTC phone, also camera is way below HOS spec. I have heard that the battery life is very poor. The only current phone I would possibly swap for is the Galaxy Note 2!
Change your mind and stay with the better phone for now.

I don't know, I see all this praise over the One S, only from the owners of one, I have the Galaxy Nexus and the HTC One S unrooted stock (for now) and I always prefer to use my GNex. Bigger and better display makes a big difference for the better and the customizations and support. The HTC One S is more powerful but the freedom of the Nexus is a wonderful thing! I haven't rooted my One S yet cause I can't find a Cincinnati Bell Wireless RUU for it, I guess there isn't one. So when I use my One S I miss all the things I can do with my Nexus. I suppose I can do the same things with the HTC it just doesn't seem easy or practical. The Nexus is a developers phone and if you are a flash addict like me thats what makes Nexus users always go back to Nexus. Once you go Nexus you never go back! Lol. I loved my Nexus S and love my Galaxy Nexus even more and I am sure I would love the Nexus 4, just don't have any reason to give up on my GNex yet. So if you are happy with the development for the HTC One S then I would probably stay, I still need to root mine to find out. From what I have seen, especially since there is no RUU for my network it seems to much of a hassle.

Unfortunately the one S is a highly under rated phone, people right it off straight away before even using one for more than a few minutes (even though pretty much every expert review has spoken very highly of it and the only disadvantages they mention of it, is the screen sharpness and limited storage), you don't get to appreciate just how good it really is in 10-20 minutes of usage. IMO the only phones that are truly better overall are the:
- XL and the X+
- GS 3 and note II
- RAZR HD/MAXX
Plus having virtually no advertisements for the phone means average joes etc. will think that it mustn't be that good and therefore won't care, advertise/market the phone as good as the GS 3 and iphones and people will be interested.
The galaxy nexus display is nice, definitely sharper/clearer than the S, however, IMO it is too dull for SAMOLED panel, the one S is the best when it comes to calibration for colour settings, whites are the best I have seen on a SAMOLED screen, view ability in sunshine is far better from my usage with both. The display isn't "much" bigger due to the on screen buttons, iirc the height is pretty much the same but the galaxy nexus is a bit wider, I would have liked the screen on the S to have been a bit wider.
I was going to get the nexus 4 if HTC didn't get the JB update out by the end of this month, however, after reading reviews and loads of users comments, I will probably stay with the S till the butterfly comes out here. Seems more like a side/down grade overall:
- Mixed opinion on the screen, some say it is as good if not better than the X display, but others say the screen is washed out and poor viewing angles, which I can't stand, personally I prefer SAMOLED screens overall
- camera overall isn't as good
- build/perceived quality and design IMO isn't as good (still a lovely looking phone though)
Main advantages of the nexus 4 over the S:
- battery life once they fix the problems with the drivers/software
- nexus device so will get updates

I didn't get the N4 simply because it's too big. I have a one S with AOKP JB ROM and it works like a charm--fast internet, data, no problems with any apps I've tried. I recognize I'm probably in JB 4.1 for the life of the phone but JB finally realizes the promise of Android and I'll probably be happy with it for the next couple of years. And on eBay the one S, rooted and all, was a third cheaper than the N4.
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I had the two phones side by side the other day, and after turning both screens on my decision was made. After being spoiled by the true blacks and rich colors of the one s screen, I couldn't stand the nexus 4 screen.
As far as the specs go, yeah, you get more processing power and ram, but do you need it yet? Does screen size outweigh screen quality? And as far as updates go, if you're rooted, you got 'em.
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I want to thank everyone for your sensible responses and advice. I decided to sell my Nexus 4 to a colleague. It was very, very difficult to give it away. I had only opened the box one time before, and when I opened it again to give it to him, I almost went back on the deal to keep it. But my resolve was strong
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I have a N4 and One S. I haven't had it long enough to give a full review. I've been waiting for the successor to the Galaxy Nexus for a while and was turned of at first to hear it was produced by LG. Now that I have one I don't care who made it. He's some simple observations.
Build quality: Very Good - My phone has no creeks or blemishes it's a perfect example.
Screen: Looks great, I don't have much experience with color accuracy but the colors/brightness/clarity are good.
They did speed binning on the SOC and I also got lucky there and got a "Fast" one. I think it just means the kernel will under-volt it by 50ma vs a "Normal" chip
I flashed CM on both phones as fast as I could so there isn't really any difference in terms user experience.
I don't use any of the new 4.2 features.
While it feels thicker laying the two phones flat on a table side by side they seem the same thickness overall. The One S is slimmer in the middle of course.
HTC One S has USB OTG. The Nexus does not, I'm really bummed about that.
Speed wise they are the same to me.
Turns out the 3g/4g switching that alarmed us when the One S came out is hear to stay. It's just more honest reporting of phones connection. Both my phones drop to H when not pulling down data and switch up to H+ when there is actual through put.
I thought I would like the buttons drawn on the screen but they seem to close. I don't like it now that I have it.
That's it for now. I need a little more time to get a better feel for it.

I am getting HTC One S with S4 processor for $180 and Nexus 4 16GB for $280
which one should i choose at this price ? Help experts ....

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Wait for nexus 5

I think im done with my One S

So im officially done with this phone. and i need some advice on which phone to switch to.
Nexus 4 or the Galaxy Nexus. I've been hearing bad things about the nexus 4 so i'm hesitant to get it. what do u guys think?

blackhartct said:
So im officially done with this phone. and i need some advice on which phone to switch to.
Nexus 4 or the Galaxy Nexus. I've been hearing bad things about the nexus 4 so i'm hesitant to get it. what do u guys think?
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I had an option to buy the Gnex or the One S. I chose this device simply because its much more powerful than the Gnex. Gnex uses quite an old chipset compared to the 28nm S4 Krait in the One S.
Nexus 4 is a real upgrade from the One S... But yes, it does have loads of issues. Cracking glass, yellow tint on screen after device heating up, and loads of such complaints. I'd prefer you wait a few months until good devices are released. MWC 2013 is just a month away..
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Wait for the gs4 or get an gs3. Bout to trade my one s for a gs3
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If I were to swtich device - which Im not, I love the S, I would only trade it for a padfone2, because I love the idea of having a phone/tablet combined.

No point switching to either of them IMHO.
Nexus 4 - more of a side step
GN - downgrade overall
The one S camera is far better than both in every area.
Audio is more or less the same for the nexus 4 and one S.
Screen is personal preference:
SAMOLED:
blacks are black, vibrant/saturated colours, infinite contrast ratio
not as good whites, bit pixelated when you look closely, not as sharp on the whole
VS
SLCD/IPS
natural colours, better whites, sharper and clearer on the whole
Poor black levels (but then again every LCD is poor when compared to sAMOLED), some people report that there nexus 4 display is too washed out compared to other LCD screens like the one X
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And of course the larger screen of the N4 is an advantage as well as more screen real estate due to the higher res.
The hardware in the N4 is better than the one S, however, with JB and S4 chipsets in real world usage I doubt you will notice much, if any difference. My one S feels faster/snappier/more responsive than a GS 3, note II (exynos powered devices), all running with JB in real world usage (not a huge difference but noticeable enough). The multi-tasking will be much better though due to stock android and 2GB RAM though. Haven't used a Nexus 4 yet.
The NLED on the N4 will be far better too.
Looks are subjective.
Build/perceived quality are more or less the same, think an aluminium uni-body is better than glass back and front though.
Software subjective.
Too hard to say about battery life, the nexus 4 in theory should be much better but due to poor software/driver optimisation it isn't as good as the one S and you will be able to buy the 2040mAh from the X+ battery for the S at some point... You can get good battery life from the N4 but you need to switch stuff and tweak it or better yet flash a custom kernel.
Also, the N4 doesn't support USB OTG.
Unless you badly want a stock android nexus device or/and don't want to spend much, I would wait for the next lot of phones or at least until the Sony xperia Z or get the HTC DNA.

Personally, I would wait to see what's going to be announced in the next month...
I have both the One S and the Galaxy Nexus, and the One S is better than the Gnex in everything except NFC, screen resolution and the fact that the Gnex has vanilla android.
The build, battery life, screen colors, camera, download speeds, and processing speeds are all better with the One S.

This is my first HTC device and im not gonna lie the cam is amazing but i hate sense. I thought i could live with it but after 6months with this phone im sick of it.
I've used an s3 recently and touchwiz is def weird and im sure in 6months time ill be sick of it too.
I just really want vanilla android and updates on time. Now that im looking around it seems like it will be cheaper to get a new n4 than buying a SGN.... ugh.. the n4 just seems like a device that will crap out on me.. too many issues right after release.

If you want stock android and more timely updates and since you're rooted etc. already then why don't you flash CM or some other jellybean ROM based on stock android?

Terminator19 said:
If you want stock android and more timely updates and since you're rooted etc. already then why don't you flash CM or some other jellybean ROM based on stock android?
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Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.

blackhartct said:
Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.
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I'm running latest CM10 nightly and everything but tether works for me. Thing flys and no issues with BT at all
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Switching from One S to Galaxy Nexus is a major downgrade. You'd have to be nuts to make this move.

RockR172 said:
I had an option to buy the Gnex or the One S. I chose this device simply because its much more powerful than the Gnex. Gnex uses quite an old chipset compared to the 28nm S4 Krait in the One S.
Nexus 4 is a real upgrade from the One S... But yes, it does have loads of issues. Cracking glass, yellow tint on screen after device heating up, and loads of such complaints. I'd prefer you wait a few months until good devices are released. MWC 2013 is just a month away..
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Same here; I was in my provider's store to get the Gnex but then saw the One S
I compared the specs and I was impressed with the One S
Plus, I prefer the size of the One S to the Gnex's.

i have owned the nexus and one s. Personally, I always go back to one s beause it's smaller, slimmer which makes it easier to carry around. i felt One S screen is also better than Nexus (though I do love Nexus's bigger screen and higher res, the only thing I really like about nexus). For the performance, i felt one S is faster in every way despite hte sense overlay. This is most likely due to the newer CPU. Of course this is comparing the One S vs Galaxy nexus. With Nexus 4, you should get better screen, higher res, better performance and pure android experience.
GS3 is also a good upgrade. While you are not getting better CPU, you do get better screen and RAM, which I think makes more impact in the performance than CPU. The only issue I have with samsung phone in general is that after using One S, I am spoiled with the build quality where I think One S is simply way much better in the overall design than Samsung.
I think if software is your thing, then nexus 4 is the better upgrade than Nexus.

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I think if software is your thing, then nexus 4 is the better upgrade than Nexus.
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The funny thing is build quality was one of the main reasons i got this phone. Hell i've dropped it 100+ times by now and it only has a few scuff marks around the charging port and edges. Screens in tip top shape no scratches or cracks. i make fun of iphone users cuz they drop their phones once and they shatter lol.
Well i would order my self a nexus 4 cept googles out of stock. guess ill play the waiting game

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Switching from One S to Galaxy Nexus is a major downgrade. You'd have to be nuts to make this move.
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Well to be honest the only part of that switch im not too sure about is the fact the SGN doesnt have 42+. I'm a power data user. (37GB last month WOOO going for 50 this month!!!) So for the majority of the time when i am using my phone i am either tethering, streaming music to my car stereo via bluetooth, checking emails, surfing xda ect.....

Stick with your One S.
I also was deciding between Gnex and One S and there was just one answer: One S, it's better in all aspects: Hardware internals , Build quality, Camera... it just smokes Gnex. Only upside is stock android, but there are downsides as well... htc provides more features than stock android.
Why would you change Aluminium One S for a Plastic S3? Not so much of a difference in daily use (performance wise). Some difference in benchmarks (Krait is a very good architecture).
N4 it a bit more stylish but besides stock android and having the latest software (which is kinds huge) It's a bit dissapointing... falls behind Optimus G which is virtually the same phone, i don't know how it's possible, have some issues and, while the glass looks very premium, you're taking a big risk with it...
Conclusion: One S it may not be the best phone out there, but I think it's the best choice

Well, I'd say go for the Nexus 4 but don't be disappointed about battery life that's even shorter than your one s'.

It's impossible to has a perfect phone, really every android phone have problems here and there, sadly. If you understand this fact, you will know that only change your phone when you very disappoint it. Get a new phone usually will solve some existing issues but on the other hand, it will also introduces new problems.
Nexus4 get the best updates but got some trouble on hardware side. BTW, N5 is already leaking news.
I personally will stick with One S for a while because the hardware isn't outdated yet, only the screen isn't as good as others. Moreover, I prefer small phone. All new phones are now just too big, gonna wait for some smaller phones to out.
HTC JB is better than Sony and Samsung in my experiences. Samsung JB on SGS3/Note2 is just a mess, I got some friends using them. It won't as good as Nexus, never, but already second the best.

blackhartct said:
Cuz they are buggy and don't work reason i'm usually running a PA build from Nov (which is hella buggy but is the only cm based rom that has working bluetooth) or a sense based rom. right now running jb+ but prob gonna flash viper 2.0 since it finally came out.
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Gs iii has some solid cm and such very little if any noticeable bugs. Also have you tried using a different launcher? I mean sense can be a pain but if it's just the notifications and the settings menu I can imagine it affecting you too heavily to switch phones. Just my opinion
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HOS is great phone, This android like it was made just for HOS (fast, smooth).. Rare cell phone, for which we can say, it works great with 4.0.4/4.1.1..
I had a Sony Xperia S and SGS3, But HOS it's still faster than the two (SGS3, SXS).. The only drawback of this phone is the battery...

Switch from Note 2 to S4?

Hello S4 Users,
Need your advice. I currently own a ATT Note 2 --pretty happy overall with the performance and battery life but the size and difficulty with one hand operation can annoy so planning to switch to S4. Looked at the S4 in store and 5" display with the form factor seems perfect
1. Does anyone who switched from Note 2 to S4 regret their decision--Why?
2. S4 reviews with ATT seems mixed: Lot of threads about bad battery life and lag. Are majority of users seeing these issues or are they specific to certain bad devices/app issues?
any other S4 issues that i should be aware of?
thanks

the only advace i can give you is try it urself in the store.. i came from htc and i love the S4 and wouldnt switch back.. now with the note2 i have freinds that love it and i also like it but i didnt want the 5.5 screen so i waited for the S4..with battery i have no issues last me 8-10 hrs depending how i use it and no lag on my end, fone is just awesome from what i can see..

veees.1 said:
Hello S4 Users,
Need your advice. I currently own a ATT Note 2 --pretty happy overall with the performance and battery life but the size and difficulty with one hand operation can annoy so planning to switch to S4. Looked at the S4 in store and 5" display with the form factor seems perfect
1. Does anyone who switched from Note 2 to S4 regret their decision--Why?
2. S4 reviews with ATT seems mixed: Lot of threads about bad battery life and lag. Are majority of users seeing these issues or are they specific to certain bad devices/app issues?
any other S4 issues that i should be aware of?
thanks
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1. No I do not.
2. The Note 2's battery life is definitely better than the S4's. The battery life on the S4 is great, but simply can't come close to that of the Note 2. The speaker on the Note 2 is also louder and fuller sounding. My wife still has a Note 2 and it's obvious.
My S4 lags less and is smother than my Note 2 was. Auto-rotate of the S4 screen is definitely better as well. I like the feel of the S4 a lot more than the Note 2. The screen and the size of the phone made this an easy switch for me.

Yes note 2 is a much better device imo. No phone can compare to it yet. Sgs4 lacks and screen feels very small.
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I made the switch and I love it. Would never even consider going back. Nothing against the note 2, but imo the S4 is perfect for my needs.
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I switched from an international Note 2 (n7100) and I don't regret it at all. I love the increased PPI (I can desktop view websites in landscape and read everything without needing to zoom), and the S4 makes walking around with jeans a lot more comfortable compared to having the N2 in my pocket. Also the processor speed is much faster. I notice while running Firefox Nightly. I personally never used the SPen, so I'm not missing my Note 2. Watching videos was better on the Note 2 because the screen was bigger, but that's the only advantage I can think of.
Also, I haven't seen any lag. I installed the OTA update the day I got the device, so I never saw problems.

@sabre31 are you crazy I switch over to the s4 from a note 2 and loving it. Screen is just so damn gorgeous and my battery life is awsome. I could go through a whole 10hrs of work and still have 40 percent left. Trying switching over to the s4 first before making comments. Sgs4 is a beast and I am glad I made the switch love my s4 best phone hands down.
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I too was a Note 2 owner, looking to pass it along to one of my employees. I am very happy with the S4 got 14 hours of battery use out of mine yesterday. I will say I miss NEVER having to think about the battery on the Note 2.
There is one big issue with the SG4 for me though. I MISS Scott's CLEANROM it is blazingly fast I hope he does one for the SG4.

Note 1 to 2 to s4 here.
Miss scotts rom but thats it. And trust me im a MAJOR fan of the note. Do it
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sgs2_1.6 said:
@sabre31 are you crazy I switch over to the s4 from a note 2 and loving it. Screen is just so damn gorgeous and my battery life is awsome. I could go through a whole 10hrs of work and still have 40 percent left. Trying switching over to the s4 first before making comments. Sgs4 is a beast and I am glad I made the switch love my s4 best phone hands down.
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Lol ummm I do have an s4 and using it now. Sucks compared to note 2. Only thing it has over note 2 is higher res screen. Who cares about the specs if the phone runs like a turtle.
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I bought both outright. The ppi doesn't make near the difference I thought it would. I like the notes bigger screen but like holding the s4 because its not huge if that makes sense. S4 is much better for 1 handed use. I never used my spen so I cant comment on that. 4.2.2 isnt really much different...Although I love having lockscreen controls of my media players like pandora which 4.1.2 cant do. Battery is obviously better on the note 2. Im still thinking about returning my s4 because its not a HUGE upgrade but it is noticeably smoother flipping through home screens using nova launcher which I think is a good test. 4.2.2 scrolling in other apps suffers though so there is a trade off.
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done12many2 said:
1. No I do not.
2. The Note 2's battery life is definitely better than the S4's. The battery life on the S4 is great, but simply can't come close to that of the Note 2.. .
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Ditto. The battery is a bit better then the s3 Imo. Can't touch the N2 battery, that was huge.
qbanlinxx said:
I made the switch and I love it. Would never even consider going back. Nothing against the note 2, but imo the S4 is perfect for my needs.
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Ditto
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Nice. thread getting some traction. As i noted earlier, i do love the NOTE2 specially having to never worry abt the battery and when i switched from Note-->Note2 had loved the upgrade. As time went by, found note 2 to be difficult to use with one hand and slightly heavy.
So looks like slightly worse battery life is the only CON BTW did anone consider the HTC ONE over S4? I liked the design but cokpared to Note2, 4.7" is just too small but would love to get some feedback on the battery life and SENSE...maybe a post for the HTC one forums=

veees.1 said:
Nice. thread getting some traction. As i noted earlier, i do love the NOTE2 specially having to never worry abt the battery and when i switched from Note-->Note2 had loved the upgrade. As time went by, found note 2 to be difficult to use with one hand and slightly heavy.
So looks like slightly worse battery life is the only CON BTW did anone consider the HTC ONE over S4? I liked the design but cokpared to Note2, 4.7" is just too small but would love to get some feedback on the battery life and SENSE...maybe a post for the HTC one forums=
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I have an HTC one. I think the design and looks of the phone beat both note 2 and sgs4 without a doubt. I think the camera snaps pictures much faster then sgs4 and I couldn't notice the difference between sgs4 pics and HTC one pics. Sense is nice but more stripped down and less features then sgs4. Battery life is worse then sgs4 imo but this is typical for HTC. Although it has the best battery life from all other HTC phones it seems worse at least to me then my sgs4. I love the 64gb storage of the one also. I know they come in 32gb also. I do feel the screen is way smaller coming from note 2 but using sgs4 and HTC one it is hardly noticeable.
HTC one does have better screen look especially in outside and this has to do with lcd screen being used. However everything I try to use htc one I seem to always end up back on note 2 or sgs4 because of the home button and the capacitive touch buttons are way better on sgs4. On htc one half the time the buttons require two or three times to push to register could be my phone but drives me nuts.
HTC one also has better development and unlocked bootloader.
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sabre31 said:
I have an HTC one. I think the design and looks of the phone beat both note 2 and sgs4 without a doubt. I think the camera snaps pictures much faster then sgs4 and I couldn't notice the difference between sgs4 pics and HTC one pics. Sense is nice but more stripped down and less features then sgs4. Battery life is worse then sgs4 imo but this is typical for HTC. Although it has the best battery life from all other HTC phones it seems worse at least to me then my sgs4. I love the 64gb storage of the one also. I know they come in 32gb also. I do feel the screen is way smaller coming from note 2 but using sgs4 and HTC one it is hardly noticeable.
HTC one does have better screen look especially in outside and this has to do with lcd screen being used. However everything I try to use htc one I seem to always end up back on note 2 or sgs4 because of the home button and the capacitive touch buttons are way better on sgs4. On htc one half the time the buttons require two or three times to push to register could be my phone but drives me nuts.
HTC one also has better development and unlocked bootloader.
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Lol I have both devices beside me as well.
The cameras are a HUGE difference. The One takes better low light pics but the trade off is horrible I mean really bad pics in daylight, worse then an iPhone 4 (yes the 4 not 4s) The One has a more accurate screen, and 4.7 - 5.0 is a pretty big difference especially since the s4 has a wider screen, the One has a narrow screen. The s4 will become more popular with development when the bootloader is unlocked so really thats nothing to worry about.

Ok let me give you my situation. I never owned a note 2 but before my upgrade I was debating on the s4 or note 2. I was heavily leaning on the note 2 side because the bigger screen spen bigger battery and exynos processor. All I can say now is im glad I chose the s4. Havent looked back since I got it

sabre31 said:
I have an HTC one. I think the design and looks of the phone beat both note 2 and sgs4 without a doubt. I think the camera snaps pictures much faster then sgs4 and I couldn't notice the difference between sgs4 pics and HTC one pics. Sense is nice but more stripped down and less features then sgs4. Battery life is worse then sgs4 imo but this is typical for HTC. Although it has the best battery life from all other HTC phones it seems worse at least to me then my sgs4. I love the 64gb storage of the one also. I know they come in 32gb also. I do feel the screen is way smaller coming from note 2 but using sgs4 and HTC one it is hardly noticeable.
HTC one does have better screen look especially in outside and this has to do with lcd screen being used. However everything I try to use htc one I seem to always end up back on note 2 or sgs4 because of the home button and the capacitive touch buttons are way better on sgs4. On htc one half the time the buttons require two or three times to push to register could be my phone but drives me nuts.
HTC one also has better development and unlocked bootloader.
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This is probably one of my biggest gripes about the HTC One. The button layout for me is the deal breaker. Its not just that the power and volume buttons are infuriatingly placed. But the removal of the menu key just to stick a big ass logo in the middle so you can let people know who dreamed up that ridiculous button layout.

I made that switch. Other than not rootng yet I'm very happy.
Battery life isn't as good, but I really like the size. There are some new features that rock too. The camera is even better and the stock messaging app has group mms built in. Those are the two that effect me daily.

What made me stay with the S4 over the Note 2... The screen. I hate the screen quality on the Note. Imo. All the pixelation ugghhh. But when the note 3 comes. Oh buddy!

Having had the Note 2 and now having the One, you get used to the buttons after like a day. Its really not that big of a deal, the only thing that took me a while to adjust to was the screen size lol.
As for going from the Note 2 to the S4, you should be right at home dude.

What you Like\Dislike about your SGS4

Hello everyone.
So heres how this works,
You can tell everyone what you personally love and hate about your device, even if its been said you can say it as many times as you would like. After all its your own opinion, then we all can share our opinion on what you had to say (in a respectful manor). Simple enough?
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I like:
the gorgeous screen,
the form factor.....It feels right and many other phones feel small
the sdcard slot
the replaceable battery
the IR port
the battery life
wireless Qi charging..Installed my Qi receiver about a week ago.
**thought of another like**
the ease with which I was able to sim unlock my S4
I don't like:
the locked boot loader
the fact that my FIIO E07K headphone amp doesn't work with the S4's usb OTG.
the way the emmc is partitioned, leaving only 9GB or so free on the 16GB version of the S4
I wouldn't call my ATT Galaxy S4 the perfect phone, there's definitely room for improvement, but in my opinion it's still the best phone I've used and I don't regret upgrading from my international i9300 S3 (which is still a great phone. )

love:
Dev support - super easy to root/flash recovery
4.2.2!
customizable toggle/expandable toggles
lock screen music controls
performance
battery life
more logical system menus
hate:
page buddy is gone
single finger zoon is gone
"light" theme compared to "dark" theme of s4, though its growing on me
16 gig is really less than 10 gig
heavily bloated

Here ill go, I love the phone. Specifically the hands free features, I can really wow people with that. I like the fact that this phone has alot of popularity, that means more development!:thumbup: there is not much to say because it speaks for itself!
The only thing I really dislike is the feeling of thinking I'm gonna break it, or the hard time I'm having adjusting to the Samsung keyboard. That's really the only things I don't like really! Haha which one of those isn't even due to the phone it's my own problem. But really this phone is damn near perfect!
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My only complaint is that coming from the Note1 the S4 is way too small. I also miss phablet mode (210dpi is unusable on the s4)
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Braxton355 said:
Here ill go, I love the phone. Specifically the hands free features, I can really wow people with that. I like the fact that this phone has alot of popularity, that means more development!:thumbup: there is not much to say because it speaks for itself!
The only thing I really dislike is the feeling of thinking I'm gonna break it, or the hard time I'm having adjusting to the Samsung keyboard. That's really the only things I don't like really! Haha which one of those isn't even due to the phone it's my own problem. But really this phone is damn near perfect!
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The Google keyboard from the play store will solve all your woes.

I really like the form factor.
My only complaint thus far, coming from a Nexus device there isn't much development for this phone, comparatively.
I think I also preferred on-screen buttons only vs the physical home button.

davanw said:
I really like the form factor.
My only complaint thus far, coming from a Nexus device there isn't much development for this phone, comparatively.
I think I also preferred on-screen buttons only vs the physical home button.
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The thing is, this is a newer phone.
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Having just come back to it from the ONE I can confidently two you that the s4 is the best phone on the market. The display is perfect the home button is a life saver and the overall form factor just works better for me. Now that I've got the Google edition ROM I've basically got a 5 inch 1080p display Nexus with removable battery and expandable memory with the perfect button setup!
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Coming from the IOS world, I can honestly say I'm glad I made the switch to Android.
What I like:
Size/Form Factor
Removable Battery
Smart Screen, Motion Gestures
Built in Call blocking features
Removable SD Card
Being able to flash ROM's
Not having to have dedicated software for my apps..ie..iTunes
Dev support
What I don't like:
The plastic back. It wasn't a deal breaker I just don't like how it feels.
The speaker is on the back of the phone.
S-Voice, I really relied on Siri and S-Voice just doesn't cut it to me

ddre73 said:
Coming from the IOS world, I can honestly say I'm glad I made the switch to Android.
What I like:
Size/Form Factor
Removable Battery
Smart Screen, Motion Gestures
Built in Call blocking features
Removable SD Card
Being able to flash ROM's
Not having to have dedicated software for my apps..ie..iTunes
Dev support
What I don't like:
The plastic back. It wasn't a deal breaker I just don't like how it feels.
The speaker is on the back of the phone.
S-Voice, I really relied on Siri and S-Voice just doesn't cut it to me
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S voice is junk compared to Google now. Witch you do have I believe by double tapping your home button or one of those. Google now > siri
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It's been amazing so far since i bought this device. Coming from the HTC One X which was also a great device but felt like a huge upgrade when i got the S4
Things i like:
External SD
Great Battery life
IR Blaster
Smart Stay
Amoled Display (really missed it from my samsung captivate and nexus s)
Nottach Xposed (so many tweaks and customization)
Dev support is great and we can run international roms with a loki'd kernel. What's not to like
Maybe the only thing i dislike or taking a bit time to get use to is the home button. I have gotten use to having all capacitive buttons. Will miss the sweep2wake feature i had with the One X a little.

s1l3nt said:
It's been amazing so far since i bought this device. Coming from the HTC One X which was also a great device but felt like a huge upgrade when i got the S4
Things i like:
External SD
Great Battery life
IR Blaster
Smart Stay
Amoled Display (really missed it from my samsung captivate and nexus s)
Nottach Xposed (so many tweaks and customization)
Dev support is great and we can run international roms with a loki'd kernel. What's not to like
Maybe the only thing i dislike or taking a bit time to get use to is the home button. I have gotten use to having all capacitive buttons. Will miss the sweep2wake feature i had with the One X a little.
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I came from the one x also and I agree sweep2wake was an awesome feature!
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Dislike how my phone lags at times
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Love:
Clarity of screen (coming from an S2)
Smooth feel of its operations
802.11ac (seriously, invest in a 802.11ac router and stream 1080p from your phone. It's sick)
Some of the camera options and quality
Battery life
Dislike:
AMOLED is made of egg shells
Stock body is slippery as heck (compared to the friction back of the S2)
Bloatware like made
Shakey cam before fine tuning.
Still love this phone. I don't care if I spent $200 to repair it's first cracked screen. This phone is well worth it. Can't wait to finish my current development project and go back to Android dev work.
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Like:
Beautiful display
Fast and powerful
32gb option
Sd card
removable battery
Dislike:
physical home button
bloatware (rooted and froze it)
speaker on the back
body is slippery (use a case most of the time but would like to go naked sometimes)

Overall I love this phone, I was unhappy with touchwiz, but Google edtion rom has "fixed" all my software woes.
My only complaint is about the buttons at the bottom of the screen, they are so close to the amoled, i often accidentally "hit" items at the bottom when clicking menu, home, back etc...

Braxton355 said:
Dislike how my phone lags at times
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This. My note2 didn't lag like this. Rooted gs4.
I'm surprised how good the battery life is. Easier to pocket due to smaller size.

Braxton355 said:
Dislike how my phone lags at times
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same here I had tried all Stock based ROMS and the lag still there,,, the only ROM that doesn't lag is AOKP, but I'm not a fan of AOSP.

eortizr said:
same here I had tried all Stock based ROMS and the lag still there,,, the only ROM that doesn't lag is AOKP, but I'm not a fan of AOSP.
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RCranium666 said:
This. My note2 didn't lag like this. Rooted gs4.
I'm surprised how good the battery life is. Easier to pocket due to smaller size.
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Try this and see if it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345856
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Nexus 5 alternative choice

If the N5 doesn't live up to your expectations which phone would you prefer instead even if cost were not a factor?
Is there another carrier flagship phone that you are satisfied would be flexible enough for you to be able to do all of the following?
root, rom;
restore to stock rom if necessary;
return to store after restoring stock rom;
upgrade via carrier upgrade plan after restoring stock rom?
make a potential carrier warranty claim after restoring stock rom?

If the Nexus 5 doesn't list up to my expectations, I will go back to my Galaxy Nexus. It may not be the most state of the art device but with CM ROM's and faux123's kernels, I can't go wrong with it.

jcsww said:
If the Nexus 5 doesn't list up to my expectations, I will go back to my Galaxy Nexus. It may not be the most state of the art device but with CM ROM's and faux123's kernels, I can't go wrong with it.
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That's actually the phone I own also but I've got it pretty heavily loaded over the last 2 years. I really think I need at least another gig of ram to run well and a faster processor wouldn't hurt. The non-removable 2300 battery on the N5 is just a real disappointment. I've only owned nexus devices so far and I'm a bit concerned that a carrier flagship may not be flexible enough.

NCguy said:
That's actually the phone I own also but I've got it pretty heavily loaded over the last 2 years. I really think I need at least another gig of ram to run well and a faster processor wouldn't hurt. The non-removable 2300 battery on the N5 is just a real disappointment. I've only owned nexus devices so far and I'm a bit concerned that a carrier flagship may not be flexible enough.
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A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.

To be honest, nothing beats the Nexus experience to me, and I can't even think of other choices with what I have experienced. When I think of a Nexus Phone I don't really give a huge deal for the hardware internals, because it's not really meant to be a show off with the latest hardware and the largest battery. Samsung soon will hit a 1000 cpu cores into their Exynos bully maybe, and yet their Touchwiz phone LAG and stutter. A properly minimally optimized OS over a good deal of hardware is what Google brings, not to forget the minimal design of the phone, and oh for a damn good price - I wouldn't ask for more.

jcsww said:
A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.
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I played with the LG G2 for over an hour, and decided it was too Samsung 'cheapie' plastic to suit me. The HTC One Max would be my next phone, despite an S600 chipset, based on durability and useability, and those speakers would come in quite handy at times.

prob moto x

If the Nexus is a no-go on Verizon I'll likely wait until the Moto Maker site goes live for VZW and at least get 32 gigs of internal storage. Feels really good in the hand and super smooth
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No choice but to keep it if i go n5.. i currently own a note3 and waiting to return for a n5... if i dont like it.. then too bad for me
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jcsww said:
A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery.
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+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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beaver2233 said:
+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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That it does. That's why I have been looking forward to it. The camera sticking out a bit also bugs me about the phone also. These two things are bugging me very much. With the time I get out of my Galaxy Nuxus battery on normal use, it might be fine for me for normal daily use. If I need to go out of town though, camping, or some where I just can't get to a charger, I'll have to hold on to my Galaxy Nexus to make sure I've got something I can stretch out for a couple of days.
The wireless recharging for the Nexus 5 is something that really caught my attention as a good thing. Being able to just sit my phone down on my desk when I get in and have it charge is awesome! The screen also looks very nice for slightly under 5 inches. Hopefully the announcement and launch kicks off today.

Who buys carrier branded crap phones with their ugly logos ... Nothing can beat a Nexus in Android world.

kirdroid said:
Who buys carrier branded crap phones with their ugly logos ... Nothing can beat a Nexus in Android world.
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Amen brother! Been on the nexus line since the nexus one. Hell sometimes I still miss the trackball. Lol

jcsww said:
A non-removable battery might be a deal breaker for me. I like to be able to just swap batteries if needed. I sure hope it doesn't end up with a non-removable battery. I am not a fan of LG stuff in the first place and I avoided the Nexus 4 for various issues. With T-Mobile not announcing another Sidekick anytime soon, I need to upgrade. I don't like the physical home buttons on phones so that has kept me away from the S4 and other phones. My original Galaxy Nexus actually got damaged due to heavy rain I got caught in and I couldn't get another from my carrier. I ended up getting an S4 to trade my mother for her Galaxy Nexus.
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yeah me too about the battery thing. I like to have a removable batt so I can buy an extra and swap it if my other one drains. But I think powerbanks are also helpful for non-removable batteries as well. #confusing hahaha

The Nexus has always been a developer only phone. But as it is for the camera that megapixels don't matter, so it is for the battery that the mAh won't matter. We have previously seen that the phones with an extra large capacity battery yet not perform as per the expectations. Atleast Google doesn't stuff their phones with bloatware like Samsung. A Nexus always comes with a minimal OS coupled with a balanced hardware at an unrivalled price. A non-removable battery & no expandable memory have always been the let downs, yet 32GB is enough for me for storage & a battery lasting just over a day is well enough for me. Nexus ftw !
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LG G2 Google Play edition.
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beaver2233 said:
+1 - love just been able to swap a fully charged battery. Extremely convenient... though from the leaks it looks very unlikely. Though I'm quite over my S4 atm and wanna try something different - the N5 looks like it could be a good choice.
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I'm currently on an OG Note, recently bought a new battery and I have little problems with it. I'm mainly bored with it now and the USB port has some problems (€10 to fix). Minor issues and I'm sure I could use the phone for another year without ever really being bothered by it. I don't play games, so I don't really need all that raw power the new devices have. I have been looking for a new device for some time, just to have a new gadget and all.
I work for HTC indirectly so I have a One lying around here that I can use, but I can't root it so I have no use for it. I can't get used to the new Sense and their strange softkey layout (though that's more the fault of developers that don't keep to the design guidelines of Android, than it is HTC's).
I also had the S4, which I liked overall, but I found it too expensive, it had useless functions which I didn't want to pay for. Especially since you lose a lot of them when you put a stock rom on it. It has an AMOLED screen which, after two years of the Note, I'm not very happy about (uniform colours are a pain, and it degrades too fast). And it looks just like any other Samsung device (and I'm bored now). - I did get hooked on the infrared functionality though. I miss that every day.
Then the Z1 came along, looked refreshing and the waterproof stuff is a giant pro. Useless camera, but the rest was pretty good. Unfortunately the screen dissapoints.
So now I'm waiting for the Nexus 5. Absolutely no useless functions. Just a good and powerfull device that can last for another two years. No screwing around with roms and stuff and a good price.
If it dissapoints, I might go for an S4 as they're now in the pricerange of the Nexus 5 or I'll stick to the Note for another year, to see if something better comes up.

If not the Nexus 5, I'd go for the Oppo N1.
With out of the box CyanogenMod, IPS 5.9 inch display, and top-notch camera optics and dual user-controllable flash.
I have (had) the S4 and sold it today. I was extremely dissapointed with it in just about every way, and with the addition of Knox locked bootloaders being sneaked in by Samdung, that iced the "sell it now" cake for me.
I'm actually back to using the SIII in the meantime, and even with piss-poor driver support, it runs CM very well.

my choise is between Nexus 4 or Nexus 5

lombardo8 said:
LG G2 Google Play edition.
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Actually, as far as the hardware goes, I am quite impressed with g2. That display seems so much larger than other phones of the same physical dimensions. Battery, processor, storage, etc. no limitations except no wireless charging. (except verizon version)
A play edition would be very tempting. Unfortunately it doesn't seem likely with the N5 being a somewhat close cousin. If the N5 had the exact same g2 hardware it would be a no-brainer for me even at a much higher cost.