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I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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muzz3256 said:
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.
So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!
The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.
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Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.
I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.
I did and I'm happy I did it.
I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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ok iI need some suggestions from people that actually know what they are talking about rather that reading some top 10 best blog on the web. I'm in the market for a New phone (Verizon) to replace my Droid Bionic. sound clarity is a must, fast processor dual or quad? big screen and rootable with decent Rom dev support.
Basically the phone is used for mainly business type apps, remote desktop, vpn etc. keeping up with my eBay bids bank balances on the go and just tinkering with the new roms and apps the devs entertained with. II do have aa couple of tablets (Asus Tf300t and aa galaxy tab 2 7") so the main priority for the phone is that it should work excellent as a phone. Clear, good signal reception, and good hands free operation (speaker phone, Bluetooth etc). aa large sd capacity also... iI know when iI got my last phone 16gg was almost standard but 32gg would be better
oh, also aa decent camera, I'm kinda a shutter-bug
so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, then iI can take your suggestions and do some in depth research and make an informed choice.
thank you for your time
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With the criteria you are going for I would suggest a HTC one X or a SGSIII which I am currently using. Sorry if my suggestions are bad I'm new to this as well.
rhe galaxy nexus is the best for you...it is easy to use verry fast in update and has a very decent 5 megapxl camera which act like 8+ mega pxl because of its quality...it has no shutter lag the time you oress the button the time it takes goodluck
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I agree
I have to agree with you on the Galaxy Nexus. Apart from all the features you've mentioned, its also a google designed and supported phone so it is supported and kept up by google meaning you have priority access to all new android OS releases
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rhe galaxy nexus is the best for you...it is easy to use verry fast in update and has a very decent 5 megapxl camera which act like 8+ mega pxl because of its quality...it has no shutter lag the time you oress the button the time it takes goodluck
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hi aaxiss! i've a galaxy nexus, and i advice you to buy it. you know google product=full supported :fingers-crossed: and olso devs start developing from it, so you have more rom, and stable first of all, to try i wish you have a good choose
Nexus or the SGSIII, SGSIII had bags of power
A decision has been made for you by these guys, of course including me :laugh: galaxy nexus
I have a galaxy Nexus and it's been a pretty dam good phone for the past 7 mouths. But since I loaded Jelly Bean 4.1.1 it's been a really great phone! Supper fast and smooth. So for the price I don't think you can beet it.
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I was just able to get a GNex as a replacement for my Stratosphere. I saw this topic and its replies and it honestly made my day. Thanks guys. So yeah... go with the Nexus!
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thank you everyone for your input, II have ordered the Gnex today ended up getting 2 of them for 99.00 ii have my mom on my acct an age has wanted aa smart phone for aa long time. ii have her an older moto droid xx and kept both new phones so ii can play around without worry. ii just flashed the droid back to base rom. if she really gets into it I'll get her aa better phone.
Although she is already complaining it's hard for her to read the tiny letters [email protected] the learning curve for her is going to be long I'm thinking. she has had the same Motorola flip phone for 4 years and just learned how to put it on speaker phone aa month ago lol.
any way.. thanks again for the help
oh as a side note ii also ordered aa Google nexus 7 tablet today for on the go android goodness as my transformer is just too big and bulky and it also has aa broken power button (stopped working after it got aa glass of water spoiled on it).
got my phones yesterday. just what ii wanted great phone.thanks again for the suggestions
If you are going to tinker with ROMs, Galaxy Nexus is the best choice. It is a Google flagship product, so it is used as a base for development of the new versions of Android. That is a guarantee of staying always up to date with new AOSP ROMs - and, surely, of the best support possible from the development community.
Regards.
Hey guys, for Christmas this year I was planning to get my mother a low cost "premium" 10inch Android tablet. She has previously been using a Viewsonic G-Tablet, mostly to just peruse shopping websites. She has been pretty great at navigating it, but the crappy screen, heavy weight, and just plain SSSLLLOOOOOWWWness have me wanting to get her a more name brand and reliable piece of hardware.
So that brings me here. I have been eyeing the TF300 for a while and Best Buy having it on a Black Friday sale is making me close to pulling the trigger. However, just looking over some threads here i'm seeing a few people cursing this tablet to death. So I want to check in with you guys, is this a reliable, low cost, quality option?
Don't forget, all I really need this thing for is solid web browsing, responsiveness, Google+ Hangouts, ease of use, and email.
Looking forward to everyone's input.
Yeah man get it..its been great so far no issues at all..google top 10, 10 inch tablets,its in the top 3 most of the time..(this is simply my opinion from my experience)
Ha, I'll probably get flamed for saying this but... get her an ipad. I love my TF but it's only because I've been rooted and unlocked since day one and have spent a bunch of time trying out new ROMs. Oh, and I run the stock browser with the 'ipad user-agent' because it just works better because people actually care about making sites ipad-friendly.
It seems like not everyone has the same experience with these, so it's hit-or-miss as to which you'll get. If it was me, and my wife wanted a new tablet and I didn't want to have to mess with it every time she complains of issues, I'd go with the ipad.
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Get the nexus 10! Can't go wrong with it!
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Well for non-techie I would recommend the ipad, it's extremely simple and you won't need to worry about some android stuff
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I'd say only go for it if the keyboard is a major selling point for her. If she can live without the keyboard dock, I'd get her the nexus 10.
I would go for it. Why not?! For what you're mom is going to be using it for is great. She's not going to be entering the Dead Trigger video game playoffs, and she's certainly not going to breach national security with it by hacking into the main frame of the NSA. (She's not going to, right?)
I know if I were to get this as a gift, I'd be saying COOL! Plus I'd be thankful that it wasn't an iPad2. Mom will love ya for it!!
Louis
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Nexus 10 or note 10.1. The transformer has I/O issues.
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I think that you have 2 solutions:
The first:
You bought an IPAD 1 or 2, cause it's simply efficient for someone who don't need the same need as us.
And the IPAD is 3G & Wifi.
Second:
You buy a TF300, you will unlock (or not), root for her.
I don't know if in US there is a big difference in price between the TF300 and TF700.
I wouldn't get it. its freakin slow unless its rooted with a custom rom. then it rocks!
Great responses guys. iPad wise, personal bias aside, she's not a fan of the aspect ratio. Not to mention it is killer to pay that "Apple tax" when I know I can go Android (she is also familiar with Android, currently using a Samsung Vibrant as a phone and like I said the Viewsonic) and get a better product for cheaper.
Now the Nexus 10 crossed my mind on announcement, but I think the price makes it slightly TOO premium for my wallet. $350 minimum plus tax and shipping for the Nexus vs $280+Tax and out the door for the Transformer on Black Friday. I'm currently using the Nexus 7 to write this, but she isn't a fan of the smaller form factor.
I'm curious about the poor I/O performance I've seen around here, how exactly is that manifesting in day to day use? Don't forget, she's coming from a Viewsonic G Tablet running a custom Froyo rom (JB too unstable). Surely we're looking at a huge speed increase, even with bad i/o performance? Just website browsing on Dolphin should be speedy right?
If you don't root or anything, stock browser doesn't perform too well. It hangs. Using other browsers helps but I only use chrome really and that's not even that good. Certainly worse than the nexus 7. The I/O issues do get annoying and there is lag in some places. Have you looked at the Note 10.1?
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Great responses guys. iPad wise, personal bias aside, she's not a fan of the aspect ratio. Not to mention it is killer to pay that "Apple tax" when I know I can go Android (she is also familiar with Android, currently using a Samsung Vibrant as a phone and like I said the Viewsonic) and get a better product for cheaper.
Now the Nexus 10 crossed my mind on announcement, but I think the price makes it slightly TOO premium for my wallet. $350 minimum plus tax and shipping for the Nexus vs $280+Tax and out the door for the Transformer on Black Friday. I'm currently using the Nexus 7 to write this, but she isn't a fan of the smaller form factor.
I'm curious about the poor I/O performance I've seen around here, how exactly is that manifesting in day to day use? Don't forget, she's coming from a Viewsonic G Tablet running a custom Froyo rom (JB too unstable). Surely we're looking at a huge speed increase, even with bad i/o performance? Just website browsing on Dolphin should be speedy right?
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I/o is terrible and affects normal web browsing. if you flash a custom its fixed but on stock it blows. I love mine rooted and custom.
if you flash cm10 stable + custom kernel its freakin fast... otherwise not so much,...
I have a stock tf300 and have no problems browsing using Dolphin. Dolphin is quick enough for me and it never crashes, even with lots of tabs open. Your mother will love it compared with what she has got now.
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I have a stock tf300 and have no problems browsing using Dolphin. Dolphin is quick enough for me and it never crashes, even with lots of tabs open. Your mother will love it compared with what she has got now.
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disagree about stock... my mother and wife has one and stock it frustrated BOTH of them. Flashed CM10 AND UT's kernel and they love it now.
Hi All,
To clarify, I used the search engine but didn't found any response to my question.
I have a Sony Xperia Play R800a and my 18 month contract just expired, my carrier just called me to ask for a renewal, they offered me the MOTOROLA RAZR HD for 200 USD on 18 month contract of 25 USD per month including data.
My question is... is it a good deal?
I was about to pull the trigger on the Galaxy Nexus on google play... but then I heard about Nexus 4 coming and decided to wait for it... after seeing the nexus 4... I was ready to pull the trigger again, but today I got the call from the carrier... and started to have second thoughts on it.
I have compared the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, Nexus 4, and RAZR HD, so far It seems Nexus 4 seems as the best deal followed closely by the S3... but I hate the non-expandable storage on the Nexus 4 and the price on the S3.
The thing is... if I sign again with my carrier I will save 150 instantly, (also the 200 USD down payment can be paid on a 12 month interest free plan)
Dear XDA member please let me know your feedback on this 18 month long choice... If you can suggest me which device is better for the price and also giving me more options... If there are any...
Thanks for your help.
Hexen2006
I owned the GS3, GNex, and RAZR HD maxx.
Of the 3, I would go with the Razr HD in the end. GNex after that. GS3 last. I can't speak for the Nexus 4, but I can't see it being that different than the GNex besides a respectable hardware buff since the GNex will get AOSP 4.2 in the near future.
Stock firmware on the S3 is complete crap IMO. A bunch of useless fluff and bloat, just flat out crappy. The hardware is nice, however.
GNex is great simply because it's stock AOSP. I'm assuming I don't need to explain why that's a good thing.
Razr HD is really impressive. ALMOST stock android, but not quite. The "Blur" intrusion is very much reduced compared to my previous motorola device (original Atrix 4G). Really the only major motorola influence I see are the stock mail app (not gmail), the settings menu, gallery, camera, and a widget or two. The dialer is a a bit different than AOSP but I can live with it.
Sure, most GS3s have an unlockable bootloader, but in my experiences most of the roms are plagued by bugs, however few and unobtrusive they may be. I've never ran a custom rom that just worked perfectly. And lets be honest, none of them provide any breakthrough features above and beyond the stock-from-google AOSP you get from a pure nexus device. Just my opinion.
If I could, I would run with the Nexus 4. But the lack of LTE was the big deal breaker for me. I won't get timely updates (ever?) on my RAZR HD. But that's ok. I've lost most interest in flashing custom ROMS and now I just want a smooth running device that works and I'm very happy with the RAZR HD.
I'll be the first to flop down $$$ for the next LTE Nexus device when it comes out, however.
Frankly all the devices you listed are great in their own right. Really it all comes down to your preferences. Fan of pure google AOSP? GO with Nexus. Like flashing custom ROMS? Nexus or GS3 are both good. Expandable storage? Removable battery? LTE? Just figure out the most important must-have features you require in a device and go with it.
Thanks holtenc,
I just checked with my carrier today, and apparently the RAZR HD is my only "real" option.
I asked about the Gnex, because I wanted to try "pure" android, but they told me they are low in stock and that Samsung will not replenish their inventory (maybe because of the Nexus 4 they have started to fade the Gnex out) but that if I really want one I should pay 550 USD and sign a 2 year contract... That definitely take the Gnex out of budget.
About the Galaxy S3, I need to pay 650 USD and a 18 month contract.... so same al Gnex... out of budget.
About Nexus 4, they don't have it on stock yet... it may take some time, but they told me he will be priced similar to Gnex. :S
I live in Mexico and we are not allowed to purchase devices on the google play store, so I tried the US store (using a VPN) and it is out of stock :S...
I guess the universe is pushing me to get the RAZR HD
Thanks
Have you tried places like swappa?
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nope, never heard of it... I will look at it... thanks for de advice!
Cool. I was on last week looking at GNexs and they had some for $200-350 U.S.
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Remember that if you upgrade with the discounted price, you will lose unlimited data if you had it, in case you are concerned about that.
I just bought the Razr Maxx HD and I am digging the phone so far. I have charged it once in the last 3 days with battery to spare. I had the Galaxy S3 but exchanged it for the Maxx HD. The GS3 felt more like a toy rather than something that I would carry with me everyday. The glossy and rounded form just wasn't my thing. The Maxx HD feels like a real phone and the UI is as close to AOSP (which you will get on the Nexus) as you are going to get from any other phone. Its sort of like holding a real handgun after playing with a water pistol. Touchwiz (Samsung) and Sense (HTC) are bloated and ugly.
Good luck with your decision.
This is kinda weird coming from a guy who has been a Samsung guy since the Captivate back in the day. I've had the OG Note, and I currently have a Note II.
I had the chance to get my hands on both the Note 3 and the Moto X side-by-side, and I have to say, I was more impressed with the Moto X overall.
Don't get me wrong though, I think the Note 3 is a fantastic device, but there were a couple of negatives that stood out to me and desuaded my purchase impulse.
1. Performance: I was VERY surprised by this one. I would have thought that with the Snapgradon 800 and 3GB of RAM, this device shouldn't even flinsh when it came to performance. Sadly, even my current Note II felt faster and smoother in a lot of instances. Web browsing, using Maps, and various other UI animations, etc, all felt way more jittery than I would have thought was acceptable. The Moto X on the other hand, could seriously give an iDevice a run for its money as far as real-world preformance and fluidity is concerned, just to give you an idea.
2. The new S-pen: Never mind all the new features; the new pen itself feels kinda flimsy compared to the previous generation. Seriously, I could feel the plastic of the whole pen flex under the pressure of just pressing the button.
3. Region locking: This is just the final straw for me. I travel a LOT, so this is a total deal breaker if I can't swap SIM cards from other regions. I don't know why Samsung decided to do this, but it was a bad move for this customer...
Honestly, in the brief time I had with both devices, the one thing that I will be sad about not having is that screen on the Note 3; it's simply a wonder to behold.
The Moto X has a great screen too, but it's no Note 3 by any stretch.
Anyway, that's all! Maybe the region locking can be sorted out by the dev community here, and hopefully the performance issues can be fixed with updates. Until then, my money isn't going to Samsung...
That's all!
Wow, I had completely different experience. I felt the note 3 was so much faster then the 2. Also Google maps recalculated do fast it almost mind boggling. One con I swear maps has a different annoying voice. But I might be crazy.
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Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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I haven't actually got my hands on a Note 3 yet, but I've used the Moto X side by side a Nexus 4, and I was disappointed in the Moto X.. and I find the Note 2 to handle better than the Nexus 4 (at least for what I get to do during the 30 minute play sessions). And so.. transitively, since the general consensus is that the Note 3 is a step up over the Note 2, I feel like the Note 3 would be a much more favorable option. But hey, it's your phone. As long as you're happy, everything is all good!
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This is kinda weird coming from a guy who has been a Samsung guy since the Captivate back in the day. I've had the OG Note, and I currently have a Note II.
I had the chance to get my hands on both the Note 3 and the Moto X side-by-side, and I have to say, I was more impressed with the Moto X overall.
Don't get me wrong though, I think the Note 3 is a fantastic device, but there were a couple of negatives that stood out to me and desuaded my purchase impulse.
1. Performance: I was VERY surprised by this one. I would have thought that with the Snapgradon 800 and 3GB of RAM, this device shouldn't even flinsh when it came to performance. Sadly, even my current Note II felt faster and smoother in a lot of instances. Web browsing, using Maps, and various other UI animations, etc, all felt way more jittery than I would have thought was acceptable. The Moto X on the other hand, could seriously give an iDevice a run for its money as far as real-world preformance and fluidity is concerned, just to give you an idea.
2. The new S-pen: Never mind all the new features; the new pen itself feels kinda flimsy compared to the previous generation. Seriously, I could feel the plastic of the whole pen flex under the pressure of just pressing the button.
3. Region locking: This is just the final straw for me. I travel a LOT, so this is a total deal breaker if I can't swap SIM cards from other regions. I don't know why Samsung decided to do this, but it was a bad move for this customer...
Honestly, in the brief time I had with both devices, the one thing that I will be sad about not having is that screen on the Note 3; it's simply a wonder to behold.
The Moto X has a great screen too, but it's no Note 3 by any stretch.
Anyway, that's all! Maybe the region locking can be sorted out by the dev community here, and hopefully the performance issues can be fixed with updates. Until then, my money isn't going to Samsung...
That's all!
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you saw both the note 3 and moto x in the states?
ChodTheWacko said:
Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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NOT TRUE.... Read the XDA thread at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45908977
and this report
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/03...laxy-s3-and-note-ii-after-android-4-4-update/
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My wife is using a Moto X on Verizon and I am on a TMO Note 3. Both are excellent phones and they suit both of our uses. Note 3 feels faster than the Moto X in my opinion, but not by much. My wife will probably say the opposite. Good choice with the Moto X. I can't see someone regretting that decision.
I'm going from note 2 to moto x as well. If the moto customizations with voice don't blow me away then I'll return for a note 3.
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avenging said:
you saw both the note 3 and moto x in the states?
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The AT&T store I went to last weekend had display units of both phones. I'm not sure if both were necessarily available for sale, but that wasn't the reason for going in there anyway; I just wanted to get some hands-on time with them side-by-side.
ChodTheWacko said:
Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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That is not true! It seems when you unlock it and then use another SIM it is still lock!
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Great get your moto x and have a nice life!! Lol
There is no way to compare this monster of a device to anything else really
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After all my complications with the Droid Razr I refuse to ever use Motorola again. Terrible terrible terrible experience. I have sent my phone in for repair/warranty more than 10x. The non-removable battery means it will go bad quickly and once it does, your kinda screwed. Hate my Droid Razr with a passion. Hopefully they've corrected their mistakes in the Moto X, but as far as I'm concerned I cant trust them to do it.
My wife is rocking the s4, and had the s3 before that. I've always been jealous of how well her phones worked so I decided to get the Note 3 . So this will be my first Samsung device, and hopefully I will have a good experience with it.
Good luck to ya, old chap. Don't see why you felt the need to tell us, but good luck anyhow.
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After all my complications with the Droid Razr I refuse to ever use Motorola again. Terrible terrible terrible experience. I have sent my phone in for repair/warranty more than 10x. The non-removable battery means it will go bad quickly and once it does, your kinda screwed. Hate my Droid Razr with a passion. Hopefully they've corrected their mistakes in the Moto X, but as far as I'm concerned I cant trust them to do it.
My wife is rocking the s4, and had the s3 before that. I've always been jealous of how well her phones worked so I decided to get the Note 3 . So this will be my first Samsung device, and hopefully I will have a good experience with it.
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my first experience with samsung was with the s2, and after the next two notes and I have always been happy with them :good:
when i first looked at the note 3 at AT&T last week the moto x surprised me. way to small for me to ever use but felt really nice and snappy
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when i first looked at the note 3 at AT&T last week the moto x surprised me. way to small for me to ever use but felt really nice and snappy
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Thought about the moto x, but have decided I can't have a phone without a removable battery. I travel a lot and being able to swap batteries is something I've gotta have.
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Thought about the moto x, but have decided I can't have a phone without a removable battery. I travel a lot and being able to swap batteries is something I've gotta have.
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True another big reason i didnt or havent bought an htc one. and also no sdcard slot kills it too. but phone felt really nice. if i didnt like 1080p and higher ppi screens and didnt care about size or sdcard and battery it would be a great device. moto was so close to having a home run. that phone with a 5" 1080p screen, removable battery and sdcard, and the dev support with unlocked bootloader etc etc phone would be a huge seller. i think that should be the next nexus phone.
Note II faster than Note 3 ?!?.
It never be.
Andrewtst said:
Note II faster than Note 3 ?!?.
It never be.
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THIS. dont know how people say this