Need advice... time to renew my plan, need to select a new phone - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
To clarify, I used the search engine but didn't found any response to my question.
I have a Sony Xperia Play R800a and my 18 month contract just expired, my carrier just called me to ask for a renewal, they offered me the MOTOROLA RAZR HD for 200 USD on 18 month contract of 25 USD per month including data.
My question is... is it a good deal?
I was about to pull the trigger on the Galaxy Nexus on google play... but then I heard about Nexus 4 coming and decided to wait for it... after seeing the nexus 4... I was ready to pull the trigger again, but today I got the call from the carrier... and started to have second thoughts on it.
I have compared the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, Nexus 4, and RAZR HD, so far It seems Nexus 4 seems as the best deal followed closely by the S3... but I hate the non-expandable storage on the Nexus 4 and the price on the S3.
The thing is... if I sign again with my carrier I will save 150 instantly, (also the 200 USD down payment can be paid on a 12 month interest free plan)
Dear XDA member please let me know your feedback on this 18 month long choice... If you can suggest me which device is better for the price and also giving me more options... If there are any...
Thanks for your help.
Hexen2006

I owned the GS3, GNex, and RAZR HD maxx.
Of the 3, I would go with the Razr HD in the end. GNex after that. GS3 last. I can't speak for the Nexus 4, but I can't see it being that different than the GNex besides a respectable hardware buff since the GNex will get AOSP 4.2 in the near future.
Stock firmware on the S3 is complete crap IMO. A bunch of useless fluff and bloat, just flat out crappy. The hardware is nice, however.
GNex is great simply because it's stock AOSP. I'm assuming I don't need to explain why that's a good thing.
Razr HD is really impressive. ALMOST stock android, but not quite. The "Blur" intrusion is very much reduced compared to my previous motorola device (original Atrix 4G). Really the only major motorola influence I see are the stock mail app (not gmail), the settings menu, gallery, camera, and a widget or two. The dialer is a a bit different than AOSP but I can live with it.
Sure, most GS3s have an unlockable bootloader, but in my experiences most of the roms are plagued by bugs, however few and unobtrusive they may be. I've never ran a custom rom that just worked perfectly. And lets be honest, none of them provide any breakthrough features above and beyond the stock-from-google AOSP you get from a pure nexus device. Just my opinion.
If I could, I would run with the Nexus 4. But the lack of LTE was the big deal breaker for me. I won't get timely updates (ever?) on my RAZR HD. But that's ok. I've lost most interest in flashing custom ROMS and now I just want a smooth running device that works and I'm very happy with the RAZR HD.
I'll be the first to flop down $$$ for the next LTE Nexus device when it comes out, however.
Frankly all the devices you listed are great in their own right. Really it all comes down to your preferences. Fan of pure google AOSP? GO with Nexus. Like flashing custom ROMS? Nexus or GS3 are both good. Expandable storage? Removable battery? LTE? Just figure out the most important must-have features you require in a device and go with it.

Thanks holtenc,
I just checked with my carrier today, and apparently the RAZR HD is my only "real" option.
I asked about the Gnex, because I wanted to try "pure" android, but they told me they are low in stock and that Samsung will not replenish their inventory (maybe because of the Nexus 4 they have started to fade the Gnex out) but that if I really want one I should pay 550 USD and sign a 2 year contract... That definitely take the Gnex out of budget.
About the Galaxy S3, I need to pay 650 USD and a 18 month contract.... so same al Gnex... out of budget.
About Nexus 4, they don't have it on stock yet... it may take some time, but they told me he will be priced similar to Gnex. :S
I live in Mexico and we are not allowed to purchase devices on the google play store, so I tried the US store (using a VPN) and it is out of stock :S...
I guess the universe is pushing me to get the RAZR HD
Thanks

Have you tried places like swappa?
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nope, never heard of it... I will look at it... thanks for de advice!

Cool. I was on last week looking at GNexs and they had some for $200-350 U.S.
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Remember that if you upgrade with the discounted price, you will lose unlimited data if you had it, in case you are concerned about that.

I just bought the Razr Maxx HD and I am digging the phone so far. I have charged it once in the last 3 days with battery to spare. I had the Galaxy S3 but exchanged it for the Maxx HD. The GS3 felt more like a toy rather than something that I would carry with me everyday. The glossy and rounded form just wasn't my thing. The Maxx HD feels like a real phone and the UI is as close to AOSP (which you will get on the Nexus) as you are going to get from any other phone. Its sort of like holding a real handgun after playing with a water pistol. Touchwiz (Samsung) and Sense (HTC) are bloated and ugly.
Good luck with your decision.

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pre order the htc one!!!!
wel, i had the atrix 4g and did alot with it. now i got the atrix 2. i like it more in terms of camera screen and overall feel and preformance, but this bootloader it bringing me down in terms of wanting more out of this awesome phone. so, with that said....around the ninth of may i will be leaving the atrix 2 threads as i have just pre ordered a htc one on [email protected] and will be moving there. the atrix 2 is going to a good friend as we are on aplan together but he has no knowledge of android so seeing that its already rooted and has a custom rom im sure ill he back off and on keeping him up to date with the latest and greatest i know this phone will get here soon. thanks devs for all the hard work for this device and maybe ill see a few of you in the htc one threads.
Unlocked Galaxy Nexus, no contract, $400 direct from Google. No brainer
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loved my atrix 4g. favorite phone ever. screen broke though and insurance didn't have any more so i had to get an atrix 2. build quality, screen and camera are better. sacrificed fingerprint sensor, battery life and slightly better processor for it though. also the dev support on the atrix 2 doesn't come close to the support for the OG atrix.
Galaxy S III
Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!
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Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!
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I'd get a Nexus just because the SIII is basically a beefier Nexus with TouchWiz 4.0 instead of straight ICS, but that's more personal preference than anything.
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Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!
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The Galaxy S III will be a great phone, they rooted it before it was even released and they already have an insecure kernel and boot image, so if you like ROMs and flashing. then that is the phone to get.
I will have a Galaxy S III the day it is released. I am in no way getting rid of the Atrix2, it will no longer be my daily driver, so I can hack the crap out the Atrix2, and get us some more great things, without having to worry about not being able to use my phone for an extended period of time, if I want to work on something over a whole weekend or something.
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loved my atrix 4g. favorite phone ever. screen broke though and insurance didn't have any more so i had to get an atrix 2. build quality, screen and camera are better. sacrificed fingerprint sensor, battery life and slightly better processor for it though. also the dev support on the atrix 2 doesn't come close to the support for the OG atrix.
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This is the boat I am in...my screen has gone bonkers, and my IT group wants to replace my Atrix with the Atrix 2. I had written off the A2 when they first gave me a choice...but this time I don't have a choice. Too bad because I have just about all the OG Atrix docks (car, lapdock, standard, HD, etc).
What I really want to know is whether or not I can modify the unit. With the OG Atrix now starting to see ICS with CM9 and AOKP, what will I be missing with the A2?
S3 or One X w'd be better choice
s3 comes with cheap build quality and One X lags in spite of its Quad core factor.
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kc92iyngr said:
S3 or One X w'd be better choice
s3 comes with cheap build quality and One X lags in spite of its Quad core factor.
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Honestly they are looking like the 2 strong contenders..... Sg3 boast a bit more cutting edge features and looks like one x does not have sd storage????? If I had the choice it would be Sg3 all day..... All boils down to preferences and needs do you need all Sg3 offers or would one x work for you.....
every htc phone sux in battery department....while SG3 Luks cheapish 4 a very high end phone ....i think sg2 is best and since price have gone down it more of a better choice...it can do everything what sg3 nd htc one x do....the only thing i t lacks is a hd display ....but seriously i saw htc one x nd SG2 hand to hand nd i dont notice any diffence in display pixel density....both look same....nothing big difference its just a hype of hd nothing more ......
justin
cool beans
I'm trying to decide if I should trade the Atrix 2 for a SGS2. Somebody at craigslits wants to trade. What do you think?
Shoot, I would take that offer.
nahuelarg86 said:
I'm trying to decide if I should trade the Atrix 2 for a SGS2. Somebody at craigslits wants to trade. What do you think?
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I've posted my MB865 both on eBay and on Craig's List, and no takers. I've set the price very low and still have no luck trying to offload it. Guess I will just choke down the $199.00 from AT&T with a new 2 year for the SGS3.
C'es la vie...
Best Buy will probably buy it from you. Now I'm glad that I got the "buyback guarantee" thing. Once my contract is up I'll get about $150 for it to put towards another phone...more if I go in earlier. Earlier's looking good.
just wandering what you want to do that you can't with the A2 besides use a new rom everyday?
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just wandering what you want to do that you can't with the A2 besides use a new rom everyday?
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AOSP and AOKP are not going to work unless we unlock the bootloader. That is what I really like... I think blur is clumsy and fat...
The ONLY things about this phone that are great is that it is solid, and the battery is amazing.
Developing anything on this phone is a pain... my sgs 3 will be here tomorrow or tues at the latest, and I already have a kernel and cm9 compiled and ready to test and release over there.
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Best Buy will probably buy it from you. Now I'm glad that I got the "buyback guarantee" thing. Once my contract is up I'll get about $150 for it to put towards another phone...more if I go in earlier. Earlier's looking good.
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I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and am curious - does Best Buy only buy back phones purchased from their store, or could I turn in my Atrix 2 purchased from an AT&T location?
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I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and am curious - does Best Buy only buy back phones purchased from their store, or could I turn in my Atrix 2 purchased from an AT&T location?
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No it does not have to have been bought at a best buy. I traded my HTC inspire that I bought at an AT&T corp store for the A2 and I had money left to buy a 32GB and a 64GB SDcard.
So basically I got the A2 and a 32GB SDcard, and a 64GB SDcard all for trading in my HTC Inspire 4g that was bought for 99 bucks at an AT&T corp store. So basically the phone was free and they gave me 2 SDcards with it...
Now I will say if you have ANY issues BB will screw you over, so be careful, and if you have an issue they will MAKE you get a geek squad monthly support contract... I told them to F-off, and took the first A2 that broke into the AT&T Corp store right across the street and AT&T still took care of me.
Oh, and I bought my SGS 3 from the AT&T website... no more BB after the issues with support even though it was 32 days after purchase.
I will say though, that if you need to trade your phone in to get another one, for money reasons, BB is the place to go. I have heard of certain AT&T corp stores doing trade ins, but the ones around me have never done that.

Goodbye G2x ! Hello Optimus L9!

I gave up on my G2x. Not going to wait for fully functioning ICS or even JB anymore. Even if we get it blue tooth will still be messed up.I'm Selling my P999 on EBAY. Never looking back. Until then I’m rocking a Dell Venue Pro and I'm liking the Windows Phone 7.5 , however I have to go back to Android though because WP7 is sooo limited and boring. Thinking about the L9. Not going to get a Nexus 4 because you cant replace the battery...no SDcard slot... and super crappy battery life. No Thanks.
Any of you guys getting a T-Mobile Optimus l9? What's your take on it?
Probably picking up a GS3 tomorrow. L9 is just another LG pile of failure. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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Probably picking up a GS3 tomorrow. L9 is just another LG pile of failure. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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I was thinking about the S3 but I decided I don't want town any phone with an Amoled display. The screens don't last long. That's exactly why HTC stopped making phones with Amoled. I'll stick to the longer more durable proven IPS displays. Samsung's answer is to make a Pentile RGBG display to offset the loss in colors over time and that's the best they can do right now. Amoled technology just isn't there yet. I'll wait until they can get all of the colors to be at least at 50,000 hours of operation until then Amoled is a no go.
ROFL. I just sold my G2x for $149.00 just a minute ago. I love Ebay!
Im also very very close to selling mines too. Im sticking with pure google nexus phones only
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Dimension2035 said:
Im also very very close to selling mines too. Im sticking with pure google nexus phones only
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All I ever wanted was ICS at least. Gingerbread sucks. At least the l9 gets 4.0.4. Hopefully at least one upgrade down the road to 4.1.1.
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All I ever wanted was ICS at least. Gingerbread sucks. At least the l9 gets 4.0.4. Hopefully at least one upgrade down the road to 4.1.1.
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I got a nexus 4 and I'm loving it! Don't by branded phones if you want updates
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Just sold one of my g2xs and now have a rooted HTC one s with jb 4.1.1 ROM. I like the g2x, never had any of the problems others had, and I prefer the gb UI to the jb UI. Also the voice search worked a lot better on the g2x, and the g2x is smaller. But I give up on the g2x ever getting jb, even though it's basically capable, and the upgrade to jb makes for a tremendous improvement in user satisfaction as related to speed and smoothness. LG has effectively cheated is out of a year more of use of our g2xs unless we are willing to put up with the maddening stuttering of the pre-jb Android, which comes off as a kluge compared to jb.
But beyond the improvement in speed and smoothness, every iteration of Android since gb has been a step downward in usability. The Android UI is now a make-work project for designers at Google and while it might look better, it's become harder and less intuitive to use. Leave well alone, for goodness' sake.
The One s is about as big a phone as is comfortable for me, and much thinner and lighter than the g2x. It looks like a skinny adolescent Nexus One. I had to take some shears to my SIM card, and it doesn't have an interchangeable battery or SD card, don't care about the battery but would like to have a SD card. The One s was about $100 less than a Nexus 4, and was available now. Haven't seen any problems with the AOKP jb ROM.
The speed of this phone plus the accessibility of TMO's 41Mbps HSPA+ network makes differences in browser speed very noticeable. That plus the impossibility of seeing bookmarks in list form in the jb browser means I'm now using Dolphin and Maxthon. The bookmarks thing is another fail of Google trying for what it thinks is good design. The apps drawer also now swipes sideways, what for?, and the launcher functionality in general. Including the handling of apps and widgets, has become very awkward. Thank goodness for nova and launcher pro.
I reckon it'll be a lot harder to get reliable updates for my rooted one s than for the Nexus 4 but the speed of the one s with 4.1.1 is very satisfying and the UI changes Google is now making are making the experience worse. So I have no incentive to update beyond my jb version, so no incentive to get a Nexus 4.
End of rant.
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Well I guess Google can't please everyone. Personally, I dislike GB and everything before it. JB is such a huge improvement that I prefer the broken JB ROMs to the fully functional GB ROMs.
I have found nothing unintuitive about the operating system so far. I've always been able to figure out how to do something by just doing what makes sense to me. I'm not a big user of bookmarks, mostly because nowadays the predictive URL history is good enough to make opening bookmarks slower than just typing a few letters into the URL bar and pressing enter. However, I don't mean to say they're completely useless; I just don't use them. In any case, Android was made in such a way that you have access to different browsers and can integrate them as if they're the native browser, so that problem has a solution. With the app drawer, sideways is much more consistent. You only ever access the app drawer from the home screen, which scrolls sideways, so it only makes sense to not make the user have to start scrolling a different way.
I don't intend for this post to say, "your opinion is wrong!" so don't take it that way. I just wanted to point out it's kind of unfair to hate on Google and call it their fault just because you don't like something. JB has been called the best thing to happen to Android by almost everyone I've talked to about it, so I think it's safe to say it's just personal preference that you don't like it.
To each his own
Nexus 4 would've been the way to go. Battery is lasting just as long as it was with my G2x... Around 15 - 16 hours with decent usage. (Lots of Facebook, XDA, browsing with Chrome, some Instagram, and 200+ sms messages.)
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ROFL. I just sold my G2x for $149.00 just a minute ago. I love Ebay!
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Wow nice what condition was it in? Ida del lime when this phone gets cm10 (to raise price a bit) or when I save enough for n4 . Problem is mind is kinda knicked. I bought it for 115 in June so I'll be happy with 100... if it sells at how much you sold it for then I'll be ecstatic lol
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Wow nice what condition was it in? Ida del lime when this phone gets cm10 (to raise price a bit) or when I save enough for n4 . Problem is mind is kinda knicked. I bought it for 115 in June so I'll be happy with 100... if it sells at how much you sold it for then I'll be ecstatic lol
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In mint condition. No scratches or blemishes what so ever, and to me that is amazing since its been a love and hate relationship with it. I felt like I wanted to throw it somtimes, lol! I dislike Gingerbread, but for other people its fine. I just want a phone with ICS fully working at least. I'm eyeing that L9. I was thinking about the Nexus 4 but too many people complaining about battery life. The L9's battery lasts all day with heavy use. The lack of an SD slot on the Nexus 4 doesn't help in its favor either.
Don't get me wrong, in some ways I'll miss my G2x. Sadly it's a good phone that LG left behind without an ICS update. It's a constant reminder that I'd like to forget.
Im curious about the phablet note 2...any tmobile peps notice they are now having everyone pay nearly full price for the phones on a value plan or $20 higher if you choose classic plan...what's up with that? Old upgrade procedure was when it was time to upgrade u got full discounted phone when renewing 2 yr agreement? Or am I missing something...
Sorry for getting off topic
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Im curious about the phablet note 2...any tmobile peps notice they are now having everyone pay nearly full price for the phones on a value plan or $20 higher if you choose classic plan...what's up with that? Old upgrade procedure was when it was time to upgrade u got full discounted phone when renewing 2 yr agreement? Or am I missing something...
Sorry for getting off topic
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I got mine for 200 with a 100 mail in rebate. Plus $50 gift card for a new line.
My bill is only 20 more than my 30 dollar unlimited plan and I actually have minutes now.
I sold my G2x for $120 cash, I got it for $150 back in June 2011 so it wasn't a huge loss.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I sold my G2x for $120 cash, I got it for $150 back in June 2011 so it wasn't a huge loss.
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I got mine in June 2011 for $84 with 2 year contract from new egg, I`ll keep it for now as a spare phone while playing with my N4:good:
booma428 said:
Im curious about the phablet note 2...any tmobile peps notice they are now having everyone pay nearly full price for the phones on a value plan or $20 higher if you choose classic plan...what's up with that? Old upgrade procedure was when it was time to upgrade u got full discounted phone when renewing 2 yr agreement? Or am I missing something...
Sorry for getting off topic
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Stay away from AMOLED phones. Why buy a phone with a display that will decay over time? LCD technology is well proven and mature, no screen decay and burn in. The color blue on an AMOLED display still suffers from the fastest decay. 12,000 hours or so. I say F-That! AMOLED is just not ready for consumer use yet. I shudder to think of anyone getting a AMOLED TV as well. If you want somthing that lasts stay LCD/IPS in a phone. Stay away from AMOLED devices right now.
im buying a SIM unlocked Galaxy Nexus for 280 with 2 spare batteries. good deal?
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im buying a SIM unlocked Galaxy Nexus for 280 with 2 spare batteries. good deal?
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I would just save the cash for a new n4
Yeah I thought so. I was offered 300 for a Toshiba laptop that's got a really nice body and a 3.8 core 2 duo. Cheaper than an Asus transformer
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Nexus 5 16gb vs LG G2 32gb same price!

Hi all,
I'm new to all this so please bare with me a little bit. I've used apple products for many years, but in getting a little sick of iOS7 and the lack of jaibreak. So I've decided to make the leap to android (something I never thought I would do).
I have my choices narrowed down to the Nexus 5 and LG G2. Both phones at currently available for $99 on 2 yr term. The Nexus only comes in the 16gb version while the G2 is 32gb for the same price. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I like the Nexus 5 because it gets the OS updates fast and won't require removal of bloat. It's also unlocked.
The G2 seems to have a slight hardware edge with battery life, camera and screen size. It's also 32gb, but it's not stock android and is carrier locked.
My question is, given the same price for both, is it better to get the nexus 5 or get the G2 and use a custom rom to mimic the stock nexus 5? Will it be a hassle to keep the G2 updated, and how bug free would the experience be?
Sorry if I'm in the wrong forum section, there's so many to choose from!
Thanks
SB
SillyBearito said:
Hi all,
I'm new to all this so please bare with me a little bit. I've used apple products for many years, but in getting a little sick of iOS7 and the lack of jaibreak. So I've decided to make the leap to android (something I never thought I would do).
I have my choices narrowed down to the Nexus 5 and LG G2. Both phones at currently available for $99 on 2 yr term. The Nexus only comes in the 16gb version while the G2 is 32gb for the same price. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I like the Nexus 5 because it gets the OS updates fast and won't require removal of bloat. It's also unlocked.
The G2 seems to have a slight hardware edge with battery life, camera and screen size. It's also 32gb, but it's not stock android and is carrier locked.
My question is, given the same price for both, is it better to get the nexus 5 or get the G2 and use a custom rom to mimic the stock nexus 5? Will it be a hassle to keep the G2 updated, and how bug free would the experience be?
Sorry if I'm in the wrong forum section, there's so many to choose from!
Thanks
SB
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They are not the same price, the G2 is like $600 because of all the monthly payments you have to make. I'd go with the Nexus 5 because once you buy it, you actually own it.
SillyBearito said:
Hi all,
I'm new to all this so please bare with me a little bit. I've used apple products for many years, but in getting a little sick of iOS7 and the lack of jaibreak. So I've decided to make the leap to android (something I never thought I would do).
I have my choices narrowed down to the Nexus 5 and LG G2. Both phones at currently available for $99 on 2 yr term. The Nexus only comes in the 16gb version while the G2 is 32gb for the same price. I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. I like the Nexus 5 because it gets the OS updates fast and won't require removal of bloat. It's also unlocked.
The G2 seems to have a slight hardware edge with battery life, camera and screen size. It's also 32gb, but it's not stock android and is carrier locked.
My question is, given the same price for both, is it better to get the nexus 5 or get the G2 and use a custom rom to mimic the stock nexus 5? Will it be a hassle to keep the G2 updated, and how bug free would the experience be?
Sorry if I'm in the wrong forum section, there's so many to choose from!
Thanks
SB
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Sound like you are on Sprint, right? I would say just get the Nexus 5 from the Play Store, and then sign up for the $60 BYOD on Sprint. You would end up saving more money. Also, I just don't like the LG skin, so I'm a little biased.
PS The battery life on the G2 is much much better than the N5 though, so that's something to think about too, if that's important to you.
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They are not the same price, the G2 is like $600 because of all the monthly payments you have to make. I'd go with the Nexus 5 because once you buy it, you actually own it.
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Not sure I follow. I'm in Canada on Rogers. I'm currently out of contract and don't really intend to switch carriers because my wife and I share a plan and she's locked in for 2 more years.
The hardware upgrade for either phone is $99 with a 2 year contract, I'm not changing plans or paying anything additional, just $99 to upgrade.
Well, if you were into the jailbreaking scene then you would most definitely be into rooting, custom roms etc. Therefore, I vote for the N5. Nexus = Endless possibilities. Also, with the new features implemented by many roms such as ParanoidAndroid, Cyanogenmod etc, you'd never get bored.
joshyth said:
Sound like you are on Sprint, right? I would say just get the Nexus 5 from the Play Store, and then sign up for the $60 BYOD on Sprint. You would end up saving more money. Also, I just don't like the LG skin, so I'm a little biased.
PS The battery life on the G2 is much much better than the N5 though, so that's something to think about too, if that's important to you.
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On Rogers in Canada. Battery life is a little important, but i almost always have a plug nearby to charge. Memory size is also a little important.
I'll most likely be rooting the G2 to bring it to the stock level of the N5. I'm just not sure how easy that is to do.
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Not sure I follow. I'm in Canada on Rogers. I'm currently out of contract and don't really intend to switch carriers because my wife and I share a plan and she's locked in for 2 more years.
The hardware upgrade for either phone is $99 with a 2 year contract, I'm not changing plans or paying anything additional, just $99 to upgrade.
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Then you have a tough decision to make, honestly. A huge advantage of the Nexus 5 is that it packs excellent specs into a device that is affordable off contract. Buying the Nexus subsidized on a contract kind of defeats this cost-saving advantage, as you'll end up paying quite a bit more for the device over your two year contract. Price-wise, you'd be getting a much larger subsidy if you bought the G2 on contract vs. the N5.
Now, comparing the devices: I prefer the look and feel of the N5 hardware over the G2, but the G2 has a better battery and camera. And I really dislike the button placement on the G2, though it doesn't seem to bother others. And other than these things they're neck and neck performance-wise. You'll get quicker Android updates, more xda development activitiy, and kit-kat out of the box with the Nexus 5.
I can't say much for the g2 since I haven't used it so my response would be biased.
However what I can say is go look at the G2 development forums for your carrier and compare that to the N5 development section here.
Personally I've been with the galaxy S line since its launch (Galaxy S Epic 4g, Galaxy s3 and Galaxy s4) and when the Nexus 5 launched at such a low price I just couldn't pass up the fact that its a "universal" phone where developers can create a ROM and it works for everyone easily. Where as my previous phones (and the G2) split the developers up based on their carrier. Some devs ported their ROMs to all carriers for their device and that is much respected but I feel the N5 being "universal" can't be beat if you're a software junkie like myself.
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I can't say much for the g2 since I haven't used it so my response would be biased.
However what I can say is go look at the G2 development forums for your carrier and compare that to the N5 development section here.
Personally I've been with the galaxy S line since its launch (Galaxy S Epic 4g, Galaxy s3 and Galaxy s4) and when the Nexus 5 launched at such a low price I just couldn't pass up the fact that its a "universal" phone where developers can create a ROM and it works for everyone easily. Where as my previous phones (and the G2) split the developers up based on their carrier. Some devs ported their ROMs to all carriers for their device and that is much respected but I feel the N5 being "universal" can't be beat if you're a software junkie like myself.
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I am a bit of a software junkie, but only to the point where I've customized my phone just the way I like it. If I can achieve that customization with the G2 and be able to maintain it without too many bugs then I may lean towards the G2. It's hard to pass up that extra battery life and storage capacity. Ugh this is a tough choice.
I'll take your advice and check the G2 forums though!
Thanks
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I am a bit of a software junkie, but only to the point where I've customized my phone just the way I like it. If I can achieve that customization with the G2 and be able to maintain it without too many bugs then I may lean towards the G2. It's hard to pass up that extra battery life and storage capacity. Ugh this is a tough choice.
I'll take your advice and check the G2 forums though!
Thanks
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Your welcome. By glancing at the g2 forums I don't see a KitKat ROM, not sure if that's important to you or not.
The way I see it is go with the G2 if battery life, Camera and Storage outweigh your needs for the best software.
I don't use the camera for anything professional so the n5 camera is plenty for me, the battery life doesn't matter because I have wireless charging plates I just throw my phone on around the house. And the storage is completely different for everyone but 16gb is enough for me currently (Can't have as many 1gb games installed but never played them all at once anyway on my s4)
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I'm in Canada on Rogers.
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I would say that's your biggest conundrum right there. Can't wait till my contract's up in Feb and I can go to Koodo or Virgin. Or perhaps not wait that long even and jump ship when I see a better deal
On-topic, as a noob to Android customization and a customer of Rogers, I would say go for the G2. It seems you wish to stay on-contract and you'd be getting the better deal hardware-wise.
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Kesmar88 said:
I would say that's your biggest conundrum right there. Can't wait till my contract's up in Feb and I can go to Koodo or Virgin. Or perhaps not wait that long even and jump ship when I see a better deal
On-topic, as a noob to Android customization and a customer of Rogers, I would say go for the G2. It seems you wish to stay on-contract and you'd be getting the better deal hardware-wise.
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I appreciate your input. It's not that I want I stay under contract, it's just more logical that way right now. And yes I fully agree on the hardware aspect. The only thing nexus has that's better is the software support. I'm eager to learn about rooting and using custom mods, buts it's hard to justify the nexus purchase just for that.
I did read somewhere that G2 will get KitKat eventually, maybe it'll get better?
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I appreciate your input. It's not that I want I stay under contract, it's just more logical that way right now. And yes I fully agree on the hardware aspect. The only thing nexus has that's better is the software support. I'm eager to learn about rooting and using custom mods, buts it's hard to justify the nexus purchase just for that.
I did read somewhere that G2 will get KitKat eventually, maybe it'll get better?
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LG is planning to release KitKat eventually, but there's no set date. Also, from prior experience, if you're going to rely on official OTA updates, Rogers is the worst on releasing them in a timely manner. My prior phone was an S2 LTE (Skyrocket) and it was the last one out of the S2 family to upgrade to ICS, not to mention it was not optimized at all and actually ran worse than Gingerbread. Thankfully, it was all good when the JB update showed up but that took a while as well. Since I'm not getting KitKat on it, I bought the N5 off the play store since carriers are only carrying 16 GB.
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LG is planning to release KitKat eventually, but there's no set date. Also, from prior experience, if you're going to rely on official OTA updates, Rogers is the worst on releasing them in a timely manner. My prior phone was an S2 LTE (Skyrocket) and it was the last one out of the S2 family to upgrade to ICS, not to mention it was not optimized at all and actually ran worse than Gingerbread. Thankfully, it was all good when the JB update showed up but that took a while as well. Since I'm not getting KitKat on it, I bought the N5 off the play store since carriers are only carrying 16 GB.
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I can see the issue there. I'm hoping to not rely on Rogers and their OTA and just root it and update it myself. That reminds me, I should prob expect even more bloat with Rogers.
Or I could just go with the nexus and never have to worry about that.
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LG is planning to release KitKat eventually, but there's no set date. Also, from prior experience, if you're going to rely on official OTA updates, Rogers is the worst on releasing them in a timely manner. My prior phone was an S2 LTE (Skyrocket) and it was the last one out of the S2 family to upgrade to ICS, not to mention it was not optimized at all and actually ran worse than Gingerbread. Thankfully, it was all good when the JB update showed up but that took a while as well. Since I'm not getting KitKat on it, I bought the N5 off the play store since carriers are only carrying 16 GB.
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As noted before if you want the quickest updates (official and unofficial) than the n5 is a must, if you want to take a lot of pictures than the camera on the G2 and storage space is better at that.
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Have you thought about getting a Iphone 5s on contract, selling it, then buying the nexus 5? I would do that instead of getting the nexus 5 directly from the carrier. That way you end up with extra money in your pockets since you can sell the Iphone for more then the nexus 5 costs from the play store.
hammester said:
Have you thought about getting a Iphone 5s on contract, selling it, then buying the nexus 5? I would do that instead of getting the nexus 5 directly from the carrier. That way you end up with extra money in your pockets since you can sell the Iphone for more then the nexus 5 costs from the play store.
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This is a great idea. Take a look at the resale value of the phones available without a contract. Pick the one that gives you the best profit and do that. Use the money to buy a Nexus 5 if you like the phone. I did that recently and actually have another $100 extra to spend on accessories.

Taxmas upon us you keeping s4 or moving on + best buy offer.

Now that it's tax time are you sticking with the s4 or are you moving on. Also best buy is giving you a $50 gift card if you sign up on website. So what are you doing???
https://www-ssl.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17413&type=page&promoCode=RESERVE3 sign up for offer before February 15
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erstad said:
Now that it's tax time are you sticking with the s4 or are you moving on. Also best buy is giving you a $50 gift card if you sign up on website. So what are you doing???
https://www-ssl.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17413&type=page&promoCode=RESERVE3 sign up for offer before February 15
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Thanks for the Best Buy tip. I was hoping that they'd do that again this year. I'll probably get the S5 when it rolls out and I was thinking about the smart watch 2. I realize that the bootloaders will be locked down, but I'm sure that folks here can get us root (always have before), and that's what I usually just end up doing anyway......haven't really messed with roms much since my Captivate.
My last day with the S4, My LG G2, comes in tomorrow, 350$ for a brand new G2, I call it a steal. It'll have pretty much the same internals as the S5 as far as I can tell, Snapdragon 800, 2GB of RAM, etc, The only place where I see the S5 perhaps having a better spec is if it has 3GB, of RAM, but That's something I can live with for a 500$ savings on My end. The KnockON feature on the G2 Seems killer. Seems like the phone I Should've gotten all along. The lag with the S4 is a pain in the butt.
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I've gotten the moto x. Probably one of the best phones I've ever owned. Don't look at it as a downgrade and you can pick these phones up for a steal. In real life situations this has got to be the perfect phone. When you see something quick and want to snap a picture with wrist twist you can open up your camera and snap a picture without having to turn on the phone all in 2 seconds. Active notifications shows who texted you or emails, etc plus the time. Touch less control works well when your driving and have to call or text someone without taking your eye off the road plus a bonus active assist that will also read your text messages to you while your driving. Not much bloatware bogging down this device with stock android. I chose this over the nexus 5.
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I don't personally own a moto X, but my company uses them (I ordered and set them up) and I'm inclined to agree with you. The moto X, regardless of its specs, is one of the best phones out there. It's fast, has a beautiful screen, great battery life and great build quality. Though there are a few little quirks that aren't that big a deal, but that little phone is comparable to my S4 or Note 2 (both running cm11) in overall usability
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Could this not have gone here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433789

[Q] G2 $399 at T-Mobile - a good deal?

I see it's available for $399 at T-Mobile. So $200+ less than the current "flagship" phones that are pretty boring IMO.
Do you guys still like the G2? Is it easy to root? Any problems with it other than the weird buttons on the back?
I took a look at it at a local corporate store. The one on display was messed up and the rep of course told me it was a "bad" phone and I needed to get an s5.
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starfcker69 said:
I see it's available for $399 at T-Mobile. So $200+ less than the current "flagship" phones that are pretty boring IMO.
Do you guys still like the G2? Is it easy to root? Any problems with it other than the weird buttons on the back?
I took a look at it at a local corporate store. The one on display was messed up and the rep of course told me it was a "bad" phone and I needed to get an s5.
Thanks!
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50 views and no replies. I'm going to pass on the G2 and wait for the Moto x+!
The phone is nice ! I've had it since February. I have no complaints about the phone however when the the g3 comes out we are going back to Verizon because T-Mobile just isn't cutting it. I had no issues rooting it and the buttons on the back were weird at first but now are natural to me. One thing though these forums are dead not a lot of development like I was used to coming from the note 2 . but like I said I think its a great phone
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Shaffer678 said:
The phone is nice ! I've had it since February. I have no complaints about the phone however when the the g3 comes out we are going back to Verizon because T-Mobile just isn't cutting it. I had no issues rooting it and the buttons on the back were weird at first but now are natural to me. One thing though these forums are dead not a lot of development like I was used to coming from the note 2 . but like I said I think its a great phone
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I'm concerned about lack of development - rooting Kit Kat. Thanks.
The regular g2 forum is pretty active. Development for t-mobile seems like it kind of sucks. Good luck.
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I've been a loyal T-Mobile customer for over 10 years, the last 8 without a contract. So I've been able to leverage my status as a long-time user to secure for myself an outstanding price for my unlimited data plan that no other carrier comes remotely close to matching. That said, I got my G2 on Sunday after my trusty Amaze was stolen from my car on Friday night while fueling-up on my way home from work.
I walked into the T-Mobile store with the intention of getting a Nexus 5, but left with the G2. For the same price there is no comparison. The longer battery life, better sound quality and camera, along with the doubled storage capacity sold me. I personally can't justify spending more than 400 bucks for any handset that will be obsolete in a couple of years and with performance and features that rival those devices that cost over $200 more, I thought it was a no brainer.
As far as the comments about lack of development are concerned, it doesn't bother me. I plan on compiling my own Cyanogenmod, Pac-ROM, and Evervolv as soon as I get bored with stock and get time off from work. Besides, in the few days I've used this device I've found its OS to be one of the best stock Android I've ever used (I like it way more than any version of Sense that I've used). It doesn't deviate too far from ASOP yet has additional tweaking that is normally only found in custom ROMs. In fact, if I can get some time to figure out how to root and install a compatible aftermarket recovery, I might just deodex and debloat it and leave it as is for awhile.
As I said, at its current $398 price point it's got more bang for the buck than any of the other handsets T-Mobile is selling.
Just my 2 cents
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I considered nexus 5, galaxy 4, htc m8 and lg g2. I came from nexus 4 and the battery life was close to my previous iphone 4s. lg g2 is almost 3 times longer than nexus 4 with one charge. So, nexus 4 is removed from list. HTC is great but the price difference is huge and so it is out. Samsung 4 price was higher, galaxy s3 price was close to lg g2. After checking specs, performance, battery, lg g2 is a clear winner.
So far i have only 2 minor issues.
Swiftkey app is not compatible with this and causes lots of FC. It took me a week to figure out what was causing the FC. I have to update to a beta and then uninstall it - now no issues so far.
3 out of 5 times, i hit the home button when trying to type space in the keyboard. I installed g3 keyboard - has lots of options, so far good.
If you have about $400 or so in your pocket, I highly recommend this phone.
I believe this phone is capable of the future tmobile Voice Over LTE. But I am not sure if this will handle the 700hz band that tmobile is planning to implement - recently they bought from verizon. When i tried the hidden menu, that band is not available - but specs say it is compatible. May be it will show up if I unlock the phone or if install a non-stock ROM??
So, it is future proof at least for some time .....

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