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[Q]Buy this or wait for Galaxy Nexus

I currently have an Infuse 4G and after having a phone with 4.5" display I dont think I could ever have another phone with smaller display. I'm not in an LTE are but frequently travel to multiple LTE areas in Texas. I have my money saved up for the Galaxy Nexus Unlocked but I'm really almost tired of waiting. I've kinda been looking at these forums off and on waiting to see if this phone is gonna get any love cause I really like the "idea" of it. You guys think it will get its own forums and any dev work soon. Cause the Galaxy Nexus ship might just be sinking for me...
Tired of waiting on Google/Samsung's Failed Launch...
New phones are like my crack I just gotta have em.

I doubt AT&T will subsidize the galaxy nexus. What is likely to happen is google will sell it to you unsubsidized and AT&T will let you use it on their network. The nexus line has never been available on a carrier at launch until verizon.

Yeah I know that, I dont have an available upgrade right now anyway I had planned on purchasing the Nexus outright, and would do the same for the skyrocket if I decided to go that route i'm trying to get a feel for the phone is there gonna be any love from xda in the way of some forums and any devs coming this way is what I want to know.

justanothernoob said:
Yeah I know that, I dont have an available upgrade right now anyway I had planned on purchasing the Nexus outright, and would do the same for the skyrocket if I decided to go that route i'm trying to get a feel for the phone is there gonna be any love from xda in the way of some forums and any devs coming this way is what I want to know.
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i had the same dellima...... But if your going to pay FULL price for either phone.
Hit up BESTBUY i bought the Skyrocket full price on the (BUYBACK PROGRAM) if the Galaxy Nexus or Note drop within 6 months i can take it back and get 50% of what i paid for the phone back and apply that to the next phone. so ina sence your still only paying FULL price for 2 phones.....
a win win in my book becuase i will be getting either one of those when they drop.

the2rrell said:
i had the same dellima...... But if your going to pay FULL price for either phone.
Hit up BESTBUY i bought the Skyrocket full price on the (BUYBACK PROGRAM) if the Galaxy Nexus or Note drop within 6 months i can take it back and get 50% of what i paid for the phone back and apply that to the next phone. so ina sence your still only paying FULL price for 2 phones.....
a win win in my book becuase i will be getting either one of those when they drop.
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Or you could upgrade to an iphone 4s and use it for a little while because they have a good resale value and won't be outdated in at least a year.
But consider these cons about the nexus:
No microsd
Old GPU/not cutting-edge CPU
Thick
Only 5MP
Will be even more outdated by the time it comes out

Daedalus_ said:
Or you could upgrade to an iphone 4s and use it for a little while because they have a good resale value and won't be outdated in at least a year.
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1. It doesn't have LTE
2. It doesn't have 4.5 inch screen which he wants.
Read the original post.

war eagle said:
1. It doesn't have LTE
2. It doesn't have 4.5 inch screen which he wants.
Read the original post.
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Nvm. 10char

I was in the exact same boat and ultimately pulled the trigger on the Skyrocket. My rationale at the end was that the only tangible improvements out there for this phone would be screen resolution and form factor. Other than that, its pretty future proof and should hold value well if I want to resale.
Absolutely love it so far.
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I'm really tempted to go ahead and get this. I really like having an sd card slot on my phones and the lack of gorilla glass on the nexus is kinda scary also. Not to mention that it steps down to a 5mp camera. However the development for the nexus is going to be nice and the vanilla andriod. I'd pull my hair out if I had any....

There will be some development for this and a lot for the Nexus. Nexus accessories started popping up at Verizon Stores so that may be a sign of things to come as far as the unlocked version as well.

Sorry, what I meant to say earlier is that when the nexus comes out unsubsidized a good option would be to buy an iphone 4s subsidized and sell it on ebay to get the nexus for a subsidized price. The vanilla ICS and developer compatibility of a nexus trumps all its cons IMO, but I couldn't wait any longer.

I am very glad to hear that many many others are in the same boat as myself. I have done my research, and on pg 138 of the usermanual for the skyrocket it says that the phone does have NFC, but it will be activated at a later time... maybe for ICS and Android Beam?
I am coming from a Nexus S, on ATT when it was free at Best Buy about 3 months ago... and I am lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend that will give me her upgrade and let her have my Nexus S.
I think I am going to take the plung with some of you today and buy a Skyrocket, though I am near DC... I'm not sure if I'll get good LTE.
Good tidings!

toonhead85 said:
I am very glad to hear that many many others are in the same boat as myself. I have done my research, and on pg 138 of the usermanual for the skyrocket it says that the phone does have NFC, but it will be activated at a later time... maybe for ICS and Android Beam?
I am coming from a Nexus S, on ATT when it was free at Best Buy about 3 months ago... and I am lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend that will give me her upgrade and let her have my Nexus S.
I think I am going to take the plung with some of you today and buy a Skyrocket, though I am near DC... I'm not sure if I'll get good LTE.
Good tidings!
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Good choice bro and you gottanlove the ladies i always get the upgrades lol the women know it means more to us :-$
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There are several reasons not to go with the galaxy nexus. It doesn't have the true Super AMOLED screen that the gs2 has, so the screen will be duller. The screen doesn't have gorilla glass, so it will be more likely to break or shatter. The larger screen may be nice if you like it, but it means lower resolution. Plus, the real advantage of it, ICS, is close to irrelevant if you have cyanogenmod on your phone.

QuarkGluonSoup said:
There are several reasons not to go with the galaxy nexus. It doesn't have the true Super AMOLED screen that the gs2 has, so the screen will be duller.
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Uh... what? It has a 1280x720, 4.65", Super AMOLED display. The screen's lightyears better than what any SGS2 series phone has.

k0nane said:
Uh... what? It has a 1280x720, 4.65", Super AMOLED display. The screen's lightyears better than what any SGS2 series phone has.
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This is TRUE......the screen will be amazing.
that coupled with ICS i can see ALOT of people jumping on this when it drops......or the NOTE

and the screen is CURVED! That's in it self is a selling point!
I have another upgrade...but I figure I get a S2 now and use that upgrade for the Prime... IF it comes to AT&T... if it does it probably will be a while after the initial release
The ONLY thing that is putting me off is the lack of the external SD card. I had an i4 and I REALLY hated the fact that when I want to get something from my phone I have to connect it and pull it off.
Otherwise to me.. the Nexus Prime is the one to have.

mbze430 said:
and the screen is CURVED! That's in it self is a selling point!
I have another upgrade...but I figure I get a S2 now and use that upgrade for the Prime... IF it comes to AT&T... if it does it probably will be a while after the initial release
The ONLY thing that is putting me off is the lack of the external SD card. I had an i4 and I REALLY hated the fact that when I want to get something from my phone I have to connect it and pull it off.
Otherwise to me.. the Nexus Prime is the one to have.
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Or instead of external sd card, you could get a box account or some sort of a cloud account. i put all my pictures, tweaks, kernels, modems, apks, themes the only thing i have a problem with is actual ROMs because there to big at times.
but thats 50 gig of free space i can access from ANY phone.....

Bye Bye Birdy

If you are like me and don't like threads saying bye to the sub-forum because the user is changing devices feel free to skip the whole rest of this. I usually don't like those threads either.
However, with tongue firmly planted in cheek:
I'm ditching this Droid Charge because:
It didn't wash the windows
It didn't bring about world peace (yes that comes after washing the windows. I likes some clean windows, I do.)
It didn't feed the hungry or clothe the nekked...and man some of those ugly people need some clothes! Why won't this phone stop the insanity?
It didn't provide notifications while the sender was typing the message or before. Really, I would have rather had the notification before the sender woke up that day.
The voices in the phone kept talking to me and I didn't like what they had to say. "If you would like to make a call..."
I couldn't find the Any Key. Hell, I couldn't find any keys period. There were a couple of buttons, but no keys. How the hell am I supposed to open locks without any key?
The battery wouldn't charge itself. I mean, come one. Why is this too much to ask? I just want a phone that absorbs energy from the room...preferably from iPhones. I'd love it if my friend's iPhones batteries would die even faster when my phone was in the room. The OEM developers really dropped the ball on this one.
All kidding aside: This Droid Charge hasn't been stable since I got it. It was 10x better than the Fascinate garbage I came from. I've loaded ROM after ROM and some work better than others. All of them are better than the stock experience and the XDA / RootzWiki developers have my thanks for their help and time. I've had stability problems from day one and even once I'd get them ironed out stability problems would come back regardless of kernel. I've reloaded the PIT and stock ROMS plenty of times. I haven't overclocked or undervolted and this thing acts like I'm running an aggressive scheme.
So, I'm jumping ship to the Droid Razr Maxx. It will be here on Tuesday. Maybe I can sell this thing on eBay for a few bucks with the docks and extra batteries. I didn't want a Motorola phone, but I haven't been impressed with the chances I've given Samsung, so time to try something new. I'm glad that the Droid Razr Maxx has the Super AMOLED screen.
So long and thanks for all the fish.

I envy you....i will wait one year with the phone before i start harrassing vzw for an early upgrade.
Droid Charge 4G LTE

I've been looking myself as well for an upgrade too but my official upgrade doesn't come for another year. My line isn't the "master line" in the family plan that my line is part of. Also, I think we got the family plan after they stopped offering early upgrades for the "master line."
So that means I do one of the following...
Hit up eBay and see if I can get a phone there at a decent price. I'm hoping I can snag a Galaxy Nexus but some of the prices for those phones are going ridiculously high.
Save up and buy the phone at full price.

trparky said:
I've been looking myself as well for an upgrade too but my official upgrade doesn't come for another year. My line isn't the "master line" in the family plan that my line is part of. Also, I think we got the family plan after they stopped offering early upgrades for the "master line."
So that means I do one of the following...
Hit up eBay and see if I can get a phone there at a decent price. I'm hoping I can snag a Galaxy Nexus but some of the prices for those phones are going ridiculously high.
Save up and buy the phone at full price.
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check out Swappa, or follow any of the "big" devs on twitter as they usually relay messages for people trying to sell devices
blazing through on my Nexus Prime via XDA app

I had to sat good bye also. Didnt have an upgrade so paid retail for 2 razr maxx. It has been the best phone to date for me atleast. Stock or Rooted it is a great phone and havent had a complaint. By the way I have 2 charges for sale with extras if anyone interested.

Congrats on being able to switch. We all should expect/own a phone that works. For some, the Charge fits the bill. Unfortunately, for others, the Charge is plagued by many flaws.
Personally, I'm waiting for CTIA(and whenever Samsung's event is) to see what's available for Verizon. I have an early upgrade available, but I'll wait it out.
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The charge is a nice phone but as people say it just doesnt work or fit my needs.

Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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luis86dr said:
Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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Me too.......

That is the best Verizon phone right now. Luckily my charge has been good to me. Looking forward to quad core, 720p, zero delay cam when I get my upgrade in Jan.
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luis86dr said:
Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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Same here...think I might wait for the next gen of razor maxx...maybe a asop maxx...even better battery life without blur
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JihadSquad said:
Me too.......
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Well everyone that said that their gps worked for them no problem it never worked for use. It took forever. When my wife travels she takes enough stuff with her and needed something that worked. With the maxx we got everything we needed. A phone that locked on within 30 seconds, battery life that is incredible. Most everything we needed was there. People will say buy used. With new we get a warranty and the assurion protection. These can be used for a write off as a business expense.

Scored a Samsung Galaxy Nexus for $400 on Craigslist. I already verified the ESN with Verizon and they say that the ESN is clean. In an hour or so I'm going to be going with a friend of mine to go pick the phone up in a Verizon Retail Store to have the phone checked out by a Verizon store representative as well as activate it on my account.
It has been a nice ride with the Droid Charge but it is time to move on and getting a Galaxy Nexus for $400 is like a dream come true. It is a steal of a deal.

We will definitely miss you... you've been 1 of the better ones around here for a long time.... you have helped more people than I can count... enjoy your new phone you deserve it...
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

I'm waiting until the next set of phones to come out I want a keyboard phone like the droid 4 but will wait and see if something else hits the market I love my stratosphere but it just feels way to old now I love it and is still the best phone I ever had but its time to get something else new I'm worried about switching to motorola as there phones are hard to root and have locked boot loaders
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I'll stay around here helping people with this phone. I'm not going to take down my one Android site with all of the helpful info on it, that would be a great disservice to the community. I'm going to be keeping the Droid Charge for tinkering and whatnot.

trparky said:
Scored a Samsung Galaxy Nexus for $400 on Craigslist. I already verified the ESN with Verizon and they say that the ESN is clean. In an hour or so I'm going to be going with a friend of mine to go pick the phone up in a Verizon Retail Store to have the phone checked out by a Verizon store representative as well as activate it on my account.
It has been a nice ride with the Droid Charge but it is time to move on and getting a Galaxy Nexus for $400 is like a dream come true. It is a steal of a deal.
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Good deal, iprob would have done the same. Stop back to the charge forum someday, well have cake and icecream for your return.
Charge-TwStock ? / Bought this app!

trparky said:
I'll stay around here helping people with this phone. I'm not going to take down my one Android site with all of the helpful info on it, that would be a great disservice to the community. I'm going to be keeping the Droid Charge for tinkering and whatnot.
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Glad to hear it....
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

I wouldn't buy moto personally, others seem to like it and from the looks of it it's really smooth. After playing with my moms droid 4, it seems blur makes everything difficult and things aren't as easy to set\ find things (probably been on touchwiz too long and need to explore others). My sister likes her droid 3 and my mom loves hers D4, I hope you will too with the MAXX. Good luck, enjoy that awesome machine!

By the looks of how technolgy for android is acknowledging upgrading our batterys to high mah batterys it seems more of these companys will follow motos lead. Especially since 4g practically destroys these batterys. By the time I have a upgrade devices with quad core and better batterys should be available. Kinda worth the wait.
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Buy Verizon SGS3 for $150, or hold out?

Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)

rpn377 said:
Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)
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There might be some new phones, they just announced the Droid Razr HD and Droid Razr Maxx HD, they might be getting a nexus device but who knows. I doubt the price will drop until maybe next January. I say go for it. Its an awesome phone.

I see no need to hold out. Only thing coming to think about imo is the Razr HD/Maxx HD, but to me neither one is better than the S3

DertyDOH said:
I see no need to hold out. Only thing coming to think about imo is the Razr HD/Maxx HD, but to me neither one is better than the S3
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I noticed the new droids... my sister has a Droid 3. It sucks though, cause she's stuck on gingerbread and it's not a popular phone for customization. From what i read (And experienced), motorola is horrible for tweaking, while samsung is the best with htc in 2nd.
Since this phone has an unlocked bootloader now, and also has GSM radio, that's a big plus for me.
I just don't want this phone to fall another 50$ right after i buy it, especially with iphone 5s coming out soon competing with it.
Do you guys know if there's an even cheaper way to get it other than 150$?

rpn377 said:
I noticed the new droids... my sister has a Droid 3. It sucks though, cause she's stuck on gingerbread and it's not a popular phone for customization. From what i read (And experienced), motorola is horrible for tweaking, while samsung is the best with htc in 2nd.
Since this phone has an unlocked bootloader now, and also has GSM radio, that's a big plus for me.
I just don't want this phone to fall another 50$ right after i buy it, especially with iphone 5s coming out soon competing with it.
Do you guys know if there's an even cheaper way to get it other than 150$?
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Nope i got mine last week for $200 so I'd say your getting a good deal.

@fr8cture return and buy it again! get your $50 back!
@rpn its probably not going to sink any further than $150 with a new contract for a while. The only reasons I can think of holding back is to wait for the 64GB model (which may or may not be sold by verizon)
Whatever you do, make sure you refuse to give up an unlimited data plan if you currently have one! Make sure the salesman knows its a deal breaker (even if its really not)

rpn377 said:
Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)
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With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.

chamberc said:
With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.
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Are you kidding me with this SG4 crap? Its a good 5 or more months away.

fr8cture said:
Nope i got mine last week for $200 so I'd say your getting a good deal.
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I paid $515 on eBay, so I say you both got good deals lol....that said, I haven't thought twice about paying that price, and doesn't bother me people get it much cheaper on upgrade prices

Is this for the 16 or 32 gig model?

The new Motorola droids are identical to the s3 spec wise. In my opinion Motorola typically has better reception than I have had with the s3. But if you like to mod, there will definitely be a better following with the s3, and aftermarket accessories will be more widely available. The other upside to moto is the amazing battery life of the maxx.
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DertyDOH said:
I paid $515 on eBay, so I say you both got good deals lol....that said, I haven't thought twice about paying that price, and doesn't bother me people get it much cheaper on upgrade prices
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Its because i signed a 2 year
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pakee001 said:
The new Motorola droids are identical to the s3 spec wise. In my opinion Motorola typically has better reception than I have had with the s3. But if you like to mod, there will definitely be a better following with the s3, and aftermarket accessories will be more widely available. The other upside to moto is the amazing battery life of the maxx.
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The new droids do look really appealing. Huge battery nice display and a almost non skinned version of android.

chamberc said:
With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.
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You're off your rocker. The GS3 just came out not even 2 months ago. It'll be at least Q2 2013 before we see the GS4. You're a fool to think it's right around the corner.

mustbepbs said:
You're off your rocker. The GS3 just came out not even 2 months ago. It'll be at least Q2 2013 before we see the GS4. You're a fool to think it's right around the corner.
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Yep I'd be surprised if it came out before October 2013. The reason this was out so soon in my opinion is because the amount of carriers that got it. Everyone threw money as Samsung, so instead of only a few getting it like the GS2, pretty much everyone did this time around.
Also if you want a phone with customization do not buy a Motorola. They already confirmed that developer editions of these phones will be coming out for $500+ . Coming from a X2, no one could unlock that thing.

I think you can wait for a period of time.

Elite49 said:
Yep I'd be surprised if it came out before October 2013. The reason this was out so soon in my opinion is because the amount of carriers that got it. Everyone threw money as Samsung, so instead of only a few getting it like the GS2, pretty much everyone did this time around.
Also if you want a phone with customization do not buy a Motorola. They already confirmed that developer editions of these phones will be coming out for $500+ . Coming from a X2, no one could unlock that thing.
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Can't you just root it? Someone would have to find a way to unlock bootloader but still.

SG3 is now $139 on Amazon wireless. I just got one.

What is there to even consider, this is totally a no-brainer... DO IT man!

S3 specs are lightyears away from any phones i foresee coming out in the next 3-4 months.

This is going to be THE phone until its replacement comes out. I would be amazed if we don't see a nexus by the end of the year, but if you are Verizon don't even bother looking at it. And I personally don't think it is worth waiting. The S3 has gotten awesome support and is such an awesome piece of hardware that you won't regret owning it!
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[Q] Way to Delay Upgrade?

Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?

I don't know the answer to your question but I just switched to Verizon from sprint and got the S3. Waiting on it in the mail now. I don't think u can do what u want but im not sure. Hopefully someone can answer it for sure
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You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.

Brian Gove said:
You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.
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Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...

fenixnr said:
Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...
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This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?

Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.

jaben2 said:
Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...

PsiPhiDan said:
I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...
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Go to the galaxy nexus forum and look at the threads that say prepaid service guides or something similar. One of them says "rule your plan with..." they all talk about the best prepaid plans for the money.
Here is one of the more popular ones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
Obviously you don't have to do it with a nexus, you can use one of the prepaid ****ty phones. They just talk about the plans there. When I read it a long time ago most of them involved getting the prepaid phone and then switching out the sim card so you could just chill with the original phone until something interesting comes out on Verizon.

jaben2 said:
Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?

Brian Gove said:
Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?
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Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.

PsiPhiDan said:
Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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The bootloader can be unlocked easily, obtaining root is a simple one-click affair, and VZW has never been friendly about anything but your open wallet. Congrats on the new phone and carrier switch.

Brian Gove said:
It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.
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Okay that sounds good, thank you!
I was concerned mostly because with my phone, only the non-updated ones can be rooted and unlocked right now. Since I had mine since launch day, my original bootloader was able to be hacked and exploited. New phones bought today have different bootloaders that have patched the explored holes. HTC can be evil that way. I know Samsung is more dev friendly, but I wanted to make sure there were no stipulations like with my phone where I would be screwed if I bought a new one now.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?
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If you are going to wait 3 weeks you might as well wait for the note 2. Just my two cents.
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There's still no release date on the Note 2 is there?
Plus I'm not sure a phone that large is for me. I'm getting the Note 10.1 soon, so do I need a phone that's a tablet too? I'm not sure. Plus I won't pay over 200 for a phone. I'm guessing the Note 2 will go for 300 or more.
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When I switched to Verizon from T-Mobile in December I went month to month on an OG Droid I owned until the GNex came out and then I upgraded

PsiPhiDan said:
This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?
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It wouldn't have to be a smart phone. Buy a cheap flip phone or something. However there is always something Coming soon so you may find yourself with that cheap phone for a long time

is ICS dead?

I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful

harecurtis said:
I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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RBarnett09 said:
I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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the only downfall with the dna in my opinion is that HTC makes it
now im not a htc hater, in fact they are the company that make me jump on the android ship, and ive loved them until I had the thunderbolt, rezound and incredible 4g
with the lack of updates from HTC im affraid to get the DNA, the best comparison is the droid razr and rezound; the razr has 4.1 ready to roll out in early Q1 2013 (there was an "accidental" ota update a few weeks back that gave a few hundred uses android 4.1, and motorola confirmed android 4.1 in early Q1) where the HTC rezound may get 4.1 but it will prolly be around june- and I honestly think thats on the early side.
but If HTC shows better upgrades ide jump over there to the DNA right now

Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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These are my thoughts exactly.
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Oh and on another note. Verizon is partially to blame for the lack of support and ics on this device. They keep stonewalling the update because I think they know we still have unlimited and they want us off of it. If they give us the update then it is unlikely we will upgrade anytime soon. You also can't forget that this phone was the first from Verizon that has the svdo capability which the source to that has been kept under lock and key for quite some time now. I think that Verizon is protecting that info because they may resurrect it later on. This and the rezound are the only two phones that are able to talk and surf even on 3g. The others that are able to do this use volte (voice over lte) which only works with 4g.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.

Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.

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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
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Probably going to be waiting awhile... There is a reason you don't see the nexus4 on Verizon
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.

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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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and it wont change. ever. they have moved away from customer support because they don't need to worry about happy customers if they already have them tied down for two years. and all those issues people have disappear when its time to upgrade and the consumer is happy again. then the cycle begins again
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thanks for the feedback everyone!
I know HTC isnt just to blame, BUT if you look at apple for instance (sorry for bringing them up) they can do what they want with their phones, and the carriers can pretty much shove it if they dont like it.
now my question is this, why can apple do what they want (ex no bloatware, and updates whenever they see fit) and android companies (HTC, LG, Samsung, And even Google with the case of a nexus) cant?

I left my Thunderbolt for a Galaxy Note II and I absolutely love it. It is the perfect size for me, and it still manages to sit comfortably in my pockets. The phone overall is excellent, but the two features that stand out are the stylus and the battery life.
I did not consider getting the DNA because it has an inferior screen (resolution aside,) and the battery life has been reported to be horrendous. I would say either the Note II or the GS3 are both very safe bets if you are looking to get a new phone.

As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).

While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.

Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I have two phones with unlimited data on my plan and if I took the share everything plan I would end paying $40 more a month and get less data than I actually need. Plus I still wouldn't get one of those phone subsidies you're talking about since I'm not eligible for upgrade for a while so I would definitely pay full retail for a phone before I lost unlimited. Also there are plenty of phones I could buy used that are excellent for half the price of retail or better.
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wiredmonkey said:
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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I'm leaning towards the S4 myself. I'm done with HTC. Got a Tab 2 and I absolutely love Samsung
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SlyG07 said:
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
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All vzw customers will eventually lose unlimited data. They won't let you keep it forever. Mark my words
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Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Just like other guy stated I would be paying more if I went on share everything plan I don't use a crazy amount of data but 13-20 GB a month is where I sit. I am hoping Google releases a phone every year like the upcoming xphone so I can buy it off the play store, if they are in stock that is. But I will hold onto my unlimited data as long as I can cause their share everything plan is a joke, $40 for a smart phone access fee equals $29.99+$9.99 which is what we were already paying to buy the unlimited or 2gb or 4gb all they did was slap a two cent raise and hoped no one would notice. I noticed jerks!!!!
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.

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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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That is true but how can we expect a company to push out an ota for a one year old device that probably 95% of the purchasers moved to a different device. We should all be happy that they got their crap together enough to give us this last one.
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